A likely scammer trying to scam a scammer.
This should be interesting to say the least.
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Guys Chrissy has stated to members before he has multiple BOL (betonline) accounts, most likely two, he places bigger bets on the other one supposedly... I guess the account we see is for YouTube only, This goes against the site policy of having multiple accounts... Maybe the other account is in Stacey's name though? Worth a shot! IMO Before you report him for having multiple accounts, make sure you sign up for a new account in Chris's name too - preferably by vpn..
The only way they are going to care is if it is known that betonline is partnering closely with a scammer and this connection is made public to the point it effects their reputation.
Not saying this will be easy as an online casino that take US players arent playing by the rules "As is."
An affiliate manager isnt going to do anything. It would need to be at a higher level. Sort of like how the Wynn was going to allow D Lucky to do slots but then someone with connections at the higher levels of the Wynn let them know.
I am not comparing the Wynn to BetOnline. I am just saying it needs to very public that Betonline is a place where scammers/criminals go to send affiliate traffic or something like that.
Anyway, that is the golden ticket to shutting this guy down. Not the mastermind events, not the youtube videos, not the inner circle. It is the affiliate account that is keeping this guy going.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjItLXc__rQ
Chris Bird (Finding Keno) commented on CM's most recent YT video and told our new friend Canyon Steve that he was being greedy.
Birdbrain certainly isn't greedy, because his newest roulette video shows him starting with $700, going down as low as $665 and climbing back up to finish at $706 after 25 minutes of play.
$6 profit in 25 minutes, that's an incredible $13 per hour folks!! How many of you deadbeat douchebag haters are making $13 per hour?
Interestingly, Chris Bird is betting a 1-1-5 system, something that Christopher Mitchell has never shown or talked about.
Despite spending $thousands of dollars in coaching and masterminds, Chris Bird has discarded everything he's been taught and is now trying out random internet roulette strategies that he's learned for free.
what was Stacy's last name before she married CM ?
That's actually not a bad idea. I just have to decide exactly what way to word it.
In November, a girl hit the $250k "must hit" jackpot on Ignition, and they held up her funds for 3 weeks without telling her why. It seemed they were deliberately stalling and trying to find ways not to pay her, and she couldn't get any answers from anyone.
I decided to assist her (even though we didn't know each other), so I posted a sensational headline on Twitter, suggesting that maybe Ignition was broke and that's why they weren't paying her. (This was a possibility because of the FTX-related crypto crash at the time, so it wasn't unreasonable to theorize.) In any case, the tweet got 300k+ views in 24 hours. Ignition realized they had a PR disaster on their hands, and promptly paid her the same day. I asked for nothing in return from her, aside from an appearance on my next radio show.
So this was proof positive that: 1) Massive social media pressure works with these offshore casinos and 2) Even though I only have 4400 followers, I am followed by enough high profile people to amplify important tweets. In fact, I have several tweets which have 6-figure views in the past few months.
The challenge will be getting people interested enough to retweet/like a CM-related story. "Career scammer is an affiliate on BOL" isn't terribly interesting on its face. The reason we all follow Chrissy is because he's so ridiculous and clownish that he's a constant source of entertainment. There are many other YouTube scammers out there, but Chrissy is near the top in the categories of over-the-top lies and ridiculous claims/behavior. The problem is that this is hard to communicate in a tweet.
So I'll have to figure out a proper way to frame this to get people's interest, while not saying anything untrue which would hurt my own reputation.
I do want to give BOL the chance to do the right thing, just like I told that girl on Ignition to call them, ask for the highest manager she could reach, and inform them that a poker influencer was about to blow up this story and make them look bad. Ignition told her they didn't care, probably believing she was bluffing. But I wanted to give Ignition a heads up that this was coming, just in case they were willing to do the right thing and pay her without my having to post something negative about them.
I think my next step will be to contact someone at BOL (I will look into who that might be), and give them a heads up about Chrissy and how he will harm their brand. It needs to be someone influential there, and not just some customer support monkey.
