Remember NWP scammer wesrwood? He is holding tens of thousands of dollars for 2+2 users now...

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08-10-2013, 04:31 PM
Crowe Diddly

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Originally Posted by wesrwood

I will give you this though. You just indirectly proved my innocence.
I use the screen name wesrwood everywhere. I'm not a scammer and I have nothing to hide.

Please think about that for a minute

http://i.imgur.com/JlY4Z7W.jpg
08-10-2013, 04:34 PM
Hockey Guy

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesrwood

I will give you this though. You just indirectly proved my innocence.
I use the screen name wesrwood everywhere. I'm not a scammer and I have nothing to hide.

Please think about that for a minute

Not really much to think about. Jasep was a scammer & used that screenname on several sites & pulled scams to some extent on them all.

Are you trying to tell us that scammers are too smart to do this?
08-10-2013, 04:58 PM
DRK Star

You could have 5 different screen names at once, and use them all for various situations. When 1 of the names runs off with peoples cash, that name dies, and you start up another one, to have an imaginary fight with.
08-10-2013, 05:49 PM
BetCheckBet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesrwood

I will give you this though. You just indirectly proved my innocence.
I use the screen name wesrwood everywhere. I'm not a scammer and I have nothing to hide.

Please think about that for a minute

http://i.imgur.com/JlY4Z7W.jpg

He also has at least 1 other account banned there for scamming 2 dollars at neverbeg...

Doesn't really add up. How a guy begging for 1 dollar stakes in 2010 is handling money for a high stakes fantasy league. But hey if guys are that stupid over there go ahead...
08-10-2013, 07:02 PM
SrslySirius

Not Jasep. Though he may share his penchant for pulling sixes.

http://i.imgur.com/ZD9hQRR.jpg
08-10-2013, 07:17 PM
garrett

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesrwood

I will give you this though. You just indirectly proved my innocence.
I use the screen name wesrwood everywhere. I'm not a scammer and I have nothing to hide.

Please think about that for a minute

http://i.imgur.com/JlY4Z7W.jpg

Full Tilt Poker name:
innocent man82

lul
08-10-2013, 07:26 PM
Anal_Hershiser

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I'm convinced that the 2+2 HSNL community is comprised primarily of naive morons who think that skill in NL cash somehow translates to competency in other areas in life.

First, they tend to be super arrogant and dismiss any commentary that comes from someone they can't verify is a regular high stakes NL player. That would be a totally sensible way of running a high stakes NL strategy forum, but incredibly stupid for forums simply about the community itself.

I tried to get involved in the WCGRider/Josh Taylor/Jungleman thread, and they jumped all over me for daring to say that Jungleman should be a suspect because of his routine association with scammers. (For some reason, his high degree of complicity in the Girah scandal was irrelevant in their eyes!)

Now we have a group of dummies telling China and I to "have our fight (with wesrwood) elsewhere", and are trumpeting his successful escrowing of previous fantasy football money.

You know... because nobody ever sets up a long con, or anything.

This is not confined to the 2+2 HSNL community. This is a problem in the entire gambling community. They are reacting no differently than all of Jasep's nuthuggers (and there was a lot of them) did in the "Projekt Sep" thread over here. People started questioning his bullshit, and the response was overwhelmingly "take it somewhere else." So, don't try and act like they're crazy and everyone here is so smart. Members here are just as fucking clueless and naive as they are over there. Except members here should have fucking known better given the countless scamming threads that have occurred over the past decade at NWP/DD/PFA/TYDE etc. Anybody who sends money to someone they don't know over the internet is a fucking idiot. Period.
08-10-2013, 07:26 PM
nunbeater

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Originally Posted by DRK Star

I pray that Bukow never looks deep into my background like that and finds out about my East German midget porn addiction.

whoa, what the fuck is wrong with West German midget porn? I was born and raised on that buddy not that East German pervert sheiise shit that sick fucks like you watch. bastards
08-10-2013, 07:29 PM
Rollo Tomasi

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08-10-2013, 09:27 PM
gauchojake

Fuck warning people about getting scammed on the Internet. It's way more fun to watch them get scammed.

