Time to get on the TRUMP train

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Originally Posted by BetCheckBet

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Dems should not have treated Kennedy like a red headed step child. He will take at least a net 5 points from the Democrat nominee in the General Election.

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Normally yes but much more complicated here. Republicans have a more favourable view of Kennedy than dems. This has been consistent in polling. Truth is he could be responsible for trump losing if he steals enough votes.

Not saying rfk can’t hurt Biden just that it could get really complicated here. Either way definitely by scenario with dems choosing not to challenge Biden

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0% that would happen. It hurts Biden 90% more than it hurts Trump. You are wishcasting. Sprinkle in the Green Party and Never Labels you are looking at a 7% siphon away from Biden. Watch the betting markets shift in the next several weeks. If Trump pick the VA Governor as VP, it probably is a slam dunk. People will just assume Trump will check out after winning and turn things over.

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Originally Posted by tgull

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Originally Posted by BetCheckBet

Normally yes but much more complicated here. Republicans have a more favourable view of Kennedy than dems. This has been consistent in polling. Truth is he could be responsible for trump losing if he steals enough votes.

Not saying rfk can’t hurt Biden just that it could get really complicated here. Either way definitely by scenario with dems choosing not to challenge Biden

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0% that would happen. It hurts Biden 90% more than it hurts Trump. You are wishcasting. Sprinkle in the Green Party and Never Labels you are looking at a 7% siphon away from Biden. Watch the betting markets shift in the next several weeks. If Trump pick the VA Governor as VP, it probably is a slam dunk. People will just assume Trump will check out after winning and turn things over.

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Not saying that that won’t happen. But depending how many republicans rfk can grab there is chance he even beats both Biden and trump. Highly unlikely but with the current political climate it could happen . Wouldn’t be surprised if he runs numbers equal to Ross Perot

I’m still not convinced Biden doesn’t drop out though by Xmas

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Originally Posted by BetCheckBet

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Originally Posted by tgull

0% that would happen. It hurts Biden 90% more than it hurts Trump. You are wishcasting. Sprinkle in the Green Party and Never Labels you are looking at a 7% siphon away from Biden. Watch the betting markets shift in the next several weeks. If Trump pick the VA Governor as VP, it probably is a slam dunk. People will just assume Trump will check out after winning and turn things over.

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Not saying that that won’t happen. But depending how many republicans rfk can grab there is chance he even beats both Biden and trump. Highly unlikely but with the current political climate it could happen . Wouldn’t be surprised if he runs numbers equal to Ross Perot

I’m still not convinced Biden doesn’t drop out though by Xmas

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Conservatives have been kind to Kennedy because he has been highly critical of Biden. But conservatives also know he's an ultra liberal. Conservative agreement with Kennedy on certain issues will not transfer into conservative votes for Kennedy.

https://youtube.com/shorts/QdeEvx2nd...JufDdAN_75-6FW

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https://youtu.be/07xxudYI6sw?si=jfUz4g6VMk_F8fRg


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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts

Do you believe Trump lost in 2020 or the election was stolen from him?

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Yes, the election was stolen by high tech censorship/non reporting by mainstream media of unlawful activities by the Biden Crime Family.

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I wasn't asking you random I was asking Tyde, whose answer I actually care about.

Terrible answer by the way, various words that add up to shit.

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Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Yes, the election was stolen by high tech censorship/non reporting by mainstream media of unlawful activities by the Biden Crime Family.

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I wasn't asking you random I was asking Tyde, whose answer I actually care about.

Terrible answer by the way, various words that add up to shit.

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my answer is that there sure were a lot of cases of inconsistencies and outright voter fraud with mail in ballots all over the country in multiple states

I don’t trust anything the federal government tells me anymore, and I think you’d be a fool to think that ballot harvesting, and flaws in electronic voting machines don’t exist

I can’t come right out and make a sweeping statement saying ‘omg it was rigged’ because I think the whole process is a huge shitshow from start to finish

I do know that 81 million voters didn’t show up to vote for fucking Joe Biden

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Originally Posted by Tyde

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Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts

I wasn't asking you random I was asking Tyde, whose answer I actually care about.

