Blatant Gambling Scammer Christopher Mitchell (YouTube/Baccarat/Roulette/Sportsbetting)

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

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Originally Posted by DavidDough

@The Shrink

There actually are multiple ways to beat baccarat with flat betting and using dependent variables (NOT dependent results). Nick, could you tell us one of those methods? Because the way you talk it seems like you’re just a gambler.

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I agree.

The methods that I am aware of to actually beat the game of baccarat have massive variance and require a huge bankroll for minimal profit.

The edge you can gain on the Dragon side bet is a little better but not something most would go after.

There are just so many better options if you have the kind of Bankroll it takes to gain an edge in baccarat. (Both inside and outside the casino)

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Exactly.

There is one advantage play method that has a high edge, but courts recently ruled it to be cheating. Fuck casinos and the courts as well.

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Originally Posted by DavidDough

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

I agree.

The methods that I am aware of to actually beat the game of baccarat have massive variance and require a huge bankroll for minimal profit.

The edge you can gain on the Dragon side bet is a little better but not something most would go after.

There are just so many better options if you have the kind of Bankroll it takes to gain an edge in baccarat. (Both inside and outside the casino)

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Exactly.

There is one advantage play method that has a high edge, but courts recently ruled it to be cheating. Fuck casinos and the courts as well.

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The problem with answering this question is going down the rabbit hole..... I don't play a lot and I don't gamble I know you're not going to understand that because I have an advantage when I play back around by just waiting to make my bet I'll make about 8 to 12 bets in the shoe and more times than not I'll win more than I lose and I don't have to raise my bet it comes down to stop wins for shoe and stop losses per shoe I'm talking into my phone so I don't know if all the words came out right but that's about it I'm trying to convince anybody a little comment I made on a YouTube page that really wasn't on on this forum but here we go

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Originally Posted by nick2199

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Originally Posted by DavidDough

Exactly.

There is one advantage play method that has a high edge, but courts recently ruled it to be cheating. Fuck casinos and the courts as well.

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The problem with answering this question is going down the rabbit hole..... I don't play a lot and I don't gamble I know you're not going to understand that because I have an advantage when I play back around by just waiting to make my bet I'll make about 8 to 12 bets in the shoe and more times than not I'll win more than I lose and I don't have to raise my bet it comes down to stop wins for shoe and stop losses per shoe I'm talking into my phone so I don't know if all the words came out right but that's about it I'm trying to convince anybody a little comment I made on a YouTube page that really wasn't on on this forum but here we go

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nick219921@gmail.com

If you have any actual questions about this and I don't think you do but if you do the shoot me an email this way we won't have to go on with an exchange on the form back and forth on something most people don't agree on

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Originally Posted by nick2199

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Originally Posted by DavidDough

Exactly.

There is one advantage play method that has a high edge, but courts recently ruled it to be cheating. Fuck casinos and the courts as well.

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The problem with answering this question is going down the rabbit hole..... I don't play a lot and I don't gamble I know you're not going to understand that because I have an advantage when I play back around by just waiting to make my bet I'll make about 8 to 12 bets in the shoe and more times than not I'll win more than I lose and I don't have to raise my bet it comes down to stop wins for shoe and stop losses per shoe I'm talking into my phone so I don't know if all the words came out right but that's about it I'm trying to convince anybody a little comment I made on a YouTube page that really wasn't on on this forum but here we go

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You’re a losing gambler homie. Plain and simple lol. I’d be willing to bet that you don’t record your wins and losses in a spreadsheet, which is how you get fooled into thinking you’ve been winning.

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Originally Posted by nick2199

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Originally Posted by DavidDough

Exactly.

There is one advantage play method that has a high edge, but courts recently ruled it to be cheating. Fuck casinos and the courts as well.

