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Originally Posted by PROUDBOY MAGA 2024
pretty sure he would do a 10th of that minus good behavior.
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Originally Posted by PROUDBOY MAGA 2024
pretty sure he would do a 10th of that minus good behavior.
No that only happens if you're a white female.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by PROUDBOY MAGA 2024
pretty sure he would do a 10th of that minus good behavior.
Like the chick in a similar case to this one, who regretted getting married, pushed her husband off a cliff at Glacier National Park in 2013, and then falsified evidence that he had voluntarily run off.
She's out and enjoying free life today, despite all of the above being proven.
If they convict him of murder, he's going away for life. Only way he gets a shorter sentence is if this can be reduced to manslaughter. If they do catch him and find a body, 100% the story is going to be that she flipped out and attacked him again, and while pushing her off, she fell and got killed. That Utah dashcam video might be a saving grace for him, because she's shown acting unstable and hitting him.
However, if they find evidence that she didn't die from a fall (for example, strangled, stabbled, or shot), dude is going away for life if they pin it on him.
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Originally Posted by Dan DruffNo that only happens if you're a white female.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Like the chick in a similar case to this one, who regretted getting married, pushed her husband off a cliff at Glacier National Park in 2013, and then falsified evidence that he had voluntarily run off.
She's out and enjoying free life today, despite all of the above being proven.
If they convict him of murder, he's going away for life. Only way he gets a shorter sentence is if this can be reduced to manslaughter. If they do catch him and find a body, 100% the story is going to be that she flipped out and attacked him again, and while pushing her off, she fell and got killed. That Utah dashcam video might be a saving grace for him, because she's shown acting unstable and hitting him.
However, if they find evidence that she didn't die from a fall (for example, strangled, stabbled, or shot), dude is going away for life if they pin it on him.
my guess ,she screamed so loud,he gorilla choked her out....
yeah assuming hes not in costa rica by now, factor in the dashcam video and theres a lot for a good lawyer to work with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffNo that only happens if you're a white female.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Like the chick in a similar case to this one, who regretted getting married, pushed her husband off a cliff at Glacier National Park in 2013, and then falsified evidence that he had voluntarily run off.
She's out and enjoying free life today, despite all of the above being proven.
If they convict him of murder, he's going away for life. Only way he gets a shorter sentence is if this can be reduced to manslaughter. If they do catch him and find a body, 100% the story is going to be that she flipped out and attacked him again, and while pushing her off, she fell and got killed. That Utah dashcam video might be a saving grace for him, because she's shown acting unstable and hitting him.
However, if they find evidence that she didn't die from a fall (for example, strangled, stabbled, or shot), dude is going away for life if they pin it on him.
i imagine that on the high end, he's eligible for parole in less than 20 years.
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
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Originally Posted by IamGreek
He is not on House arrest.
He is allowed to travel freely, un-encumbered.....
He has no LEGAL obligation to speak to anyone again.
Monkhood beckons, May I recommend>>> The CARTHUSIAN monkhood..
"A vow of silence is a vow to maintain silence. Although it is commonly associated with monasticism, no major monastic order takes a vow of silence. Even the most fervently silent orders such as the Carthusians have time in their schedule for talking.".... still best shot for him.
This best shot to avoid a di*k in the hiney ho! IMO, I am Not a Lawyer.
If it is not bad taste for you,or bothersome to yr ethic/moral Thermometer, I shall take 180/100 that he is Suicided, w/druff doing escrow .
Ok, with the winner donating 10% to freeroll...lmk
SSB, I’m very tempted to bet you :) I personally do not think he committed suicide. He spent all summer in environments that are very isolated. For him to tell his family that he is going to go to this preserve is not that shocking to me. It’s an environment he feels comfortable in, but most of all I think he left to get away from all the pressure the media and the public is putting on him to talk. There is no way Brian could roam freely in public, especially there in Florida. So he is pretty much done until they find her.Quote:
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Originally Posted by IamGreek
If it is not bad taste for you,or bothersome to yr ethic/moral Thermometer, I shall take 180/100 that he is Suicided, w/druff doing escrow .
