Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

AOC once again exposes the corruption of establishment politicians of *both* major parties, this time regarding healthcare.

Ocasio-Cortez Makes Connection Between 20% Jump in Healthcare Costs and Industry-Sponsored Spa Days for Congressional Staffers
"This is the healthcare system of 'choice' that so many politicians are committed to protecting."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...s-and-industry

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After end-of-the-year reports showed healthcare costs for Americans rose an average of 20% in 2019, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter highlighted evidence of the cozy relationship between the for-profit health insurance industry and U.S. lawmakers.

The New York Democrat noted a retreat at a luxury resort in Virginia taken last April by more than 40 senior congressional staffers where they rubbed elbows with and listened to talks given by health insurance lobbyists.

"One of the sneaky and most corrupting aspects of lobbying is to court a member's staff," Ocasio-Cortez tweeted.

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Ah, AOC pretending to be an intellectual again. How cute.

Guess what, AOC? You're 100% correct that healthcare rates are based upon a corrupt system which is vulnerable to lobbying.

I've been saying that myself. However, Medicare For All is not the solution -- it will just make the problem even worse. That's because the lobbying is often aimed at the Medicare rates, which drive the negotiated rates later set between insurance companies and healthcare providers. So if it's a Medicare For All system, there will be even more lobbying, more corruption, and more wasted money.

Sad!

The real solution is to tear down the entire pricing model of the healthcare industry and start over, including introducing real competition for pricing. (Right now it is NOT a free market system!)

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Ah, AOC pretending to be an intellectual again. How cute.

Guess what, AOC? You're 100% correct that healthcare rates are based upon a corrupt system which is vulnerable to lobbying.

I've been saying that myself. However, Medicare For All is not the solution -- it will just make the problem even worse. That's because the lobbying is often aimed at the Medicare rates, which drive the negotiated rates later set between insurance companies and healthcare providers. So if it's a Medicare For All system, there will be even more lobbying, more corruption, and more wasted money.

Sad!

The real solution is to tear down the entire pricing model of the healthcare industry and start over, including introducing real competition for pricing. (Right now it is NOT a free market system!)

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Guess what, Druff. This recent news story completely blows your “Medicare corruption is the key problem with health insurance costs” narrative completely out of the water. Why? Because if the patient in this story had been on Medicare, the medical lab that the doctor steered lab work to would not have been able to charge 20 times the average of such services in that zipcode.

For Her Head Cold, Insurer Coughed Up $25,865
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...ghed-up-25-865

Instead, the patient went to the doctor for a headache and sore throat had private health insurance, and the insurance company didn’t even bat an eyelid before issuing a massive check to reimburse the patient for the doctor-submitted bill for such services.

But here’s the real kicker to the story: The doctor this patient saw owed the lab he sent the test work to. So, in effective, the doctor perpetrated a kind of under-the-radar insurance fraud that the private insurance companies don’t bother to investigate because they can turn around and pass the cost onto the policyholders in the form of inflated insurance premiums.

She simply owns the right wing,
Next time you want to call the left snowflakes, pause for second, and go down this twitter thread first,
then you will see some real 1st class cry babies losing it.

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She simply owns the right wing,
Next time you want to call the left snowflakes, pause for second, and go down this twitter thread first,
then you will see some real 1st class cry babies losing it.

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chick is some dumb whore from the bar and anybody who cant see it is a troll account

Bernie starting to get irritated with AOC, who has been pushing open borders -- a position which will make Bernie unelectable, especially in the general election.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-campaign-iowa

Sorry, Bernie. You get into bed with an idealogue moron with insane ideas (even more insane than yours), this is what you get.

the good news is is that aoc has eliminated boston u as a college choice.

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Bernie starting to get irritated with AOC, who has been pushing open borders -- a position which will make Bernie unelectable, especially in the general election.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-campaign-iowa

Sorry, Bernie. You get into bed with an idealogue moron with insane ideas (even more insane than yours), this is what you get.

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i read the article and I’m pretty sure Bernie is on record supporting literally everything she said at the rally.

the breaking up ICE and free healthcare for illegal immigrants thing has me thinking this guy might not even want to be president.

