Is the US Military "a bunch of cowards"?

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

The funniest part is you thinking any of your views deserve a serious response from someone. You're comparing what this guy does to what the US military does. If you can't see the difference for yourself, nothing he says will matter. You are just a stupid person. It's ok. They are everywhere nowadays.

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Only time you have given advice that was worth reading was on how to avoid taxes. You're as worthless as worthless can be defined. He isn't saying there is no difference. (you idiot) He is talking more about how we as a society REACT to these situations. You and Sonatine can't rise above group-think, so it falls of deaf ears. (or blind eyes?) Whats new. Maybe Gut is a bit out there, but at least he thinks for himself.

You're just another n-word.

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Originally Posted by gut

don't forget kids, I'm not even on this nugs side. That could be quickly forgotten while Anal swings on Sonatine's nuts during this thread.

But anyway....

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It has been established it isn't mere nut-swinging, but full on fellatio.

Anal, hows the taste? anal ? anal ? hellllooo

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Originally Posted by bukowski72

I know a US drone pilot. He volunteered for 2 trips through Iraq on the ground and was almost killed(up close) more than once. When he was deciding to leave the armed forces they asked him to join the drone program.

He had to learn to fly planes and was trying to give members of my family free flights to AC on small planes which they mostly rejected. After his service he got his regular pilots license he started training to become a drone pilot.

He doesn't sit in his little video game hanger thinking he is wiping out non-real life targets.

Fuck You donkdowndonedied.

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I'll say I am sorry for insulting your friend, if you acknowledge all the shitty things the military does. What job did this guy quit? What were his prospects that he gave up to go down such a noble path?

Explain to me how our war in Iraq was a good thing that protected our freedom.

Obviously the guy knows when the drone is live he is killing people. I am not even sure what you think I am saying. You people let your emotions get in your head.

It will be nice one of these days when all the military is push button, and there are only a few people who can make any decisions. Great. Love the checks and balances there, but lets not even go down that hole.

gut.

the only person anywhere near your corner in this fight is donkdowndonedied.


what does that tell you?

thats a legit, serious question.

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

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Originally Posted by gut

either of you two idiots know what hypothetical means? Or devils advocate. Fucking hell, folks!

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How can you play devils advocate for a guy who randomly killed a young girl and her fiance? What could the police have possibly done to this guy that would EVER make what he did okay in your mind? Even assuming he was justified in killing the daughter (lol, but obv some of you dipshits somehow see his pov) how does that justify randomly killing her fiance who had NOTHING to do with this? You are babbling about the US military and God knows what else when this is just a crazy asshole killing people. You are trying to give his actions some sort of legitimacy. Only a fucking idiot would do that. That leaves you and dipshitdonedied.

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You're the same guy who ridiculed Sriouslyserious for trying to get his money back without resorting to being physical. Just all up in his face over the way he went about it. Yet you never actually suggested anything reasonable. Darner takes the far opposite approach with his beef and goes for blood. Now you cry about it. Your life's philosophy is that of being a internet troll and nothing else. You're a fucking life loser of the highest degree.

Sonatine just makes me want to puke with his pseudointellectual shit, but he is not a bone-fide idiot. I mean how many wrong reads on Jasep did he have, but it never stopped him from expressing those reads in some intelligent sounding manner. So funny.

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

How can you play devils advocate for a guy who randomly killed a young girl and her fiance? What could the police have possibly done to this guy that would EVER make what he did okay in your mind? Even assuming he was justified in killing the daughter (lol, but obv some of you dipshits somehow see his pov) how does that justify randomly killing her fiance who had NOTHING to do with this? You are babbling about the US military and God knows what else when this is just a crazy asshole killing people. You are trying to give his actions some sort of legitimacy. Only a fucking idiot would do that. That leaves you and dipshitdonedied.

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You're the same guy who ridiculed Sriouslyserious for trying to get his money back without resorting to being physical. Just all up in his face over the way he went about it. Yet you never actually suggested anything reasonable. Darner takes the far opposite approach his beef and goes for blood. Now you cry about it. Your life's philosophy is that of being a internet troll and nothing else. You're a fucking life loser of the highest degree.