Bukowski, post some pics of EM2 s sister.
08-10-2013, 10:02 PM
bukowski72

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Originally Posted by gauchojake

Fuck warning people about getting scammed on the Internet. It's way more fun to watch them get scammed.

Bukowski, post some pics of EM2 s sister.

LOL. I looked him up after the 2+2 Thread -- he is still flashing the hand signs but he is looking mad puffy. Maybe too much booze.
http://i.imgur.com/FurGz2o.jpg
I think that pic is about 3 years old.

http://i.imgur.com/yldCdGc.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Kp1gGHF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hCJjS98.jpg
08-10-2013, 10:12 PM
gauchojake

:yes

Thanks bukowski.

She is or was smokin

EM2 has a hambone for a forearm. Dude should hire a trainer.

Kids, if you ever post your photo on this site bukowski, vwls, or bob has it on a hard drive somewhere. PSA.
08-10-2013, 10:13 PM
gauchojake

Why do I have to wait 18 hours to give rep to bukowski? Lame.
08-10-2013, 10:15 PM
SrslySirius

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Originally Posted by gauchojake

Why do I have to wait 18 hours to give rep to bukowski? Lame.

I agree, that's a lame rule. I gave him some for you, and I wasn't going to in the first place, so all is good.
08-10-2013, 10:19 PM
gauchojake

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Originally Posted by SrslySirius

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Originally Posted by gauchojake

Why do I have to wait 18 hours to give rep to bukowski? Lame.

I agree, that's a lame rule. I gave him some for you, and I wasn't going to in the first place, so all is good.

All is right with the world.
08-10-2013, 10:41 PM
Dan Druff

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Originally Posted by wesrwood

Druff can you shed a light on any possible explanation on the ips? Also if I pm you my number can you call me so we can sort this out?

I am not an owner of DD anymore, so there isn't much light I can shed.

I can say that it was determined at the time by several people that it was highly likely that you and "tenegnation" were the same person.

Even if there were two different real people involved, it's clear that the two of you played pranks together at one point (the whole ass-kicking thing), and knew each other in real life.

Unfortunately for you, even if you're mostly telling the truth (that Derek was the one responsible for most of the lying and scamming), it appeared to be you.

I do find it odd that you are holding tens of thousands of dollars for fantasy leagues when you were scamming for $5 just a few years ago.

Either you somehow hit the big time since then, or you are holding money that is many times your bankroll. If you really are holding $40k and don't separately have $40k cash to your name, you are not a good choice to escrow for the league, even without your questionable past.

It is never good to have someone escrowing money who has a high likelihood of really needing that money at some point while holding it.
08-10-2013, 10:45 PM
Dan Druff

With that said, I'm not going to bend over backward to prevent wesrwood from escrowing that money.

If those 2+2 people want to be stupid and ignore the warning signs, I am not going to continue interfering.

Chinamaniac and I let everyone know about our suspicions. If they choose not to heed the warnings, it's on them.
08-10-2013, 10:53 PM
gauchojake

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

With that said, I'm not going to bend over backward to prevent wesrwood from escrowing that money.

If those 2+2 people want to be stupid and ignore the warning signs, I am not going to continue interfering.

Chinamaniac and I let everyone know about our suspicions. If they choose not to heed the warnings, it's on them.

Like I said, it's way more fun to watch the train wreck. Some people need to learn for themselves.
08-10-2013, 11:20 PM
Baron Von Strucker

I would like to know what other forums other than 2p2 this guy is selling action to. This con could be going on over multiple forums, and if one site falls he can step up his game on other forums.

WB jasep. Ship this guy the scamatar
08-11-2013, 03:21 AM
Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe

This is bullshit, I've known wesrwood since 1998 and he's a great guy. I don't know why the hell you guys are trying to call him out, nothing has happened with the escrowed money. Wes is blue blood, he could give a fuck all about 3000 dollars. I'm also blue blood... me and Wes are rich as fuck.
08-11-2013, 03:22 AM
Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe

that's made up, I just thought it'd make the story better if me and wes were these two rich connecticut guys.

