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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P4qt3KxkzI
She busts her final 800 at 2:31:18, final totals shown at 2:37:55 (she lost like 7700). Note she did not reload, and right after came the whole fake suicide debacle. I believe this bad night was the catalyst of all the crazy we are presently seeing.
She appeared back in July and lost $7520 (see 5:33:37 mark):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpoZYxdSLkg
You can't make this shit up!
https://twitter.com/TerpHimself/stat...19169253560321
Think I’ll need to start listening to radio again. Who would have thought a thread about someone complaining about smelly poker players would turn into this.
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Jami is the first person to ever block me on Twitter. The simp army was bombarding our boy so I felt compelled to tweet in support of Todd's character. Well apparently that's all it takes to warrant a block. Hate Todd or goodbye.
This woman is absolutely bat-shit. Her Twitter profile is a giant red flag: "I have one of the funnest laughs in the world. It's the kind of laugh that you would hear in movies. When I laugh EVERYONE laughs!" Who writes this about themselves? OMG it's just like in the movies and everybody loves me!!! Then you see her on HCL and it's literally the opposite.
She is a compulsive liar, a delusional narcissist, and she has a history of scamming. Yet she is being enabled by some of the most oblivious people on Twitter.
This is not going to end well...
Not going to name names, but speaking of restraining orders, "someone" had one filed against them by their own parents.
That's a totally normal situation, right? It happens to the best of us!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I bet "someone" has a victim mentality and still twisted the blame onto their parents.
It's amazing how she can spend hours on Twitter and also go down to a courthouse and file multiple restraining orders after a major surgery. This fraud needs to just go away!
Literally I think she is on twitter 24/7. She is blocking someone in seconds if they stick up for Todd or question her in any fashion. She really needs long term psychiatric care not even joking. Some bipolar medication definitely. I'm glad Todd isn't backing down.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkeykilla
its very telling that she has no one in her life who is able to get through to her and stop her from digging this hole any deeper.
but also not surprising given the way she is handling this and her history of toxic behavior and manipulation
Narcissistic Injuries: What They Are and How to Protect Yourself from Them
^ very relevant to what we are witnessing.
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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
Cancer treatments are very expensive easily be over 100k depending on what you have.
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Originally Posted by donkeykilla
She just posted about how she is going down to the court house today and putting all her effort into quieting all the haters.
An hour earlier she posed a picture of her in the hospital still all torn up saying sarcastically (paraphrasing) do i look like Im in condition to run a scam.
She cant hold the story together any more.
its become quite clear that this is a woman who has never been held accountable for her actions, has a history of bad actions, and has been become progressively more confident that she can get away with anything and fool anyone if she just keeps lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by DalyQuote:
Originally Posted by donkeykilla
She just posted about how she is going down to the court house today and putting all her effort into quieting all the haters.
An hour earlier she posed a picture of her in the hospital still all torn up saying sarcastically (paraphrasing) do i look like Im in condition to run a scam.
She cant hold the story together any more.
I will admit that while the Canadian health care system is pretty shitty right now, I can't imagine the stress of needing serious healthcare and not having insurance to cover itQuote:
Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO
A lesbian on twitter is accusing Druff of being responsible for Brandi Hawbaker's suicide.
I’ve encountered like half a dozen people in the real world who have done some variation of this over the years. All women. C-money aside, that’s not the real world.
Idk what her story is other than her and her”boyfriend” are clearly full of shit and I’ve never seen anyone less convincing.
What I’ve seen often is some doctor tells a girl she has some rogue cells, often of the reproductive system sort. Sometimes it’s skin-related .
It’s usually the type of shit that may potentially become cancerous in 15 years if not dealt with and they run around telling everyone they’re dying or have cancer. I’ve only known 1 who went the gofundme route.
I know like 3 girls who claim they’ve had cancer for like 20 years and they’ve never been sick for even a short period of time. Like people paying for their kids to go to some sports tournament for thousands year after year for a decade and sending them also for a week-long vacation and I’m like, what exactly does she have where she’s never been sick to my knowledge? Yet everyone treats them like they’re in some constant battle. No one ever calls them on it because it’s such a bad look if you’re wrong, but you’re not going to be wrong here.
