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I stayed at MB three weeks before the shooting. I had a rental car parked in the garage and made multiple trips getting luggage, coolers, etc. My only comment here is it's an easy walk from the garage to the elevators and there's virtually 0.0 security, staff, etc. monitoring the foot traffic. This guy could easily make as many trips necessary back & forth and no one would pay him any attention.
Wife & I will be in Vegas next weekend and for the first time in a long time I'm staying off strip. May be stupid but this shit has me freaked. Not enough to cancel though.... my gambling addiction is strong.
It was the Nazis...
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Stephen Paddock: Motive of Las Vegas gunman may lie in his gambling habits
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stephen...mbling-habits/
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"He was a substantial gambler. It was a job to him," Eric Paddock said.
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"he was a rich guy" who hung out in casino hotels but didn't have a lot of friends. He called him an independently wealthy man who basically gambled for a living.
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The massacre has brought new attention to the world of high-limit video poker and casino comps where high-rollers are given all sorts of free items to keep them gambling. The biggest gamblers - often known as whales - can get such perks as chartered planes, butlers and free lodging at a $35,000-a-night villa.
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Paddock's brother said he wasn't at that level, but he gambled enough that he got free rooms, poolside cabanas and high-end sushi meals exceeding $1,000.
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"He won cars and $250,000 checks and all this stuff from the hotel," Eric Paddock said.
What, If Anything, Does Stephen Paddock’s Gambling Have to Do With the Las Vegas Shooting?
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...-relevant.html
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“This guy was a dyed-in-the-wool video poker player who would play the $5, $10, and $25 machines, which is high denomination but not super high,” Curtis said. “He could easily approach 1,000 hands an hour with his eyes closed, which means he’s betting over $100,000 an hour.”
Yet the game he played — known as Five Aces video poker — has the highest payout average of any game in the high-end salon, Curtis said. Paddock, reportedly a former accountant and real-estate investor, likely knew his math and made up the “leakage” — about $8.70 per $1,000 played — by enjoying perks, according to Curtis. As a gambler, Paddock was rated a “low 7,” said Curtis, meaning the casinos had verified he had between $1 million and $3 million in his bank account (that is, low seven figures).
While Paddock was clearly a high-roller, Curtis said it is probably inaccurate to call him a “professional gambler,” the term Paddock’s brother used to describe him. A wealthy player can essentially break even between winnings and perks, but nothing about Paddock’s play implied he was really making his living in the casino.
High stakes gamblers are creepy guys with suicidal tendencies.
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http://fox8.com/2017/10/06/official-...fore-massacre/
Homeboy went to a gun show in Phoenix a few weeks ago and attempted to buy tracer rounds, but couldn't get any so he just got a bunch of regular bullets. Tracers are dumb as shit here. He might as well have had a neon sign that said "here is my well hidden sniping position". Nobody with any military background would do that.
Also, you know what weapon traffickers don't do? Drive 5 hours each way to a gun show to get bullets.
The girl that cut his hair at Great Clips said he smelled like liquor 2 months ago. Once again, making him the least observant radical wahabist muslim ever.
But he tried to explode fuel tanks by shooting them. Despite hitting them with rounds, they didn't explode as he had likely hoped (from watching too many action movies/TV shows). Using tracers with those rounds might have caused the fuel tanks to explode given that a tracer round burns a chemical in flight to light up.
I don't think he was participating in any terrorist groups, i think he may have been supplying them, by cohorts i meant people he was involved with who were all running guns to Afghanistan during the admitted CIA involvement with the mujahideen.
I don't know if ALL 33 guns were registered to him, but if so it's not like all of those fit in a hand bag, you're talking about some serious logistics here, not including the bullets and accessories.
Obviously wasn't about gambling losses, my theory is he was wacked out on pills and wasn't using his best judgement on the people he was associating himself with. This just seems like the classic FBI entrapment scenario where they use undercover agents to lure some suspected terrorist into a sting operation run to entrap them into comiting a crime and right before they pull it off the feds come swooping in. My speculation is that there is a second level that consist of extraterritorial nefarious groups that consist of devil worshipers who get off on this shit and happen to be in our very own goverment orginazations who hijack said operations and actually go through with some of these acts to terrorize the people so they can further their own agenda. Meanwhile if there is an operation ran by an agency that goes wrong and circumvented by the second level, they would just back off and pretend nothing happened as the patsy is dead and they would have to admit that their investigation was hijacked by people they don't even know.