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The problem with answering this question is going down the rabbit hole..... I don't play a lot and I don't gamble I know you're not going to understand that because I have an advantage when I play back around by just waiting to make my bet I'll make about 8 to 12 bets in the shoe and more times than not I'll win more than I lose and I don't have to raise my bet it comes down to stop wins for shoe and stop losses per shoe I'm talking into my phone so I don't know if all the words came out right but that's about it I'm trying to convince anybody a little comment I made on a YouTube page that really wasn't on on this forum but here we go

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If a player is truly playing with an advantage at any table game, they should not be using “Stop Wins/Stop Losses”. You want to get down as many bets as you can. The shoe has no memory. At the end of the week, month or year it is all one long session. Stop wins and losses to preserve wins and limit losses is costing you money in the long term, by limiting the amount of action you get down. The cards do not know if you have 5 sessions of 1 hour long, or 1 session of 5 hours long. A good example would be a blackjack card counter that is up a certain amount, and is faced with a situation with a massively high true count, it wouldn't make any scene to not place his max bet since he may have reached a "Stop Win" point. Stop wins and losses have no benefit on long term results, they are only good to help players stomach the ups and downs of the game.

CM's ignorance to an extent actually helps him. If he truly understood advantage play and tried to incorporate that into his scam, people simply would not buy into it. His bullshit statements like he wins "99% of the time", when in reality the best win a tad over 50%. That just wouldn't be sexy to say. "Folks, I win 54% of the time". One of his believers once asked him in his comments, "Do you think you can improve upon your 99% win rate?". I about fell out of my chair when I read that.

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

CM's ignorance to an extent actually helps him. If he truly understood advantage play and tried to incorporate that into his scam, people simply would not buy into it. His bullshit statements like he wins "99% of the time", when in reality the best win a tad over 50%. That just wouldn't be sexy to say. "Folks, I win 54% of the time". One of his believers once asked him in his comments, "Do you think you can improve upon your 99% win rate?". I about fell out of my chair when I read that.

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Morgenstern tried that route.

He's now suing his 2nd home, the Bellagio

On a seperate topic, my first video sharing my sports bets pics nailed a 56 bet parlay for any viewer who wanted to piggy back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY0XmCda2os

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

One of his believers once asked him in his comments, "Do you think you can improve upon your 99% win rate?". I about fell out of my chair when I read that.

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That was me trolling

Breaking News....

I just spoke with “Pick 3 World” for over an hour. He is not Demetrius. His real name is Juaquin and I won’t reveal any personal details but he seems like a good dude. He has never met CM and doesn’t live in Atlanta, GA. He also never met Demetrius but Demetrius was part of his lotto group a few years back. Joaquin has a real job and the Lotto page is for supplemental income.

Juaquin did the super chat donations to try and get a bump to his website. In retrospect, this makes perfect sense. He says that he wasn’t getting any bump whatsoever when he looked at the analytics. He realizes now that CM subs and likes are artificially inflated. He may have had the lotto page up for a while but he doesn’t know much about casino style gambling.

He said that CM was entertainment for him. He enjoyed the videos. Like I said before, the donations were part of a marketing effort for him that really didn’t work out. He said that CM lost him when he did his video about the $1K Skype calls. He thinks that video turned a lot of his real believers off. He then looked even deeper.

He didn’t know CM used to sell 3 page pdf.’s for $500 bucks a piece that just said to basically martingale. He also didn’t know much about betting systems and has been educated by watching videos and reading the forum. On the phone he actually spent a good amount of time asking me questions about gambling. He was genuinely interested.

Anyways, he then started to watch some testimonials and knew they were fake. He said this was clearly “deceptive marketing”. He thinks that CM probably knew Gary, and just like us would love to know all the details of that night with Lucy.

He is glad that through the “Pick 3 World” name it helped Wars find Demetrius and then link him to CM with the real estate venture that he describes as a “pure scam”. He also agrees that the “Change Your Life Vlog” merch is about the ugliest he has ever seen. I told him I would actually sport a “Pick 3 World” shirt in Vegas when I get back out there because it would be funny as shit.

He said he will never donate a cent to CM again and that he is now officially a critic of his. Any new information I will share as I get it.

Another fan boy finally flew the coop

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Originally Posted by JeffDime

Breaking News....

I just spoke with “Pick 3 World” for over an hour. He is not Demetrius. His real name is Juaquin and I won’t reveal any personal details but he seems like a good dude. He has never met CM and doesn’t live in Atlanta, GA. He also never met Demetrius but Demetrius was part of his lotto group a few years back. Joaquin has a real job and the Lotto page is for supplemental income.