There is a big challenge here, though. Chrissy is clearly driving a lot of profit to BOL. That's why he gets these monthly cash infusions (which he then promptly chunks off via problem gambling). BOL does not want to lose that cash cow. So the only way we are going to have them yank Chrissy's affiliate deal is if they become convinced that being associated with Chrissy will harm their reputation too much.
You should also know that BOL is not against deception in order to get idiots to chunk off money there. That's the whole point of the fake money they give their affiliates to play with on stream. The idea is that the affiliates will show themselves winning big money on stream, and idiots will deposit believing they can accomplish the same. This means that the line of, "OMG GUYZ, DID YA KNOW CHRISTOPHER MITCHELL IS LYING ABOUT HIS STRATEGIES WINNING????" won't fly with them.
I'm going to think about how to best accomplish this. Feel free to post suggestions.
In the meantime, Chrissy, if you don't want this to happen, and if we have you all wrong, I will make an offer to you. If you can prove to me that you are a winning gambler at brick and mortar casinos (I can't trust BOL results for obvious reasons), I will take this thread down, post a public apology, not contact BOL, and pay you $3500 for one of my members to attend your next mastermind event. Get a hold of me by texting (775) 372-8355, and we will hammer out details. Limited time offer.
This is probably true. He is probably very worried that one of us will get into his inner circle and poison the well. He probably checks the Facebook profiles to make sure that they look like an average Joe gullible stooge, and that the profile looks real and has been around for a long time.
Remember when Lee (AHoosierA) tried to serve Chrissy with the appeal to that frivolous restraining order Chrissy filed? Chrissy absolutely would never answer the door. He was hiding -- and not from Lee's process server, as Chrissy did not know the appeal was coming. Chrissy is probably constantly looking over his shoulder to make sure that his various enemies aren't on his tail, or getting access to his latest scam. That's why he never announces in advance exactly where he'll be on which date. We always find out after he's already been there. That's also why he's presently lying about living in Dallas.
I can only imagine how many disgruntled customers he's currently hiding from.
You're assuming that Stacy is a victim here. I used to think that, too.
In reality, it seems like Stacy enjoys the scamming (and its proceeds) almost as much as Chrissy does. Remember, she met him at some lol MLM fitness convention and was "impressed" with this buffoon. She was probably impressed because she noticed he was a slick salesman and wanted to live the easy scamming life, instead of busting her ass every day as a nurse. Obviously Chrissy being a gay narcissist who treats her like shit couldn't be pleasant, but she probably rationalizes that the constant flow of scam money plus the lack of need to work is worth it. Who knows? Maybe she fucks guys on the side like Chrissy probably does. Or maybe sex isn't important to her anymore, because she's getting close to 50.
Does she know he's gay? I'm guessing she does, especially given that her last husband was straight, and she should be able to tell the difference. But I've seen delusional women in this position before, making excuses for their obviously gay husbands.
Anyway, we have Stacy on video speaking at the Birthday Booty Bash and the Mastermind events, so she's fully involved here. She's not just a prop anymore. She is a 47-year-old woman who knows full well that she's assisting Chrissy's scam, and she doesn't give a shit. Both of them belong in prison.
BTW, I might have a lead on how I can get the right people at YouTube to take another look at his channel.
However, this might not pan out, so no promises yet. But if it gets terminated soon, you'll know I was successful in reaching the management team.
BedWetterBettor: While I novel idea, you have to upload a valid ID to match the name you register with for the full gambling ability. So unless we can get an ID with his name and dob, it’s not gonna work!
I have used BOL without uploading ID, there is no checks.. well atleast for me,, not sure where you are from, but they are totally free willy!
If i play anywhere else like chips, gam*** or stake etc i need to upload ID, with BOL, no.... He has multiple accounts without a doubt, atleast a second he plays from as well! With bigger bets..
While I've abandoned this idea (given what we've heard about how Mitchell donks off chunks at the live casinos when there is no filming), I once thought CM might be intentionally touting these losing strategies in order in pad the affiliate money at BOL. We now know he's just an idiot degenerate gambler with a toddler's grasp of math. Also, these obviously flawed strats go back to before he played online or at least started advocating it....so no evil "genius" is at work.
However, an article asking the question "Does Christopher Mitchell sell intentionally losing strategies to rake in affiliate money at BetOnline?" might stir the pot enough to garner the site's attention.
