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04-20-2020, 08:39 AM
sonatine

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After 2 months of it being cold and rainy, it is supposed to shoot up to high 80s and sunny here in a couple days, which probably means 90s where I live. Obviously going to follow all sensible guidelines indoors (and stay out of migrant worker "dorms"), but gonna be nice to relax a little outdoors, as it seems in sunlight and high heat really make disease transmittance negligible.

worth noting that india and thailand dont have a lot of air conditioning in the wild.

how many american markets, movie theaters, mass transit systems seriously get above 74 degrees like ever?
04-20-2020, 09:04 AM
Salty_Aus

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We did 10,000 by then. OK let's not argue. 50,000?

Even though we hadn’t done many tests by then, people with even mild symptoms were told to self quarantine for 2 weeks so we were basically treating everyone like they were positive anyway. I see testing as more important on the back end than the front. It’s required to open the country back up.

Thousands walked in. Would have been nice to nab a few thousand by March 4?

Your screening process was laughable. You even filled airports with people while waiting 4 hours plus to be screened.... in the end most just walked straight past.

50,000 tests on the front end might have saved more then you think, and it would not have spread so fast.
Isn't it plausible you could have traced a high percentage that came through too?
100% you should have had lots of tests by early Feb. The Chinese warned you properly end of January, gave you enough data to make a test immediately. You wasted a month here, I think it was a valuable month to lose.
04-20-2020, 09:32 AM
sonatine

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04-20-2020, 09:57 AM
SPIT this

White people are wild

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04-20-2020, 10:02 AM
Forum Wars

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I'm talking about what he's doing now.

And he did call it a hoax. His followers are all calling it a hoax too. Or "hype." Taking their cues from him and from the right wing hate machine.

The worst disgrace yet in a long line of disgraces.

Yes, some of his followers did call it a hoax, but he didn't. He said the "Democrat hoax", referring to the attack on his response to it. If you look at the context of everything else he was saying before and after that, it's clear he wasn't calling the coronavirus a hoax. In fact, he said that AFTER he put on the China travel restrictions, which wouldn't make sense if he thought it was a hoax.

Just to set the record straight. This isn't quite the same as calling the coronavirus a hoax now.
04-20-2020, 11:03 AM
OSA

I went outside today, and holyshit, there are tons of people out there. It looks like a normal day. SO FUCKING WEIRD.

Everyone has a mask, like everyone. 100 people i passed by and they all had one. Except for me though.
04-20-2020, 11:11 AM
duped_samaritan

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Originally Posted by Forum Wars

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Yes, some of his followers did call it a hoax, but he didn't. He said the "Democrat hoax", referring to the attack on his response to it. If you look at the context of everything else he was saying before and after that, it's clear he wasn't calling the coronavirus a hoax. In fact, he said that AFTER he put on the China travel restrictions, which wouldn't make sense if he thought it was a hoax.

Just to set the record straight. This isn't quite the same as calling the coronavirus a hoax now.

If you believe the Russia investigation and Impeachment were hoaxes, why wouldn't you interpret this as the virus being a hoax?

Why do you think he said in Feb there were only 16 cases (when there was actually 50 or 60) and that number would go down to 2 and then zero very soon? (This was 30 days before we passed the 100k mark).

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In fact, he said that AFTER he put on the China travel restrictions, which wouldn't make sense if he thought it was a hoax.

1- Delta American and United had all stopped travel to China.
2- He really likes bans.
3- All of his advisors recommended the ban.
04-20-2020, 11:29 AM
nightmarefish

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Originally Posted by Salty_Aus

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Originally Posted by nightmarefish

Even though we hadn’t done many tests by then, people with even mild symptoms were told to self quarantine for 2 weeks so we were basically treating everyone like they were positive anyway. I see testing as more important on the back end than the front. It’s required to open the country back up.

Thousands walked in. Would have been nice to nab a few thousand by March 4?

Your screening process was laughable. You even filled airports with people while waiting 4 hours plus to be screened.... in the end most just walked straight past.

50,000 tests on the front end might have saved more then you think, and it would not have spread so fast.
Isn't it plausible you could have traced a high percentage that came through too?
100% you should have had lots of tests by early Feb. The Chinese warned you properly end of January, gave you enough data to make a test immediately. You wasted a month here, I think it was a valuable month to lose.