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Bernie starting to get irritated with AOC, who has been pushing open borders -- a position which will make Bernie unelectable, especially in the general election.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-campaign-iowa

Sorry, Bernie. You get into bed with an idealogue moron with insane ideas (even more insane than yours), this is what you get.

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i read the article and I’m pretty sure Bernie is on record supporting literally everything she said at the rally.

the breaking up ICE and free healthcare for illegal immigrants thing has me thinking this guy might not even want to be president.

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oh,...he wants to win alright. peeps overlook this stuff in lieu of other free shit. i hope he gets the nomination. he gonna get carved up by trump while i eat by extra butter popcorn

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the good news is is that aoc has eliminated boston u as a college choice.

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Mulva in a nutshell ^^^

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the good news is is that aoc has eliminated boston u as a college choice.

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Mulva in a nutshell ^^^

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that's it..HU for rollz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94L6wkczNZQ

This is a great idea by AOC.

When unemployment is at 30%, refuse to go back to work, and let someone else take that job. That'll show 'em!

Is anybody home upstairs in that head?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94L6wkczNZQ

This is a great idea by AOC.

When unemployment is at 30%, refuse to go back to work, and let someone else take that job. That'll show 'em!

Is anybody home upstairs in that head?

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Why is it the people who have no money actually agree with AOC? For instance, take Muck Ficon as an example. Not a doubt in my mind he is enjoying this time off and getting his government check and porking his fat wife in the butt every day.

It really does suck we have so many lazy people in this country. We really should have compulsory military service in this county like Israel. Age 18-25 everyone serves.

Like her or not 1 thing I think we can all agree on is that she is a nice piece of ass

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94L6wkczNZQ

This is a great idea by AOC.

When unemployment is at 30%, refuse to go back to work, and let someone else take that job. That'll show 'em!

Is anybody home upstairs in that head?

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When is she gonna drop the whole everyone works 70 hours a week to put food of the table bit? Jesus Christ

have you not heard the term working poor? The corporations have been crushing unions for years which has led to lower wages.


The rich are def getting richer and the poor def getting more poor as each day goes by

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have you not heard the term working poor? The corporations have been crushing unions for years which has led to lower wages.


The rich are def getting richer and the poor def getting more poor as each day goes by

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Do you know one person that has to work 70 hours a week to live? One?

nope


did i say anything about 70 hours a week?

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nope


did i say anything about 70 hours a week?

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You are likely a long time loser on on-line gambling. The odds always tilt against the bettor over time. They just do.

But where is your fucking pride? A stay at home Dad? How the fuck do you look in the mirror every day?

I think you are a fag.

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AOC owes $2088 in back taxes for a failed 2012 business, and won't pay. Claims it's "in error". A tax warrant has been issued in New York.

She loves raising people's taxes, but doesn't like paying her own, apparently.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/17/aoc-ow...iness-venture/

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AOC owes $2088 in back taxes for a failed 2012 business, and won't pay. Claims it's "in error". A tax warrant has been issued in New York.

She loves raising people's taxes, but doesn't like paying her own, apparently.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/17/aoc-ow...iness-venture/

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Or maybe it was an error.

I miss the old druff.

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AOC owes $2088 in back taxes for a failed 2012 business, and won't pay. Claims it's "in error". A tax warrant has been issued in New York.

She loves raising people's taxes, but doesn't like paying her own, apparently.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/17/aoc-ow...iness-venture/

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And this fool was invited to the white house something like 39 times for meetings, dinners, and parties with Obama all while owing the government hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions. Makes perfect sense, right?





https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/al-sharpton-taxes/

What a disaster Tulsa was for the failed dictator.
Brad Parscale tweeted 'over a million, what a data haul', LOL.
A data haul of teenagers that hate Trump and So Koreans.

AOC's prelim is Tuesday I'll take her vs the field and Lay 2.50 ML.
DM me, This place is unreadable.
PFA = Poker's Fox "news" Assembly.

Anyway, she said the neighborhood is flooded w/fliers for her Wall St backed opponent.

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aoc colluded with a foreign music genre to influence the election!!!! SOCIALIST!!!!!111

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AOC owes $2088 in back taxes for a failed 2012 business, and won't pay. Claims it's "in error". A tax warrant has been issued in New York.