Ofcourse it's my speculation, this could just be a guy that was wacked out on pills and succumbed to his own psychotic thoughts and went through with them.
it doesnt need to be an either/or scenario of course.
he could have been involved in any number of shady grey market dealings and any number of federal agencies could have been involved.
and that could have had absolutely no bearing on him descending into madness.
also you can be an arms dealer without ever touching or even seeing a gun in real life.
if you really want to learn about the subject, this is the most bang youre going to get for your buck:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...alers-20110316
Wow you actually think a totally unvetted person/people who have zero connections in the military contract world can just bid on a multi million dollar contract to provide foreign fighters with weapons?.....................interesting.
I do agree that it can be an either or scenario tho.
Before you mock please keep in mind that there was an actual plan layed out by the Pentagon to blow up a plane with Americans in it and blame on Fidel...........like that was a real thing.
Just imagine what will be declassified in 50 years.
i dont understand, are you being sarcastic or did you read the article or are you just massaging your fingertips or something
because that article is literally about a totally unvetted person/people who had zero connections in the military contract world and just bid on a multi million dollar contract to provide foreign fighters with weapons, and won the bids, and got the contracts.
also lets be clear; when rumors start on 4chan and implicitly undermine our faith in a branch of our government, ones intelligence is measured in skepticism, not suspicion.
Just to be clear, when we speak of 4chan, we are all on the same page that it is a propaganda arm of the Mossad, right?
The other thing that i have not seen discussed much is how the hell did he become a millionaire with his background? I know of no former government workers who doubled as small time accountants that were millionaires with multiple houses, planes, and retired so early. And since they didn't come from money, yet there was enough for him to spread it around to his family, where did it come from?
You can't get into an elevator lobby without being carded. Security at entrance to pools and all other entrance exit.
My guess is the effort is unsustainable and has little real value. $100 room gets you the run of the place.
I haven't seen anyone get aggressive or disorderly. I imagine they would get smashed now - no mercy.
Absolutely none of the players talk about the event at the tables or whatever. The locals do in the Arts District or Container Park and such. VegasStrong is kind of a thing.
Spent more time behind the Stratosphere in that neck of the woods. The marijuana biz is fully evident with construction etc. Met some marketing guys working in that biz. Fascinating.
Life goes on. Prolly no safer place on earth now.
you would argue with a brick wall. And then are quick to call others out for what you think are ill-conceived notions when they challenge your linear thinking. <Sigh>
He was 64. He hadn't worked since the 80's you said. So let's say he last worked in 88 just to give you the benefit of the doubt. That was 29 years ago. So, he was 35 when he stopped working b/c he was sufficiently wealthy to get enough loans to build a real estate business worth millions when he sold it, all on a government salary. Sure thing.
maybe setting up cameras around he hotel? keep in mind that this guy has no record of being involved with guns at all or surveillance/security, etc. his brother confirmed that fwiw.
again these are opinions of people in actual criminal investigation saying this. I’m not telling you he had help, although at least some law enforcement officials apparently think he did
I was wondering how he got his "seed" money as well but this is a good point. I knew people before the financial crisis getting approved for million dollar loans with no proof of income. Mortgage brokers would falsify all kinds of crap to get people approved.
He seems like a smart guy and properly hit a score on his first investment and then just parlayed it.
I mean, i am kind of an idiot and took 6k and turned that into one million and then reinvested and got lucky since. A lot of it is just about timing
I still don’t get the liberal outrage here. quoting a presumably liberal NYTimes journalist covering ISIS for a living? a 2-time Pulitzer Prize finalist btw
it’s like suddenly I transformed from trump’s biggest critic on this board to Sean Hannity in the blink of an eye. how the fuck are you guys so triggered?
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I totally agree with DirtyB on this. This wasnt some mastermind . Honestly, he fucked up a lot of shit that i mentioned before.
