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Yes, did receive $250 from "Fat Kid Foods".
Presumably this is a new Jasep Paypal because his old one from 2013 got suspended for scamming.
attempt. what.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAS
pay back what you stole before saying shit like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAS
only 47 monthly payments to go.
jasep, if you really have changed why are you still faking serious illness?
lol hospital socks
If JAS don't pay up then Uncle Phil will come out of his grave and throw him the fuck out:
http://geo.static.traxsource.com/fil...9109_large.jpg
Didn't JAS commit fraud against his baby mama?
Sort of feel like the new pof 5 should know what kind of scumbag she is dealing with
Listen up- You cannot pay back what you don't have. BE PROFITABLE. You can pay back $100 right now, right out of the till, or you can get table 7 their sliders, 2 more pitchers of beer, pay back $100 that they pay you and KEEP the $100 in the till. ITS BEEN 50 MINUTES, HOW MUCH LONGER DO YOU THINK TABLE 7'S $100 IS GOING TO WAIT?
YOU'VE LOST YOUR PASSION, AND IF YOU KEEP THIS UP YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE YOUR BAR.
Just go with this absurd scenario. Say Jasep pays. Where is the money going? Wasn't 22q actually given more than they would have gotten? Project Jasep obviously paid off first. Then what? PFA free roll Masters 2017?
We know from the poker room & belly buster who gave what, or at least a large portion of it. Everyone gets their stolen donations back, I would assume.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
IMO he should pay back the investors and his business debts.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
22q can go to hell. They are definitely shady and not required to be paid up. But that's my opinion
Hello,
I am writing everyone to come clean about some of the things you have read online about me and attempt to rectify the situation.
First let me say this, I do not feel like I am a bad person, but that is not important as I have done some bad things in my life and now I want to rectify those things and right my wrongs if possible. For years I have had a crippling gambling addiction that I have hidden from everyone in my life. I have become very good at hiding my actions and being dishonest and deceitful to people who love and trust me. I thought I had my addiction under control and hadn’t gambled a lot in recent years, but my exposure to the internet poker community, recreational gambling and access to money triggered my problem and as I began gambling again I also found myself in wholes that I continued to press to try to get out of.
I never intended to hurt anyone and my intentions were always to right everything but I realize that was my mind being clouded by my addiction. I first want to apologize to everyone affected. I took advantage of peoples trust and used that to enable my own disgusting habit. I hate the person that I became and I want to make sure that I provide the proper restitution and move on in my life and seek the treatment that I need to make sure I become the person that I want to be instead of a person that cannot look himself in the mirror or sleep at night.
I thought that I had explanation for some of the things that have been said about me, but I now realize that it is most likely me justifying my poor decisions and convincing myself that I wasn’t in the wrong, while in the back of my mind I always knew what I was doing was wrong all along.
The email that I am sending this from is one that will be checked at least once a day and I will provide a new phone number to everyone as soon as I get one. I will respond to everyone through those channels. I don’t want to hide and run from anything, I would rather take responsibility for the things I have done and provide a solution.
.- I will pay everyone everything that I owe them with interest.
– I will be entering a treatment program
I have begun the process of seeking employment. Until my debts are made good then all of my money will go toward making them good. I have downsized my life incredibly and my cost of living is at a minimum right now. I am hoping to have all debts paid off as soon as possible, it may take me 6-9 months but I assure everyone that I will make constant and consistent payments to ensure everyone is made whole. Until I have a job, my job will be to get a job.
Right now I have outstanding debts of $12,200.00. I would like the opportunity to prove that I intend to make everything right. I am willing to pay 10% interest to everyone who I have wronged. That leaves a total debt of $13,420.00. I am happy to be in regular contact with anyone that I owe money to and work to make things right.
The only thing that I ask is that you leave my family and friends alone and deal with me directly; I promise to make return contact with anyone within 24 hours of contacting me. I do not currently have constant internet access but I will have daily access to the internet as well as a phone that will be available to anyone 24/7 within a week.