There were reports that the CDC had an initial fuck up due to contamination that delayed testing. Still not sure how many extra deaths this resulted in. I told you anyone with minor symptoms was quarantining anyway and told to act as if they had tested positive. There's no cure and basically no treatment so it's not like if you knew you were positive you could go to a hospital and they would save you.

It's easy to look back and say we should have done this or that but almost no one was truly scared of this in January (Atine excluded). Hell I still went to a concert in late February and was playing pickup basketball in early-mid March. Even Dr. Fauci wasn't concerned in January. Pelosi was parading around with a crowd in San Francisco in late February saying everything is perfectly safe and to come join her.

Let's look at the hypothetical situation that everything was done absolutely perfectly say in January and almost no one died. What do you think would have happen in this scenario? There would have been people all over the country saying it was a hoax and pressuring to open the country back up. So we would be currently open and the spread would probably hit us even harder because closing the country down again after everyone is convinced it's a hoax would be even more difficult.

I just don't think there was a good solution here given the number of people that are asymptomatic, there's no vaccine and the USA culture in general. Throw any other administration in there and you wouldn't have a lower body count.
04-20-2020, 11:38 AM
JimmyG_415

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This is another stupid argument, that will only work on people that were voting for him anyway.
Parsing words at best, & they know it. Bottom line Fox "news" viewers took it less seriously.

and lol at the #FireFauci movement.
If Trump ONLY had 40% approval, (more like 45),
that would mean 4 out of every 5 Trump fans couldn't hit the 'Fauci is more of a liar than Trump' button.
Proof that Tgull is truly on the fringe, the 8%.

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/wa...m_npd_ms_tw_ma

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Yes, some of his followers did call it a hoax, but he didn't. He said the "Democrat hoax", referring to the attack on his response to it. If you look at the context of everything else he was saying before and after that, it's clear he wasn't calling the coronavirus a hoax. In fact, he said that AFTER he put on the China travel restrictions, which wouldn't make sense if he thought it was a hoax.

Just to set the record straight. This isn't quite the same as calling the coronavirus a hoax now.
04-20-2020, 01:55 PM
TheXFactor

Finally some good news...

WHO head warns worst of virus is still ahead

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...l-ahead-196214

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRFbwjwQ4VE
04-20-2020, 02:01 PM
tgull

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Originally Posted by JimmyG_415

This is another stupid argument, that will only work on people that were voting for him anyway.
Parsing words at best, & they know it. Bottom line Fox "news" viewers took it less seriously.

and lol at the #FireFauci movement.
If Trump ONLY had 40% approval, (more like 45),
that would mean 4 out of every 5 Trump fans couldn't hit the 'Fauci is more of a liar than Trump' button.
Proof that Tgull is truly on the fringe, the 8%.

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/wa...m_npd_ms_tw_ma

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Originally Posted by Forum Wars

Just to set the record straight. This isn't quite the same as calling the coronavirus a hoax now.

Dork,

Trump is still up in the betting markets. Nobody cares about over-sampled sizes from Blue states. It's just about over for Uncle Joe. He really has no chance.
04-20-2020, 02:07 PM
Walter Sobchak

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White people are wild

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Love this. Stand up to these idiots.

The second video is spot on. If it were black people protesting there would be hell to pay. Bunch of rednecks no problem.
04-20-2020, 02:08 PM
Walter Sobchak

Heads up Druff, when people embed tweets the quote formatting gets messed up and the reply appears inside the original.
04-20-2020, 02:12 PM
tgull

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

Heads up Druff, when people embed tweets the quote formatting gets messed up and the reply appears inside the original.

Heads up Druff, when the same fucking toolbag obsesses about Trump time and again it's time to give the poster a nap.
04-20-2020, 02:55 PM
blake

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

Heads up Druff, when people embed tweets the quote formatting gets messed up and the reply appears inside the original.

Heads up Druff, when the same fucking toolbag obsesses about Trump time and again it's time to give the poster a nap.

Are you going to give me my $300 back for that awful Roy Moore pick or are you just going to be an absolute plumber about this
04-20-2020, 03:26 PM
Walter Sobchak

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

Heads up Druff, when people embed tweets the quote formatting gets messed up and the reply appears inside the original.

