if while developing, immediately. yes frank, beautifully written jewclause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
if while developing, immediately. yes frank, beautifully written jewclause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
or kill their own parents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
http://wickedchopspoker.com/confirme...ll-tilt-poker/
my buddy is a part owner of pokerfuse (mamba pit member on Venompoker) and works @ pokerstars and they broke the original story so I believe this is solid info
GBT was going to use FT to help launch the ISPT. Now hopefully they will buy UB to do it and give UB$ holders a ray of hope.
The more I read, it's kind of shocking that they didn't arrive at this juncture much sooner. Given Dikshit paid out $300 million to be rid of smaller issues, and the DOJ fines are calculated arbitrarily without precedent with so few of this type case, that I imagine the DOJ could have simply shipped a $600 million fine offer to Isai's lawyers to make it all go away, and he likely would have took it straight up, getting nothing in return.
Instead, they simply call it the player balances + over $400 million in fines, and the players get paid back, and the DOJ can call it a win, and avoid a bunch of nonsense regarding how to charge and extradite a guy whom I'm sure is very powerful in Israel, which is a political clusterfuck of an issue between two friendly allies. This way, he can travel anywhere he wants, his company by proxy will likely make their money back by licensing shit to the US, and everyone is happy. On the surface, I don't even know who the winner is, both I think. In a way, they made him pay premium for a less than premium company, but on the other hand, it's kind of a sweetheart deal as it will take any pressure off him, and he'll make it back one way or the other eventually, and though he may have never wanted to leave Israel anyways, his heirs won't have to sweat asset grabs, etc. for the rest of their lives.
In retrospect, it makes total sense.
Did you just out your friend as the leak?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Would be super lol if he got fired over this.
I was thinking this very thing, but didn't want to draw attention to it; although I would think PokerStars would know an employee founded PokerFuseQuote:
Originally Posted by abrown83Did you just out your friend as the leak?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Would be super lol if he got fired over this.
No, it is public info what I postedQuote:
Originally Posted by abrown83Did you just out your friend as the leak?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Would be super lol if he got fired over this.
His name is on pokerfuse which is a great site
And he has helped tremendously working with Pokerstars to lower rake in the limit games and I believe (not 100 %) he has a title on 2+2 with a pokerstars logo
I am not saying he directly leaked the info and I haven't even read the story on pokerfuse. But reports are pokerfuse broke the story
Edit: just read the story on pokerfuse and he did write it. Still doesn't mean he leaked the info as he has credited other sources for the details of his report
http://pokerfuse.com/news/law-and-re...ions-with-doj/
:knifeQuote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacNo, it is public info what I postedQuote:
Originally Posted by abrown83
His name is on pokerfuse which is a great site
And he has helped tremendously working with Pokerstars to lower rake in the limit games and I believe (not 100 %) he has a title on 2+2 with a pokerstars logo
I am not saying he directly leaked the info and I haven't even read the story on pokerfuse. But reports are pokerfuse broke the story
It looks like the HUGE thread on the 2+2 NVG forum about PS buying FT was deleted without any explanation. (?)
(Then, a thread that was started asking why the other thread was deleted, was locked by SGT RJ (a mod) with a warning and then THAT THREAD looks to have been deleted now!)
Pokerstars sponsors the 2+2 pokercast, right?
Just sayin'.
Looks like the thread has been restored... Apparently it was quarantined after "DF" (?) made a detailed post that "violated the terms" of some NDA (non-disclosure agreement) and the mods had a powwow in the moderator forum about what to do about the post. I don't know if that post in question has now been lost forever or what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandwich
Looks like censorship at its finest tho.
("DF" = "Diamond Flush", apparently)
I thought this was going to be a level, but it isn't. Video found of Howard Lederer talking about ethics and honesty. Give the site that found this a click:
http://pokerupdate.com/features/iron...-ethics-video/
"You create a group of friends that all are willing to help each other. You find you gravitate towards other honest people. That allows you to play bigger. Maybe a little beyond your bankroll."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS7Cv...yer_embedded#!