Doctors really use pre-COPD, pre-diabetes, and pre-cancerous Pap smears or random mole language too much. I know why they do it, as they want people to quit smoking, lose weight, or go get some scrape done and say it to scare them and take it seriously, but they don’t have it yet and with a small number of people, they’ll run around telling people they have cancer or COPD for the next 30 years. I’ve known 25 year old smokers talk about having COPD and I just shake my head, but their doctor rattled their cage.
I’ve had girls who have told me we are both cancer survivors in conversation. I’ll think to myself I never use that language or refer to myself as that in public, it rarely comes up unless someone asks me why I don’t have kids once I know them and I get into getting sick three months after getting married until basically 40. Its pure luck to emerge and makes people who pass on sound like quitters when living or not is almost always purely luck. What’s the opposite of survivor? They quit? That’s rarely the case.
I’ll ask them what they had and these girls had a scary pap smear in 2002 and nothing ever came of it while I’m sitting there thinking I had like 12 surgeries, 3 quite major ones, in just the first 18 months and a few others later and it stole almost every day for 8-10 years of my life.
And even in the midst of it I always felt like an ass if I started feeling sorry for myself because I was young, but then I’d see some 8 year old with no hair who was going to be gone in a month and tell myself quit being a pussy. I just couldn’t imagine saying that shit. It would make me feel like some dude who was a national guard reservist during peace time down at the VFW comparing my experience with dudes who did 3 tours in Nam and lost a leg.
I have no idea her true story, but it wouldn’t surprise me if she had some type of small or brief cancer and fell in love with the attention/sympathy/money and now you called her on it and she’s spinning poorly. That’s what I’ve seen. Girls who had a bad doctor visit or scary test and it snowballs into a long narrative after the problem is resolved and just don’t say I’m fine now or it wasn’t as serious as it could have been. I can’t imagine anyone who likes attention like she clearly does with her social media presence not instantly shutting you and everyone else up who doesn’t believe her if she was seriously ill. You get about a 200 page novel for every damn hospital discharge and I could have wall-papered Mar Lago with mine back then. She might not give a fuck what you think, but it’s obvious she cares very much what her Twitter followers and the poker world think and even her defenders know she’s full of shit whatever they say online.
You hit the nail right on the head. This tends to be more common with women because from a social acceptability perspective being weak or a victim is acceptable for women. This leads to a much greater proportion emphasizing things like 1/10th minority status, health issues as you described, sex trafficked (see Eliza blue), depression or mental health labeling, and really any condition that can have the victim be seen as a victim but in a positive light. If secondary gain outweighs the stigma, it becomes advantageous to identify as such whether true or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
Males on the other hand were typically raised not to admit weakness or that they've been victimized. Those who did were ostracized from their peers. As a result males are much less likely to openly talk about such things because the benefit may not outweigh the perceived loss in social status. It's also well documented that when males do ask for help they receive far less support and concern from peers. So its not that its a distorted view on their part. We really do live in a society that says its okay for women but not for men to struggle (and in turn provides more support to women when they reach out).
The above post is no intended to suggest that women have it better than men. But to explain why women are more likely to engage in falsifying disabilities (despite men being more antisocial).
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Originally Posted by BetCheckBetI will admit that while the Canadian health care system is pretty shitty right now, I can't imagine the stress of needing serious healthcare and not having insurance to cover itQuote:
Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO
whatever you do don't protest and make Trudeau look retarded af or you'll lose your bank accounts
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Originally Posted by Sloppy JoeObviously this approach is idiotic and things could get very ugly for you at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Your little train of attaboys is going to dry up and further hammering of this risks reputational ruin.
Good for lulz but no better outcome than for you to bow out now.
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Benign tumor removed from neck would keep you out of work for about 2 weeks. $50k…what a load.
Here I am fighting for my life!, not quite. Surgery is no fun but c’mon.
Total scam.
Todd getting attacked left and right now on twitter. Jami's generous donor Nadya who gave her $10,000 now claims Jami showed her everything and all this paperwork and her story is 100% true and blah blah blah.
I honestly think Nadya is trying to save face here because I don't believe her.
This whole thing is such a shit show from top to bottom.
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Originally Posted by ReformDorm
lol I love a good Todd pileon as much as the next jewdonk but holy shit the longer this goes on it's like the more they prove his point
I am still not sure of everything but this is just getting weirder by the minute
however one thing is, Nadya previously stated that she is just helping to help.....if she was doing that why would Jami have shown her all of the paperwork before?