Juaquin did the super chat donations to try and get a bump to his website. In retrospect, this makes perfect sense. He says that he wasn’t getting any bump whatsoever when he looked at the analytics. He realizes now that CM subs and likes are artificially inflated. He may have had the lotto page up for a while but he doesn’t know much about casino style gambling.

He said that CM was entertainment for him. He enjoyed the videos. Like I said before, the donations were part of a marketing effort for him that really didn’t work out. He said that CM lost him when he did his video about the $1K Skype calls. He thinks that video turned a lot of his real believers off. He then looked even deeper.

He didn’t know CM used to sell 3 page pdf.’s for $500 bucks a piece that just said to basically martingale. He also didn’t know much about betting systems and has been educated by watching videos and reading the forum. On the phone he actually spent a good amount of time asking me questions about gambling. He was genuinely interested.

Anyways, he then started to watch some testimonials and knew they were fake. He said this was clearly “deceptive marketing”. He thinks that CM probably knew Gary, and just like us would love to know all the details of that night with Lucy.

He is glad that through the “Pick 3 World” name it helped Wars find Demetrius and then link him to CM with the real estate venture that he describes as a “pure scam”. He also agrees that the “Change Your Life Vlog” merch is about the ugliest he has ever seen. I told him I would actually sport a “Pick 3 World” shirt in Vegas when I get back out there because it would be funny as shit.

He said he will never donate a cent to CM again and that he is now officially a critic of his. Any new information I will share as I get it.

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It was mostly 750 because cm would like exclude buyers out of the FB group if they didn't by the combo baccarat and blackjack

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Originally Posted by Dustin Mc

He's now suing his 2nd home, the Bellagio

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It wouldn't be that much of a stretch for a conman coward like Mitchell. He's probably going to go casino hopping and have a slip n' fall accident to try & sue them!

Matter of fact, here's a sneak preview of his next Youtube video!

so you have to say pick 3 world is one of cm most popular person in his live chats and making comments....so if he should ask any of the polite remarks of questioning cm that cm will then block that person....when he blocks someone not that well known it goes unnoticed ....so in this case if cm blocks pick 3.....it would be noticed and should cause some of his fanbase to drift away

Hi to our many guests! Especially you Chrissy....

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Originally Posted by JeffDime

Breaking News....

I just spoke with “Pick 3 World” for over an hour. He is not Demetrius. His real name is Juaquin and I won’t reveal any personal details but he seems like a good dude. He has never met CM and doesn’t live in Atlanta, GA. He also never met Demetrius but Demetrius was part of his lotto group a few years back. Joaquin has a real job and the Lotto page is for supplemental income.

Juaquin did the super chat donations to try and get a bump to his website. In retrospect, this makes perfect sense. He says that he wasn’t getting any bump whatsoever when he looked at the analytics. He realizes now that CM subs and likes are artificially inflated. He may have had the lotto page up for a while but he doesn’t know much about casino style gambling.

He said that CM was entertainment for him. He enjoyed the videos. Like I said before, the donations were part of a marketing effort for him that really didn’t work out. He said that CM lost him when he did his video about the $1K Skype calls. He thinks that video turned a lot of his real believers off. He then looked even deeper.

He didn’t know CM used to sell 3 page pdf.’s for $500 bucks a piece that just said to basically martingale. He also didn’t know much about betting systems and has been educated by watching videos and reading the forum. On the phone he actually spent a good amount of time asking me questions about gambling. He was genuinely interested.

Anyways, he then started to watch some testimonials and knew they were fake. He said this was clearly “deceptive marketing”. He thinks that CM probably knew Gary, and just like us would love to know all the details of that night with Lucy.

He is glad that through the “Pick 3 World” name it helped Wars find Demetrius and then link him to CM with the real estate venture that he describes as a “pure scam”. He also agrees that the “Change Your Life Vlog” merch is about the ugliest he has ever seen. I told him I would actually sport a “Pick 3 World” shirt in Vegas when I get back out there because it would be funny as shit.

