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Originally Posted by El Gallo
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That's probably the most honorable way ever to kill yourself ever. I've never heard of that. Before I always chalked up people that did that as crazy or suicidal. I never thought of them as good people sacrificing their life for the good of their family.Quote:
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Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
there are plenty of cases where people hope to get shot, and whether they die or not is irrelevant. They are trying to get money for their family.
Charge at a cop with your hand hidden, holding a cell phone or dildo, get shot, lawyer sues saying guy was unarmed, family gets $$$$$$$.
It seems like that would be a tough thing to prove though.
You would be surprised at how many people grab a weapon, run at police and yell SHOOT ME.
Suicide by cop. Happens often.
think about how that would affect a cop, who really doesnt want to, and probably never has, fired his gun at a human.
I'm aware that suicide by cop happens often. I never once put it together that these people were looking out for their families.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
And I meant tough to prove they were trying to get their families paid. Not tough to prove they wanted to get shot.
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Originally Posted by Brittney Griner's ClitI'm aware that suicide by cop happens often. I never once put it together that these people were looking out for their families.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
A local cop here just ate a bullet (I posted about it last week). He had his assets frozen for the 2nd time (1st time took 3 years) and he needed the money for his kids for college. Rather than endure the bullshit all over again, and it was going to be even worse, as the attorney who initially lost the first time, reopened it and wanted more money this time, the cop just shot himself so his money is freed up for the kids to use for tuition.
I dont know the details yet, but apparently there were some potentially shady issues here several years ago, in Chicago (news came out yesterday) where an attorney allegedly didnt provide evidence to the defense. City Lawyer was found guilty of this and quickly resigned.
The floodgates that are about to get opened will be ridiculous. Imagine how many cases, that were tried by this guy, are about to get reopened by attorneys, and retried.
Holy shit this town...
I've not read a single page of this thread and no idea if this article is relevant to the general discussion.
But...
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/n...ted?CMP=twt_tc
edit: easier to read using the link.
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What is The Counted?
The Counted is a project by the Guardian – and you – working to count the number of people killed by police and other law enforcement agencies in the United States throughout 2015, to monitor their demographics and to tell the stories of how they died.
The database will combine Guardian reporting with verified crowdsourced information to build a more comprehensive record of such fatalities. The Counted is the most thorough public accounting for deadly use of force in the US, but it will operate as an imperfect work in progress – and will be updated by Guardian reporters and interactive journalists as frequently and as promptly as possible.
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Contributions of any information that may improve the quality of our data will be greatly welcomed as we work from a dearth of available information toward better accountability. Please contact us to pass on tips, links and multimedia as well as new information on existing cases already recorded.
It is reported by Jon Swaine, Oliver Laughland and Jamiles Lartey. It is designed and produced by Kenan Davis, Rich Harris, Nadja Popovich and Kenton Powell.
Why is this necessary?
The US government has no comprehensive record of the number of people killed by law enforcement. This lack of basic data has been glaring amid the protests, riots and worldwide debate set in motion by the fatal police shooting of Michael Brown, an unarmed 18-year-old, in Ferguson, Missouri, in August 2014.
Before stepping down as US attorney general earlier this year, Eric Holder described the prevailing situation on data collection as “unacceptable”.
The Guardian agrees with those analysts, campaign groups, activists and authorities who argue that such accounting is a prerequisite for an informed public discussion about the use of force by police.
How does the US government count killings by police now?
The FBI runs a voluntary program through which law enforcement agencies may or may not choose to submit their annual count of “justifiable homicides”, which it defines as “the killing of a felon in the line of duty”.
This system is arguably less valuable than having no system at all: fluctuations in the number of agencies choosing to report figures, plus faulty reporting by agencies that do report, have resulted in partially informed news coverage pointing misleadingly to trends that may or may not exist.
“We lack the ability right now to comprehensively track the number of incidents. ... Fixing this is an idea that we should all be able to unite behind.”