Or is it?
08-11-2013, 03:48 AM
WillieMcFML

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Originally Posted by Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe

that's made up, I just thought it'd make the story better if me and wes were these two rich connecticut guys.

Or is it?

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08-11-2013, 04:11 AM
wesrwood

Druf, I understand your concerns and ill do a little
more explaining and than hoping this will be done.

If you guys remember nwp at all people saying stupid made up stories was the norm. So yes me and that Derek kid were on aim making it up. We hadnt met yet.

We met that one time and talked in person for maybe 2 minutes. I begin to see he was an asshole and untrustworthy so I stopped dealing with him.

He actually kept aiming me and trying to call me for a while. I moved back to Connecticut over 3 years ago and I haven't heard of him or from him in 4 plus years. I was very happy to have him out of my life and I hope after this is settled I never have to hear about him. This kid is the scum of the earth.

As I pmd China I wouldn't be surprised if he posts here still.
He was kind of like Marty where he would brag about what he posted on here. The forums were his life so I doubt he quit them. So be careful I'm sure he is lurking here somewhere.

Again I won't be posting on this forum again so feel free to bash me again. Though I hope someone make a thead dedicated to that Derek kid instead
08-11-2013, 06:22 AM
badguy23

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesrwood

Druf, I understand your concerns and ill do a little
more explaining and than hoping this will be done.

If you guys remember nwp at all people saying stupid made up stories was the norm. So yes me and that Derek kid were on aim making it up. We hadnt met yet.

We met that one time and talked in person for maybe 2 minutes. I begin to see he was an asshole and untrustworthy so I stopped dealing with him.

He actually kept aiming me and trying to call me for a while. I moved back to Connecticut over 3 years ago and I haven't heard of him or from him in 4 plus years. I was very happy to have him out of my life and I hope after this is settled I never have to hear about him. This kid is the scum of the earth.

As I pmd China I wouldn't be surprised if he posts here still.
He was kind of like Marty where he would brag about what he posted on here. The forums were his life so I doubt he quit them. So be careful I'm sure he is lurking here somewhere.

Again I won't be posting on this forum again so feel free to bash me again. Though I hope someone make a thead dedicated to that Derek kid instead

Give me half or I will come to Connecticut to shove a broom stick up your moms smelly pussy!
08-11-2013, 07:24 AM
bottomset_69

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Originally Posted by mulva

If this is the same guy, then LOL. I took this guy apart on Jewdonk's site for his bear hunting stories in Alaska.

I remember he posted some pics of he and his "friends" and hot "girlfriend" jumping in a lake on a specific Easter Sunday weekend in Boston. They were all in swimsuits having a blast in the pictures. Everyone was commenting how fun it looked, right up until the point I posted from weather.com that Easter Weekend it was in the upper 40s and raining in Boston. He was never heard from again on Jewdonk's site

We then went through his Alaskan bear hunting stories more closely and how the timelines never made sense.

It was similar when Chazmental went to Nevada and bought a $500,000 house in half a day. When I put that timeline together for everyone and how impossible it was, he vanished too.
08-11-2013, 08:08 AM
Rollo Tomasi

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesrwood

Druf, I understand your concerns and ill do a little
more explaining and than hoping this will be done.

If you guys remember nwp at all people saying stupid made up stories was the norm. So yes me and that Derek kid were on aim making it up. We hadnt met yet.

We met that one time and talked in person for maybe 2 minutes. I begin to see he was an asshole and untrustworthy so I stopped dealing with him.

He actually kept aiming me and trying to call me for a while. I moved back to Connecticut over 3 years ago and I haven't heard of him or from him in 4 plus years. I was very happy to have him out of my life and I hope after this is settled I never have to hear about him. This kid is the scum of the earth.

As I pmd China I wouldn't be surprised if he posts here still.
He was kind of like Marty where he would brag about what he posted on here. The forums were his life so I doubt he quit them. So be careful I'm sure he is lurking here somewhere.