Sonatine just makes me want to puke with his pseudointellectual shit, but he is not a bone-fide idiot. I mean how many wrong reads on Jasep did he have, but it never stopped him from expressing those reads in some intelligent sounding manner. So funny.

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I NEVER said be physical. Find one quote where I said that. You can't. He said his only option was to take it in the ass. I said it wasn't. Try again numbnuts.

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

You're the same guy who ridiculed Sriouslyserious for trying to get his money back without resorting to being physical. Just all up in his face over the way he went about it. Yet you never actually suggested anything reasonable. Darner takes the far opposite approach his beef and goes for blood. Now you cry about it. Your life's philosophy is that of being a internet troll and nothing else. You're a fucking life loser of the highest degree.

Sonatine just makes me want to puke with his pseudointellectual shit, but he is not a bone-fide idiot. I mean how many wrong reads on Jasep did he have, but it never stopped him from expressing those reads in some intelligent sounding manner. So funny.

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I NEVER said be physical. Find one quote where I said that. You can't. He said his only option was to take it in the ass. I said it wasn't. Try again numbnuts.

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Yawn. Yea, I remember the thread. You ridiculed his approach which was reasonable and not physical. There really aren't many other options that aren't physical. At least you never came up with one. You called him a pussy etc IIRC. You never said be physical, you just implied that he was a pussy for the way he went about it.

One guy went to a debtor's house, met his mother, got a picture with her. You called that being a pussy.

Thats all you do. You live for this shit. You are probably about the most mentally ill person on this board for putting in so much effort day in and day out trolling people. Yea you outted the inevitable Jasep. Congrats. Life fucking loser.

Sonatine, this guy is the main one in your circle here. What does that tell *you* ?

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

You're the same guy who ridiculed Sriouslyserious for trying to get his money back without resorting to being physical.

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

You never said be physical,

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:lol2

Then you wonder why people think you are a fucking idiot. You can't even keep track of your made up bullshit. Go pop your midol and take a nap little guy. You're contradicting yourself in posts you made on the same fucking page. That's 408 stuff right there. Next you're gonna tell us your addicted to meth and fucking stuffed animals. At least it would explain your room temperature IQ.

I'm confused... Is donkdowndonedied calling the majority of our military today cowards because he doesn't believe in the cause for the wars of the last 20 or so years and their titles, and thinks that we have an unfair advantage? Tell that to the guys fighting in Afghanistan at the moment.

Seriously man, to sit behind a computer and call these guys cowards is ludicrous.

Quick story... I have a lot of vets come to my bar. A while back I had a kid that had just come back from his 2nd tour in Afghanistan. He had two older guys sitting next to him and we all got to talking. One of the old guys asked him "how was it for you over there?". His response was a very quick lesson on what not to ask a vet. He replied "man, I mean no offense by this, but that is the worst question you can ask. I had two of my best buddies killed right in front of me this last tour... I mean, how am I supposed to answer that? It fucking sucked."

Until you've been in one of these guys shoes I don't think you are really even qualified to judge their level of bravery.

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

You never said be physical,

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:lol2

Then you wonder why people think you are a fucking idiot. You can't even keep track of your made up bullshit. Go pop your midol and take a nap little guy. You're contradicting yourself in posts you made on the same fucking page. That's 408 stuff right there. Next you're gonna tell us your addicted to meth and fucking stuffed animals. At least it would explain your room temperature IQ.

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It isn't made up. What were you implying SS do if not be physical? Did you ever give any suggestion? No. You were implying he should be physical, or just talking total randomly gobbly gook. (Which is actually what was going on)

Actually, you seem not to understand the concept of implying. Sad but true.

Please don't insult my IQ. My ego is so fragile you internet tough guy.

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Originally Posted by vegas1369

I'm confused... Is donkdowndonedied calling the majority of our military today cowards because he doesn't believe in the cause for the wars of the last 20 or so years and their titles, and thinks that we have an unfair advantage? Tell that to the guys fighting in Afghanistan at the moment.