–Eric Holder
Between 2005 and 2012 just 1,100 police departments – a fraction of America’s 18,000 police agencies – reported a “justifiable homicide” to the FBI.
The FBI system counted 461 justifiable homicides by law enforcement in 2013, the latest year for which data is available. Crowdsourced counts found almost 300 additional fatalities during that year. The Counted, upon its launch on June 1, 2015, had already found close to that number of killings in just the first five months of this year.
How does the Guardian count police fatalities?
So far, we count with traditional reporting on police reports and witness statements, by monitoring regional news outlets, research groups and open-source reporting projects such as the websites Fatal Encounters and Killed by Police.
But our intention is to progress to a verified crowdsourced system. We want you to inform us as soon as possible if you witness a killing by law enforcement officers or learn of one that has taken place. We want to hear from you if you have further information about a case already included in The Counted.
What should I do if I have more information on a death that has already been recorded, or find an error?
We welcome all contributions of information that may improve the quality of our data. The Counted is a comprehensive and ongoing process of verification, as we continue to work from an inaccurate standard toward a more perfect standard. Please pass on your information as soon as possible.
How can you join the community?
You can talk to us in several ways. We want to hear from you.
• Click the “Send us a tip” tab to submit your information, along with video footage, photographs or any other supporting documentation.
• Email us at thecounted@theguardian.com
• Contact us confidentially using our public PGP key
• Send us your files anonymously via our SecureDrop system
• Join our new Facebook community
• Tweet us: @thecounted
The Guardian has started a special Facebook community for The Counted, where you can follow the progress of the project. It's designed to be an open space where people who have information that may help inform our reporting can share it with Guardian journalists.
We will be using The Counted on Facebook to share details from our own reporting and from other news outlets on police killings, to discuss the issues involved and to contact people involved with or connected to incidents.
What is included in The Counted?
Any deaths arising directly from encounters with law enforcement. This will inevitably include, but will likely not be limited to, people who were shot, tasered and struck by police vehicles as well those who died in police custody.
What is not included in The Counted?
Self-inflicted deaths during encounters with law enforcement. For instance, a person who died by crashing his or her vehicle into an oncoming car while fleeing from police at high speed is not regarded by the Guardian’s database to have been killed by law enforcement.
The database does not include suicides or self-inflicted deaths including drug overdoses in police custody or detention facilities. Other crowdsourced counts do include some such deaths.
In mass shootout incidents, like the one in Waco, Texas, where police have failed to identify those who were killed by law enforcement and those killed by civilian gunfire, the Guardian has been unable to log individuals in the database. We will make every effort to include this information when more details are provided.
At present, the Guardian is collecting data on those killed by police specifically in 2015.
How does the Guardian define ‘armed’ and ‘unarmed’?
This information is difficult to verify because often the only information available comes directly from law enforcement officials. In some cases, friends and relatives of people killed will dispute this official account. For The Counted, we use the term “armed” to express the nature of the threat perceived by law enforcement. This means, for example, that “vehicle” will appear under the category of “armed” if the person was trying to use it as a weapon.
Similarly, a person who is found to have had a weapon in his or her possession that he or she did not attempt to use, or which is discovered only after that person has been killed, would be categorised here as unarmed. Freddie Gray, who was found to have a knife in his pocket after being arrested by police in Baltimore in April, would be one such example.
In cases where multiple witnesses offered a credible alternative story to the official account of whether a person was armed, we have labelled the case “disputed” pending the conclusions of investigations.
The category “Other” contains any item other than a firearm, knife or vehicle which police have described as a threat. This includes “non-powder” projectile weapons such as BB guns and airsoft rifles, as well as machetes, swords and blunt instruments.
How has the Guardian determined the race/ethnicity of people killed?
In order to provide a resource that can help contribute to ongoing national conversations about race and policing, the Guardian has made every effort to find and express a race/ethnicity for all the individuals represented in the database.
This information has been obtained from all available sources including police and coroners’ reports, voter registration data, witness testimony, court records and photographs. These will occasionally prove inaccurate. If you know of more accurate information, please contact us as soon possible.
