No Anne Wolfe for Kirkland. I'd be stunned if Canelo doesn't beat him down.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
Printable View
No Anne Wolfe for Kirkland. I'd be stunned if Canelo doesn't beat him down.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
Agree. This is the reason I feel he will be destroyed tonight. He seems to be getting second rate training, and in the grand scheme of things, seems fairly stupid. His ring IQ will suffer without her. Shitty game plan most likely, no ability to adjust. Done.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMMNo Anne Wolfe for Kirkland. I'd be stunned if Canelo doesn't beat him down.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
canelo owned him
Damnit Willie!!! Spoiler alert please!Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
Watching Kirkland drop his hands before that KO punch is disturbing. That was a huge KO.
i want to see anne wolfe fight a dude
btw, i thought she was training kirkland for this fight, what happened with that?
That was a video game knockout
Look down but come up.
Holy fuck was that a thing of beauty.
How appropriate is it that after that snoozefest last week by two superstars passed their prime, the next big superstar comes out with that performance.
Just when you totally shit the bed boxing...
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/138...yourself-o.gif
You totally redeem yourself!!!
That was awesome.
She never even got a call. He won't explain why.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
weird, i watched a 24/7 episode half drunk and i thought the whole narrative was he went back to her because he got knocked out when she wasn't in his cornerQuote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369She never even got a call. He won't explain why.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
Jesus christ, the GIF of the KO is disturbing.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
I am a casual boxing fan but find it rattling to see someone get drilled like that.
Post gif here?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...-decision.html
REVEALED: The punch statistics that prove Floyd Mayweather was fortunate to beat Manny Pacquiao by unanimous decision
American website sat its leading commentators down to watch fight again
They decided to tally every punch and came up with startling statistics
Figures suggest the megafight could have been scored 114-114
And it could also be argued that Manny Pacquiao was the clear winner
Floyd Mayweather retained his unbeaten record on unanimous decision
Quote:
One dedicated website in America, Boxing News 24, sat its leading commentators down to monitor the video, first at actual speed, then in slow motion, finally frame by frame.
The task was prompted initially by astonishment at the official fight statistics, which among other anomalies proclaimed that Pacquiao had connected with less than 20 per cent of his total punches and only nine per cent of his jabs.
So they decided to tally every blow and in so doing came up with startling numbers which multiply long-standing doubts about the validity of the punch stats, as well as concerns about the verdict itself.
Quote:
Only by bending over backwards to give Mayweather the benefit of one statistically equal round, by virtue of his higher work rate in those three minutes, and another in which he landed one less punch but would have got the hometown nod could he have achieved even so much as a draw.
Mark that second round 10-10 and the ninth 9-10 and Pacquiao would be their clear winner.
Quote:
According to Boxing News 24, Mayweather threw 471 punches in comparison to Pacquiao's 414
Quote:
It is claimed however, that the American landed only 68 of those 471 punches, 30 fewer than Pacquiao
Quote:
The conclusions here include:
1) The fight was far closer than the judges, especially Moretti, and most pundits perceived
2) Many rounds were exceptionally difficult if not too close to call.
3) The punch stats as counted in the heat of the night are profoundly suspect (one US commentator who had Pacquaio winning asked if they were compiled by ‘kids from the HBO and Showtime offices’ and was told ‘Yes.’)
4) Pacquiao’s claim that he had won the fight was reasonable, not outrageous as the in-ring interviewer implied.
5) If watching on television, maybe better to mute the sound commentary.
6) Mayweather is very wise to keep insisting on home-town advantage in Las Vegas, which benefits from the huge economic impact of his fights.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1377239533.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...1378109458.jpg
Anyone claiming Pacquiao won that fight needs to find another sport.
It wasn't hard to score at all.
And you're obsessed
I'm a big Pac fan and he lost the fight. I would like to believe that his shoulder was the cause of him not throwing as many punches, but who knows if he could have done anything anyway. The only fight I will watch again that has Mayweather in it will have to have Gennady Golovkin or a rematch against Canelo Alvarez. Neither of those things will happen, and I don't enjoy Mayweather fights so no need to watch him.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMM
I like boxing, but when guys like Flyod fight it reminds of when wrestlers in MMA fight. It's only enjoyable for the .01% of the population that enjoys high level wrestling where the angle of your knee on the guys hips is a big deal. It's probably the best strategy and the best way to have a long career (Randy Couture) but it's just not fun... I respect it, but I'm not going to pay to watch... I rather watch 2 115 pound Mexican guys beat each other for 10 rounds.