1. Smoke detector fail. seems obvious to me
2. Camera on the food tray. Unneeded risk. He could have put camera in a lot better places than a tray that could get taken at any time.
3. No diversion. Why not get another room on one floor down and set off a fire or get audio playing of gun shots in other rooms to confuse people as to where the shots are coming from.
4. He could have barricaded the shit out of the door. Did little in that area.
This guy @USNJack has been destroying every conspiracy theory out there. Here is his best guess at motive:
NavyJack @USNJack 16m16 minutes ago
If I had to guess motive, and it would only be a guess, based on the evidence to date, I would put ISIS 1st, Just Crazy 2nd. We'll see.
I'll say this, if the "official" story turns out to be this guy was inspired by ISIS we will know with 100% certainty that it was a Mossad operation.
seriously, :this
a crazy dude wanted to shoot some people.
he literally set up a camera next to his nests so he could film himself doing it, but didnt livestream it to twitch or facebook, so honestly how hard was he really trying here. if isis was behind this, they would have given their youngest wives to have a video of him catching his high score for their next zine.
and again im not saying there is definitely no isis involvement, im saying that its stupid to take isis' word for it given the total lack of evidence.
find me some chatter, find me a mysterious vacation in yemen, a koran, prayer beads, anything.
The constant moving from house to house seems pretty damn sketchy, but not in an ISIS sort of way.
I don't think anyone ever got rich off Mesquite NV real estate, but it is the perfect location to stay off the radar, central location to Las Vegas, AZ, and LA, where there is plenty of dirty money to go around.
I'm thinking money washing (and maybe guns on the side?), which brings him into contact with some bad people and explains the weapons, tannerite, etc.
Where better than a casino to meet these people, and feel somewhat safe under the cameras and security?
Who better to handle this than an accountant and former IRS guy?
Perhaps all the stress got to him and he decided to go out in a blaze of glory, a medical condition, extreme threats from his clients, or the .01% chance he got caught up with terrorists or a covert OP, who used him to get the weapons into the building and left him to take the fall?
I may have this wrong. But is that guy saying all of the locations Paddock scouted faced towards Mecca?
You've cracked it Drk. That's some slamdunk evidence right there.
Case closed
Oh and I typed this post while also facing towards Mecca (but mine was coincidence)
I don't know what to believe anymore but damn if there isn't a TON of smoke.
https://pamelageller.com/2017/10/las...is-video.html/
Another 20 tweet string about this claim. Here they are read from bottom up I am too lazy to put them in order.Quote:
As I previously pointed out, Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock filmed himself during the rampage. He set up a camera inside his hotel room to capture his deadly shooting rampage. Jihadis do that and then post it online. It’s a recruiting tool – imagine the kind of ideology that is seduced by that.
Secondly, the Islamic State does not take credit for events that are not theirs. Not only have they taken credit for it, but they have double and tripled-down on this claim.
Paddock may have scouted locations, including Fenway Park in Boston, Lollapalooza in Chicago and the Life is Beautiful music festival in Las Vegas, before the attack from Mandalay Bay on a massive gathering of country music fans.
Even the New York Times ISIS expert correspondent is having second thought, thinks Vegas slaughter might be ISIS after all
And now this. A former Trump campaign official has leaked information from within the White House that Las Vegas massacre gunman Stephen Paddock made an ISIS propaganda tape. State Assistant Director for Trump:
A former Trump campaign official is making extraordinary claims he was leaked information from within the White House that Las Vegas massacre gunman Stephen Paddock made an ISIS propaganda tape and that authorities are refusing to reveal that the mass shooting was a terror attack.
Former Massachusetts Trump campaign official James Brower posted a series of tweets last night claiming he was leaked information about Paddock being inspired by ISIS to carry out the mass shooting.
“There is a video, this video will prove the motive. He had a secret digital profile that was uncovered over the last 24 hrs,” claims Brower.
“Motive will be pretty shocking, I won’t say much but it will definitely change a lot of things going forward,” he added.
“I’m being told the video basically speaks about a network, they wouldn’t tell me directly if it was ISIS but they threw little hints that it was,” Brower told Infowars.