Seriously man, to sit behind a computer and call these guys cowards is ludicrous.

Quick story... I have a lot of vets come to my bar. A while back I had a kid that had just come back from his 2nd tour in Afghanistan. He had two older guys sitting next to him and we all got to talking. One of the old guys asked him "how was it for you over there?". His response was a very quick lesson on what not to ask a vet. He replied "man, I mean no offense by this, but that is the worst question you can ask. I had two of my best buddies killed right in front of me this last tour... I mean, how am I supposed to answer that? It fucking sucked."

Until you've been in one of these guys shoes I don't think you are really even qualified to judge their level of bravery.

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If you are going to call Darner a coward, then logically it would follow that our military is full of cowards. I mean, shooting the girl and fiance in the head is a bit of a stretch, but those are the tactics of war. Shooting those cops and "not giving them a chance" does not make him a coward. You do not risk your own life in war. To this guy, Darner, it is war. I would call Darner no more a coward than a lot of the armed forces, or the LAPD that randomly shot innocent people on hope. Is Darner evil? Maybe. Misguided? Probably. A coward? No. Not by any standards I have ever been taught growing up.

By putting war and all vets up on some pedestal you are ENABLING future situations. Yea war sucks, no fucking shit, and you assholes just enable future Iraq Wars by being sheep who buy into this shit. The military needs it, because they need fresh bodies. Have you ever studied the various wars the US has been in? They're rarely noble.

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

:lol2

Then you wonder why people think you are a fucking idiot. You can't even keep track of your made up bullshit. Go pop your midol and take a nap little guy. You're contradicting yourself in posts you made on the same fucking page. That's 408 stuff right there. Next you're gonna tell us your addicted to meth and fucking stuffed animals. At least it would explain your room temperature IQ.

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It isn't made up. What were you implying SS do if not be physical? Did you ever give any suggestion? No. You were implying he should be physical, or just talking total randomly gobbly gook. (Which is actually what was going on)

Actually, you seem not to understand the concept of implying. Sad but true.

Please don't insult my IQ. My ego is so fragile you internet tough guy.

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See post #155 itt 409. You are so hopped up on something you can't keep thoughts straight from one post to the next.

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

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Originally Posted by vegas1369

I'm confused... Is donkdowndonedied calling the majority of our military today cowards because he doesn't believe in the cause for the wars of the last 20 or so years and their titles, and thinks that we have an unfair advantage? Tell that to the guys fighting in Afghanistan at the moment.

Seriously man, to sit behind a computer and call these guys cowards is ludicrous.

Quick story... I have a lot of vets come to my bar. A while back I had a kid that had just come back from his 2nd tour in Afghanistan. He had two older guys sitting next to him and we all got to talking. One of the old guys asked him "how was it for you over there?". His response was a very quick lesson on what not to ask a vet. He replied "man, I mean no offense by this, but that is the worst question you can ask. I had two of my best buddies killed right in front of me this last tour... I mean, how am I supposed to answer that? It fucking sucked."

Until you've been in one of these guys shoes I don't think you are really even qualified to judge their level of bravery.

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If you are going to call Darner a coward, then logically it would follow that our military is full of cowards. I mean, shooting the girl and fiance in the head is a bit of a stretch, but those are the tactics of war. Shooting those cops and "not giving them a chance" does not make him a coward. You do not risk your own life in war. To this guy, Darner, it is war. I would call Darner no more a coward than a lot of the armed forces, or the LAPD that randomly shot innocent people on hope. Is Darner evil? Maybe. Misguided? Probably. A coward? No. Not by any standards I have ever been taught growing up.

By putting war and all vets up on some pedestal you are ENABLING future situations. Yea war sucks, no fucking shit, and you assholes just enable future Iraq Wars by being sheep who buy into this shit. The military needs it, because they need fresh bodies. Have you ever studied the various wars the US has been in? They're rarely noble.

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Arent you glad we got that straightened out Vegas?


Also, IP ban.

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

I mean, shooting the girl and fiance in the head is a bit of a stretch,

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I seriously hope nobody read anything after that sentence.