He said he will never donate a cent to CM again and that he is now officially a critic of his. Any new information I will share as I get it.

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Great job and I hope what Pick 3 World is saying is true, Jeff, but I just got two questions poppin' in my mind before I go out and and get my very own Pick 3 World t-shirt:

1.) How does P3W explain the "We're about to go live"/"Oooops, I mean Christopher is about to go live" debacle that Kevin Davis and Reno caught on that one giveaway video?
2.) If he is, or as he now says was a fan, did Christopher actually send him the $100 he "won" and can he prove it.

I'm not 100% sure, but if you add up the donations by P3W, they sound like they could reach around $100.

Thickening plot here, FOLKS!

So back on Jan 28 at Hard Rock in Florida...I hope she's fully learned her lesson...

Go to 4:28 in the video:

https://youtu.be/KW1JfeLP2Ro



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Well, it wasn't an ENTIRELY offline day for me...what's the concensus, is William a real client??? William, please chime in.

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Originally Posted by Forum Wars

Great job and I hope what Pick 3 World is saying is true, Jeff, but I just got two questions poppin' in my mind before I go out and and get my very own Pick 3 World t-shirt:

1.) How does P3W explain the "We're about to go live"/"Oooops, I mean Christopher is about to go live" debacle that Kevin Davis and Reno caught on that one giveaway video?
2.) If he is, or as he now says was a fan, did Christopher actually send him the $100 he "won" and can he prove it.

I'm not 100% sure, but if you add up the donations by P3W, they sound like they could reach around $100.

Thickening plot here, FOLKS!

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Wars, great questions and I will call him tomorrow to get the concrete answers.

1. I do think he was trolling the “haters” by that time because we all figured he was Stacy.

2. I know Red Pill won the $200 giveaway, which we still have no reason to believe is not a burner. Need to go back and check. If he did win one that definitely needs to be asked but I think it may of just been Red Pill.

I’ll let you know on the morrow.

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Originally Posted by Forum Wars

Well, it wasn't an ENTIRELY offline day for me...what's the concensus, is William a real client??? William, please chime in.

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Assist to PV who mentioned at 2:43 Chrissy calls William “Craig” for some reason. That plot is thick af.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJbVOQM0f7g&t=196s

BREAKING NEWS!!! Key Supporter flips on YOUTUBE BACCARAT SCAMMER CHRISTOPHER MITCHELL!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96vzXWXPCfM

So both Pick 3 World and Demetrius were in the same Facebook group for "pick 3 lotto enthusiast", I get this part.

So we know Demetrius knew CM from the Property Investors web page.


Im assuming at some point Demetrius told Pick 3 World about CM? Maybe tried to get people in the lottery group to follow CM?

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

So both Pick 3 World and Demetrius were in the same Facebook group for "pick 3 lotto enthusiast", I get this part.

So we know Demetrius knew CM from the Propery Investors webpage.


Im assuming at some point Demetrius told Pick 3 World about CM? Maybe tried to get people in the lottery group to follow CM?

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I pressed him on this but he says that Demetrius was in his FB group but they are not friends. He said he started watching CM just going down the YouTube rabbit hole like many of us. It sounds to be a pretty big coincidence I know, but the way he explained it was very believable. He is also distancing himself from both.

https://youtu.be/JQ2xIwH1glQ

says he was back off??? pretty much unheard in baccarat

says he won 7100....the most cash recently he's shown has been around 4k....so let's see if he has 12k to show....I'm not sure he'll be able to show it

I went through the thankless task of watching every giveaway for the “winner”. Unless I missed something Pick 3 World never won a lick. It was good ole Red Pill (Hey Stacy). Despite donating a bunch they didn’t even throw Pick 3 a bone. Selfish & shameless. Here is the list of “winners”....

May 17 - William Weck

May 24 - Doe Sun

May 31 - Brandon

June 7 - Title Vacated (No giveaway)

June 14 - Red Pill �� (2 Black Chips)

June 21 - Steve C

June 28 - PabloEscobaraSerb (Start getting Chrissy better Coke Pablo! nostrils red af)

July 1 - Adam Scheuplein 5K Sub Special (Won after donating $5)

July 5- Robert Collins (Notebook Debacle Shoutout Wars for brining the heat)

July 9- Pezhman Salehi Shafa (Thursday Night Live) As-salamu alaykum Pezhman!