Again I won't be posting on this forum again so feel free to bash me again. Though I hope someone make a thead dedicated to that Derek kid instead

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...psb6cf74b8.png
08-11-2013, 11:19 AM
HSNL REG

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesrwood

Druf, I understand your concerns and ill do a little
more explaining and than hoping this will be done.

If you guys remember nwp at all people saying stupid made up stories was the norm. So yes me and that Derek kid were on aim making it up. We hadnt met yet.

We met that one time and talked in person for maybe 2 minutes. I begin to see he was an asshole and untrustworthy so I stopped dealing with him.

He actually kept aiming me and trying to call me for a while. I moved back to Connecticut over 3 years ago and I haven't heard of him or from him in 4 plus years. I was very happy to have him out of my life and I hope after this is settled I never have to hear about him. This kid is the scum of the earth.

As I pmd China I wouldn't be surprised if he posts here still.
He was kind of like Marty where he would brag about what he posted on here. The forums were his life so I doubt he quit them. So be careful I'm sure he is lurking here somewhere.

Again I won't be posting on this forum again so feel free to bash me again. Though I hope someone make a thead dedicated to that Derek kid instead

Nobody cares about this guy you are yapping about so shut the fuck up about Derrick. 3 years ago you were banned on Neverbeg twice. You scammed on Neverwin and according to mods who have no reason to lie you had close to 10 accounts. You owned up to bolting from another site on a stake and someone caught you lying in the 2+2 thread

So tell me why should me or my friends or anyone trust you? Why won't you just give up and have someone with a solid rep that has a lot of money hold all of the leagues you are running? Why do you have to be the one to hold the money in the leagues you are admin? You may have payed out before but you have also scammed for little bits here and there

I know one thing is for sure, you won't be holding any of mine or anyone else I knows $$$ anytime soon
08-11-2013, 02:51 PM
HSNL REG

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Originally Posted by wesrwood

I'm escrowing for my 2 leagues and ill tell you u up front I'm not well off like you guys. But I've held alot of money already and paid out promptly. Also I know multiple 2p2ers in person and will give anyone all my personal information.

Sucks when people ruin it for everyone else. I was scammed in a 300 dollar league 2 years ago and still haven't. Been paid all of it back yet. Too make matters worse he threatened to call the cops on me when I threatened to tell his family he was a scammer

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Originally Posted by wesrwood

I think the guys with more money play higher and have a higher risk of ruin. It doesn't matter tho. Look at lindgren. Anyone can turn Into a scammer.

If you don't feel comfortable with someone escrowing just don't play in their league

:facepalm3
08-11-2013, 06:16 PM
Dan Druff

Quote:

Originally Posted by HSNL REG

Quote:

Originally Posted by wesrwood

Druf, I understand your concerns and ill do a little
more explaining and than hoping this will be done.

If you guys remember nwp at all people saying stupid made up stories was the norm. So yes me and that Derek kid were on aim making it up. We hadnt met yet.

We met that one time and talked in person for maybe 2 minutes. I begin to see he was an asshole and untrustworthy so I stopped dealing with him.

He actually kept aiming me and trying to call me for a while. I moved back to Connecticut over 3 years ago and I haven't heard of him or from him in 4 plus years. I was very happy to have him out of my life and I hope after this is settled I never have to hear about him. This kid is the scum of the earth.

As I pmd China I wouldn't be surprised if he posts here still.
He was kind of like Marty where he would brag about what he posted on here. The forums were his life so I doubt he quit them. So be careful I'm sure he is lurking here somewhere.