She loves raising people's taxes, but doesn't like paying her own, apparently.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/17/aoc-ow...iness-venture/

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I would guess it is an error for that small amount.

Ohio thinks i have owed them $6k for literally 13 years now. I’ve taken care of the problem multiple times, yet it emerges again and again. I got a six figure check issued to me right when I had moved back to Ohio. It was for work done living in PA, I still lived there when I got it. Pa took the taxes out as I lived and worked there for the previous seven years. I was just moving home right at that moment and setting up an Ohio bank account so I cashed it in Ohio.

I dealt with it then, and they just required a copy of paycheck showing PA took it out. Matter resolved at the time. Three or four years since that time they’ve snagged an Ohio refund from state. I usually owe state, but every time they’ve owed me, they grab it again and I go through the whole process once again.

Every time I’m assured it’s resolved and then a few years later it pops up again. It’s getting increasingly annoying to look for 2006 tax returns and contact PA to prove I paid it the longer time passes. State tax agencies are a mess. I don’t think she’d take the heat for $2k if it wasn’t an error.

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AOC owes $2088 in back taxes for a failed 2012 business, and won't pay. Claims it's "in error". A tax warrant has been issued in New York.

She loves raising people's taxes, but doesn't like paying her own, apparently.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/17/aoc-ow...iness-venture/

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I would guess it is an error for that small amount.

Ohio thinks i have owed them $6k for literally 13 years now. I’ve taken care of the problem multiple times, yet it emerges again and again. I got a six figure check issued to me right when I had moved back to Ohio. It was for work done living in PA, I still lived there when I got it. Pa took the taxes out as I lived and worked there for the previous seven years. I was just moving home right at that moment and setting up an Ohio bank account so I cashed it in Ohio.

I dealt with it then, and they just required a copy of paycheck showing PA took it out. Matter resolved at the time. Three or four years since that time they’ve snagged an Ohio refund from state. I usually owe state, but every time they’ve owed me, they grab it again and I go through the whole process once again.

Every time I’m assured it’s resolved and then a few years later it pops up again. It’s getting increasingly annoying to look for 2006 tax returns and contact PA to prove I paid it the longer time passes. State tax agencies are a mess. I don’t think she’d take the heat for $2k if it wasn’t an error.

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I doubt Druff gives a shit that there's an entirely rational explanation for her $2088 tax debt. He disagrees with her politically so "She wants to raise peoples taxes but doesn't like to pay her own" - case closed.

Meanwhile....https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...red-trump.html

duped_by_smollett shilling for the AOC, who shilled for smollett's lynching at midnight when everybody was already starting to turn on his story, GREAT JOB

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Originally Posted by JimmyG_415

What a disaster Tulsa was for the failed dictator.
Brad Parscale tweeted 'over a million, what a data haul', LOL.
A data haul of teenagers that hate Trump and So Koreans.

AOC's prelim is Tuesday I'll take her vs the field and Lay 2.50 ML.
DM me, This place is unreadable.
PFA = Poker's Fox "news" Assembly.

Anyway, she said the neighborhood is flooded w/fliers for her Wall St backed opponent.

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If the Trump Campaign was smart, they would cancel all the signups from the last two weeks.

However they are not smart. These Tik-Tok tweenies can use the same email/phone Trump contributor accounts to signup for every Trump rally.

If you would like to join in this campaign to embarrass, humiliate and remove Trump from office.

Use a Google Voice number or an alternate phone number than can receive text messages and create another email account. Register with the Trump campaign using a real or made up name. They will spam you like crazy. Just ask Druff, he probably got over two dozen messages to donate money in the past week.

https://www.fanbridge.com/blog/wp-co...ome_emails.jpg

just another win for biden, aoc and til toc....so cool. they really showed trump and the republicans.

just think if the right did this tothe left,...lmao....

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I would guess it is an error for that small amount.

Ohio thinks i have owed them $6k for literally 13 years now. I’ve taken care of the problem multiple times, yet it emerges again and again. I got a six figure check issued to me right when I had moved back to Ohio. It was for work done living in PA, I still lived there when I got it. Pa took the taxes out as I lived and worked there for the previous seven years. I was just moving home right at that moment and setting up an Ohio bank account so I cashed it in Ohio.