I will make equal shared payments to everyone that I owe money to on a weekly or biweekly basis (depending on my pay schedule) until everyone is made whole.
Please do not take my absence from internet forums as a sign that I am not taking ownership of my mistakes, I just feel that it will not be helpful in my correcting everything to spend hours focusing on radio shows or forums instead of working to get everything squared away.
I truly apologize for my actions and I hope that even though everyone hates me right now that my actions moving forward will speak to the kind of person I am trying to become.
-Johnny Sep
If he is for real, which there is about a .01% chance of that, then interest needs to be tacked on here. I would say a minimum of 12%.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdogIMO he should pay back the investors and his business debts.Quote:
Originally Posted by jsearles22
What's right is right.
Going back to the OP, again, this just falls in line with the same old "woe is me, I had a disease, I am better now, I am going to make things right" speech. This is typical of someone who is completely full of shit. Long winded "let me try to convince everyone I am sincere" type of crap. Seen it a thousand + times. Had he actually felt bad about stealing from us and a charity all this time and planned to pay it back, obv it would not have taken him being outed to come forward. There is no fucking way we can trust even an inkling of what this guy is saying here. He was outed, and now he is trying to come up with ways to stall. End of story.
There needs to be actual legal proof he is sincere, he can have no escape from this whatsoever. What he is suggesting still leaves the ball in his court. I say give him till Wednesday to present to Druff a notarized LOI along with ID and SS. I'd also like to see a video taped confession to go along with all that. That's at least a start.
You want to make things right Jasep, you have to completely throw yourself on the mercy of this site to the point where if you do decide to run and hide again there will be serious legal repercussions. You can have ZERO outs here.
boom.
First some thoughts and then some general ideas imo about the best way to proceed from here.
As much as I want to believe in redemption and all that, I am totally with the camp of "he never would have showed up here if we didn't force his hand"
With that said though, I would like to think even if it's just a small percentage of a chance for him to put this past him and make something of his life, I hope he is able to. People have done much worse things and I'm just talking in poker. It is true, his actions from this point will define the man he is. I mentioned this in a prior post. The amount of money he owes is so small (relative to life) I just cant fathom it being worth it to him to disappear again knowing he will once again eventually be found and any new employment, relationships, friends he makes will in his always exist the inevitable wrath of this forum.
This guy was my friend. I spent a lot of hours on the phone with him. I like him. I cared about him. He had me totally fooled from day 1. I hold a shit load of hostility still but I am of the thought that if he does what he says we will do, than of course he should be left alone and free to try to make some semblance of his life. Again at the same time knowing if he dodges this, the wrath will be much stronger.
OK lets admit it is going to be close to impossible to repay everyone exactly who got rolled, but there is a fair and honorable way that we can.
JASEP OWES
1) money to 22q...i think everyone will agree 22q benefited by his theft ironically. Malmuth among others donated far more than he stole. 22Q should get nothing
1A) everyone who donated to jasep via paypal to 22q (this includes pfa members, non members such as my gf's family, kevins family etc)
1B) everyone who donated via paypal to jasep their poker cashouts with the intentions of going to 22q
1C) those who dontated via A or B.; Some of these people we cant find, they were anonymous, or are no longer on the forums. That money should be paid to a charity (selected by the majority) as I feel since that was the original intention, that's where it should go.
BAP
1) Simple research in the BAP thread will give us all the numbers that is owed.
Paying out.
1) I think it is a good idea for druff to receive and hold in escrow.
2) I think we should appoint/nominate someone different as the trustee and committee to make the payouts (crowe, serious, simpdog, china etc)
3) The committee should have been involved in vpr, 22q etc and of course be trusted.
4) The trustee and committee can decide each money where it is best suited to send the money and of course be transparent about it.
If anyone on the record of donating to either jasep directly or for his BAP is experiencing financial hardships, they should of course be paid first.