Ok, with the winner donating 10% to freeroll...lmk
There was a search for him today at a preserve in Florida. Even if they find him, since the search for him is regarding the “Missing persons” case his family initiated for HIM, he is under no obligation to go with the officers.
Officer: Brian, your family has filed a missing persons case for you. They are worried about you.
Brian: That’s nice. Tell them I’m ok. I’m happy right here where I am.
They won’t ask him any questions about Gabby without his lawyer present. His sister is out talking to the media. I bet his parents don’t tell his sister anything else regarding Gabbys disappearance.
I bet the FBI already has it narrowed down to a 12 hour window when he did what ever he did to her. Young people are constantly on their phones, especially since they did the whole Instagram/YouTube thing. After they analyze her phone records it will be apparent when things came to an end. Also cross reference that info with his phone data.
Her family is in a F’ed up situation. I feel for them. The uncertainty of not knowing is absolutely brutal. How her father and step father have kept their composure knowing Brian has the answers is beyond me.
I do believe Brian will be arrested within 7 days for a crime related to her disappearance.
Edit: The entire hitchhiking incident is very strange as well, especially when the driver of the vehicle mentions “Jackson”, he has them pull over and gets out of the vehicle.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...465.html%3famp
Search at the preserve this morning:
I'm assuming you mean Jordan Graham. She actually received a rather harsh 30 year sentence after pleading guilty, and lost her appeal:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffNo that only happens if you're a white female.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Like the chick in a similar case to this one, who regretted getting married, pushed her husband off a cliff at Glacier National Park in 2013, and then falsified evidence that he had voluntarily run off.
She's out and enjoying free life today, despite all of the above being proven.
Graham was convicted of second-degree murder in December 2013, five months after she shoved her husband of seven days off a cliff in Glacier National Park. In March 2014, she was sentenced to 30 years in prison. She is currently incarcerated at a federal prison in Alabama.
She's still in prison in Alabama, not slated for release until 2039.
Oh weird. I was following it at the time, and was sure I remembered her getting something like 8 years. Maybe I'm thinking of a different case with a lenient sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by khalwatI'm assuming you mean Jordan Graham. She actually received a rather harsh 30 year sentence after pleading guilty, and lost her appeal:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Graham was convicted of second-degree murder in December 2013, five months after she shoved her husband of seven days off a cliff in Glacier National Park. In March 2014, she was sentenced to 30 years in prison. She is currently incarcerated at a federal prison in Alabama.
She's still in prison in Alabama, not slated for release until 2039.
Honestly she deserved life in prison for this. He wasn't abusive, she wasn't defending herself, and she just abrutply decided to push him off (with his back turned) after they had some kind of argument at Glacier National Park, presumably about her wanting to back out of the marriage.
His friends had previously warned him that she was "weird" and that something seemed wrong with her. Her friends described her as childlike and seemingly asexual, and not someone who was ready to get married.
Anyway, this was straight up murder, and then she (poorly) falsified evidence to cover it up. Glad she at least got 30 for this.
Yeah apparently she was facing life in prison, but pleading guilty and cooperating got it down to 30 years. Pretty brutal to marry someone, and then push them off of a cliff 7 days later. She _claims_ it was an accident but I mean come on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
It sounds like Gabby was definitely dead before August 29th. Otherwise why is this dude out on his own and acting weird. The window is slowly closing:
Fiance picked up hitchhiking on 8/29
I saw this, but I didn't even post it here because the report is from a "Tiktoker", so who knows if it's reliable?Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
I'm not saying she's lying, but I'm also not saying she's telling the truth. In fact, her whole story is weird and doesn't make a lot of sense.
With that said, as I mentioned before, there was some dude on Reddit who swore that he saw Brian at a gas station alone on the 29th (or the 28th, I forget), yelling at himself and throwing away trash. That could also be a lie, but the bottom line is that it just seems like she dropped off the face of the early something between August 25-29.
Just about 100% she was dead by August 29th. She may have been dead as early as August 25, because that was the last confirmed sighting of her, and her communication with her mom on the 27th was by text, and we know a fake text was sent on the 30th.