July 11- Title Vacated (No SNL)

So it looks like unless I missed something my man didn’t win shit. He was not blessed with abundance from the many donations to CM. This further solidifies our conversation in my opinion.

Today’s video at 3:55 doesn’t that 5 K wrapper look light? My eyesight isn’t great but it seems short to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ2xIwH1glQ&t=254s

He forgot to mention he got kicked out of the Gold Coast for giving blowies in the bathroom, not playing baccarat. Thanks Crowe Diddly...

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Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly

http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/att...6&d=1593399620

Warning: NOT safe for work or family!

 

http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/att...5&d=1593399606

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Today’s video at 3:55 doesn’t that 5 K wrapper look light? My eyesight isn’t great but it seems short to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ2xIwH1glQ&t=254s

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99% vegetarian yet, every time he has posted a meal he has been eating meat.

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99% vegetarian yet, every time he has posted a meal he has been eating meat.

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JeffDime typo rep for you D-Killa. Haven’t slept a wink. That vegan food just doesn’t sell the dream quite as much as a rack of ribs I guess. Or maybe he’s just full of shit like always. Yea, that’s probably it.

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Originally Posted by nick2199

https://youtu.be/JQ2xIwH1glQ

says he was back off??? pretty much unheard in baccarat

says he won 7100....the most cash recently he's shown has been around 4k....so let's see if he has 12k to show....I'm not sure he'll be able to show it

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Yeah, a backoff in baccarat very unusual. Hopefully all the awareness that has been put out about his scam is working. Most likley if they did back him off, they didnt get into specifics with him.

I don't have time to go through this video right now.

Can someone direct me to the timestamp where he describes getting backed off?

As one who has been backed off many times in my life for counting cards (though not much in the last 10 years, because I mostly quit blackjack), I can tell you that baccarat back-offs simply aren't happening unless they're suspecting card counting. (Yes, you can count cards in baccarat, but it's only +EV for certain side bets.)

Since CM has stated he absolutely never makes side bets, there's zero point zero chance they kicked him for betting player/banker, no matter what his betting pattern was.

Either he's lying, or they're finally deciding to get rid of him because of his scammy videos. I still think it's more likely that no place is backing him off, because they love his action and his money. Why wouldn't they?

Backoff at 2:47

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I don't have time to go through this video right now.

Can someone direct me to the timestamp where he describes getting backed off?

As one who has been backed off many times in my life for counting cards (though not much in the last 10 years, because I mostly quit blackjack), I can tell you that baccarat back-offs simply aren't happening unless they're suspecting card counting. (Yes, you can count cards in baccarat, but it's only +EV for certain side bets.)

Since CM has stated he absolutely never makes side bets, there's zero point zero chance they kicked him for betting player/banker, no matter what his betting pattern was.

Either he's lying, or they're finally deciding to get rid of him because of his scammy videos. I still think it's more likely that no place is backing him off, because they love his action and his money. Why wouldn't they?

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Right at 2:45 Druff. He says after they made $800 the pit boss told them they don’t want his action. Pretty sure it’s a lie but he may have gotten into trouble at Boyd properties for buying chips and not playing.

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I don't have time to go through this video right now.

Can someone direct me to the timestamp where he describes getting backed off?

As one who has been backed off many times in my life for counting cards (though not much in the last 10 years, because I mostly quit blackjack), I can tell you that baccarat back-offs simply aren't happening unless they're suspecting card counting. (Yes, you can count cards in baccarat, but it's only +EV for certain side bets.)

Since CM has stated he absolutely never makes side bets, there's zero point zero chance they kicked him for betting player/banker, no matter what his betting pattern was.

Either he's lying, or they're finally deciding to get rid of him because of his scammy videos. I still think it's more likely that no place is backing him off, because they love his action and his money. Why wouldn't they?