2+2 Thread
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...thics-1198409/
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Originally Posted by Sandwich
Sabbotaged my ass.. Only people responsible for GBT failing to buy FTP is GBT,.. Truth is this fucking idiots had no idea what they were getting themselves into. Also they assumed somehow they wouldnt be responsible for the funds owed US players and basically told the DOJ the same thing that they felt the DOJ had the responsibility since they seized FTPs assets that they alone (DOJ should be DOH) should eat the costs to repay US Players, cant say I blame them for feeling this way but it was a pipe dream. When suddenly they were buying an asset of unknown worth with a liability of well over a qtr billion to US players they decided to back out and claim sabbatage by some 3rd party which is BS and GBT lying abotu shit giving Bernards own criminal behavior for game fixing etc nobody should be surprised by this.. Just glad the most viable option out there is going to try an dmake it right.. It does however create the high likelyhood of a near monopoly in the online poker world but lets be honest Pre BF FTP and PS numbers represented a huge pct of the online poker business anyway.. The reality is PS and FTP though will have to be content with the Euro/Asian market as no sign of them being allowed back into the US to joint he party again anytime soon after online poker is legalized (again thank god for Dual citizenship I will eventually get back on PS legally through a 2nd home and well some well placed electronic maneuvering such as logmein or flat out using a VPS) with legit Canadian passport, Address and what not and playing through Canadian locations be it my home or VPS theres nothing PS can do to bitch about me playing once I get it all taken care off
The adjective that best described the GBT Groups acquisition of Full Tilt is....Stagnant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buU6apqGxK4Quote:
Originally Posted by bukowski72
Hey guys, just to be clear I have never worked for PokerStars. I did to the offices back in January as part of a team of players who went to discuss rake changes. However i've never been paid or employed by them.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
or pimp their wife to get money for career playing slotsQuote:
Originally Posted by mtnDewor kill their own parents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Cat Out Of The Bagor pimp their wife to get money for career playing slotsQuote:
Originally Posted by mtnDew
Jesus, China, that's a pretty big detail to get wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by nick-pokerfuseHey guys, just to be clear I have never worked for PokerStars. I did to the offices back in January as part of a team of players who went to discuss rake changes. However i've never been paid or employed by them.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Just for clarification, and in an interest of fairness to China, the guy is never wrong. China is a well respected member of this community and you will be unabashedly shunned, ridiculed, and mocked if you have the audacity to question him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverse Apache MasterJesus, China, that's a pretty big detail to get wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by nick-pokerfuse
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Originally Posted by Cat Out Of The Bagor pimp their wife to get money for career playing slotsQuote:
Originally Posted by mtnDew
i think you' find penty of us criticize china. i've gone after him for promoting his own se1f interest by continuing to be a ub affi1iate and for his high optimism surrounding the tapie dea1 with ftp.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22Just for clarification, and in an interest of fairness to China, the guy is never wrong. China is a well respected member of this community and you will be unabashedly shunned, ridiculed, and mocked if you have the audacity to question him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverse Apache Master
the difference is the rest of us don't constanty remind him on everything sing1e thread (which is what tro11ing is)
and yes that is a HUGE fact to mess up....
1ooks 1ike the stupid 'e1' key is broken on this airport computer....
1o1Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
In my second post I said I was not 100 % whether he had a custom stars title and I admit coining the term "works for stars" should have been "worked with stars" as I didn't know the detailed extent of what he was doing I just know he was doing good work there at one point helped to lower the rake and many players were thanking him for his contributions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverse Apache MasterJesus, China, that's a pretty big detail to get wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by nick-pokerfuse
I also saw someone on 2+2 post as Pokerstars Nick so that led me to believe that was him. Whether he was paid for his work or contributaions how am I supposed to know that? I don't go around asking people if they are paid employees or not.
Whether he did or didn't work for Stars or get paid (which he confirmed here he was never a paid employee) shouldn't matter . He did say he hit the offices to help discuss how to lower rake so that's close enough for me as the rake got lowered so is that not working with them whether he was paid or not?.
Ok so he wasn't paid and I admit the term "working for Stars" was inaccurate but if I were to make a very educated guess I would assume that a guy who has been to the Stars offices and discussed or worked with them and got shit done breaks a story that gets a direct statement sent to pokerfuse has more connections than your average media site.
Here is a paragraph from his story
“Settlement discussions are always confidential, we are unable to comment on any rumors related to the details of those discussions.” wrote Eric Hollreiser, Head of Corporate Communications for PokerStars, in a statement sent to pokerfuse and made available on their corporate blog. “As soon as we have information to share publicly we will do so.”
And FWIW I never came out and said he leaked the story through Stars.
and mr searles I have admitted I was wrong many times. But I am undefeated vs you as you put up some of the worst arguments and accusations ever .
stop crying.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22Just for clarification, and in an interest of fairness to China, the guy is never wrong. China is a well respected member of this community and you will be unabashedly shunned, ridiculed, and mocked if you have the audacity to question him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverse Apache Master
faggot, aut.
