Bring on the wsop sweatQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Bring on the wsop sweatQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Even tho I am not purchasing any shares, I will follow the action like I did. GL to Druff and everyone who has a %.
Hockey Guy bought 1% of all 6 events, and paid.
I'll buy 1 share of event 6 for $18/share.
Following purchases received:
Beebs9Dizzle - 1 share #6
Fr1ght - 1 share for all events
Anonamoose - 3 shares for each of the following: 6, 37, 48, 49
Thanks!
Please let me know if you have paid and are not in the master list on Page 1.
hotshott74 bought 1 share of event #6 - payment received
system.out.println bought:
Event 6 - 1 share
Event 37 - 2 shares
Event 40 - 1 share
Event 45 - 1 share
Event 48 - 2 shares
Event 49 - 1 share
Money received.
I'm in for one of each:
Event #6 $1500 NL Holdem "Millionaire Maker" - $18/share
Event #37 $5000 Limit Holdem - $56/share
Event #40 $1500 NL Holdem - $18/share
Event #48 $2500 Limit Holdem 6 Handed - $30/share
Event #49 $1500 NL Holdem - $18/share
Sent you PM
can i get 1% across the board also. shipped!
Crowe Diddly bought 1 share in events 6, 37, 40, 48, 49.
Payment received.
gut bought 1 share of all six events.
Payment received.
A user who wishes to remain anonymous bought 1 share in all six events.
Received.
GL FlufferQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Wow, Sidewinder just shipped $1580 for 10% of all events! Thanks!
Combined with the 15% I have reserved for cmoney, these are going very fast, so purchase now if you want a piece.
Received payment for:
Cat Out of the Bag: 2 shares, event #6
European lurker: 2 shares, event #6
Event #6, $1500 NL "Millionaire Maker" has been suspended for purchasing.
30 shares have been bought, and I promised cmoney 15%, so that already takes it 5 shares over what I wanted to sell.
Everything else is still available, but going fast.
Now if you want to buy "1% across the board" (which excludes event #6), it costs $140.
Just for fun I've added a poll so people can vote on which event they think Druff will have best ROI:
http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...-for-WSOP-2013
That thread will have a very brief recap of each event Druff plays as well.
Poll closes May 29th.
How long until Druff shares show up on the secondary market?
I would like 1 share of events 37,40,48
All purchasing suspended. Please do not send me money for these events until further notice. I might be sold out, and if I'm not, it's very close.
Damn, that shit went quick!
If any of the SH LHE is ever available PM me.
Shut out. They went quickly.
Would be interested if there's any crumbs still left on the plate.
Good luck.
Shut out too...doh
I am holding this up because almost all the shares are gone, and there's people who claim to have checks in the mail, and those checks would make everything completely sold out.
Thank you to everyone for your interest.
If I add any further events to the schedule, I will give priority to those who have not bought anything yet.
Updated the first page where I listed all of the purchases.
Please verify yours and send me any corrections.
That never bothered Jasep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Obviously you can sell whatever you want with whatever makeup you want, but if you posted this thread in 2+2 you would be laughed off. You havent played anything close to what you were platying when online poker was around, but your markup is huge, and you take out the best events.
I'm not hating but cmoney wants to buy up all your shares, but with everyone else he wants 75%. In my opinion Druff is a limit holdem specialist, but charge a big markup on nl events. I've played over 30k tourneys in a 2 year span (mostly 45-90 mans) and I wouldnt have close to the edge now that I would have had back in the FTP/Stars days.
I would buy a piece of the ME, but your not selling that because we could make some money off of that.
It's not makeup, it's markup, fish. And it's actually fairly standard markup and he'd probably sell just fine on 2+2.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
Yea!....I got into the forum...and into the shares........GL ....and tnxs
Not sure if you still have a spot left but my cheap ass wants to buy one.
First choice 45
Second choice 40
Ill pm you in the next day unless I see you're out.
Thanks
Ya I agree and will give an example for one event, the 5k LIMIT is 56 per share and he is selling 55 for for $56 a pieceQuote:
Originally Posted by PLOLIt's not makeup, it's markup, fish. And it's actually fairly standard markup and he'd probably sell just fine on 2+2.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
Now if Druff were to sell all of these then 100 shares x 56 = 5600 for a 5k event. That's not huge markup at all, if he sold them all he would make $600 and own 0 of himself and could potentially be playing for 3 long days
At face value the shares would be $50 and he is charging $56 per share , $6 markup per share is a good deal considering you don't have to do jack shit but buy the share and watch from your internet device etc... Add in druff has run deep in some limit events and won a bracelet and I think 56 for 50 is a good bargain
will sell 1 druffcoin for $75Quote:
June 26: Event #48 $2500 Limit Holdem 6 Handed - $30/share
I said that this thread would not be to debate the value of these shares, but I'll answer you anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
1) Yes, I am a better limit player than NL player. However, the limit fields have a higher percentage of good players/specialists than the NL fields, so I'm not even sure which events I have the bigger edge. I had the biggest edge at the Limit Holdem Shootout for sure, but that event is gone. In recent years, I have done better at the NL events overall than the limit events.