Heads up Druff, when the same fucking toolbag obsesses about Much Ficon time and again it's time to give the poster a nap.

fyp
04-20-2020, 03:27 PM
Walter Sobchak

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Originally Posted by tgull

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Originally Posted by JimmyG_415

This is another stupid argument, that will only work on people that were voting for him anyway.
Parsing words at best, & they know it. Bottom line Fox "news" viewers took it less seriously.

and lol at the #FireFauci movement.
If Trump ONLY had 40% approval, (more like 45),
that would mean 4 out of every 5 Trump fans couldn't hit the 'Fauci is more of a liar than Trump' button.
Proof that Tgull is truly on the fringe, the 8%.

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/wa...m_npd_ms_tw_ma

Dork,

Trump is still up in the betting markets. Nobody cares about over-sampled sizes from Blue states. It's just about over for Uncle Joe. He really has no chance.

Remind yourself of that when you have lunch with President Romney, Senator Moore and #1 overall pick Johnny Manziel.
04-20-2020, 04:09 PM
MumblesBadly

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Uh, oh. My company told us over the satellite messaging system that some of our drivers have tested positive for the coronavirus. Perhaps I should step up my face-covering game. The selection at trucks stops, however, is rather limited.
04-20-2020, 04:32 PM
Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by duped_samaritan

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Originally Posted by Forum Wars

Just to set the record straight. This isn't quite the same as calling the coronavirus a hoax now.

If you believe the Russia investigation and Impeachment were hoaxes, why wouldn't you interpret this as the virus being a hoax?

Why do you think he said in Feb there were only 16 cases (when there was actually 50 or 60) and that number would go down to 2 and then zero very soon? (This was 30 days before we passed the 100k mark).

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

In fact, he said that AFTER he put on the China travel restrictions, which wouldn't make sense if he thought it was a hoax.

1- Delta American and United had all stopped travel to China.
2- He really likes bans.
3- All of his advisors recommended the ban.

"He really likes bans"? What?

Trump likes to use the term "hoax" to mean "something the Democrats are doing to me which is unfair and dishonest".

The Russia investigation wasn't a "hoax". It was overblown and much ado about nothing, but not a hoax.

The impeachment wasn't a hoax. It wasn't justified and they exaggerated the seriousness of the charges, but it wasn't a hoax.

Jussie Smollett's attack was a hoax. The Russian investigation and impeachment were not. Trump just likes using that word because it makes the Democrats look more dishonest.

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Originally Posted by duped_samaritan

Why do you think he said in Feb there were only 16 cases (when there was actually 50 or 60) and that number would go down to 2 and then zero very soon? (This was 30 days before we passed the 100k mark).

Actually even this question proves my point. If Trump thought the virus was truly a hoax, he would say that there were zero real cases, and that this wasn't real. Clearly he didn't think it was a hoax, but rather that it was a real thing which would resolve quickly on its own (which obviously was incorrect).
04-20-2020, 04:43 PM
Sloppy Joe

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by duped_samaritan

If you believe the Russia investigation and Impeachment were hoaxes, why wouldn't you interpret this as the virus being a hoax?

Why do you think he said in Feb there were only 16 cases (when there was actually 50 or 60) and that number would go down to 2 and then zero very soon? (This was 30 days before we passed the 100k mark).

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

In fact, he said that AFTER he put on the China travel restrictions, which wouldn't make sense if he thought it was a hoax.

1- Delta American and United had all stopped travel to China.
2- He really likes bans.
3- All of his advisors recommended the ban.

"He really likes bans"? What?

Trump likes to use the term "hoax" to mean "something the Democrats are doing to me which is unfair and dishonest".

The Russia investigation wasn't a "hoax". It was overblown and much ado about nothing, but not a hoax.

The impeachment wasn't a hoax. It wasn't justified and they exaggerated the seriousness of the charges, but it wasn't a hoax.

Jussie Smollett's attack was a hoax. The Russian investigation and impeachment were not. Trump just likes using that word because it makes the Democrats look more dishonest.

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Originally Posted by duped_samaritan

Why do you think he said in Feb there were only 16 cases (when there was actually 50 or 60) and that number would go down to 2 and then zero very soon? (This was 30 days before we passed the 100k mark).

Actually even this question proves my point. If Trump thought the virus was truly a hoax, he would say that there were zero real cases, and that this wasn't real. Clearly he didn't think it was a hoax, but rather that it was a real thing which would resolve quickly on its own (which obviously was incorrect).

Couldn't be more clear, libtards.

Another insane, indefensible press conference today where Trump demonstrated his lack of fitness, pathological narcissism and inability to speak coherently.