LOL. This is 100 percent false. He has 1 account and only 1 account.
Has another account in which he makes his "big boy" bets. LOL. You guys never actually asked to see this stuff? You just all believed everything you were told simply because he told you and handed him cash?
Just hard to understand as you at least seem to have some sort of intelligence.
To also be clear. Earlier it was 3 accounts. I forget his bullshit reason for the 3rd. I am sure someone here will remember.
And there it is folks, not even ONE day into the month and the extortion plot begins!
I knew he was broke and going to pull this, strangely he always seems to do it every 6 months like clock work!
So what is this “test” from the Colt Goat??? Probably another payment to see how loyal the Chums are to this moron!
I’m sure idiots like Hoa Le, Kevin Blumpkin and Jacqui “ Happy Ending” Mast will do it ::::::smh::::::
He is really desperate for money if he’s already extorting the Colt dolts so soon. No casino trips in weeks, no 5 star meals or fancy hotel tours, no chips or lies about big wins. All he can do is show old footage(which we’ve proven already) and hide his location (which We will confirm soon enough!) and do shitty live streams that look like hostage videos!
He doesn't have another account with large cash in it. Doesn't exist. If he has some dummy account with $0 in it---who knows.
You still believe his nonsense of having another account in which he places these large bets and keeps it to himself. Unbelievable.
BOL won't require an ID if you deposit by crypto. They will require an ID(and more) if you deposited by credit card and then go to make a withdrawal.
edit: After all this and you still believe some of his shit. Just incredible. I'll leave it here as this thread isn't about you. But good lord---a second account that he places larger bets and keeps it to himself-----hahahahahaaaaa
I'm assuming the test is being given to the people already in the inner circle, right? 21 sounds like the number of suckers still in. I fucking guarantee you that one of the steps in the "test" involved giving him money. @infuri8, are you still in touch with anybody inside the group? If so, could you ask them what the test entails? I wanna see it so bad, just for the sake of entertainment and for the sake of seeing just how blatant he made this cash-grab.
Lex Fake-tooth-or is live.
Make him suffer, folks!
Evening Folks
I see Thomas Brady has decided to retire.
I wonder 💭 if he rang Chrissy “The Refrigerator” (fat bastard) Mitchell to get his advice.
Anyones who don’t know I am relating an unfortunately deleted video where Tom rang his friend Chrissy asking him if he should throw a 🏈 game because he was (like Chrissy) sick 😷 of winning all the time.
Shame the vid is lost to posterity, it was a classic.
Shoutout to non verbal bubs 👍
douche bag is live, make a burner account and tell him hello and you are from Chicago in the chat box.....
I do think she's a victim but do think she's complicit in Chrissy's scam too. It does sound like she did want the easy scamming life but things changed when bubs came along and Chrissy kept gambling the money they made from their scams away. She was probably hoping that some of that money would go to help her out such as paying someone to help look after bubs so they can continue to do what they do, so now she's continuing her part in the scam in (perhaps) hope that it'll work out for them. Judging by how terribly she's aged though and its looking like she's been avoiding being in recent videos she may be having second thoughts.
I do also think she knows he is gay (or at least potentially bi) but if she was looking for an easy way out of the life she hated she could have easily looked the other way.
But yes, she does need to be held accountable as much as Chrissy.
He's quick to zap anything he doesn't like in the comments (or Tuna does) but the pained look on his face when they post is pretty funny
Perhaps the lowest hanging fruit is getting people that have been scammed by CM on the radio show in one segment. The more the better. They can talk about how CM committed fraud and then used Betonline unknowingly or knowingly partake in it. Segment of the show could even be something like like "Is Betonline the platform for scammers/criminals ?"
If that is too much of a tall order (to get people scammed on the show) it could simply be a segment about how Betonline is knowingly or unknowingly allowing CM to scam US citizens using the Betonline platform. One could even go to them beforehand and tell them this segment is going to run on a radio show and see if they have a comment on it. Doing that maybe even gets them to take notice by itself. If this is done, i would think it would be important to point out a violation that CM is doing per their TOS here:
https://help.betonline.ag/knowledge-...nd-conditions/ with evidence this is happening.
