gimmick logic: 70,000 people crammed together in a small space, many without masks, is safe, because others stay at home as a result.
The guy has to be trolling.
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gimmick logic: 70,000 people crammed together in a small space, many without masks, is safe, because others stay at home as a result.
The guy has to be trolling.
Ok do you have anything resembling numbers to back up that it worsened the infections? It's literally the same thing why death numbers went down at the start of the quarantine. Sure people died of covid, but apparently that's less than deaths resulting in people living their every day lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
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Originally Posted by gimmickOk do you have anything resembling numbers to back up that it worsened the infections? It's literally the same thing why death numbers went down at the start of the quarantine. Sure people died of covid, but apparently that's less than deaths resulting in people living their every day lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...onavirus-casesQuote:
It’s “highly likely” that the coronavirus case surge is connected to mass protests that erupted in recent weeks over the death of George Floyd, L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said.
I'm sure Democrat Barbara Ferrer is just lying though. Has to be Trump's fault in some way.
Golfclap. You found a person backing you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffQuote:
Originally Posted by gimmick
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...onavirus-casesQuote:
It’s “highly likely” that the coronavirus case surge is connected to mass protests that erupted in recent weeks over the death of George Floyd, L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said.
I'm sure Democrat Barbara Ferrer is just lying though. Has to be Trump's fault in some way.
lol gimmick so stupid
It’s amazing how many people and businesses depended on this model for success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Conventions are dead.
Anyone associated with conventions are no longer getting paid any money.
This will probably be the case for the next two to three years.
Stadiums are dead.
Some sports teams will play in empty stadiums but most people who worked there won’t return for at least two to three years.
All those concerts and special events with 20,000 plus people will not return for at least three years maybe longer.
Most musicians who relied on touring to pay the bills, they will go broke.
Almost every company impacted because of the coronavirus.
Most will suffer with just loss revenue.
Many companies will go out of business.
There will be far less bars and restaurants in America.
New Year's will be cancelled except for the fireworks.
https://www.rd.com/wp-content/upload...ks-760x506.jpg
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-35331/v1
SARS-CoV-2 T-cell epitopes define heterologous and COVID-19-induced T-cell recognition
Here is an interesting study indicating that T cell mediated immunity, as opposed to antibodies, may be more important in developing immunity towards SARS COV, which is something I hypothesized months ago.
The study also indicates that many people who never had SARS COV2 may have full/partial immunity due to past exposure to other coronaviruses, something else I hypothesized. The study indicated up to 80% of people without SARS COV2 had T cells in their blood that reacted to SARS COV2.
Since testing is so god awfully inaccurate how does anyone know who has antibodies?Quote:
Originally Posted by verminaard
If research has accurate testing why can’t this science be transferred to the marketplace?
It’s just something I think about reading this stuff.
Most of the more accurate testing is performed using technologies that are too time intensive, resource intensive and expensive to be used in a marketplace setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarSince testing is so god awfully inaccurate how does anyone know who has antibodies?Quote:
Originally Posted by verminaard
If research has accurate testing why can’t this science be transferred to the marketplace?
It’s just something I think about reading this stuff.
The antibody testing we do have has a lot of errors and limitations, but it is much cheaper and more scalable than other technologies.
Do we even know if the tests can beat a coin flip yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by verminaardMost of the more accurate testing is performed using technologies that are too time intensive, resource intensive and expensive to be used in a marketplace setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
The antibody testing we do have has a lot of errors and limitations, but it is much cheaper and more scalable than other technologies.
Another “SHIT”* video by Now This.
https://youtu.be/Rdr-c5e2DIs
*Probably what Druff would say.
I have something to expand upon this.Quote:
Originally Posted by verminaard
Here is a really good article answering some questions nobody is asking: https://medium.com/@jrfinkel/covid-p...r-3e3a5f333d84
It mentions the study you're talking about.
Most notably, why are we NOT seeing second waves in places which were previously hard hit (New York, Spain, Italy, Belgium, etc) and why are we seeing huge upticks in places which were NOT previously hard hit (Brazil, California, Arizona, Texas, Florida).
This cannot be explained just by lockdown/reopening data, as you'll see.
