**OFFICIAL Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph (Joe) R. Biden Thread - 2020 Presidential Election**

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Originally Posted by adamantium

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

The My Pillow guy says Fox News helped rig the election. I guess everyone there who was in on it kept it from Hannity, Tucker and Laura. Unless they were in on it too?

Between that and North Korea's fake ballots delivered to Maine, it's no wonder Biden stole it so easily.

Druff, what happened to the Cuckoo smiley?

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Go read http://thedonald.win I have never seen so much insanity in one place

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I did, and it's truly scary.

If they didn't get the result they wanted, it must be unconstitutional, and a huge conspiracy across 6+ states involving thousands of conspirators. And they're ready to kill for this stupidity.

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Originally Posted by rum dick

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Instead of making me do a guessing game, how about you just tell us which conservative views you held prior to 2016, how you feel now, and how Trump changed those views.

I'd prefer to see views which haven't shifted in mainstream society as a whole. For example, it's copout to say something like, "I used to be against gay marriage, now I support it", or "I used to think police brutality was an exaggerated claim, but now I feel we need major reform".

I want to see issues which still currently divide most Americans, to where you switched your views from conservative to liberal.

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I used to be ridiculously pro-life, pro-2nd amendment, thought the smaller the government the absolute better, was beyond against taxes, thought we could force democracy on other countries... I could go on...

But you're missing the point.

Let's try this. I was a member of a group that my family raised me in and I'd probably still be a member of that group but for the shock to the system that was an absolute pos reality star tard taking control of that group. It's like being raised in a religious group and all of the sudden a kid diddler becomes the voice of God for that religion. It'd be weird as fuck not to say hey wait a sec maybe I'm doing it wrong.

As soon as you start reevaluating your belief system you start being open to new ideas....

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I really wish NWP/DD was still around and searchable, because then I could find the 2007-ish political debate we had where you seemed anything but right wing.

Regardless, even if you really were a legit conservative until Trump showed up as GOP nominee, I still think your abrupt change in political philosophy is more of an emotional reaction to hatred of Trump, rather than a logical examination of your previously held beliefs.

I think this was easy for you, because you viewed Trump as the embodiment of selfishness, ignorance, greed, and boorishess, so anything opposite of him probably seemed correct. This made your "reevaluation" much easier.

Additionally, because the left purports to be about equality and sensitivity toward marginalized people, it's easy to quickly claim moral high ground by taking on such beliefs. The much greater intellectual challenge comes from examining why your knee-jerk reaction to support the perceived underdog might not be correct. Often those on the left don't want to do it, because the laziest form of thinking -- that the underdog is always the victim -- is easiest to accept and allows you to feel good.

Take the George Floyd killing. Any objective, rational person will admit that this was a case of police brutality, and the officer should definitely be charged. But was it racism? We see no evidence of that. Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't, but seriously, there is no evidence that this was a killing motivated by anything having to do with race. Indeed, if Floyd was a big, scary-looking white guy, we very well might have had the same result.

The lazy man will call it racism simply because a white cop killed a black man. The person interested in truth will objectively ask for the evidence showing that racism was responsible.

But which is the safer option, where you can claim the perceived empathetic and moral high ground? Obviously the safest opinion is simply to call it racist and say police are routinely targeting black men, and call it a day. Opposing this requires effort and critical thinking. Going along with the woke narrative is easiest both by peer reaction and by ability to pat yourself on the back.

I believe you hated Trump to where your "reevaluation" involved you felt like a good, sensitive person by taking the positions opposite of a jerk like Trump, and that made your complete political transformation that much easier.

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Originally Posted by adamantium

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

The My Pillow guy says Fox News helped rig the election. I guess everyone there who was in on it kept it from Hannity, Tucker and Laura. Unless they were in on it too?

Between that and North Korea's fake ballots delivered to Maine, it's no wonder Biden stole it so easily.

Druff, what happened to the Cuckoo smiley?

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Go read http://thedonald.win I have never seen so much insanity in one place

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That's because you're in Norway and you didn't get to visit major US cities during the BLM protests/riots.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by adamantium

Go read http://thedonald.win I have never seen so much insanity in one place

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That's because you're in Norway and you didn't get to visit major US cities during the BLM protests/riots.

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People of the world. Let it be known, discussions on any topic are constrained to the spot in the world where you were dropped.