I think the line that would stick out the most for Betonline would be US citizens being scammed on Betonline and they choose to ignore this. While they can ignore the fact they dont have control over what traffic their affiliate send, they could get rattled if the story is about criminal activity with players they shouldnt even be taking in the first place (Americans).
You may also want to point out that this sites gets offers all the time for affiliates and they are declined because they are shady and the users know this. So allowing criminals /scammers on their platform, and this being known via radio/threads, is going to hurt them getting new affiliates and may make current affiliates question keeping their ads up.
I agree that the more blows the better to youtube and other channels. But i really believe this is the big one.
Also, getting his affiliate account shut down may not be as difficult as it would appear. It is all depends on a few factors.
1. How much continued business he is sending their way currently and the dollar volume of that business
2. How many whales he has right now. For example, if he has someone dropping 100s of thousand of dollars and he is getting a piece of that the casino could seeing shutting down his account (with a valid criminal reason) as free money to them since they would no longer need to pay him.
His begging is really sad (therefore hilarious) in this live vid.
You'll need to join the chums club (shoutout ZD) to learn the super secret dozens straDgedy (heh heh) that would make the casinos change up everything.
I'm pretty sure the test is the same as last time a couple of years ago, when he demanded people pay for a new strategy in order to stay in the group. He said at one point during the livestream that he has a new 2-dozens strategy that is unbeatable, and when somebody asked him if he charges money for it, he replied yes, because "if you're willing to pay money for a strategy, you're willing to do whatever it takes". In other words, it's not really a test. It's just "give me another lump sum of money or you're out". And 5 out of 21 have already dipped (or "failed the test"), leading me to believe that it's a significant amount of money that he's charging for it. They have until 7th of February to come up with the money, otherwise they're out of the group. So at most 16 left next week, hopefully less.
Some of this stuff i don't even think he does for financial reasons.
He just gets off on being the person who is giving the test and being the dictator of who stays and who goes. Remember this guy has been told he isn't good enough/isn't smart enough ect his whole life. Now he finally gets to tell others who are good enough/smart enough. Typical human behavior. Ironic but true. Like kids who are abused and logic would say they will be the least likely to abuse their own kids knowing what it's like---but turns out they are more likely.
He will throw them out and then accept them back once they proclaim their love and loyalty to him.
Just sad all away around.
edit: Probably also what MLM tells you to try to make the club feel small and very exclusive. I suppose idiots will fall under the "well if he kicks people out can't be a scam." then when they pass have this great sense of accomplishment. I actually get the reasoning behind this---if he actually thinks this in-depth. Probably giving him too much credit.
Chrissy is making it very clear he needs cash and things are not ok in the chums club.
A test? LOL. I am 100% certain anyone with $499 monthly gets into the group.
Back to the Kings Ransom donations. $100k in 2022 as well as at least $15k in January. So we are supposed to believe Chrissy who is currently BROKE, donated a total of $115k in about a 12 month period? I DO NOT buy it.
Previously, there were many opinions as to with what Chrissy was doing tax wise and if it could possibly be tax fraud. The King’s Ransom situation changes things a bit - Actually, a lot. If Chrissy is using a fraudulently issued Charity receipt to use as a deduction on his taxes, this is something that will be taken seriously by the IRS - both for Chrissy as well as the charity.
Let’s say you claim you gave $10,000 to a charity in a calendar year. Your taxable income was reduced by 10k. You then get audited and you do NOT have the receipt that proves you gave 10k. Are you going to jail? No. You will have to pay the tax you would have otherwise paid PLUS a decent FINE.
Now, Let’s say you have a receipt for a $100,000 donation. Your taxable income is reduced by $100k. You get audited, the IRS finds out that the charity issued you a receipt for $100,000 in exchange for $2,500 cash. This is TAX FRAUD Folks. This is not something they will look the other way on. The Charity will likely get into even more trouble.
I know some people will tell me “I told you so”, but I should have waited on posting the emails last week for Kings Ransom. I say this because there were more questions thought of since then that they would have most likely answered if I didn’t make it public that the person emailing them was not Chrissy Bottoms.