Otherwise, much like ftp, lets have druff receive the payments, send the money to the trustee, and then the trustee and committee can decide how to best disperse the funds.
Thoughts? Suggestions? Comments?
Druff could you please start a Jasep repayment thread that will serve as ONLY FOR people to list debts against jasep for 22q and bap as well as show transparently who is getting paid. Also please add a sticky...thread shouldnt be a trolling thread, a commentary about Chef Juan etc....just a transparent way to make all the info public to the community
Thank you
ZOD
Vegas..... I can appreciate your looking for some sort of "legal agreement" here, do you really think that's going to matter here? You guys need leverage. The leverage is you know who he is, where he is, what he does for work.... Etc.
Is it worth the $250ish dollars a month to keep his life together? Probably. That's your leverage.
You start asking for legal ish or more money your baiting this guy to run.
Good luck - hope you guys get repaid.
I agree, but I also think since we've been down this road before, which was a total fail, there needs to be some actual legal leverage here as well. This was the best I could come up with. Had he come forward on his own without being outed I would give him a lot more credit, but the fact that he continues to lie and put out these long winded speeches is infuriating.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Drexel
I think I donated $125 to 22q poker room. I'd like to get paid first if the other posters don't mind.
TIA
:lol2
Chef Juan returns. Your girl is fucking ugly, bro.
I'm not going to re read his OP, once was enough... But why is it that while he was working all last summer at (we all know where) he didn't come forward and offer to make things right? You know, since he's felt so bad about this all this time... Oh, that's right, cause he wasn't outed yet. But yeah, he was definitely going to do it THIS summer.
It's shit like that- that makes his lies as transparent as it gets.
I actually do hope he does turn things around. Like Drexel I actually liked this guy and talked to him on the phone from time to time, but in the end I have no sympathy whatsoever for someone who lies about having cancer, steals from a charity, steals from us, then continues to play the "I was a victim of a disease" role 2.5 years later after he realizes he is screwed if he doesn't somehow face the music. Especially considering he wrote pretty much the exact same bullshit when he was caught the first time. Man the fuck up mother fucker. Don't come here with these long winded bullshit excuses when your options have run dry, then ask for time to make things right. Put yourself on the hook for real if you really mean what you say. Your employers contact info (which we already have) and your cell number plus $250 to obv buy time doesn't cut it IMO.
Make it a legal binding agreement, period. This is not rocket science or asking for too much here, this is typical of any money owed arrangement and should have been suggested by Jasep from the beginning. Anything else is not acceptable. In fact, the whole song and dance blog in the OP is just more proof that he is completely full of shit. This could have been very simple.
http://www.wikihow.com/Write-a-Legal...for-Money-Owed
This is what he should have said if he is being truthful...
Dear PFA,
I fucked up and am going to make it right. I would tell you all about my addictions of the past, but I know it is a waste of time for all of us as I have made these same claims 2.5 years ago and never followed through on payment. I have arranged with Druff for a legal binding agreement to pay you all back within X amount of time.
I will let my actions speak for themselves.
Thank you.
Bro, you got a lot of pent up rage here. How much did our Juan scam you out of. Please don't lol us and say zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
I gave him $100. I couldn't care less about that though, consider my $100 if he ever pays it back a freeroll donation.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohBro, you got a lot of pent up rage here. How much did our Juan scam you out of. Please don't lol us and say zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
To me it's more about having been down this road plenty of times before with people I have known and cared about, and seen the exact type of behavior. When you've been fucked over enough in life by people you thought were friends who took advantage of your generosity, it's shit like this that just gets under your skin in a big way. Add in the lying about cancer and stealing from a charity and it makes my blood boil.
Personally, when I think of poor bastards who've been scammed I immediately think of Simpdog. I feel he should be paid first. To prove my point I'll start a poll.....
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
In some states if you have an unpaid civil judgment against someone you can administratively have their driver's license suspended, which now in some states means an automatic night in jail regardless of excuse. A lawyer wouldn't be needed if the judgment is still good.