Floyd doesn't remind me of MMA wrestlers at all.... He's much more athletic, agile, and smart. Watching this fight in slow-mo round by round is pretty cool and should serve as tonic for the non-believers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTG7...AN5yx8aO3xinjo
I'm currently listening to Pablo Casals and watching this fight in slo-mo and the combination is GOD
btw: I only posted the first round; the rest of the rounds are on that same youtube channel
Quote:
Originally Posted by El GalloI'm a big Pac fan and he lost the fight. I would like to believe that his shoulder was the cause of him not throwing as many punches, but who knows if he could have done anything anyway. The only fight I will watch again that has Mayweather in it will have to have Gennady Golovkin or a rematch against Canelo Alvarez. Neither of those things will happen, and I don't enjoy Mayweather fights so no need to watch him.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMM
I like boxing, but when guys like Flyod fight it reminds of when wrestlers in MMA fight. It's only enjoyable for the .01% of the population that enjoys high level wrestling where the angle of your knee on the guys hips is a big deal. It's probably the best strategy and the best way to have a long career (Randy Couture) but it's just not fun... I respect it, but I'm not going to pay to watch... I rather watch 2 115 pound Mexican guys beat each other for 10 rounds.
I watched the replay last Saturday, and imo, you've got to be generous to give Pacquiao 4 rounds. You'd have to be insane to give him 5 or more.
Regarding the shoulder. That injury occurred in 2008. He fought 12 different guys with this "bum" shoulder. And suddenly after Mayweather, it's too bad to continue without surgery. Floyd said something in the Jim Gray interview that I think was spot on. Manny looked like a defeated fighter. He looked embarrassed.
I mean all the time they were calling Floyd scared, a chicken, a coward. Manny was saying he was more worried about Cotto and Margarito than Floyd. Mayweather stayed quiet and trained, while Pacquiao was taking selfies and doing commercials. Then he was barely even competitive against Mayweather, and they needed a way out. So they used a 6 year old shoulder injury as an excuse.
They claim to have re-aggravated the shoulder in round 3. Manny never mentioned it to his corner. He never favored it during the fight. And he had NO trouble throwing right hands with conviction. Check out round 8. He was swinging that right hook to try and take Mayweather's head off. He just couldn't land it.
There's obviously a shoulder injury, but it didn't play a factor in the fight.
Mayweather, Pacquiao already negotiating rematch
http://pagesix.com/2015/05/13/maywea...ating-rematch/
Quote:
The rematch is on. Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao made so much money on their recent bout, they want to do it again.
The May 2 fight attracted celeb fans from Beyoncé to Drew Barrymore, Michael Jordan to Justin Bieber. Although the fight was a snooze, and Pacquiao is recovering from shoulder surgery, sources say Showtime, HBO, Bob Arum and all the other parties to the record-breaking $600 million event are ready for more.
“It’s already being negotiated,” a source told me. Pacquiao needs four months of rehab post-surgery, and three months to train. “The fight will be the first event at the under-construction MGM–AEG Arena set to open next year.”
All the parties involved deny talks are under way, but I’m told Pacquiao wants redemption. “He feels he fought with only one arm,” said one insider.
Mayweather will do it for the money.
It’s like Hollywood. When a movie makes that much profit, there has to be a sequel.
While the first fight took more than five years to come together, all the pieces already are in place for the do-over.
Mayweather and Pacquiao are well past their prime and after this fight they should both retire.
http://media.emirates247.com/images/...=120&height=75
as far as the shoulder, I tore mine 30 years ago. I hurts all the time...sometimes, its minor pain. I slept on it wrong this past weekend...I cant even lift it and Im in tremendous pain, as it wont go back into the right spot and its preventing me from sleep. Dont think that the pain is always the same. I've had this for 4 days now and there is no way I could throw a solid punch right now. I could have before. Total fluke, but things just arent in the right place .