A bit?

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Originally Posted by sonatine

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

If you are going to call Darner a coward, then logically it would follow that our military is full of cowards. I mean, shooting the girl and fiance in the head is a bit of a stretch, but those are the tactics of war. Shooting those cops and "not giving them a chance" does not make him a coward. You do not risk your own life in war. To this guy, Darner, it is war. I would call Darner no more a coward than a lot of the armed forces, or the LAPD that randomly shot innocent people on hope. Is Darner evil? Maybe. Misguided? Probably. A coward? No. Not by any standards I have ever been taught growing up.

By putting war and all vets up on some pedestal you are ENABLING future situations. Yea war sucks, no fucking shit, and you assholes just enable future Iraq Wars by being sheep who buy into this shit. The military needs it, because they need fresh bodies. Have you ever studied the various wars the US has been in? They're rarely noble.

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Arent you glad we got that straightened out Vegas?


Also, IP ban.

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LOL!

I'm confused... Did donkdowndied just call me an asshole?

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Originally Posted by vegas1369

I'm confused... Is donkdowndonedied calling the majority of our military today cowards because he doesn't believe in the cause for the wars of the last 20 or so years and their titles, and thinks that we have an unfair advantage? Tell that to the guys fighting in Afghanistan at the moment.

Seriously man, to sit behind a computer and call these guys cowards is ludicrous.

Quick story... I have a lot of vets come to my bar. A while back I had a kid that had just come back from his 2nd tour in Afghanistan. He had two older guys sitting next to him and we all got to talking. One of the old guys asked him "how was it for you over there?". His response was a very quick lesson on what not to ask a vet. He replied "man, I mean no offense by this, but that is the worst question you can ask. I had two of my best buddies killed right in front of me this last tour... I mean, how am I supposed to answer that? It fucking sucked."

Until you've been in one of these guys shoes I don't think you are really even qualified to judge their level of bravery.

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So after reading your story. How about I tell you a story of a friend who was in a car wreck with someone who died. Someone aked them about it. They started relaying the story. Does that make them brave because shit happened to them? It is common sense people don't want to talk about such things. Your story goes nowhere. No one is arguing about how ugly war is. I think I might have a better idea than you guys and thats why I'm so against putting military up on a pedestal. Someone has to actually DO something selflessly to become a hero. Until then, they're not a hero in my eyes. They were someone doing their job. Yet you guys want to talk about how great the miltiary guys are, protecting our freedom, so the next generation of poor stupid kids can sign up to continue all this shit. Fuck that and fuck evil by stupidity.

Again, Sonatine will not attack my ideas directly because he lacks the capacity. He just sits on the sideline making little comments trying to influence people. Pathetic.

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

I mean, shooting the girl and fiance in the head is a bit of a stretch,

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I seriously hope nobody read anything after that sentence.

A bit?

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Well when I hear Darner called a coward, there are 2 things. The ambushing of cops and the civilians. The civilian part muddies the argument. I am not going to bother to connect the dots too much, but I felt I had to address that. I've seen police chiefs call him a coward for shooting the other cops. Say WHAT. They're called tactics. I don't need to hear propaganda from some cop who should also be addressing why his force is opening fire on random civilians. You guys never address the difficult stuff, I do even if it doesn't help my case.

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

I seriously hope nobody read anything after that sentence.

A bit?

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Well when I hear Darner called a coward, there are 2 things. The ambushing of cops and the civilians. The civilian part muddies the argument. I am not going to bother to connect the dots too much, but I felt I had to address that. I've seen police chiefs call him a coward for shooting the other cops. Say WHAT. They're called tactics. I don't need to hear propaganda from some cop who should also be addressing why his force is opening fire on random civilians. You guys never address the difficult stuff, I do even if it doesn't help my case.

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You think killing 3 innocent people is a "bit of a stretch" and only "muddies the argument"?

:lol2

Keep the laughs coming 409!

Anal you troll a good game, but I am almost certain you'd be the biggest pansy in real life. With all your bullshit advice, and random cyber bullying, you have to be the hugest puss in real life.

Book it.