Historically, The Guardian has been biased and has had a major hard on for writing about the Chicago police, including their "BLACK OPS/TORTURE SITE" (its a former warehouse where they do several things: assemble for undercover operations, hold stolen property, hold inventory and have a gym. Its not a fully equipped site, so when people end up being taken there, they cant fully process them, if necessary, so they have to then physically bring the person over to a nearby facility where they have some special computer system set up. That is read by the guardian as "They took people there and have no record of them being there, and arent allowed to talk to their lawyers". Its usually rumors being spread by defense attorneys trying to look for a way to get their clients arrests tossed, or some way to sue the city for some trumped up violation of rights.
I dont pay them any mind.
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Hmmmm, I'm having a really hard time thinking of anyone else who fits that description...
Waiting for you to not be such an enormous pussy, Corrigan. Bet me the $20 on VanDyk. Escrow with Druff.
4 more homicides last night. On pace for over 700. 2015 was 499, with 1 still pending.
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what that we have a broken justice system that will let a crooked donk cop off? wow you're really going out on a limb with that $20
body count just went up by 2 for 2015, so the official count is now 501. Congrats Chicago!
Also, 2016 is off to a RECORD PACE of 2 homicides/day. 5 more shot today, with 1 in critical, but the night is young.
This is from a cop on that Police Blog you guys love me quoting:
"Guys, this is the policing model that the majority of citizens want in Chicago. The politicians are merely bowing to the wishes of the public. The public doesn't want us to be aggressive, even when some of them say they want us to be.
When the people are truly ready for change, the politicians will bow to the public and all of a sudden become law-and-order tough on crime candidates.
But I don't see that happening. Not with so much of the city now a ghetto, and a sanctuary city at that. No one wants laws enforced, no one wants us aggressively taking the fight for public safety to the gangs. How many known gang members now reside in Chicago, 100,000? Add to that number the friends and family of gang members, and the people who just have a problem with the Police, and you can see we are hopelessly outnumbered.
Right now, the majority electorate of the city, including illegals voting illegally, is comprised of a coalition of ghetto dwellers and north side liberals, the Gold Coast denizens in LaLa Land and the cafe afficianados/baristas/"students". None of whom are fans of yours. Or at least not enough of them to make a difference.
Act accordingly. Particularly you guys in ghetto districts. Let your hard work and sacrifices be not in vain, for the inhabitants of the particular corner of urban jungle to which you are assigned do not love you nor appreciate your efforts.
If they did, they would cooperate much more willingly. A community supporting and cooperating with its law enforcement would make the city's neighborhoods too hot for any gang members. But we all know this not to be the case.
Act accordingly. We took oaths, but those oaths are dependent upon a certain degree of trust and support from the people. When that is not forthcoming, when one party breaks its part of the deal, then we are absolved.
Right now, we are or should be merely mercenaries, hired to make reports and go through the motions. Most of the guys I see, we are professional but our hearts are no longer in this. Just marking time, almost like a prison sentence, counting the days to retirement.
And please, no one bring up that pendulum swinging back in our direction. The damned libtards broke the thing off. There is no more pendulum.
This city has some amazing sights and features, but unless certain policies can be reversed, such as catering to the welfare class/voter and this sanctuary city nonsense, then I'm afraid it must all be abandoned by decent working people. There is no other way.
Would that I were wrong."
Serious question - why are cops the biggest cry babies? Take off your diaper and do your fucking job
bonus points for that cop using "libtard"
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Originally Posted by Corrigan
I agree he will probably get off.
Cops are never convicted for murder no matter the circumstance. Nothing to do with the facts of the case.
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Originally Posted by Corrigan
THEY CANT DO THEIR FUCKING JOB, YOU FUCKING IDIOT!
Thats the problem
DO YOUR JOB!!