I do think Nadya is a real one though regardless of what is happening that is huge that she stepped up and helped someone out for $10k
Todd Witteles? More like Todd Winsagain.
AMIRITE
They are all oblivious to the fact that Druff never ever changes his mind and is utterly relentless.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
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Originally Posted by nunbeaterQuote:
Originally Posted by ReformDorm
lol I love a good Todd pileon as much as the next jewdonk but holy shit the longer this goes on it's like the more they prove his point
I am still not sure of everything but this is just getting weirder by the minute
however one thing is, Nadya previously stated that she is just helping to help.....if she was doing that why would Jami have shown her all of the paperwork before?
I do think Nadya is a real one though regardless of what is happening that is huge that she stepped up and helped someone out for $10k
Yeah I mean at this point if I were Todd I would just drop it. I think he proved she is a liar and using some truths about her medical problems into a bigger gofundme grift. Unfortunately she is obviously unstable and has some mental problems imo so you never know what might push her over the edge to harm herself. And Todd doesn't want that on his hands. That's why it's probably best to move on and leave her and her grift alone.
looks like she has responded
He is undefeated in e-fights in the past 20 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarThey are all oblivious to the fact that Druff never ever changes his mind and is utterly relentless.Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
I really never expected the whole thing to blow up this huge. Initially I only set out to show people that she was telling blatant lies on and about her gofundme, as a warning to the community to those who were touched by the sob story and wanted to donate.
Unfortunately, this blew up when Jami was e-mailing me asking for me to remove this thread, and I tried to have a reasonable conversation with her. She wouldn't answer the simplest of simple questions about the lies she told, so I gave up on communicating with her that way. She then portrayed me on her social media as a big, bad, terrible guy who picks on cancer patients for fun and clicks.
Now we have a sharply divided poker community -- some who see the grift for what it is, and some who think I'm Satan for having brought any attention to this. This despite the fact that I showed my work and proved some of the lies with 100% certainty -- such as the live tweeting dramatic pics/updates from the "hospital", when in reality she was sitting at home, having already been discharged.
We have other morons who acknowledge that she was dishonest about a lot of things, but I should have shut my mouth and let people donate because... mental health or cancer or something.
I am not a callous asshole, and there is something to be said about not riling up prone to mental episodes. That's why I didn't comment on Twitter about the fake suicide, or any of her other recent shenanigans.
In this case, I chose to comment because $50k was involved, and the gofundme was rapidly rising -- up to $14k in the first day. I wanted people to have all the facts.
Does she actually have cancer? Who knows? It's very possible that she has some sort of issue where she needs ongoing surgeries to prevent cancer from appearing, but doesn't actually have it. It's possible that maybe she does have it, or had it in the past. I do know that she's been posting on social media that she's had cancer since 2012 (see the Yelp review from earlier in the thread), and has run 4 Gofundmes to raise money for herself, always with a tragic story behind it.
I just wanted everyone to be fully informed before donating, but this became a huge clusterfuck. The majority seems to be on my side, and I believe there are many staying silent who quietly agree with me, as well, but they don't want to invite the crazy into their lives. I don't blame them.
The problem is the level of vitriol and anger this has inspired by those who were opposed to my actions. Some see it as a form of sexism (lol -- as if I haven't called out countless males scamming over time), some see it as heartless picking on a cancer patient, and some are just stupid in that they believe it's a debate whether or not she really has cancer, and not about the fact that she's asking for $50k and lying while doing it.
A number of new people hate me today who didn't know I existed 2 days ago. On the flip side, I am getting tons of messages in support of what I wrote -- some public, some private -- again from many people I've never heard of before, and some hadn't heard of me until now. But I'd really prefer I wasn't standing right on the lightning rod right now.
I do believe that the message has been widely received on the gofundme, so I've done what needed to be done. There is no point to keep hammering that message home. I did feel the need to defend myself against all of the false and nasty allegations as to what I was doing and why I did it.
Where this ends, I'm not sure. I'd prefer it all dies down and everyone moves onto the next thing, but who knows what will actually happen.
Her lies are almost as blatant as Chrissy Mitchell.
Oh hiQuote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBet
zero.zero chance she files anything against you. book it.
i wish that the people who she has stolen from in the past would come forward to discuss what a complete piece of shit this woman is.
