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Ever claimed the child tax credit? Earned income tax credit? Home mortgage interest deduction? Ever put money in a tax-advantaged retirement account like an IRA or 401(k)? Ever gone to a public school or sent a child to one or claimed in-state tuition at a state university? If you answered yes to any of these then you are on the gov't tit.Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24
Every American has lol . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
Wrong I was robbed by force to pay taxes unconstitutionally for all that shit , you are the typical moron . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerEver claimed the child tax credit? Earned income tax credit? Home mortgage interest deduction? Ever put money in a tax-advantaged retirement account like an IRA or 401(k)? Ever gone to a public school or sent a child to one or claimed in-state tuition at a state university? If you answered yes to any of these then you are on the gov't tit.Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24
hongkonger is many things but a moron he is not.
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Originally Posted by hongkongerEver claimed the child tax credit? Earned income tax credit? Home mortgage interest deduction? Ever put money in a tax-advantaged retirement account like an IRA or 401(k)? Ever gone to a public school or sent a child to one or claimed in-state tuition at a state university? If you answered yes to any of these then you are on the gov't tit.Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24
How the fuck is getting your OWN money back from the government equate to "being on the government tit"?
The only people who benefit from earned income credits are people making less then 12k a year.
I don't think anyone is thrilled about Donald Trump, but the people that will vote for him will do it because they think he's the best candidate.
You guys can't seriously think hillary is a better candidate?
Bernie has some good ideas but he's also a fucking communist who admittedly wants to continue to bankrupt this country.
His last post proves otherwise . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by lewfather
Oh BTW the rich are more on the gov't tit than anyone in America, especially Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
If you inherited what he did you would be broke and on the gov't tit just like your faggot ass is now . . .
Trump has obtained many pieces of land for his projects using eminent domain. He calls his friends in the local government and they take away someone else's property and hand it to Trump. Trump's on the tit.
He's delcared bankruptcy how many times? Why shouldn't he have to go wipe the asses of his creditors until he's paid his debts? Bankruptcy is a government program designed to help people who are struggling financially. Trump's on the tit.
Trump has negotiated one tax break after another on property developments. He has even received flat-out subsidies (actual cash in hand) on some projects under government programs that were designed to support infrastructure improvements in impoverished neighborhoods. Trump's on the tit.
Trump's on the tit, and so are you.
It's unconstitutional for the government to tax you? Please explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24Wrong I was robbed by force to pay taxes unconstitutionally for all that shit , you are the typical moron . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
So who would you vote for?Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerOh BTW the rich are more on the gov't tit than anyone in America, especially Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24
Trump has obtained many pieces of land for his projects using eminent domain. He calls his friends in the local government and they take away someone else's property and hand it to Trump. Trump's on the tit.
He's delcared bankruptcy how many times? Why shouldn't he have to go wipe the asses of his creditors until he's paid his debts? Bankruptcy is a government program designed to help people who are struggling financially. Trump's on the tit.
Trump has negotiated one tax break after another on property developments. He has even received flat-out subsidies (actual cash in hand) on some projects under government programs that were designed to support infrastructure improvements in impoverished neighborhoods. Trump's on the tit.
Trump's on the tit, and so are you.
You get to pay less in taxes. That is a government benefit.Quote:
Originally Posted by MintjewlipsQuote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
How the fuck is getting your OWN money back from the government equate to "being on the government tit"?
The only people who benefit from earned income credits are people making less then 12k a year.
If you and I have identical tax returns, except you live in a house and pay a mortgage and I spend the same amount of money for my housing, but I rent, you can deduct your mortgage interest from your taxable income, and I cannot deduct what I paid in rent. That is a housing subsidy for you.
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Originally Posted by hongkongerYou get to pay less in taxes. That is a government benefit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
If you and I have identical tax returns, except you live in a house and pay a mortgage and I spend the same amount of money for my housing, but I rent, you can deduct your mortgage interest from your taxable income, and I cannot deduct what I paid in rent. That is a housing subsidy for you.
Yes, but if i give you $100 and you give me back $90, does that mean you gave me $90?
Someone who:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
-- acknowledges facts and bases her decisions on those facts
-- isn't crazy
-- has some experience dealing with the issues of the day
-- isn't relying on bring out the worst in people (racism, sexism, xenophobia, aggressive nationalism) to build her own support
is a far better candidate than Trump, yes.
Try reading what two forms of taxation the fed govt is allowed, you are one of those people who think they are smart but are not lol . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerIt's unconstitutional for the government to tax you? Please explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24
No. But if I am entitled to receive $20 from you, and you give me $100, and instead of giving you back $80 I give you back $90, then I am giving you an extra $10. That's a government benefit.Quote:
Originally Posted by MintjewlipsQuote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
Yes, but if i give you $100 and you give me back $90, does that mean you gave me $90?
A known criminal is better choice lol , yup you are definately a moron . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerSomeone who:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
-- acknowledges facts and bases her decisions on those facts
-- isn't crazy
-- has some experience dealing with the issues of the day
-- isn't relying on bring out the worst in people (racism, sexism, xenophobia, aggressive nationalism) to build her own support
is a far better candidate than Trump, yes.