Except, dont shoot your gun, use a taser that wont work half the time (one failed last night, against a dude who fortunately had a fake gun), dont drive off in a car unless all your cameras and microphones are working, but you better not complain that your cameras and mics arent working, go write up tickets because you ave a secret quota, only you dont have a secret quota...we just wont give you overtime or easier assignments, go stop people on the street if you suspect them of doing something illegal, only, dont stop them anymore because you need a really good reason to do so, and also, whenever you stop someone, you now have to do double the amount of work, which is overkill, and hand them this card that has your name, badge # and a phone number to call should you not like something about this cop.
Protect us, but dont come into our neighborhood. Get the crime out of our neighborhood, but dont stop anyone, dont talk to anyone, and dont drive around here or we will throw shit at you and possibly shoot at your car.
Stop these looters, only you cant follow them because you saw their social media post that says that they are going to loot a store at 2pm on Michigan ave, because our laywers will sue the city for racial profiling. Dont fight back against someone that hits you, because we will sue the city saying you hit him.
HELP US!.....But, FUCK YOU!
THAT, CORRIGAN, is the fucking problem. All the taxes are going up, the city has no money to pay for shit, aldermen are lying their asses off so they can keep their money coming in and make the cops look bad. Rahm is blaming shit on everyone but his own inability to run this city, the city attorney's may have even fucked something up recently by allegedly hiding some evidence, so now a shit load of cases are going to get reopened, and the city sued some more. People who get shot will continue to head to the hospitals for free care (taxpayers cover all that shit), and we wont see ANYONE on the southside taking accountability for their own actions. Blame the cops. Blame the Mayor. Blame whitey. Its a fucking disaster.
Cops cant wait to retire. They are already short a ton of cops, and now more and more want to leave, and they cant replace them because no one wants to be a cop. Burglaries are up year to year almost double by Wrigley Field. The amount of back log on calls is way up. That means, people are calling for police, but they are all busy; on calls, waiting for their shitty cameras/microphones to be repaired, stuck doing redundant paperwork, etc. Newspapers are all putting shit out there to make the cops look bad and to get you to buy their papers, the public is uneducated on laws so they believe any bullshit that gets printed, city attorneys dont fight for anything and just pay out for any lawsuits, giving away hundreds of millions of dollars. The blacks were even protesting the Chicago FIRE DEPT today. They want more jobs for blacks. They are saying its racism. Dont bother to include the possibility that they just couldnt pass the test. Hell, the CPD would LOVE to hire minorities. They cant find any that pass or want to be a cop. Based on what is happening, hell, they would make commander in 6 months at the rate they are promoting minorities for...well, I have no fucking clue why they are promoting some of the people they have promoted. They passed up people with massive amounts of experience and seniority, and promoted people who were there 6 months. Makes no fucking sense, except LOL Chicago. The CPD doesnt have a spokesperson doing a god damn thing, and the head of FOP is likely in Rahms pocket. fucking blows. IL is 3rd highest in the country right now for the amount of people GTFO of town.
no solution in sight
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Originally Posted by Corrigan
You are completely wrong, and there are stats to prove it.
http://listverse.com/2015/04/04/10-c...-line-of-duty/
If you think that LaQuan was murdered by VanDyk, escrow with Druff.
If the trial is in Chicago, and a democratic judge is ruling the case, you have a very good chance.
If the trial is moved out of the city, to a neutral site, i have a good chance.
Hell, even the cop down in texas just got indicted (how in the fuck that happened is absurd), so yes, cops get convicted by juries of doing something wrong all the time.
Cops shot and killed 8 people in all of Chicago last year. 8 fucking "people" (some were fucking savages, armed to the gills with weapons).
a SHIT LOAD of gang bangers in this city
and everyone wants to point their fingers at trigger happy cops, goin around shootin everyone up. jesus....
http://nypost.com/2016/01/02/myth-of...ling-epidemic/
seriously though thank you chicago for somehow corralling a ton of the blacks into your area so we dont have to deal with them also dork star you deserve an a for effort but youre never convincing these idiots go watch some sick jam bands on youtube