I dealt with it then, and they just required a copy of paycheck showing PA took it out. Matter resolved at the time. Three or four years since that time they’ve snagged an Ohio refund from state. I usually owe state, but every time they’ve owed me, they grab it again and I go through the whole process once again.

Every time I’m assured it’s resolved and then a few years later it pops up again. It’s getting increasingly annoying to look for 2006 tax returns and contact PA to prove I paid it the longer time passes. State tax agencies are a mess. I don’t think she’d take the heat for $2k if it wasn’t an error.

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I doubt Druff gives a shit that there's an entirely rational explanation for her $2088 tax debt. He disagrees with her politically so "She wants to raise peoples taxes but doesn't like to pay her own" - case closed.

Meanwhile....https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...red-trump.html

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Since it's about a failed business, I'm guessing it's more likely she took the attitude of, "The business failed, I don't owe taxes for its final year."

AOC has enough pull and enough assistants to where this could easily get handled if it were just a matter of reaching the right people to correct a mistake.

I've occasionally gotten a mistaken tax bill in the mail, but it's never been too difficult to get corrected. Usually it's just one phone call.

I'm not saying it's always that easy, but AOC is mishandling the matter big time if it really is a mistake and she can prove that.

And on a more important note, it's really bad form for a sitting Congresswoman to cheer on the fraudulent sign-ups to ruin a Trump rally.

"You make me so proud," she tweeted.

So what is her position? That it's totally cool to interfere with the other side's rallies, and prevent people who want tickets from being able to get them?

It's one thing for a bunch of mischievous kids to fuck up the Trump rally. It's another for a Congresswoman to openly tweet that she's "proud" of them for doing so, and then attempt to frame it as a white supremacy rally.

Just more evidence to add to the pile that the left has become pro-censorship and anti-first-amendment.

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And on a more important note, it's really bad form for a sitting Congresswoman to cheer on the fraudulent sign-ups to ruin a Trump rally.

"You make me so proud," she tweeted.

So what is her position? That it's totally cool to interfere with the other side's rallies, and prevent people who want tickets from being able to get them?

It's one thing for a bunch of mischievous kids to fuck up the Trump rally. It's another for a Congresswoman to openly tweet that she's "proud" of them for doing so, and then attempt to frame it as a white supremacy rally.

Just more evidence to add to the pile that the left has become pro-censorship and anti-first-amendment.

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It's one thing for a bunch of right wing assholes to create a fake and libelous CNN video trying to incite race hatred and violence and that was intended to deceive and not as a parody. It's another for the President of the United States to endorse it by retweeting it.

It's one thing to worry about how a pandemic will affect your approval rating. It's another to ask that testing be reduced to falsify the numbers for your own personal benefit while people are getting sick and dying.

Druff, I like you but this is really getting hypocritical.

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And on a more important note, it's really bad form for a sitting Congresswoman to cheer on the fraudulent sign-ups to ruin a Trump rally.

"You make me so proud," she tweeted.

So what is her position? That it's totally cool to interfere with the other side's rallies, and prevent people who want tickets from being able to get them?

It's one thing for a bunch of mischievous kids to fuck up the Trump rally. It's another for a Congresswoman to openly tweet that she's "proud" of them for doing so, and then attempt to frame it as a white supremacy rally.

Just more evidence to add to the pile that the left has become pro-censorship and anti-first-amendment.

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It's one thing for a bunch of right wing assholes to create a fake and libelous CNN video trying to incite race hatred and violence and that was intended to deceive and not as a parody. It's another for the President of the United States to endorse it by retweeting it.

It's one thing to worry about how a pandemic will affect your approval rating. It's another to ask that testing be reduced to falsify the numbers for your own personal benefit while people are getting sick and dying.

Druff, I like you but this is really getting hypocritical.

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Why is everything I post answered with "Whatabout Trump"?

Do the Dems have a leg to stand on when they bitch about un-Presidential behavior by Trump, given that they engage in childishness themselves?

Too often we are seeing influential figures on the left applaud when right wing speech is suppressed.

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It's one thing for a bunch of right wing assholes to create a fake and libelous CNN video trying to incite race hatred and violence and that was intended to deceive and not as a parody. It's another for the President of the United States to endorse it by retweeting it.