Never mind that third party mediation is a tried a true method to resolve disputes in which two heavily biased parties are at a stalemate

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by adamantium

Go read http://thedonald.win I have never seen so much insanity in one place

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That's because you're in Norway and you didn't get to visit major US cities during the BLM protests/riots.

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oh didnt know you were a frequent poster there, remember sunday is gunday

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by adamantium

Go read http://thedonald.win I have never seen so much insanity in one place

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you didn't get to visit major US cities during the BLM protests/riots.

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Did you? I missed that trip report.

in fairness to that officer, George floyd died of a fentanyl overdose.

fentanyl isn't racist

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Originally Posted by dwai

in fairness to that officer, George floyd died of a fentanyl overdose.

fentanyl isn't racist

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I think we all can agree on that , the main thing is that trump lost in a landslide, hes like winning at losing

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by adamantium

Go read http://thedonald.win I have never seen so much insanity in one place

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That's because you're in Norway and you didn't get to visit major US cities during the BLM protests/riots.

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Not even remotely comparable.

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Originally Posted by adamantium

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Originally Posted by dwai

in fairness to that officer, George floyd died of a fentanyl overdose.

fentanyl isn't racist

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I think we all can agree on that , the main thing is that trump lost in a landslide, hes like winning at losing

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wasn't really a landslide, but yes Trump lost

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by rum dick

I used to be ridiculously pro-life, pro-2nd amendment, thought the smaller the government the absolute better, was beyond against taxes, thought we could force democracy on other countries... I could go on...

But you're missing the point.

Let's try this. I was a member of a group that my family raised me in and I'd probably still be a member of that group but for the shock to the system that was an absolute pos reality star tard taking control of that group. It's like being raised in a religious group and all of the sudden a kid diddler becomes the voice of God for that religion. It'd be weird as fuck not to say hey wait a sec maybe I'm doing it wrong.

As soon as you start reevaluating your belief system you start being open to new ideas....

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I really wish NWP/DD was still around and searchable, because then I could find the 2007-ish political debate we had where you seemed anything but right wing.

Regardless, even if you really were a legit conservative until Trump showed up as GOP nominee, I still think your abrupt change in political philosophy is more of an emotional reaction to hatred of Trump, rather than a logical examination of your previously held beliefs.

I think this was easy for you, because you viewed Trump as the embodiment of selfishness, ignorance, greed, and boorishess, so anything opposite of him probably seemed correct. This made your "reevaluation" much easier.

Additionally, because the left purports to be about equality and sensitivity toward marginalized people, it's easy to quickly claim moral high ground by taking on such beliefs. The much greater intellectual challenge comes from examining why your knee-jerk reaction to support the perceived underdog might not be correct. Often those on the left don't want to do it, because the laziest form of thinking -- that the underdog is always the victim -- is easiest to accept and allows you to feel good.

Take the George Floyd killing. Any objective, rational person will admit that this was a case of police brutality, and the officer should definitely be charged. But was it racism? We see no evidence of that. Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't, but seriously, there is no evidence that this was a killing motivated by anything having to do with race. Indeed, if Floyd was a big, scary-looking white guy, we very well might have had the same result.

The lazy man will call it racism simply because a white cop killed a black man. The person interested in truth will objectively ask for the evidence showing that racism was responsible.

But which is the safer option, where you can claim the perceived empathetic and moral high ground? Obviously the safest opinion is simply to call it racist and say police are routinely targeting black men, and call it a day. Opposing this requires effort and critical thinking. Going along with the woke narrative is easiest both by peer reaction and by ability to pat yourself on the back.

I believe you hated Trump to where your "reevaluation" involved you felt like a good, sensitive person by taking the positions opposite of a jerk like Trump, and that made your complete political transformation that much easier.

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Dang Druff. You just ignore what I'm saying and then respond with a wall of text of what you *think* I believe.

Maybe you can try slowing down and taking a moment and think about what I wrote before writing your missives?

Dwai I swear to God we're gonna have a problem if you don't start doing fast food reports or whatever instead of telling me what to do.

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Originally Posted by rum dick

Dwai I swear to God we're gonna have a problem if you don't start doing fast food reports or whatever instead of telling me what to do.

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I'm eating 7/11 pizza rn, 6 outta 10

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Originally Posted by rum dick

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

[ jesus christ... ]

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Dang Druff. You just ignore what I'm saying and then respond with a wall of text of what you *think* I believe.