Another angle that I think should be questioned is how she makes her living and what exactly is her work?... So obviously the GoFundMe proceeds aren't exactly going to medical bills, she has even blocked people that offered to pay the hospital directly. Some donating are now justifying their donation claiming "hey she is out of work and still has bills to pay" So what kind of actual income and bills need to be taken care of?
She claims to have played poker since 2002. So I am assuming she should have done quite well during the Moneymaker boom era? If she is claiming her career is playing poker professionally and needs that income replaced during her recovery downtime, I want to see some sort of proof that she actually is deriving some sort of income from actual poker.
If this were a dude I would wager 95% of the poker community would be on Todd's side. Because she's a female though and let's be real, there's always built in empathy for women as the weaker sex and they need protected and looked after and all that shit. Plus although I don't find her attractive she isn't ugly so that imo definitely plays a part in people wanting to believe her and help her too. Especially guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowRoll
But again as I wrote here yesterday, the girl is mentally unstable. And I think Todd needs to just move on from her now and just let it go. This girl could easily reach a breaking point and harm herself and nobody wants that. Then Todd would be blamed by some and it's just not worth it at this point. He made the community aware she is a liar and about a lot of shady info. He did the dirty work.
And lastly I truly believe she probably has a recurring medical issue maybe even cancer that is not life threatening but potentially could end up that way. However she does not have this life threatening part, she has sporadic flare ups which requires her to get tests and even surgery. So she keeps milking this over and over when she is broke and gives everybody the worst case scenario even though she is nowhere close to that.
Sounds like at the end of the emergency radio show Zod had said, and Todd seemed to have agreed, the point has been made and its time to move on to the next big scam. Beyond this point baring any new information its just beating a dead horse.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReformDormIf this were a dude I would wager 95% of the poker community would be on Todd's side. Because she's a female though and let's be real, there's always built in empathy for women as the weaker sex and they need protected and looked after and all that shit. Plus although I don't find her attractive she isn't ugly so that imo definitely plays a part in people wanting to believe her and help her too. Especially guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowRoll
But again as I wrote here yesterday, the girl is mentally unstable. And I think Todd needs to just move on from her now and just let it go. This girl could easily reach a breaking point and harm herself and nobody wants that. Then Todd would be blamed by some and it's just not worth it at this point. He made the community aware she is a liar and about a lot of shady info. He did the dirty work.
And lastly I truly believe she probably has a recurring medical issue maybe even cancer that is not life threatening but potentially could end up that way. However she does not have this life threatening part, she has sporadic flare ups which requires her to get tests and even surgery. So she keeps milking this over and over when she is broke and gives everybody the worst case scenario even though she is nowhere close to that.
Everything about her is calculated, Her whole twitter account is a ploy to get simp attention. She doesn't put pictures up with her and her boyfriend, she knows that none of these divorced, middle aged, 1/2 poker simps in their leather man sandles and Tommy Bahama shirts would give a damn if she presented herself as a normal middle aged woman in a relationship that also enjoys live poker. She has created this sexpot persona for a reason, how many thirst trap posts do I have to read where she utters bullshit about how horny she is? "Oh Hai guys... I am soo horny, I could screw an M1 Abrams tank without any forplay!" Everything is calculated, the high drama, I give up and am ready to die schtick for weeks leading up to these graphic post surgery pics and ohhh yes the GoFundme. This whole thing is smellier than the smelly poker player she once complained about.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowRolllosing poker player who is funded by whatever poker player she is currently dating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockasilly
steals their money from a safe and leaves town when they are tired of her shit.
Article forthcoming that will briefly touch upon this, but is more focused on online crowdfunding site scams, in general.
We also get into the question of whether or not it is a net social positive to see people claiming to have cancer, or whatever, as absolutely unimpeachable and unquestionable. I argue that we definitely don't want to get to the point where we are orchestrating witch hunts (which this definitely isn't) but nor do we want to accept, unquestioningly, that the need for funds, or the amount of funds being sought after, is totally legitimate.
Naturally, my line of reasoning is if we treat all such claims as absolutely unimpeachable, then you get into the problem of scams becoming significantly easier to perpetrate.
I'd actually had this in mind for an article sometime ago, but never got around to it simply because I lacked a direct, and recent, link to the gambling world.