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I’m not saying CM did this, but the Morgenstern formula was to be verbally abusive to dealers and other players, get kicked out, and film himself being escorted out by security, saying he’s being backed off for winning.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I don't have time to go through this video right now.

Can someone direct me to the timestamp where he describes getting backed off?

As one who has been backed off many times in my life for counting cards (though not much in the last 10 years, because I mostly quit blackjack), I can tell you that baccarat back-offs simply aren't happening unless they're suspecting card counting. (Yes, you can count cards in baccarat, but it's only +EV for certain side bets.)

Since CM has stated he absolutely never makes side bets, there's zero point zero chance they kicked him for betting player/banker, no matter what his betting pattern was.

Either he's lying, or they're finally deciding to get rid of him because of his scammy videos. I still think it's more likely that no place is backing him off, because they love his action and his money. Why wouldn't they?

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I’m not saying CM did this, but the Morgenstern formula was to be verbally abusive to dealers and other players, get kicked out, and film himself being escorted out by security, saying he’s being backed off for winning.

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Def Morgenstern did that but imho there is no chance CM wants to be banned from any casino. CM loves being able to go anywhere he wants. I think it’s likely they told him to scram for whatever reason and that was the cover story. Absurd, backed off for martingaling.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I don't have time to go through this video right now.

Can someone direct me to the timestamp where he describes getting backed off?

As one who has been backed off many times in my life for counting cards (though not much in the last 10 years, because I mostly quit blackjack), I can tell you that baccarat back-offs simply aren't happening unless they're suspecting card counting. (Yes, you can count cards in baccarat, but it's only +EV for certain side bets.)

Since CM has stated he absolutely never makes side bets, there's zero point zero chance they kicked him for betting player/banker, no matter what his betting pattern was.

Either he's lying, or they're finally deciding to get rid of him because of his scammy videos. I still think it's more likely that no place is backing him off, because they love his action and his money. Why wouldn't they?

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Druff's right it's one of the two. But for factual reasons I'm now 99% sure (to use a Chris-ism) he was backed off because someone at Gold Coast knew about his shenanigans and was ethical enough to not want to have Gold Coast be the backdrop for his scammy videos.

The reason for this is...



I'm 99% sure William is legit.

I don't know if I want to reveal how I know this. The problem if I do is these Christopher fan boys don't deserve to have their identity revealed if all they are is a fanboy. I cannot reveal my methods without revealing a first and last name.

So for now, just trust me, I'm 99% positive William is real (If I showed you how I know this, you'd agree). He paid Chris money for the BS .pdf files for sure. And now apparently, even more $$$ for the sessions. But I think he's one of the few that are real.

It would be awesome if we had our second flip-over in the form of William and his wife. If he's reading this, I want him to know we're not hating on him...we're trying to save him. Join the team...you likely now know that Christopher is selling Martingale and that is not worth ANYTHING. And those .pdfs you bought...come on. Those are beyond WORTHLESS. You picked the wrong mentor here William.

I just spoke with Pick 3 World again. He was definitely trolling when he said “We’ll be starting shortly” before that giveaway. By then people were calling him Stacy so long he just went with it. He thinks Christopher said he won a past giveaway in a video and I vaguely remember that as well. Makes it all even more fucked up.

He also confirmed he never won shit in the giveaways. Was never thrown a bone by CM at all for all the donations and support. Not even invited into the Facebook group. We talked about why CM says he doesn’t use PayPal or Cashapp and why that has to surely be about past chargebacks. Ever since my post and video are out his comments are blocked on CM’s channel (Chrissy you fucking coward). I told him welcome to the club. Good dude.

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Originally Posted by nick2199

https://youtu.be/JQ2xIwH1glQ

says he was back off??? pretty much unheard in baccarat

says he won 7100....the most cash recently he's shown has been around 4k....so let's see if he has 12k to show....I'm not sure he'll be able to show it

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Yeah, a backoff in baccarat very unusual. Hopefully all the awareness that has been put out about his scam is working. Most likley if they did back him off, they didnt get into specifics with him.

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He's implying that he has a minimum of 5 clients with him. I'm 99% sure that is a lie.