Like I said on a recent radio show, I think there might be some partial herd immunity, and this article makes the case for it, among other things.
(This is NOT a right wing article, by the way. In fact, it states that the protests in already-hit places did not impact further spread of the virus very much!)
Anyway, this article makes a ton of sense, and is very good news. It's basically making the case that most areas are going to eventually experience one really awful period (also influenced by the popuation density), but that a true second wave will never come, and the virus will die down on its own.
Ohter extrapolations from the article, even though it doesn't directly make these points:
1) Big time reopening should be happening everywhere which has already had a bad wave of COVID-19 and since improved
2) In addition to NOT causing much effect in places which were previously hard-hit, the protests were probably a major killer in places which hadn't been (such as Los Angeles)
3) Schools should reopen
4) The governors of places which have reopened should not be blamed, because every major city is likely to have their moment of pain, and keeping closed is just delaying the inevitable while hurting the economy
5) The picture for 2021 looks much more optimistic, as it would be assumed that most places will have had their period of intense infection by then
there's a handful of ppl here that are so propagandized out of it they would use this as a source
Hey boss, seldom seen Smith here.Quote:
Originally Posted by thesidedish
Hoping to see some video of you maskless and shoulder to shoulder at Mount Rushmore basking in the glow of Trump's benevolence this weekend.
Just wondering, have u caught a Trans World Airlines flight yet?
Seriously though. Scroll up a bit and read the COVID article I posted. You'll be glad you did.
It was written by a woman with left-leaning politics, so it's not any kind of conservative propaganda.
Treadmill arrived yesterday. Going to assemble it today and will post pics afterwards.
https://www.topfitnessmag.com/rowing...-rower-review/
Not that relevant in this thread, but I have been using rower along with treadmill and free weights. I try and do 20 minutes on the rower and really works on the abs lost a few inches in the gut.
This COVID-19 pandemic has had the unintended consequence of showing how a much more dangerous virus has spread throughout the US.
https://youtu.be/53sE_CGGje8
(Wondering which political party those particular virus carriers support.)
This thread is shameful.
Where is the 429 page thread on the greatest virus of all time, the virus of systematic racism.
But I digress. Reading through this entire thread I have not seen one post on how Covid-19 (the official name, my fellow posters) disproportionately affects our African-American community (ie: our brothers and sisters of color).
Shameful.
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Originally Posted by devidee
wtf kind of return is this? blame the jews FFS
Blame?Quote:
Originally Posted by thesidedishQuote:
Originally Posted by devidee
wtf kind of return is this? blame the jews FFS
Our Jewish brothers and sisters have been "blamed" (ie: scapegoated) throughout their entire people's history.
Shameful.
i dont know devidee from what i hear its just not that big a deal and any day now will just go away.
see?
Holy shit, you’re alive?Quote:
Originally Posted by devideeBlame?Quote:
Originally Posted by thesidedish
Our Jewish brothers and sisters have been "blamed" (ie: scapegoated) throughout their entire people's history.
Shameful.
Oh wow. I can't believe you are spreading the propaganda of our Fascist in Chief.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Shameful.
Well, I'm surviving.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishHoly shit, you’re alive?Quote:
Originally Posted by devidee
It's not easy in Trump's America, as we all know.
:watQuote:
Originally Posted by devidee
This is what, the fourth reincarnation of devidee as a completely different person?Quote:
Originally Posted by devideeWell, I'm surviving.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
It's not easy in Trump's America, as we all know.
Stick with this persona. It's a lot better than your last one.
It wasn’t just Donald Trump.
Every single elected official failed to stop this virus.
They are the reason America will go into a recession and possibly a depression.
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Originally Posted by TheXFactor
This tweet and the article it links are bullshit.
There was no "colossal failure" to contain the virus. Look at the numbers, and they will show you that every major metropolitan area in the US and most other places will get one and only one bad outbreak, and then it will greatly reduce on its own.
Greater NYC & Seattle already had their big outbreaks, as did Italy, Spain, and Belgium. All of these places are now mild, and other places which were once mild (Los Angeles, Florida, Texas, Arizona, Brazil) are now bad. This, too, shall pass.