Will be interesting to see if Brian left to go hels himself, or if he's somehow slipped out of the country, or if he's just trying to hide out in nature for awhile. His parents told the feds that he went to that nature reserve, which I think is what he told them to say, after his head start. I have a feeling he's nowhere near there, unless he killed himself and his body is there somewhere.
What the fuck is the matter with people? Why did she not hop on an Amtrack back to New York? A fucking blog?
That story with the Tiktoker is sketchy as fuck. Why would Brian offer 200$ for a 10 mile ride, when he desperately needs to conserve his resources. Other things in that article are pretty far fetched. Tik Tok has no shortage of attention seeking fruitcakes. Take it with a grain of salt.
Body found in Wyoming.
They haven't said it's her, but pretty sure it's her. Announcement at 3pm PT coming up.
In a plot twist that no one saw coming, Druff actually found the body
Dude probably had a good reason to off her right? I mean she did use tik tok on Instagram right?
This is the national cliff park one I believe, think I saw it on dateline. Did it for the insurance moneysQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffNo that only happens if you're a white female.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Like the chick in a similar case to this one, who regretted getting married, pushed her husband off a cliff at Glacier National Park in 2013, and then falsified evidence that he had voluntarily run off.
She's out and enjoying free life today, despite all of the above being proven.
If they convict him of murder, he's going away for life. Only way he gets a shorter sentence is if this can be reduced to manslaughter. If they do catch him and find a body, 100% the story is going to be that she flipped out and attacked him again, and while pushing her off, she fell and got killed. That Utah dashcam video might be a saving grace for him, because she's shown acting unstable and hitting him.
However, if they find evidence that she didn't die from a fall (for example, strangled, stabbled, or shot), dude is going away for life if they pin it on him.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-cliff-n476726
His other wife convienienly died changing a tire. I also think the girl was pushed off a cliff.
Dead, like thousands of other Americans every day. From Covid, cancer, old age, OD, whatever.
Only this one that the media promoted has average Americans upset over.
Perhaps the bigger takeaway is why people cared about this one.
I’ll bet I’m worth more than you, simple net worth. Since I’m retired you probably do make more than me currently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakI make more money than you do, and that was the most retarded post I’ve seen on this board in almost 24 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
If you want to make a wager I’m sure Dan will get involved. He certainly knows who I am and I trust him to handle the wager and verify my assets.
You in big man?
Missing White Woman SyndromeQuote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
The public loves any story about average-or-better-looking white women under 40 who go missing. Nobody gives a shit if the missing person is an older female, a nonwhite female, an ugly female, or any male, unless they're already famous for something else.
Suffice to say that 100% of this forum could go missing and nobody would care.
pretty sure there is still a APB/MP out for Gordmans wife since she got stuck at Chicago airport in the rain. word is some ex pfa member has her in his basementQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffMissing White Woman SyndromeQuote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
The public loves any story about average-or-better-looking white women under 40 who go missing. Nobody gives a shit the missing person is an older female, a nonwhite female, an ugly female, or any male, unless they're already famous for something else.
Suffice to say that 100% of this forum could go missing and nobody would care.
Blake is likely dead and you faggots should care he was basically a slightly obese white women with hairy arms but his life mattered
See this is what happens when people quit PFA. We can't keep track of when they croak.Quote:
Originally Posted by lol wow
Alright so whats the next crime we can solve DID I HEAR RUMBLINGS OF TODGER BEING INVOLVED IN A PONZI SCHEME or someone get to the bottom of the reffing in this chargers game and why they didnt cover i want pie charts internet
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Originally Posted by lol wow
The 2 lesbians is still open for discussion...I think he did all 3. fk it, in for in a penny in for a pound? eh Mr H?
https://youtu.be/JZRRYp_etBwQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
The great Patrice O’Neal on this issue…Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffMissing White Woman SyndromeQuote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
The public loves any story about average-or-better-looking white women under 40 who go missing. Nobody gives a shit the missing person is an older female, a nonwhite female, an ugly female, or any male, unless they're already famous for something else.