It's one thing to worry about how a pandemic will affect your approval rating. It's another to ask that testing be reduced to falsify the numbers for your own personal benefit while people are getting sick and dying.

Druff, I like you but this is really getting hypocritical.

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Why is everything I post answered with "Whatabout Trump"?

Do the Dems have a leg to stand on when they bitch about un-Presidential behavior by Trump, given that they engage in childishness themselves?

Too often we are seeing influential figures on the left applaud when right wing speech is suppressed.

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Was Trump's speech suppressed? Pretty sure he gave it to the few people who wanted to show up, and it was on tv too.

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Why is everything I post answered with "Whatabout Trump"?

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And on a more important note, it's really bad form for a sitting Congresswoman to cheer on the fraudulent sign-ups to ruin a Trump rally.

"You make me so proud," she tweeted.

So what is her position? That it's totally cool to interfere with the other side's rallies, and prevent people who want tickets from being able to get them?

It's one thing for a bunch of mischievous kids to fuck up the Trump rally. It's another for a Congresswoman to openly tweet that she's "proud" of them for doing so, and then attempt to frame it as a white supremacy rally.

Just more evidence to add to the pile that the left has become pro-censorship and anti-first-amendment.

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Also, this is neither censorship nor a First Amendment thing.

Even for a Jew you're developing quite a victim complex.

as predicted, republicans alienated from house trump are now running as democrats.

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And on a more important note, it's really bad form for a sitting Congresswoman to cheer on the fraudulent sign-ups to ruin a Trump rally.

"You make me so proud," she tweeted.

So what is her position? That it's totally cool to interfere with the other side's rallies, and prevent people who want tickets from being able to get them?

It's one thing for a bunch of mischievous kids to fuck up the Trump rally. It's another for a Congresswoman to openly tweet that she's "proud" of them for doing so, and then attempt to frame it as a white supremacy rally.

Just more evidence to add to the pile that the left has become pro-censorship and anti-first-amendment.

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How exactly were you going to fit the 1 million people into a place that only holds 20k?

OR even 100k if that was a more legitimate number?


If people had wanted to stand around outside, they still would have turned up, which they didnt.

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It's one thing for a bunch of right wing assholes to create a fake and libelous CNN video trying to incite race hatred and violence and that was intended to deceive and not as a parody. It's another for the President of the United States to endorse it by retweeting it.

It's one thing to worry about how a pandemic will affect your approval rating. It's another to ask that testing be reduced to falsify the numbers for your own personal benefit while people are getting sick and dying.

Druff, I like you but this is really getting hypocritical.

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Why is everything I post answered with "Whatabout Trump"?

Too often we are seeing influential figures on the left applaud when right wing speech is suppressed.

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Because their side is indefensible. Both parties use this playbook.

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Why is everything I post answered with "Whatabout Trump"?

Do the Dems have a leg to stand on when they bitch about un-Presidential behavior by Trump, given that they engage in childishness themselves?

Too often we are seeing influential figures on the left applaud when right wing speech is suppressed.

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Was Trump's speech suppressed? Pretty sure he gave it to the few people who wanted to show up, and it was on tv too.

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AOC was applauding teenagers for taking actions to prevent others from gathering where they wanted to hear Trump speak. You can't just say, "Well, Trump would have spoken in the overflow area afterwards if it had people there." That's not the same, and you know it. People reported trying to get tickets, finding it was sold out for the actual event, and giving up. That's understandable. If I wanted to go to a political rally, I wouldn't bother with the "overflow" area either.

As I said, I'm not mad at the kids who did it. That's the type of shit teenagers do. However, for a sitting Congresswoman to applaud this is classless. If Trump wants to hold a rally, people shouldn't interfere with it and try to prevent people from attending. Congresspeople shouldn't applaud efforts to stop people from being able to attend.

It's all under the banner of suppressing speech. It's the same type of shit as when leftists on college campuses try to prevent Ben Shapiro or other conservatives from speaking there, sometimes resorting to violence and/or rioting to accomplish it.

Some of the left has now found it noble to prevent their opponents from speaking and peacefully assembling, under the guise of "silencing hate speech".

Anyone who cares about civil liberties should be alarmed by this, rather than defending it.