Terrible answer by the way, various words that add up to shit.

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my answer is that there sure were a lot of cases of inconsistencies and outright voter fraud with mail in ballots all over the country in multiple states

I don’t trust anything the federal government tells me anymore, and I think you’d be a fool to think that ballot harvesting, and flaws in electronic voting machines don’t exist

I can’t come right out and make a sweeping statement saying ‘omg it was rigged’ because I think the whole process is a huge shitshow from start to finish

I do know that 81 million voters didn’t show up to vote for fucking Joe Biden

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Dems and Never Trumpers like Tony just don't get that point. I don't mind a card carrying liberal, that is the way they are wired so in some ways I respect their lunacy because they have no choice. It's like being born gay, you are just stuck. But guys like Tony, a one time Republican who was co-opted by the left over Trump are the really the biggest pansies on the planet. Anyone that would sell out their beliefs over one guy's tone is just pathologically weak. Thankfully Tony lives in arguably the most liberal state in the country so his vote is completely meaningless. Same with his opinion with his Chardonnay sipping AOC loving neighbors.

just as I predicted when RFK declared now as an independent.

RCP Betting Averages:

Trump 32.9
Biden 30.3
Newsom 8.4
M Obama 5.5

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TRUMP IS GOD

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Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Yes, the election was stolen by high tech censorship/non reporting by mainstream media of unlawful activities by the Biden Crime Family.

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I wasn't asking you random I was asking Tyde, whose answer I actually care about.

Terrible answer by the way, various words that add up to shit.

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tony bagashit is an alpha retard RINO.

TONY WTF? NEW POLL TODAY!


General Election: Trump vs. Biden The Messenger/HarrisX Trump 45, Biden 42 Trump +3 <----------- Tony, Tony, Tony

Trump CRUSHED it before his hearing this morning laying down the gauntlet and spitting right in their gook faces

THE BOSS

https://youtu.be/-ViAHQ_TP8o?si=p9Jytgq3y3ushL-q

John Kelly, the longest-serving White House chief of staff for Donald Trump, offered his harshest criticism yet of the former president in an exclusive statement to CNN.

Kelly set the record straight with on-the-record confirmation of a number of damning stories about statements Trump made behind closed doors attacking US service members and veterans, listing a number of objectionable comments Kelly witnessed Trump make firsthand.

“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.

“A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,” Kelly continued. “A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason – in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

“There is nothing more that can be said,” Kelly concluded. “God help us.”

In the statement, Kelly is confirming, on the record, a number of details in a 2020 story in The Atlantic by editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg, including Trump turning to Kelly on Memorial Day 2017, as they stood among those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq in Section 60 at Arlington National Cemetery, and saying, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?”

Those details also include Trump’s inability to understand why the American public respects former prisoners of war and those shot down in combat. Then-candidate Trump of course said in front of a crowd in 2015 that former Vietnam POW Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, was “not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” But behind closed doors, sources told Goldberg, this lack of understanding went on to cause Trump to repeatedly call McCain a “loser” and to refer to former President George H. W. Bush, who was also shot down as a Navy pilot in World War II, as a “loser.”

CNN reached out to the Trump campaign Monday afternoon, telling officials there that a former administration official had confirmed, on the record, a number of details about the 2020 Atlantic story, without naming Kelly, and seeking comment. The Trump campaign responded by insulting the character and credibility of retired Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Mark Milley, who had nothing to do with this story.

The Atlantic article also described Trump’s 2018 visit to France for the centennial anniversary of the end of World War I, where, according to several senior staff members, Trump said he did not want to visit the graves of American soldiers buried in the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris because, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” During that same trip to France, the article reported, Trump said the 1,800 US Marines killed in the Belleau Wood were “suckers” for getting killed.