Suffice to say that 100% of this forum could go missing and nobody would care.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xm1c9b
Why is this queer holding back tears and choking trying not to cry? This cracka is a FBI agent, geez show some professionalism.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumblesBadlyhttps://youtu.be/JZRRYp_etBwQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Surprised he's evaded being seen for these last 2 days (since it became known he wasn't at home). This case has such huge publicity, you'd think someone would have spotted him by now.
Either he's hiding out in some remote area, has left the country, or is dead.
Found her remains in Wyoming, such a shame. Grand Titon national park
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I believe his parents know his location...
They said on Tuesday, he left in the Mustang to go to this preserve. Now here is the funny thing - the parents said they went to the preserve the following day (Wednesday) and brought his car home. They then reported him missing on Friday.
I find it odd that they would go take his only source of transportation. Or did Brian and the parents concoct the entire story about the car being at the preserve to throw off law enforcement?
Pretty sure they are full of shit about the preserve. Very high chance they knew he wasn't there. Why give up his location on Friday after hiding the fact for at least 3 days that he had run off?Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVarianceQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I believe his parents know his location...
They said on Tuesday, he left in the Mustang to go to this preserve. Now here is the funny thing - the parents said they went to the preserve the following day (Wednesday) and brought his car home. They then reported him missing on Friday.
I find it odd that they would go take his only source of transportation. Or did Brian and the parents concoct the entire story about the car being at the preserve to throw off law enforcement?
I do wonder what they think his plan is, though. I don't think they'd have lied for him so he could commit suicide. So either they unrealistically believe he can hide forever (lol), or there was some plan to sneak him out of the country while they stalled. I think there's some chance they got another vehicle for him, and are just hoping he can change his appearance and vanish.
Cops screwed up by not getting a search warrant for the house, and bringing him in for questioning right away. There was definitely enough suspicion that he had committed a crime in order to justify that. I think there's a high chance he get arrested and charged immediately if they find him, given that a body has now been found, and it was connected to a verified location of their van.
These stupid Gringos think he can evade the police forever? His parents will go to jail for lying to the FBI. He's probably being hidden by a friend or relative somewhere remote with no cell phone to track. He'll turn up in about 6 weeks, because someone got sloppy or he got cabin fever and had to go out and was seen by someone walking their dog or going camping.
This is essentially a camping story involving two Floridians. Holds no interest for me.
Garrett or Bottomset, any experience evading the authorities in Florida?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffPretty sure they are full of shit about the preserve. Very high chance they knew he wasn't there. Why give up his location on Friday after hiding the fact for at least 3 days that he had run off?Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
I do wonder what they think his plan is, though. I don't think they'd have lied for him so he could commit suicide. So either they unrealistically believe he can hide forever (lol), or there was some plan to sneak him out of the country while they stalled. I think there's some chance they got another vehicle for him, and are just hoping he can change his appearance and vanish.
Cops screwed up by not getting a search warrant for the house, and bringing him in for questioning right away. There was definitely enough suspicion that he had committed a crime in order to justify that. I think there's a high chance he get arrested and charged immediately if they find him, given that a body has now been found, and it was connected to a verified location of their van.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGQ-ISsDm8MQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
They finally got a warrant for the Laundrie house. In the warrant, a bizarre text was listed as having been sent from Gabby on August 27.
"Can you help Stan, I just keep getting his voicemails and missed calls"
Stan is her grandfather, but she never calls him by his first name. It is likely this was sent by Brian, but it's not clear why. Gabby's mom had communication with her by text on August 27, but not by phone, so this makes it even more likely that these texts were not sent by her, and she was already dead by the 27th. It's obvious that the text sent on August 30th wasn't from her.
Her van showed up on that vlogger's video from August 27th, and her body was found not far from that location. I don't think it's likely he hung out at the site of the murder after doing it, so the people probably drove by as he was disposing of the body or whatever.
I think we have the date of the murder now.
Here's the search warrant btw, though it may fail loading because everyone's hammering the AWS server for it: https://htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws....1632165383.pdf
lol at Florida. Finally got around to the ol' search warrant. Could you imagine if this was your kid? No way I would have lasted that long without going over there and beating some answers out of someone.