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Dr. Jordan Peterson of University of Toronto rose to prominence by stating he wouldn't follow this law.Quote:
Originally Posted by GringoStar
Various snowflakes on campus protested him, a video was shot, some of the freaks protesting committed violence and theft, and Peterson became a hero.
Peterson is fighting an important fight here in Canada. He's fucking brilliant in debate. If you catch him on rogans podcast or YouTube many of his debates he articulates so well why all this garbage is a problem. He also puts out all his university lectures on YouTube and there's some amazing content in there. Big fan of Peterson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffDr. Jordan Peterson of University of Toronto rose to prominence by stating he wouldn't follow this law.Quote:
Originally Posted by GringoStar
Various snowflakes on campus protested him, a video was shot, some of the freaks protesting committed violence and theft, and Peterson became a hero.
Peterson has been on Rogan 3 times with the latest one last week and he always is very solid. I have also briefly listened to some of his podcasts. I feel like he sometimes reads into things that aren't really there, like his analysis of 20th century European philosophers and his analysis of some of the Bible stories. However, I am not so sure that is even a bad thing, as most of the time the message he is trying to draw from the stories is about men empowering themselves and being more ethical and moral, which isn't a bad thing; and he has a lot of insights into the psyche that I think resonates well with most people, especially men.
http://www.cba.org/CMSPages/GetFile....a-432eeb762d7f
I am a fan of Jordan Peterson but he is wrong here. He's latched on to fear mongering as a way to make a name for himself. As the Canadian bar association explains no one is going to jail here. See my link for the full reasoning.
If the same fear mongering logic in bill c-16 was applied to other protected groups supposedly people would be locked up for calling someone a n-word, that a movie was gay, or numerous other offensive remarks. That never happens in Canada and anyone would laugh at you for thinking so. As the articles explains the bar for hate speech is set much higher than being offensive or having a dissenting opinion.
For those of you who don;t want to read the full 4 pages... see this statement.
The amendment to the CHRA will not compel the speech of private citizens. Nor will it hamper the
evolution of academic debates about sex and gender, race and ethnicity, nature and culture, and other
genuine and continuing inquiries that mark our common quest for understanding of the human condition.
The amendment will, however, make explicit the existing requirement for the federal government and
federally regulated providers of goods and services to ensure that personal information, like sex or
gender, is collected only for legitimate purposes and not used to perpetuate discrimination or undermine
privacy rights. In federally regulated workplaces, services, accommodation, and other areas covered by
the CHRA, it will constrain unwanted, persistent behaviour (physical or verbal) that offends or humiliates
individuals on the basis of their gender identity or expression
Yup - I have been following JP closely since the start. It's amazing how a boring, Christian psychologist has become a cult hero by stating simple facts about history and psychology.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffDr. Jordan Peterson of University of Toronto rose to prominence by stating he wouldn't follow this law.Quote:
Originally Posted by GringoStar
Various snowflakes on campus protested him, a video was shot, some of the freaks protesting committed violence and theft, and Peterson became a hero.
The most recent JRE with him and Brett Weinstein is a great conversation.
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Originally Posted by BetCheckBet
The problem isn't that c-16 will actually result in arrests, it's a problem because they are starting to legislate offensiveness based on superficial characteristics of the victim.
I don't think hate crime laws should exist for any group, so providing it for people who decide on their gender is ridiculous.
Also, it's not fear mongering. A stand-up comic was charged with a hate crime in Canada for insulting a lesbian couple that was heckling his act and he was fined tens of thousands of dollars. Had he not paid the fine, he would have gone to jail, so they are enforcing this bullshit. The larger problem is that it's a slippery slope and is just a symptom of the larger victim-Olympics that has been going on.
Are you sure they were charged with a hate crime? The case I'm thinking of no criminal charges were laid... was about PTSD from being verbally attacked. As I mentione hate crime is a pretty serious thing and unlikely you are not doing jailtime for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by GringoStarQuote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBet
The problem isn't that c-16 will actually result in arrests, it's a problem because they are starting to legislate offensiveness based on superficial characteristics of the victim.
I don't think hate crime laws should exist for any group, so providing it for people who decide on their gender is ridiculous.
Also, it's not fear mongering. A stand-up comic was charged with a hate crime in Canada for insulting a lesbian couple that was heckling his act and he was fined tens of thousands of dollars. Had he not paid the fine, he would have gone to jail, so they are enforcing this bullshit. The larger problem is that it's a slippery slope and is just a symptom of the larger victim-Olympics that has been going on.
I do agree the case was stupid though