Yeah, I can understand that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
My issue is that he fought 12 guys with that injury. No one ever mentioned the shoulder.
Roach never asked how it was feeling between rounds. Manny never complained about pain. They never rubbed it, tried to loosen it. He never favored it during the fight. I don't even think he mentioned it in the post fight interview.
It's like they went back to the locker room, came up with an excuse, and have been riding with it ever since.
I agree, except that he had surgery immediately after the fight. Unless they exaggerated how major the surgery was, that would seem to be the thing that legitimizes the excuse. You're right that his shoulder didn't seem hurt during the fight, though. He threw at least a couple hundred fewer punches than expected, but that was definitely partly due to the counters he kept eating whenever he punched. Overall, I say fuck him. Floyd ain't losing to that guy no matter how healthy his shoulders are. Just like we were saying all along.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMMYeah, I can understand that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
My issue is that he fought 12 guys with that injury. No one ever mentioned the shoulder.
Roach never asked how it was feeling between rounds. Manny never complained about pain. They never rubbed it, tried to loosen it. He never favored it during the fight. I don't even think he mentioned it in the post fight interview.
It's like they went back to the locker room, came up with an excuse, and have been riding with it ever since.
Getting the surgery is an easy decision if it helps get another $100 million pay day. Probably wasn't necessary, just like it hasn't been necessary for the last 12 years. It's just playing into the excuse.
Shoulder injury, no shoulder injury, who cares. These guys could fight another 20 times and it will still be the same outcome, and the same boring ass fight. Pac can't KO anyone anymore, and Floyd is Floyd, he won't suddenly decide to mix it up and make this more exciting if they fight again. His 0 is way too important. Another fight between these two would just be another black eye for boxing IMO.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMM
lol wow holy shit
is JMM still massaging Mayweather's nutbag ?
dude we get it, you don't like Pacquiao, and you love wife beating n-word pieces of shit
Respect for knowing boxing better than anyone on this forum, but I'm surprised at how you are worshiping this clown as a legendary fighter.
One thing is certain, his legacy long after he is finished with boxing, will be as a fucking POS...not as a champion
anyway, carry on gargling his testicles bro
No, you're apparently just too fucking stupid to grasp the fact that I call things as I see it. I don't hate Pacquiao. I'm not some blind Mayweather fanboy. I'm just having a conversation. I don't give a fuck if you agree or not. But until you bring something to the conversaton other than your played out bullshit, stay the fuck out of it. There's a reason you just stoop to insults instead of trying to debate it with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TydeQuote:
Originally Posted by JMM
lol wow holy shit
is JMM still massaging Mayweather's nutbag ?
dude we get it, you don't like Pacquiao, and you love wife beating n-word pieces of shit
Respect for knowing boxing better than anyone on this forum, but I'm surprised at how you are worshiping this clown as a legendary fighter.
One thing is certain, his legacy long after he is finished with boxing, will be as a fucking POS...not as a champion
anyway, carry on gargling his testicles bro
Anytime someone doesn't share your opinion you attack them with some of the dumbest goddamn insults imaginable.
You're a grown man. Act like it.
Oh I agree completely. I said a few pages back. I 100% believe that there was an injury. But I don't believe it determined the outcome of the fIght.Quote:
Originally Posted by HEX
He wasn't his normal aggressive self. But like you said, he ate counters. Floyd also threw the right hand just about every time he thought Manny was coming in. And he really had Manny out of range for most of the fight. We've seen it over and over. Mayweather takes a guys workrate and cuts it in half.
Exactly. That's why I think it's hilarious that people are pissed off because the fight lacked excitement. It's like they've never seen either guy fight. Manny needs guys to bring the fight to him, or stay in one place so he can get off. Floyd isn't that guy. He's gonna move, counter and make guys fight his fight. I really think all the crying about this fight, is just because this is the guy that was supposed to beat Mayweather. Then he wasn't even that competitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
People accuse Mayweather of cherry picking his opponents. And if they fight a rematch, that's exactly what it'll be. They can sew on an extra shoulder and Manny won't win. The shoulder gives them a way to sell the rematch. But they're just setting people up for disappointment.