:toQuote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
China is a respected member and seems like a good guy. He also has a faggot man crush on Tim Tebow, I've pointed it out to him and others before. No one ever mocked or shunned me.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22Just for clarification, and in an interest of fairness to China, the guy is never wrong. China is a well respected member of this community and you will be unabashedly shunned, ridiculed, and mocked if you have the audacity to question him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverse Apache Master
Wow, China.Quote:
Originally Posted by nick-pokerfuseHey guys, just to be clear I have never worked for PokerStars. I did to the offices back in January as part of a team of players who went to discuss rake changes. However i've never been paid or employed by them.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Just Wow.
WTF? Venom is back up?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...o/85681bc9.jpg
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Originally Posted by limitlesWTF? Venom is back up?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
There is one thread with more then 2 posts in the last week; Chinas stake failure thread.
Been up for a few months. Will be relaunching something new in a few weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by limitlesWTF? Venom is back up?Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/...o/85681bc9.jpg
from 2+2
Originally Posted by GoMuckYourselfBro
I don't know what Full Tilt Poker's DNS Nameservers were previous to today, it was always my impression that the DNS Nameservers are provided by the hosting company.
But as of right now: FullTiltPoker.com .biz .co.uk .info .us and .net are all served by UltraDNS.net - the same company as PokerStars.
If the announcement about Pokerstars buying Full Tilt comes in the next week, all of the trolls on 2+2 will be the ones "mucking" themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffIf the announcement about Pokerstars buying Full Tilt comes in the next week, all of the trolls on 2+2 will be the ones "mucking" themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Guess we dont have to worry about that happening.
Wow China is taking a beating in that thread.
We still have 5 1/2 hours until Armageddon.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThreeBetQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Guess we dont have to worry about that happening.
Wow China is taking a beating in that thread.
Oh. With the bloodbath he was taking on 4 I assumed the deadline his "sources" provided had passed. It's impossible to wade through that cesspool of a thread and figure out whats going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffWe still have 5 1/2 hours until Armageddon.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThreeBet
Since I am not allowed to post in that thread anymore I will post here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThreeBetQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Guess we dont have to worry about that happening.
Wow China is taking a beating in that thread.
I would agree from an outsiders point of view it may look like a beating but to me and knowing what I have written and responded to I would say attacked viciously rather than taken a beating because they don't believe I have a source and think I am just writing fiction when all I have posted is facts. And if you look at that thread and my posts about Scott Matusow in the fall it would make sense.
:lol
One of my haters Markssman is writing novels of BS and claims he was part of 100 million dollar business deals or some shit and he also says info doesn't get leaked on shit like this which is pure comedy because shit gets leaked in most business deals and this is no different.
Then 95 % of the rest that have sparred with me or taken shots are just clueless trolls and I fended off every last one of them. The other 5 % are intelligent but most of that 5 % are clueless maybe accept DF, Hood and Zbhorton and a few others.
When it comes down to facts I have posted all facts and just respond to the trolls which was a big waste of time. Druff has confirmed my source as very reliable and I get updates whenever talk with my source and they are real updates but things can change on a dime. The best part is the trolls wanting me to confirm a source with NohSD or DF which is LOL considering when Noah held sensitive account information he made Patriks account balance public. I went with Druff because I trust him and I got attacked for that because Druff is banned there. But he is banned there for differences with the owners , not anything that would have his ethics questioned on a topic like this.
Some of them are thinking my source is Nick "Hood" Jones from Pokerfuse now which is 100 % false. I am friendly with Nick and he was a part of a forum @ Venom Poker while we were open but we haven't spoke about anything Pokerstars related. The only communication I have had recently with Nick was letting him know my post earlier in this thread was not intended to harm him in any way and he knew that. I had my facts messed up and I owned up to it but they were very close and one could see my reasoning.
The one thing I did take a beating on was that I was told there was going to 99.9 % be an announcement this week. And that was supposed to happen until they had problems with who was going to deal with the player payouts and couldn't come to an agreement to make the announcement official. I am still told the deal should go through
Some claim this Spain thing may make Stars change their mind and back out but I am told that shouldn't change anything but nothing is ever guaranteed until it happens
yes, I was told by earlier this week it would be announced 99.9 % and that came and went. I am still told Stars could just post an announcement if they wanted to and then hammer out the remaining details but they are waiting till the details are done and that's what they should do in case it didn't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThreeBetOh. With the bloodbath he was taking on 4 I assumed the deadline his "sources" provided had passed. It's impossible to wade through that cesspool of a thread and figure out whats going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
But again , 100 + poker sites reported by today. They would be getting pounded if they posted in the thread too. After dealing with Jewdonk when we were battling taking on 500 trolls is a walk in the park.
Whenever you say something has a 99.9% chance of happening you are just setting yourself up to fail. Just stick to a very likely chance because it just gets everyone extra annoyed when someone says that and it doesn't happen.