“The reason the video more than likely is never released is because they believe it will trigger the “cells” he speaks of,” according to Brower.
“There should be a statement on motive soon,” he added, “They believe he was inspired by ISIS.”
He also claims that there was a second person who helped Paddock plot the attack that the gunman was seen with three days prior to the massacre. This individual left before the shooting began, according to Brower. Hotel receipts suggest that Paddock was with another person days before the shooting.
Authorities have now acknowledged that Paddock had “help” and originally planned to escape and carry out other atrocities. His car contained fertilizer that could be used to make explosives and 50 pounds of the explosive substance Tannerite, clearly suggesting he was planning a car bombing.
Brower claims the source leaking his the information is an individual within the Trump cabinet. The former Trump campaign official did previously release information about Paul Manafort being wiretapped before it became public.
Brower also claims that Paddock’s digital profile “showed he researched many of the massacres committed by IS lately in Europe.”
However, Fox News reports that after “Analyzing Paddock’s computer, cellphone and other electronic devices, investigators have found no obvious ideological motive, no clear connection to extremists or activist groups or outward display of mental illness.”
It is important to emphasize that Infowars does not endorse the veracity of Brower’s claims and they conflict with what officials investigating the case have revealed.
However, it’s important to add that Sheriff Joe Lombardo did acknowledge that the shooter may have been “radicalized” and that he may have had an accomplice who helped organize the plot.
In addition, after ISIS released the latest issue of their newsletter, which showed a picture of the Mandalay Bay drenched in blood, New York Times correspondent Rukmini Callimachi noted that the terror group’s claim of responsibility may not have been false.
James B Scooping 🍦 @jbro_1776 9h9 hours ago
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FBI was unaware of online profile, hence why they said it wasn't terror related. But it's clear IS has been targeting Vegas for years.James B Scooping 🍦 added,
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Also based on what I've been told is that they are in belief that it was IS, but not sure if he joined on his own power or was manipulated
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Also based on what I've been told is that they are in belief that it was IS, but not sure if he joined on his own power or was manipulated
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the Network could be totally made up by him, but it was taken as a cause of concern. That is known at the moment.
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The reason the video more than likely is never released is because they believe it will trigger the "cells" he speaks of.
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Video mentioned a network, it did not specify if it was ISIS or another organization, but he mentioned there being more just like him.
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Haddock had 2 more events he planned to shoot up, he planned to get away in Vegas. Something went wrong "security guard".
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There was someone in the room with the shooter, but they left before the shooting started. This 2nd person is not a women.
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James B Scooping 🍦 @jbro_1776 20h20 hours ago
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I hope they release the video to the public, but I'm not sure they will. It's pretty disturbing, but I do believe it eventually leaks.James B Scooping 🍦 added,
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There is a video, this video will prove the motive. He had a secret digital profile that was uncovered over the last 24 hrs. https://twitter.com/jbro_1776/status/916080778639003648 …
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This is in regards to Vegas and not Russia. Russia Narrative is crumbling tho 😉James B Scooping 🍦 added,
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There is a video, this video will prove the motive. He had a secret digital profile that was uncovered over the last 24 hrs. https://twitter.com/jbro_1776/status/916080778639003648 …
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There is a video, this video will prove the motive. He had a secret digital profile that was uncovered over the last 24 hrs.James B Scooping 🍦 added,
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Motive will be pretty shocking, I won't say much but it will definitely change a lot of things going forward.
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Motive will be pretty shocking, I won't say much but it will definitely change a lot of things going forward.
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Burr says: "Media will have egg their face".
Wonder what excuse the MSM will have once their Anon sources are proven wrong.
#FakeNews
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Are you seriously arguing that somebody couldn't make millions in real estate in the good old U.S. of A. over 20+ years during the 80's, 90's. & 00's? JFC dude.
& stop implying that he "last worked" when he was 35 unless, of course, you think working in real estate isn't work.
He did most of his real estate deals in California, could have easily cleaned up with the right deals during that period. They mentioned last night he sold one of his apartment buildings he owned with a partner for 8 million recently. That is the type of level he was on.