The official fight statistics "Compubox" numbers were way off, they are probably compiled by ‘kids from the HBO and Showtime offices’.
They said that Pacquiao had connected with less than 20 percent of his total punches and only 9 percent of his jabs.
Which was total bullshit.
Mayweather landed fewer punches than Pacquiao.
How can Mayweather dominate a fight by landing fewer punches than his opponent?
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/ar...650&h=434&q=85
You're full of shit. Pacquiao didn't land more punches, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactor
But the compubox numbers are bullshit.
And you also can't just look at a total number of punches and say "so and so won." Boxing is scored in rounds. 12 individual fights. Not one lump sum.
Either way. The fight was easy to score the first time. Easier to score on the replay. You can't find 7 rounds to give to Pacquiao unless you're being completely biased in his favor. He lost the fight. He'll lose the rematch. Move on.
If you watched that fight and somehow thought Pac won, you should either get your eyes checked, or stop watching boxing.
I say this as someone who was hoping and praying Pac would win. Hell, I even had a dream that he won with a left hook to the kidney followed by an uppercut to the jaw. Unfortunately none of that came true, and he clearly lost.
Pacquiao could have taken more chances in the fight, he should've hit Mayweather with some punches to the kidneys and try to foul him, take out his legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMM
Mayweather is a good actor and the punches he threw looked more impressive to the judges than the punches Pacquiao threw.
Actually, both fighters won, they each got paid over $100 million for a fight that should have taken place 5 years ago.
The boxing fans and people who paid $100 to watch this fight lost.
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/201...anny-thumb.jpg
I'm not racist, but how is this n-word not banned?
GGG fighting in t-minus 2 hrs.
Also, a boxing hype video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLXcgZ84ndk
ROMAN GONZALEZ IS GOD
Just finished watching GGG-Monroe. Pretty good fight. GGG was definitely getting tagged in rounds 4-5 though, although I guess Monroe has no power so there was no danger. This fight really makes we wonder if he could beat Floyd, as Floyd would be tagging him at will while he was walking Floyd down, and then the question is can he actually do damage when he finally gets Floyd in the corner.
Of course, if you are a conspiracy theorist you could wonder if he was letting Monroe hit him on purpose, to give the illusion he was beatable by someone with better defense. Again, GGG looked a lot smaller than his opponent, but the pre fight weigh in said he was 170, so I guess he is a legitimate middleweight and he doesn't look like it cause he doesn't have a natural mesomorph physique.
can someone post a gif of the KO? Or video highlights?
TIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyoA5ldaw7IQuote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yuStfQ-lgE
3 excellent fights on HBO since the snooze fest.
A star is born with Chocolito. That's what 43-0 is supposed to look like. I'll watch every one of his fights now.
GGG adoring himself to the Mexican fans is one of the greatest things I have ever seen. A guy from Kazakhstan becoming an American and Mexican boxing icon. Love this guy. Canello would be insane to fight him anytime in the next 2 years.
LOL @ Floyd ever fighting him. Never gonna happen.
Agree on all. Though, GGG would be wise to not let Canelo hit him the way Monroe did. I think his defense is better than he displayed, though. Monroe didn't have the power to earn his respect, so he could just walk through the punches and get to him quicker.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
Floyd GGG isn't ever happening. Floyd isn't going to 160. People will say he drained GGG if it's at 154. Too much risk. I think GGG could get Floyd to the ropes. He's soooooo good at cutting the ring off. The question would be, like verminaard said, is can he land when he's there? I don't imagine he'd have to land much. Mayweather has a great chin, but GGG power is nothing to fuck with. A good shot to the chin puts Mayweather down.
Have to think Canelo/Cotto is next, assuming Cotto beats Geale (which isn't a given). So it'd be next year at the earliest for Canelo/GGG. Lara says he'll fight GGG. I'd like to see how long he lasts. With his movement and counter punching, he'd at least make GGG work for it.
Choclatito. Holy shit. Crazy thing is, Sosa is no pushover. He's a good fighter in his own right, despite being well past prime. Gonzalez went right thru him.