Maybe you can try slowing down and taking a moment and think about what I wrote before writing your missives?

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yeah thats not really been his brand lately.

also lets get this thread back on track.


https://i.imgur.com/05ZBPI0.jpg

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The chosen one for the GOP is looking rough..

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Originally Posted by rum dick

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I really wish NWP/DD was still around and searchable, because then I could find the 2007-ish political debate we had where you seemed anything but right wing.

Regardless, even if you really were a legit conservative until Trump showed up as GOP nominee, I still think your abrupt change in political philosophy is more of an emotional reaction to hatred of Trump, rather than a logical examination of your previously held beliefs.

I think this was easy for you, because you viewed Trump as the embodiment of selfishness, ignorance, greed, and boorishess, so anything opposite of him probably seemed correct. This made your "reevaluation" much easier.

Additionally, because the left purports to be about equality and sensitivity toward marginalized people, it's easy to quickly claim moral high ground by taking on such beliefs. The much greater intellectual challenge comes from examining why your knee-jerk reaction to support the perceived underdog might not be correct. Often those on the left don't want to do it, because the laziest form of thinking -- that the underdog is always the victim -- is easiest to accept and allows you to feel good.

Take the George Floyd killing. Any objective, rational person will admit that this was a case of police brutality, and the officer should definitely be charged. But was it racism? We see no evidence of that. Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't, but seriously, there is no evidence that this was a killing motivated by anything having to do with race. Indeed, if Floyd was a big, scary-looking white guy, we very well might have had the same result.

The lazy man will call it racism simply because a white cop killed a black man. The person interested in truth will objectively ask for the evidence showing that racism was responsible.

But which is the safer option, where you can claim the perceived empathetic and moral high ground? Obviously the safest opinion is simply to call it racist and say police are routinely targeting black men, and call it a day. Opposing this requires effort and critical thinking. Going along with the woke narrative is easiest both by peer reaction and by ability to pat yourself on the back.

I believe you hated Trump to where your "reevaluation" involved you felt like a good, sensitive person by taking the positions opposite of a jerk like Trump, and that made your complete political transformation that much easier.

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Dang Druff. You just ignore what I'm saying and then respond with a wall of text of what you *think* I believe.

Maybe you can try slowing down and taking a moment and think about what I wrote before writing your missives?

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That's what I thought. Didn't seem likely you'd seriously address this behind a token "I realized I was wrong all this time and saw the woke light".

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Originally Posted by dwai

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Originally Posted by rum dick

Dwai I swear to God we're gonna have a problem if you don't start doing fast food reports or whatever instead of telling me what to do.

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I'm eating 7/11 pizza rn, 6 outta 10

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Did you make a slurpee that looked like that clown hair?

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Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe

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The chosen one for the GOP is looking rough..

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He sounds like he’s impersonating his dad. His cadence and everything. I’ve never paid much attention to him, but I’ve never noticed that before.

is that a deep fake?

ive never in my life heard him talk like that.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Didn't seem likely you'd seriously address this behind a token "I realized I was wrong all this time and saw the woke light".

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hmm.....

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Democrats saying in 2020 "OMG THERE MIGHT BE RIGHT WING VIOLENCE" would be like the current Houston Astros complaining that other teams might have the potential to cheat in 2021.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I don't see any coup.

Unless by coup you mean "weak legal challenges which fail, followed by zero bloodshed and the duly elected next leader taking office as scheduled."

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

People on the internet post dumb shit all the time. You and I both know this especially well.

I still maintain we will see little-to-no violence as a result of this, unlike certain "peaceful protests" during the summer.

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Stabbing, Arrests and Violence Mark End to Latest Pro-Trump Protest
https://www.newsweek.com/violence-st...rotest-1554391


Historic D.C. Black churches attacked during pro-Trump rallies Saturday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...aff_story.html

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(ok that tweet isn't relevant to my point)

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Originally Posted by duped_samaritan

hmm.....

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Democrats saying in 2020 "OMG THERE MIGHT BE RIGHT WING VIOLENCE" would be like the current Houston Astros complaining that other teams might have the potential to cheat in 2021.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I don't see any coup.

Unless by coup you mean "weak legal challenges which fail, followed by zero bloodshed and the duly elected next leader taking office as scheduled."

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

People on the internet post dumb shit all the time. You and I both know this especially well.

