Convo I had with on Twitter with Jon Eaton a pro on Seals
Convo I had with on Twitter with Jon Eaton a pro on Seals
Obviously something serious happened for the site to be down this long. The fact that there have been no statements as to what happened and the shroud of secrecy really makes one wonder and leads to wild speculation. The wild speculation could be eased with more forthcoming details. Not doing themselves any favors by not being more forthcoming.
Has traffic on nitrogen picked up?
Are there any other btc rooms operating now?
Meanwhile shipping tournaments on nitrogen....
:waits patiently for someone to photoshop Micon's face on the Iraqi Minister of Information:
Exactly the lack of specificity and details looks like they are hiding something. I mean usually it would be "x happened, we are doing y to try to fix it...bear with us etc etc...". Instead it is "I don't know anything, no one is telling me anything but.....it is going to be a while".Quote:
Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO
what if they posted that they are having issues, posted a link to let people withdraw, claim they got busted (and really didnt) and just rode off into the sunset with bitcoins?
Who owns the place? Micon "claims" he is just PR.
What's micons story these days? Is he making money from this gig? I just saw him playing the horse tournament at the Venetian
Micon BACK
@BryanMicon
Sucks that @SealsWithClubs is still down and I was unavailable for a few days.
We are coming back, it may take a while, but we'll be BACK!
Two considerationsQuote:
Originally Posted by backdoorb
First
SWC is such a amateurish guest bedroom operation that no provision was made to communicate "upgrade" to players. No strategy for PR in case of problems with upgrade - these things happen.
Second,
PR guy, Micon was AWOL during upgrade. Nearly any other self respecting operation would terminate his ass.
So which is it?
Maybe Preet has begun his discovery process and Micon spent a few days in NY.
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Originally Posted by DRK Star
according to 2p2 reports, people are getting cashouts quickly.
im pretty sure micon owns small piece, but he definitely does not run seals and there are larger owner(s).
When Druff did his butthurt radio shows a few yrs ago, he said Micon owned 50 pct of seals. I recall he said Micon got this by promising the guy who ran it (Freemoney) to promote the shit out of it in exchange for half the ownership. Would love for Druff to confirm but I know he wont say shit. He def said something about it though, wish I remember on which episode.
America's card room seem to be a little bit "fuller" they also added more gtd tournies..whatever/whatever..
Seals is still down but I keep doing my thing...
My understanding was Micon owned close to 50% as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by sinnerQuote:
Originally Posted by DRK Star
according to 2p2 reports, people are getting cashouts quickly.
im pretty sure micon owns small piece, but he definitely does not run seals and there are larger owner(s).
I'm not sure why anyone here is surprised about the recent downtime. The lead programmer left sealswithclubs shortly after its launch. Knowing Micon there was no contingency plan in case something of this nature went wrong. Its quite possible he is in the process of trying to track down Dutch Boyd and get him back involved on the team to fix this problem.
Or maybe they found out dutch was superusing :P
Seals has been down almost 5 days now
Successfully cashed out full amount from my Seals account
Grinding on Nitrogen
Just shipped my 3rd tournament of the weekend
Im sure Seals will be up and running properly in no time...
that's my guess, is there a lead dev? where are they hosted?Quote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBetMy understanding was Micon owned close to 50% as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by sinner
I'm not sure why anyone here is surprised about the recent downtime. The lead programmer left sealswithclubs shortly after its launch. Knowing Micon there was no contingency plan in case something of this nature went wrong. Its quite possible he is in the process of trying to track down Dutch Boyd and get him back involved on the team to fix this problem.
Or maybe they found out dutch was superusing :P
EVERYONE NEEDS TO CALM DOWN, ALL WILL BE REVEALED VERY SHORTLY. STAY CALM, ALL IS WELL. THERE ARE NO INFIDEL SOLDIERS IN BAGHDAD.
Druff's been AWOL too.