The only real "failure in leadership" was the governors and county health officials ordering COVID-19 positive patients into nursing homes. Those officials have blood on their hands. I'll let you guess which party they're part of.
Apart from Trump, who is more at fault than anyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffQuote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactor
This tweet and the article it links are bullshit.
There was no "colossal failure" to contain the virus. Look at the numbers, and they will show you that every major metropolitan area in the US and most other places will get one and only one bad outbreak, and then it will greatly reduce on its own.
Greater NYC & Seattle already had their big outbreaks, as did Italy, Spain, and Belgium. All of these places are now mild, and other places which were once mild (Los Angeles, Florida, Texas, Arizona, Brazil) are now bad. This, too, shall pass.
The only real "failure in leadership" was the governors and county health officials ordering COVID-19 positive patients into nursing homes. Those officials have blood on their hands. I'll let you guess which party they're part of.
Head of the CDC Dr Redfield
DeSantis, Kemp, Reynolds.
That asshole Kudlow
Kushner
de Blasio
Pence is a fucking moron too but he is just puppet so it's hard to place too much blame on him. He does what he is told .
Adelson and Trump both in his ear
How?Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakApart from Trump, who is more at fault than anyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
If it's a fact that every population center needs to go through it once, there wasn't anything Trump could have done. The only important thing in such a case would be protection of the vulnerable populations, which some Dem governors like Whitmer and Cuomo screwed up royally.
Anyway my area is now experiencing a spike and is currently among the worst in the US for new infections per capita, so time to be extra careful.
I REALLY hope you and the women who wrote that article are right but Dr. Fauci disagreesQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffHow?Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
If it's a fact that every population center needs to go through it once, there wasn't anything Trump could have done. The only important thing in such a case would be protection of the vulnerable populations, which some Dem governors like Whitmer and Cuomo screwed up royally.
Dr Fauci is saying that shit is gonna get really bad.
.
They can both be right. Shit will get very bad where it hasn't before -- including right now where I live, sadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by big dickI REALLY hope you and the women who wrote that article are right but Dr. Fauci disagreesQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Dr Fauci is saying that shit is gonna get really bad.
.
Each area needs to look at its current outbreak situation and assess what to do. Citing "number of cases in the US" is no longer helpful.
To show you how extreme this is, at one point New York had 20 times the new cases as California.
Now California has 10 times the number of new cases as NY!
shit is whack. i'm now going to live my life as I already had this back in February when i had what i thought was some weak cold with some weird phlegm that started a few days after I was at a packed casino for the fury/wilder fight
Says a former professional poker player and internet poker troll forum owner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffQuote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactor
This tweet and the article it links are bullshit.
There was no "colossal failure" to contain the virus. Look at the numbers, and they will show you that every major metropolitan area in the US and most other places will get one and only one bad outbreak, and then it will greatly reduce on its own.
Greater NYC & Seattle already had their big outbreaks, as did Italy, Spain, and Belgium. All of these places are now mild, and other places which were once mild (Los Angeles, Florida, Texas, Arizona, Brazil) are now bad. This, too, shall pass.
The only real "failure in leadership" was the governors and county health officials ordering COVID-19 positive patients into nursing homes. Those officials have blood on their hands. I'll let you guess which party they're part of.
:lol3
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Eric Topol is the Founder and Director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, Professor of Molecular Medicine, and Executive Vice-President of Scripps Research.
As a researcher, he has published over 1200 peer-reviewed articles, with more than 250,000 citations, elected to the National Academy of Medicine, and is one of the top 10 most cited researchers in medicine. His principal scientific focus has been on the genomic and digital tools to individualize medicine—and the power that brings to individuals to drive the future of medicine.
In 2016, Topol was awarded a $207M grant from the NIH to lead a significant part of the Precision Medicine (All of Us) Initiative, a prospective research program is enrolling 1 million participants in the US.
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Topol was commissioned by the UK 2018-2019 to lead planning for the National Health Service’s integration of AI and new technologies.
He has a popular Twitter feed.
yeah but did he publish over 1200 peer-reviewed articles at a loss ???