I still maintain we will see little-to-no violence as a result of this, unlike certain "peaceful protests" during the summer.

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Stabbing, Arrests and Violence Mark End to Latest Pro-Trump Protest
https://www.newsweek.com/violence-st...rotest-1554391


Historic D.C. Black churches attacked during pro-Trump rallies Saturday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...aff_story.html

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(ok that tweet isn't relevant to my point)

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Their white supremacist leader is standing right in the middle. I wonder why he didn’t throw his black ass in the breeze.

Inauguration for what?

President of Shit-Posting on Twitter?

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Originally Posted by nightmarefish

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Originally Posted by duped_samaritan

hmm.....

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I don't see any coup.

Unless by coup you mean "weak legal challenges which fail, followed by zero bloodshed and the duly elected next leader taking office as scheduled."

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

People on the internet post dumb shit all the time. You and I both know this especially well.

I still maintain we will see little-to-no violence as a result of this, unlike certain "peaceful protests" during the summer.

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Stabbing, Arrests and Violence Mark End to Latest Pro-Trump Protest
https://www.newsweek.com/violence-st...rotest-1554391


Historic D.C. Black churches attacked during pro-Trump rallies Saturday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...aff_story.html

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(ok that tweet isn't relevant to my point)

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Their white supremacist leader is standing right in the middle. I wonder why he didn’t throw his black ass in the breeze.

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Grapenuts, Frosted Flakes, Cheerios, Fruit Loops and Honey Bunches of Oats.

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Originally Posted by duped_samaritan

hmm.....

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Democrats saying in 2020 "OMG THERE MIGHT BE RIGHT WING VIOLENCE" would be like the current Houston Astros complaining that other teams might have the potential to cheat in 2021.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I don't see any coup.

Unless by coup you mean "weak legal challenges which fail, followed by zero bloodshed and the duly elected next leader taking office as scheduled."

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

People on the internet post dumb shit all the time. You and I both know this especially well.

I still maintain we will see little-to-no violence as a result of this, unlike certain "peaceful protests" during the summer.

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Stabbing, Arrests and Violence Mark End to Latest Pro-Trump Protest
https://www.newsweek.com/violence-st...rotest-1554391


Historic D.C. Black churches attacked during pro-Trump rallies Saturday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...aff_story.html

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(ok that tweet isn't relevant to my point)

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I could have done without seeing that guy's nutsack.

Y'all remember when Druff was an adult in the room and not a card carrying member of team retard? Sure he was a conservative but he wasn't a batshit koolaid guzzling crazy child like say a jewdonk or a dish. I remember. It's crazy how Trump has managed to take control of even the smart formerly reasonable ones.

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Originally Posted by rum dick

Y'all remember when Druff was an adult in the room and not a card carrying member of team retard? Sure he was a conservative but he wasn't a batshit koolaid guzzling crazy child like say a jewdonk or a dish. I remember. It's crazy how Trump has managed to take control of even the smart formerly reasonable ones.

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The Druff we knew could still be in there somewhere. I'm hoping in the weeks or months after Biden is inaugurated he snaps out of it.

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Originally Posted by duped_samaritan

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Originally Posted by rum dick

Y'all remember when Druff was an adult in the room and not a card carrying member of team retard? Sure he was a conservative but he wasn't a batshit koolaid guzzling crazy child like say a jewdonk or a dish. I remember. It's crazy how Trump has managed to take control of even the smart formerly reasonable ones.

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The Druff we knew could still be in there somewhere. I'm hoping in the weeks or months after Biden is inaugurated he snaps out of it.

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It's all over, he'll have a belly stretching double dinner again someday soon, and this time catch a really serious mental illness.

The Druff we knew is gone.

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Originally Posted by duped_samaritan

hmm.....

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Democrats saying in 2020 "OMG THERE MIGHT BE RIGHT WING VIOLENCE" would be like the current Houston Astros complaining that other teams might have the potential to cheat in 2021.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I don't see any coup.

Unless by coup you mean "weak legal challenges which fail, followed by zero bloodshed and the duly elected next leader taking office as scheduled."

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

People on the internet post dumb shit all the time. You and I both know this especially well.

I still maintain we will see little-to-no violence as a result of this, unlike certain "peaceful protests" during the summer.