Micon gets the call from Preet and Druff deiivers the go-bag.
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Originally Posted by sonatine
this nigga got 17 blog entries actin like stevie king and shit; nigga, ain't nobody readin that shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacosta24
Shipped the Grindabit for shits and giggles on Nitrogen
Even if Seals comes back doubt I'll play on there full-time anymore
TAKE IT DOWN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cokeheaddoubt micon stole bitcoin & ran. not his style & also his life was seals, plus he has that little kid so its harder to just grab yer shit & run. but I dont see it in his character to just steal like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
i cant explain it, i think something fucked up happened, like maybe a bust or seizure, or maybe some sorta really good hack & hes too scared to give updates. no way its maintenance tho.
just checked 4 & they are cashing ppl out so it doesnt look to be about $. fucking weird though.
The New Susan riceQuote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Anyone feel like selling me $100 worth of btc?
WOW THANKS FOR ALL THAT INFO DRUFF LOL
https://sealswithclubs.eu/
What's the security threat?
I heard about this a little while ago too.
DD SEALS!
LATER!
HOPE IT WAS FUN!
SFOWNED!
Quote:
2015-02-20
Loyal players,
Effective immediately, SealsWithClubs will cease providing Bitcoin poker and will be shutting down all operations except to allow player funds to be withdrawn for a limited period of time. SealsWithClubs is, and has been, completely solvent up to this point in operations.
WE URGE ALL PLAYERS TO WITHDRAW THEIR FUNDS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. PLAYERS SHOULD CEASE ALL ACTIVITY TO THEIR ACCOUNT DEPOSIT ADDRESSSES NOW.
On approximately February 11th, 2015, several events occurred related to operational security that we consider to indicate SealsWithClubs now operates in a perpetual state of jeopardy. We will not divulge details publically, but they may come to light if any team member chooses to come forward of their own volition at a later date. All player funds and data remain intact and the issue was not software related. We do not believe any of our Bitcoin wallets used in operations to be compromised or lost. However, this event has made the majority vote of the ownership and team agree that shutting down operations is the best move for safety and security purposes.
SealsWithClubs Chairman, Bryan Micon, would like to carry forward the business with his own team (currently settling in Antigua) but the majority ownership cannot guarantee the future security, solvency, and integrity of that operation because there will be no administrative oversight carried over from SealsWithClubs. Members of the SealsWithClubs team and ownership are not ones to lightly endorse anything, not even our own longstanding trustworthy team members, which is why nobody ever makes a sole decision. This dynamic has saved the business several times throughout the years. With Micon operating on his own with his own team, the checks and balances we have kept in place against one another internally for 3+ years will have been removed.
As the majority ownership & team will not go forward with operations but Micon is still in a position to do so, it makes the most sense to hand off assets to Micon in order to enable him to provide to our players the best Bitcoin poker experience he can. Micon has been extremely enthusiastic and dedicated to SealsWithClubs for longer than any member of SealsWithClubs historically, and we truly believe he wants what's best for its players.
We've made considerable effort and expense on a SwC 2.0 software package over an extended period of time; we are transferring the rights to that package in full to Micon with the understanding he will remain faithful to the revenue share and licensing agreement SealsWithClubs had with its primary developer(s) that continue work on it. We suspect that the primary developer(s) behind that project will gladly continue working with Micon. Micon will also be provided the swcpoker.eu domain from which we were planning to continue operations from once SwC 2.0 was ready to deploy. As such, we believe Micon will have the resources at his disposal to bring the new site up, backed by the new SwC 2.0 software package, at a rapid pace.
The traditional SwC 1.0 clients and server, based upon the PokerMavens server/client software and protocol, will be retired. There are a number of operational and security considerations to the SwC 1.0 architecture that we do not feel could be properly documented and conveyed to any new team for further operations or development. At this time, those available must focus our efforts elsewhere.