2) I have dropped the $1000 NL events from my schedule, which I felt killed a lot of my edge because you didn't start with enough chips, and because my style doesn't make it as likely that I will get off to a great start, since I don't like gambling much in the early levels.
3) These shares are being promoted as entertainment, not a value investment. Rather than buying pieces of someone you barely know on 2+2, you can buy it from someone who has been part of this community since 2004, and you can follow along with added interest. Furthermore, I provide constant Twitter updates of my progress, to the point where it annoys some people.
4) You know for sure that I will pay you quickly if I win, and there won't be any Cloutier-like shenanigans. Simply put, you can trust me.
5) I can afford to enter these events even if nobody bought a single share, so I'm doing this both to decrease my own variance and to provide some entertainment for the community. If I were desperate to get in action, I might sell cheaper, but I'm pretty much putting it out there with the attitude, "This is what I'm willing to sell, given my time and effort spent", and whoever wanted pieces could do so.
Really shady?!?!? This is a couple of bucks for a good sweat.
Thanks
4) You know for sure that I will pay you quickly if I win, and there won't be any Cloutier-like shenanigans. Simply put, you can trust me.
That is why I bought shares! I trust you!
That part is irellevant. It's not any different then buying a piece of any other player. You can argue the markup isnt high, but of all people to post that paert makes no sense at allQuote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacYa I agree and will give an example for one event, the 5k LIMIT is 56 per share and he is selling 55 for for $56 a pieceQuote:
Originally Posted by PLOL
Now if Druff were to sell all of these then 100 shares x 56 = 5600 for a 5k event. That's not huge markup at all, if he sold them all he would make $600 and own 0 of himself and could potentially be playing for 3 long days
At face value the shares would be $50 and he is charging $56 per share , $6 markup per share is a good deal considering you don't have to do jack shit but buy the share and watch from your internet device etc... Add in druff has run deep in some limit events and won a bracelet and I think 56 for 50 is a good bargain
1. Really meaningless do to sample sizeQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffI said that this thread would not be to debate the value of these shares, but I'll answer you anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
1) Yes, I am a better limit player than NL player. However, the limit fields have a higher percentage of good players/specialists than the NL fields, so I'm not even sure which events I have the bigger edge. I had the biggest edge at the Limit Holdem Shootout for sure, but that event is gone. In recent years, I have done better at the NL events overall than the limit events.
2) I have dropped the $1000 NL events from my schedule, which I felt killed a lot of my edge because you didn't start with enough chips, and because my style doesn't make it as likely that I will get off to a great start, since I don't like gambling much in the early levels.
3) These shares are being promoted as entertainment, not a value investment. Rather than buying pieces of someone you barely know on 2+2, you can buy it from someone who has been part of this community since 2004, and you can follow along with added interest. Furthermore, I provide constant Twitter updates of my progress, to the point where it annoys some people.
4) You know for sure that I will pay you quickly if I win, and there won't be any Cloutier-like shenanigans. Simply put, you can trust me.
5) I can afford to enter these events even if nobody bought a single share, so I'm doing this both to decrease my own variance and to provide some entertainment for the community. If I were desperate to get in action, I might sell cheaper, but I'm pretty much putting it out there with the attitude, "This is what I'm willing to sell, given my time and effort spent", and whoever wanted pieces could do so.
2. A good player adapts his style to a number of factors, and structure is one of those factors. As a player hearing another player admit that they cant adjust is a red flag to me. I feel like your the type of person thats always right and never learns new things because youd have to admit you were wrong. I was this person at one time as well.
Ever since top pros have been wanting deeper structures for tournies everyone believes that its better for them as well. When in reality most tournament players have almost no deep stack experience.
I agree with the rest Druff is trustworthy, and like I said you can sell for whatever you want. Of all the players I've bought action from over the years only Shaun Deeb would be up there with you knowing I would get my money back
Have you always been this dumb? It's called the 1k donkament for a reason. It's a lotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ1. Really meaningless do to sample sizeQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
2. A good player adapts his style to a number of factors, and structure is one of those factors. As a player hearing another player admit that they cant adjust is a red flag to me. I feel like your the type of person thats always right and never learns new things because youd have to admit you were wrong. I was this person at one time as well.
Ever since top pros have been wanting deeper structures for tournies everyone believes that its better for them as well. When in reality most tournament players have almost no deep stack experience.
I agree with the rest Druff is trustworthy, and like I said you can sell for whatever you want. Of all the players I've bought action from over the years only Shaun Deeb would be up there with you knowing I would get my money back
Good luck to Druff and his investors. The only reason I didn't invest is that I'm in the UK and don't have to pay tax on poker winnings (even in the US!) and didn't want the admin hassle if Druff has a huge score. He is obviously +EV in all events however I would highlight one weakness from previous years: When an amateur player check-raises you it's *serious fucking business*.