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Stabbing, Arrests and Violence Mark End to Latest Pro-Trump Protest
https://www.newsweek.com/violence-st...rotest-1554391


Historic D.C. Black churches attacked during pro-Trump rallies Saturday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...aff_story.html

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(ok that tweet isn't relevant to my point)

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we can definitely trust the media that they're reporting fairly, surely, right?

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Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe

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The same liberal media that propagated the Russia Hoax for four years is the same liberal media that covered up the Hunter Biden investigation during the 2020 election campaign. Big Tech joined in by banning and censoring anyone that tried to report that Hunter Biden was under investigation....although it was clearly obvious he was under investigation. His laptop was subpoena'd. Does that spell out anything to you libtards? When a subpoena is issued someone is under investigation. Of course the liberal media and Big tech allowed former intelligence officials like Brennan, Clapper and Podesta to tell the American people that the Hunter Biden "investigation" was Russian disinformation. A complete and total lie told during the campaign.

AND DURING THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE JOE BIDEN CALLED IT RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION. AN UNADULTERED BLATANT LIE!!! THERE REALLY WAS AN INVESTIGATION GOING ON.

The election is over and the liberal media is treating the Hunter Biden investigation as if it is some kind of new story that just broke. Pure out libtard bullshit.

Do you libtards understand why we don't trust you? It's because of your inability to be honest. Deceit is your long suit. Truth is your casualty. You should all be horsewhipped.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

The same liberal media that propagated the Russia Hoax for four years is the same liberal media that covered up the Hunter Biden investigation during the 2020 election campaign. Big Tech joined in by banning and censoring anyone that tried to report that Hunter Biden was under investigation....although it was clearly obvious he was under investigation. His laptop was subpoena'd. Does that spell out anything to you libtards? When a subpoena is issued someone is under investigation. Of course the liberal media and Big tech allowed former intelligence officials like Brennan, Clapper and Podesta to tell the American people that the Hunter Biden "investigation" was Russian disinformation. A complete and total lie told during the campaign.

AND DURING THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE JOE BIDEN CALLED IT RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION. AN UNADULTERED BLATANT LIE!!! THERE REALLY WAS AN INVESTIGATION GOING ON.

The election is over and the liberal media is treating the Hunter Biden investigation as if it is some kind of new story that just broke. Pure out libtard bullshit.

Do you libtards understand why we don't trust you? It's because of your inability to be honest. Deceit is your long suit. Truth is your casualty. You should all be horsewhipped.

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Electoral College

Biden 7
Trump 28


It’s happening soy boy

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

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hmm.....

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I don't see any coup.

Unless by coup you mean "weak legal challenges which fail, followed by zero bloodshed and the duly elected next leader taking office as scheduled."

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

People on the internet post dumb shit all the time. You and I both know this especially well.

I still maintain we will see little-to-no violence as a result of this, unlike certain "peaceful protests" during the summer.

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Stabbing, Arrests and Violence Mark End to Latest Pro-Trump Protest
https://www.newsweek.com/violence-st...rotest-1554391


Historic D.C. Black churches attacked during pro-Trump rallies Saturday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...aff_story.html

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(ok that tweet isn't relevant to my point)

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I could have done without seeing that guy's nutsack.

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Karmic justice would be if the Proud Boy who exposed his nutsack was prosecuted and convicted of indecent exposure such that he’d have to register as a sex offender for the rest of his days.

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Electoral College

Biden 7
Trump 28


It’s happening soy boy

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STOP THE COUNT!

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The chosen one for the GOP is looking rough..

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The same liberal media that propagated the Russia Hoax for four years

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Reminder:

-Russia interfered
-Trump welcomed it
-Trump obstructed the investigation into it
-Paul Manafort

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Originally Posted by duped_samaritan

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

The same liberal media that propagated the Russia Hoax for four years

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Reminder:

-Russia interfered
-Trump welcomed it
-Trump obstructed the investigation into it
-Paul Manafort

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What does "Russia interfered" mean? Explain it. Put up facts not bullshit.
What does "Trump welcomed it" mean? Is that like "Hillary welcomed the dossier?"
What obstruction by Trump? Again, put up the evidence. Not bullshit. Just the facts. It should be easy for you. Was Trump's "obstruction" like Hillary destroying 30K emails and all phones involved?
Paul Manafort is irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

The same liberal media that propagated the Russia Hoax for four years

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Reminder:

-Russia interfered
-Trump welcomed it
-Trump obstructed the investigation into it
-Paul Manafort

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totally normal

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