The benefit is OUR Entertainment. There is a risk reward factor. Reward is our benefit, the risk is everything else.
I think it’s possible either Chrissy saw this and told Kings Ransom or the Mumbler tried messaging them.
The first question is in the first email below. I really think they would have answered if I had sent this at the same time as the others. The email below that - well you can see.
Our Entertainment has a cost, but it’s definitely worth it!
No response.
We need to find a way to prove these charity donations did not happen.
I got through 2 min of that live stream.
Two thoughts.
Lol at him showing every $100 bill to prove he has 2k or whatever it was to his name. Good job guys. Like the old days when he had to respond to every hater in his videos.
and, the second point and most exciting---looks like he is trying to grow out the hair again. OMG, please keep doing this. I have never seen a more hilarious hairline than his...
New FB post claims Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy 3-5 times a week.
I'd bet the detectives here could track down the location in Chicago...
Seems someone has gotten into his head for things he needs to do to be immortal.
He is very easily influenced and manipulated. I scanned through to his purple drink also...
Could also be a reason he is growing out the hair. This stuff is going to also return his hairline.
The date on that machine photo says 01/02/23, so I first thought this was a photo from back in January when he was still in Dallas, but the date also says "Wed", so it's probably today, Feb 1, just using the non-American date nomenclature.
If CM was in Dallas where he was buddies with road rage police officer Travis Ala, I would have assumed that this was at iCryo, Travis Ala's business.
However, there are no iCryo franchises in Illinois, so I'll have to dig a little more.
But the time on the machine says 15:19:26, so he's definitely in the Central Time Zone based on when he made the post.
Could be this place.
https://hbotchicago.com/
“We know how frustrating jumping through hoops to get an HBOT appointment can be. This is why we’ve made it easier than ever for our patients to get a hold of us. When you call our Chicago HBOT office, you’ll get one of our staff or doctors on the phone immediately. We’re now also offering our patients a variety of treatment options to make oxygen therapy as easy as possible; from in office to at home solutions, you’ll have plenty of options. Oxygen therapy is a safe, holistic approach to healing that has helped thousand of patients across all walks of life. If you have any questions, concerns or would simply like to learn more about HBOT, you can call our Chicago office at (312) 767-3500 or our Spring Grove location at (815) 675-0675. We look forward to speaking with you soon“
Someone could call and say “they” think they left something like their wallet there.
Then again, our broke little friend is more likely to be using Groupon.
This place is south of Chicago.
Ok so I just finished dumping 75 GB of CM (320 vids) into the Telegram Group Channel: https://t.me/+XnmDg1gZlaIyN2Fk
Now let´s focus on getting this scam-artist after 3 years gone from Youtube.
Nothing definitive, but I found a Sports Therapy Spa (which has Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy), a Dairy Queen (on the same street as the Sports Therapy Spa) and a Value City Furniture all within 5 minutes of each other in Schaumberg, Illinois.... which is only 20 minutes from O'Hare Airport.
Right you are Boz, we are awfully close to finding it. Can’t be a coincidence that they have the same exact booth design! Might be a dining room in the back or adjacent building. May be another location nearby, but it is certainly within the same region.Quote:
The Boz: Great stuff. The DQ looks different but we are definitely in the general area. Has to be pissing his broke ass off.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha, Busted!!!
Shout out to Ariene!!! Good work Tariq!
Phantom Limb may be right on the money!
Hugo’s menu has all the items Fatboy is showcasing.
Crab Cake, Loaded Wedge Salad with Bacon, tomato & Blue Cheese
Dessert is either Chocolate Mousse or Turtle Pie. Not a dessert person so I’ll let you folks decide which one!
Annnnnnnnnnnd
Whatever cheap fish item the fake millionaire Repo dodger ordered! Lol at him keeping less than 10K in orange chips on the table. Who wants to bet THAT will be his next photo and he miraculously bought in for 5 K and doubles his money in less than 20 minutes???
https://www.riverscasino.com/desplai...os-dinner-menu
Could the latest FB post be from Hugo's Frog Bar in the Rivers casino is Des Plaines?
Here's a shot with similar tiles from the casino's YT ad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rziLhVqc31w