Income taxes are constitutional.Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24Try reading what two forms of taxation the fed govt is allowed, you are one of those people who think they are smart but are not lol . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
I didn't realize Hillary had been convicted of any crime, please elaborate.Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24A known criminal is better choice lol , yup you are definately a moron . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
:facepalmQuote:
Originally Posted by sah_24
Is this dumbass a troll like bottomshit and I just didn't notice? Or is he actually this stupid?Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369:facepalmQuote:
Originally Posted by sah_24
Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerSomeone who:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
-- acknowledges facts and bases her decisions on those facts
-- isn't crazy
-- has some experience dealing with the issues of the day
-- isn't relying on bring out the worst in people (racism, sexism, xenophobia, aggressive nationalism) to build her own support
is a far better candidate than Trump, yes.
-- acknowledges facts and bases her decisions on those facts
Benghazi
-- isn't crazy
Benghazi
-- has some experience dealing with the issues of the day
Benghazi
-- isn't relying on bring out the worst in people (racism, sexism, xenophobia, aggressive nationalism) to build her own support
young black men must be made to heel i believe was the quote
Her "MENTOR" was Robert Carlyle Byrd, who was a fucking klansmen
And she also exploits incidents of racism, sexism, xenophobia to her advantage. Just because she uses them to posture and politically grandstand like she's championing those issues doesn't make it right.
I'm going to go with choice #2.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
Please point out where in the Constitution it says the government has a right to implement an "income tax"Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerIncome taxes are constitutional.Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24
uhhh 16th amendmentQuote:
Originally Posted by MintjewlipsPlease point out where in the Constitution it says the government has a right to implement an "income tax"Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
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Originally Posted by blake
:hof
:facepalmQuote:
Originally Posted by MintjewlipsPlease point out where in the Constitution it says the government has a right to implement an "income tax"Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
Benghazi has been thoroughly investigated. Even the Republican-controlled Congressional committees that investigated it admitted there was no ill intent nor malpractice on her part.Quote:
Originally Posted by MintjewlipsQuote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
-- acknowledges facts and bases her decisions on those facts
Benghazi
-- isn't crazy
Benghazi
-- has some experience dealing with the issues of the day
Benghazi
-- isn't relying on bring out the worst in people (racism, sexism, xenophobia, aggressive nationalism) to build her own support
young black men must be made to heel i believe was the quote
Her "MENTOR" was Robert Carlyle Byrd, who was a fucking klansmen
And she also exploits incidents of racism, sexism, xenophobia to her advantage. Just because she uses them to posture and politically grandstand like she's championing those issues doesn't make it right.
Uh, guys, you do realize that all Mintjewlips has done since he got here is trollpost right?
Like I see people facepalming over his posts like hes an actual person who thinks that stuff, you would do well to reconsider that position.
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland...0e75245cd9.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by lewfatheruhhh 16th amendmentQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
I don't pay enough attention to know that. Thanks for the heads up.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
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Originally Posted by hongkongerI don't pay enough attention to know that. Thanks for the heads up.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Yeah np, at best hes the single biggest tryhard in the history of this forum and the ones before it.
More like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Henryhttp://media.oregonlive.com/portland...0e75245cd9.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by lewfather
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaSUOFleNRU
No they are not . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerIncome taxes are constitutional.Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24
And how many states ratified that as the constitution says ? . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by lewfatheruhhh 16th amendmentQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
I'll just leave this here.....
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“If you owe the bank thousands (a small amount), then the bank owns you. If you owe the bank millions (a large amount), then you own the bank.” The proverb became associated with New York real estate developer Donald Trump and his money troubles of the early 1990s.
Another urban myth from the kooks. The amendment was properly ratified, and any argument to the contrary has been rejected by courts time and time again. The government has the power to tax your income. Deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24And how many states ratified that as the constitution says ? . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by lewfather
Where has the surpreme court held ? Lower courts mean nothing and that is all you can cite . . .it was never ratified by the required number of states but thanks for playing bud . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerAnother urban myth from the kooks. The amendment was properly ratified, and any argument to the contrary has been rejected by courts time and time again. The government has the power to tax your income. Deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24
Where what?Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24where ?Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
If the Supreme Court leaves a lower court's decision alone without even taking the case, they are letting the result stand. The Supreme Court has more important things to deal with than a few desperate, delusional cranks. If you think "lower courts mean nothing," then you're full fucking retard. Ask the tax evaders who have gone to prison for relying on your bullshit myth whether "lower courts mean nothing."Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24Where has the surpreme court held ? Lower courts mean nothing and that is all you can cite . . .it was never ratified by the required number of states but thanks for playing bud . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
So your kid gets killed in the embassy. Hillary tells you that some guy made a youtube video and that's the reason your kid died. Now you know that she made all of that shit up and looked you in the eye when she told you.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerBenghazi has been thoroughly investigated. Even the Republican-controlled Congressional committees that investigated it admitted there was no ill intent nor malpractice on her part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
Fuck you. Seriously fuck you.
Ok bud , the surpreme court has ruled on it moron just not on your side . . .Also just for fun what does "voluntary compliance" mean ?Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerIf the Supreme Court leaves a lower court's decision alone without even taking the case, they are letting the result stand. The Supreme Court has more important things to deal with than a few desperate, delusional cranks. If you think "lower courts mean nothing," then you're full fucking retard. Ask the tax evaders who have gone to prison for relying on your bullshit myth whether "lower courts mean nothing."Quote:
Originally Posted by sah_24