While the majority ownership and team wish the best for Micon and his operation, we prioritize remaining faithful to our player's balances and security first and foremost. The ****************** domain, related social media accounts and support e-mail addresses (for the duration they are still active and being checked) will solely be used for administrating and paying out all remaining player withdrawal requests. In the event the domain is seized or the current withdrawal server is made inoperational during the period withdrawals are still being administrated, a signed GPG message from hdev or xdev will provide definitive instructions for players to continue making withdrawal requests assuming we are still available and able to draft such a message. Any unsigned or invalidly signed instructions by others should not be considered legitimate.
Please note that withdrawals will only be open for a limited period of time and be solely administrated by those uninvolved with Micon's new operation who have been charged historically with maintaining SealsWithClubs solvency. Those able to stick around to process these withdrawals are hoping to commit to at least a few months of availability. We hope that this is sufficient in allowing all players to make their appropriate claims to their funds before they are made unavailable; in addition, we hope our players will do their part by spreading the word.
In line with remaining faithful to player security, we will not be providing Micon or his team with account passwords or authentication information or balance details. We will provide to him account names and the current e-mail addresses associated with them, as well as the krill amount associated to each account. This should allow his team, if they choose, to reserve usernames and e-mail password resets to users as well as honor their Krill amounts. Micon will also be provided the current e-mail address and account names of any affiliate accounts and the accounts associated under them so that he can choose to remain true to the affiliates in the affiliate program that he pioneered through the years for SealsWithClubs.
It's true!
Critical time for Micon, Will he run Seals solo?
Druff going to step in to save the day?
Well, I don't think it exactly took a crystal ball to determine that their "downtime and software upgrade" was a bunch of full blown horsefuckery
So, regarding his move to Antigua....is he on the run and shit then? I mean, that seems like a plausible reason at this point unless im missing something.
If that's the case... man, I feel bad for that kid to have her world instantly turned upside down and the possibility that she might be looking at daddy through reinforced glass in the future
Possible they received a warning to shut it down, could really be anything though.
I doubt Micon is on the run. He prob just wants to keep the site running
Seems like a warning is most plausible, I know I'd instafold too.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Once there was a catQuote:
Originally Posted by FPS_RussiaSeems like a warning is most plausible, I know I'd instafold too.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
This is what Micon's life has become. Pathetic. I see another divorce in his future.
Not gonna happen, for two reasons:Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
1.) Druff and Micon not friends anymore --- not even talking.
2.) Druff has said he would love to run an offshore (maybe even) bitcoin room. But if it means possible jail time, forget it - not worth it. That's why he doesn't do it and won't.
Yeah, but this SwC situation is sure f'd up...that statement + a temp. shutdown + Micon running it solo is gonna, well, you can draw your own conclusions as to the future...don't wanna bash.
Lol at Micon being all Anne Frank'd up in Druff's attic and shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forum WarsNot gonna happen, for two reasons:Quote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
1.) Druff and Micon not friends anymore --- not even talking.
2.) Druff has said he would love to run an offshore (maybe even) bitcoin room. But if it means possible jail time, forget it - not worth it. That's why he doesn't do it and won't.
Yeah, but this SwC situation is sure f'd up...that statement + a temp. shutdown + Micon running it solo is gonna, well, you can draw your own conclusions as to the future...don't wanna bash.
I think it is hilarious that a team of I am guessing professionals in this industry were like "we out...see ya....shit is about to hit the fan.....but don't worry Micon is in charge now he is gonna handle it!! Holy shit this won't end well. See now he has to actually....work! If I am a player I go nowhere near a Micon run operation....IF it ever actually comes to fruition.
If the former owners say they don't feel comfortable going forward, but Micon does, what could POSSIBLY go wrong? This should be fun.
No doubt the DOJ had a hand in this, Which was pretty obv early on, That being said this is a great time for druff to mend fences with his old business partner and pony up a milly, I think micon could use druff's investment, The druff and micon bitcoin poker room has a good ring to it.