Simpdog, Brandon, and Pikachar got it the worst I think. I still have true hatred in my heart for that piece of shit. I like to fuck around on the forums as much as anyone, but I would put him in a hole in the woods never to be found if I ever got the chance and I didn't lose a single dollar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
I'm fine with waiting
:to
might be a little harsh.....Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspokerSimpdog, Brandon, and Pikachar got it the worst I think. I still have true hatred in my heart for that piece of shit. I like to fuck around on the forums as much as anyone, but I would put him in a hole in the woods never to be found if I ever got the chance and I didn't lose a single dollar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
:lol2
Screw 22Q for sure as they have already benefited from this .
I would normally never would say this but I'd rather see any money left over after everyone gets paid if it ever gets that far which I have my doubts go to them African kids in the JASEP HOW COULD YOU fiverr video then to 22Q.
Now if only that scammer Jeff Latka would pay everyone back.
Aka proofz
emergency radio? 24 hr show.
drexel, what say you?
:kermit
I'm not sure what everyone is trying to accomplish here? Bashing him, calling his GF ugly, threatening to kill him? You guys really think that's all gonna help the guy make it right? And I'm not asking for or even remotely expecting sympathy. He rolled a charity for sick kids! But even still he's here and "we" are here. The situation is what it is. Everyone thinks they are menacingly threatening to ruin his life. But it's 2.5 years later and no ones done shit. It's all talk. So let him make good, or he wont. I do know one thing, threatening to kill him or continuing to hurl insults isn't accomplishing anything? Do you feel better after flexing your e-muscles and saying "yEAH, he's s douche! Rah rah roar!"
Jasep, two choices. Make it right. Or disappear and simply change your name. And it doesn't even have to be clever. Jimmy Sulvepeda would suffice
Edit- lol @ anyone who believes a guy making what he does will snap off $400/month! There's a better chance of Tyde not going broke, a better chance that PLOL sexes up a chick, a better chance that Pooh gets those tats removed, a better chance I pay........
lol this really only ends one of two ways
1. He pays it not a bad result
2. He does not, buys time etc and only makes things worse.
Their is no inbetween. Talk about popcorn...
Only a scamming life fuck up like Jasep would have picked a scammy not-for-profit.
If we want to support the cause with the unknown paid donations to something of value why not the Dempster Foundation same cause but not a bunch of fuck ups that use the money for big time trips to exotic locations.
Also I think bi-weekly payments on payday make so much more sense.
Why aren't you all just telling him to learn how to take thebus, and sell one of them cars and be done with the whole nightmare. Seems so easy.
Mass transit ftw
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Originally Posted by jsearles22
So, he's obviously only here because he was threatened. But threatening him won't do any good? I do agree the stuff about his GF etc is just being mean for the sake of it. I mean, she had nothing to do with it and probably doesn't know about it.
But to say threatening to ruin his life is pointless makes no logical sense unless you actually believe he was going to come here on his own accord.
And that is a huge
:lol
I don't know if I was this first to do so, but I called this scum out went he first arrived on these forums because of his phoniness for lack of a better word. He went on to become one of the biggest liars this forum has known. Why does he feel the need to repent publicly, especially if he has no plans to rejoin the forum? Pay back those you stole from and keep your long winded apologizes private.
I call bullshit and who gives a shit. I wouldn't give him the time of day.
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Originally Posted by limitles
Actually I was the first to. But by all means continue.
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Originally Posted by limitles
FYP
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Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by limitles
Actually I was the first to. But by all means continue.
You're correct of course, thus making me the second biggest liar to grace these forums
Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbuspokerSimpdog, Brandon, and Pikachar got it the worst I think. I still have true hatred in my heart for that piece of shit. I like to fuck around on the forums as much as anyone, but I would put him in a hole in the woods never to be found if I ever got the chance and I didn't lose a single dollar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
I believe it was those 3 got scammed the worst too..