Again I won't be posting on this forum again so feel free to bash me again. Though I hope someone make a thead dedicated to that Derek kid instead

Nobody cares about this guy you are yapping about so shut the fuck up about Derrick. 3 years ago you were banned on Neverbeg twice. You scammed on Neverwin and according to mods who have no reason to lie you had close to 10 accounts. You owned up to bolting from another site on a stake and someone caught you lying in the 2+2 thread

So tell me why should me or my friends or anyone trust you? Why won't you just give up and have someone with a solid rep that has a lot of money hold all of the leagues you are running? Why do you have to be the one to hold the money in the leagues you are admin? You may have payed out before but you have also scammed for little bits here and there

I know one thing is for sure, you won't be holding any of mine or anyone else I knows $$$ anytime soon

This guy raises a good point.

wesrwood, why don't you continue running the leagues, but just let the money be held by someone well-known on 2+2 who is trustworthy? That should end this entire mess.
08-12-2013, 03:52 AM
Rollo Tomasi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Quote:

Originally Posted by HSNL REG

Nobody cares about this guy you are yapping about so shut the fuck up about Derrick. 3 years ago you were banned on Neverbeg twice. You scammed on Neverwin and according to mods who have no reason to lie you had close to 10 accounts. You owned up to bolting from another site on a stake and someone caught you lying in the 2+2 thread

So tell me why should me or my friends or anyone trust you? Why won't you just give up and have someone with a solid rep that has a lot of money hold all of the leagues you are running? Why do you have to be the one to hold the money in the leagues you are admin? You may have payed out before but you have also scammed for little bits here and there

I know one thing is for sure, you won't be holding any of mine or anyone else I knows $$$ anytime soon

This guy raises a good point.

wesrwood, why don't you continue running the leagues, but just let the money be held by someone well-known on 2+2 who is trustworthy? That should end this entire mess.

most probably wont happen b/c the whole 40K doesn't exist

the only question is how much of it does exist

don't worry Druff he won't be answering
08-12-2013, 09:38 AM
vegetera

wesrwood: do you like girls with missing limbs?
08-18-2013, 09:16 PM
Hockey Guy

Has anybody actually sent him $1500 to join this fucked up fantasy league?

Hey wesrwood, what happened to the defamation suit you were going to file on china? Go for it dude, you obviously have an airtight case.
09-26-2013, 09:35 AM
Hockey Guy

Bump.

Any updates on Jasep's latest scam?
01-22-2014, 12:26 AM
chinamaniac

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Originally Posted by wesrwood

08-09-2013 Bump. In case there is any doubt that my leagues are legit

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...9&postcount=25

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Originally Posted by wesrwood

01-10-2014
Just a. FYI. As most of you know the PayPal account I use isn't mine and a lot of the money was misused. I have paid most of the people back already. Waiting on one person who won a small amount back to send me his info and I will pay him. I've already talked to irvingpoker who won the 2qb. I owe him 3000 and have already talked to him about paying him back that will be paid as soon as possible.

On top of that I lost 6400 in side bets in the 1500 and I have let them know it's going to take me time to pay them back. Once Irving is paid I will take care of them as soon as I can. Any questions or concerns please post in here.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...7&postcount=26
01-22-2014, 12:39 AM
Dan Druff

Well played, 2+2 HSNL community.
01-22-2014, 01:18 AM
DRK Star

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01-22-2014, 05:56 AM
Hockey Guy

Shocking. I thought they had a different escrow.

I was actually thinking about this the other day & was going to go to 4 & see if they got screwed but forgot. Scammers gonna scam.
01-22-2014, 08:20 AM
DRK Star

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockey Guy

Shocking. I thought they had a different escrow.

I was actually thinking about this the other day & was going to go to 4 & see if they got screwed but forgot. Scammers gonna scam.

For a second, I thought YOU had posted in the Wesrwood thread, but the poster's name is NOT HOCKEY GUY, so that must be someone else.
01-22-2014, 10:22 AM
Steve-O

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Originally Posted by DRK Star

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockey Guy

Shocking. I thought they had a different escrow.

I was actually thinking about this the other day & was going to go to 4 & see if they got screwed but forgot. Scammers gonna scam.

For a second, I thought YOU had posted in the Wesrwood thread, but the poster's name is NOT HOCKEY GUY, so that must be someone else.

I made the same mistake DRK, Hockey Guy corrected me though, with a spoiler tag ;)
01-22-2014, 11:28 AM
abrown83

Why is it so hard for people to use LeagueSafe?

It's been around for a long time, it's reputable, people at 2+2 are a bunch of idiots.

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