And Kelly’s statement adds context to a story in the book “The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021,” by Susan Glasser and Peter Baker, in which Trump, after a separate trip to France in 2017, tells Kelly he wants no wounded veterans in a military parade he’s trying to have planned in his honor. Inspired by the Bastille Day parade, except for the section of the parade featuring wounded French veterans in wheelchairs, Trump tells Kelly, “Look, I don’t want any wounded guys in the parade.”

“Those are the heroes,” Kelly said. “In our society, there’s only one group of people who are more heroic than they are – and they are buried over in Arlington.”

“I don’t want them,” Trump said. “It doesn’t look good for me.”

The story squares with another recent story from Goldberg in The Atlantic, a profile of retired Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley, in which Trump does not react well to seeing severely wounded Army Captain Luis Avila singing “God Bless America” at a welcome event for the new chairman. “Why do you bring people like that here? No one wants to see that, the wounded.”

Kelly’s statement also refers to a remark Trump made in response to that same article, which describes Milley, in the closing days of the Trump presidency in 2020, receiving intelligence that the Chinese military feared Trump was about to order a military strike on it. Milley, in a call authorized by Trump administration officials, reassured his Chinese counterparts that such a strike was not going to happen.

That call was first reported in 2021 in the book “Peril” by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, but Trump said this past week on his social media site that the call was “an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH.”

Asked for reaction to the suggestion that he deserves execution, Milley told Norah O’Donnell of “60 Minutes” that he wouldn’t “comment directly on those, those things. But I can tell you that this military, this soldier, me, will never turn our back on that Constitution.”

Kelly’s statement to CNN comes days after former Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson sat down with CNN in an interview promoting her new book, “Enough,” and warned the public that “Donald Trump is the most grave threat we will face to our democracy in our lifetime, and potentially in American history.”

“Enough,” interestingly, contains a scene in which Hutchinson and then-White House communications director Alyssa Farah Griffin push back against Goldberg’s 2020 story. Griffin issued a statement to The Atlantic after that story posted denying the report.

Reached for comment over the weekend, Griffin said, “Despite publicly praising the military and claiming to be the most pro-military president, there’s a demonstrable record of Trump bashing the most decorated service members in our country, from Gen. Mattis to Kelly to Milley, to criticizing the wounded or deceased like John McCain. Donald Trump will fundamentally never understand service the way those who have actually served in uniform will, and it’s one of the countless reasons he’s unfit to be commander in chief.”

No other presidential candidate in history has had so many detractors from his inner circle. His former secretary of defense, Mark Esper, told CNN in November 2022, “I think he’s unfit for office. … He puts himself before country. His actions are all about him and not about the country. And then, of course, I believe he has integrity and character issues as well.”

Trump’s former attorney general, Bill Barr, told CBS in June that “he is a consummate narcissist. And he constantly engages in reckless conduct. … He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interests. Our country can’t, you know, can’t be a therapy session for you know, a troubled man like this.”

CNN’s Kristen Holmes contributed to this story.

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Lol at you dumb MAGA retards posting all these national polls 13-14 months out from the election.

fuckin dip shits

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Originally Posted by Tyde

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Way too many big words in there for you anyway.

Oh yeah just in case you fkin Maga IDIOTS didn't realize

MAGA GOT WRECKED IN THE SHUTDOWN BILL

ABSOLUTELY CORNHOLED

jUST LIKE IN 2018 2020 2022 AND SOON TO BE 2024

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Oh yeah just in case you fkin Maga IDIOTS didn't realize

MAGA GOT WRECKED IN THE SHUTDOWN BILL

ABSOLUTELY CORNHOLED

jUST LIKE IN 2018 2020 2022 AND SOON TO BE 2024

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Dude, could you at least educate yourself a little bit on an issue before spouting off your ignorant mouth. But then, you libtard idiots never let the facts get in the way.

MAGA succeeded in getting Ukraine War funding out of the spending bill.