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Originally Posted by 408Mike

Do you think I write about sexual fantasies with a sister who does not exist or sexual escapades with stuffed animals for cathartic emotional relief?

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Him working with China on our website shouldn't end poorly at all....

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That is just plain disrespectful both to China, youSelf and obviously me. You have no manners nor modicum of class saying something like that in public and in my opinion owe China an apology.

It's understandable that you do not like me, and you have you to blame for that, but China is a good guy and I have tremendous respect for the man, as should you. He deserves much better from people he trusts to handle business with both the business and his best interests in mind, that means doing good business regardless of personal misgivings that might otherwise hinder success.

I should not have to explain such things to a grown man. Whatever your problems are (and that includes problems with me) I suggest you find a way to resolve fast as I hate to be a fifth wheel slowing the rig down. If I do not add it's better I go, as I refuse to subtract from what you have going already.

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Your a maniac.... not one single person gives a fuck about taking you seriously, everyone wants to watch the dumpster fire that you call life burn to the ground, that's not being an entertainer... There are entertainers here, but make no mistake, you are not one of them.

What is disrespectful is you openly calling my intelligence in to questions multiple times and then using the channels that I paid for and set up to help satisfy your need to attention whore... I have so much respect for china that I don't let my personal feelings for you interfere with whatever project he is working on with you.

That is all you need to know about my level of respect for China... Don't ever call in to question my business acumen, you eat cake mix...

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Originally Posted by Pooh

Jesep, might be time to make an executive decision. Nip this one in the bud.

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Yes listen to the man Jasep. Clearly pooh has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he is the king of making solid decisions, what with his "I hate you guys and I am never coming back!" thread and posts to his claimed financial wealth first as a male nurse of some kind to owning his own businesses, oh and he has a REALLY big expensive house with atv's and multiple cars etc etc.

Don't think I haven't kept up on your lies pooh. Keep flapping your gums and I will make you cry and threaten to leave the forum again and bitch and complain etc etc.

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Originally Posted by 408Mike

Do you think I write about sexual fantasies with a sister who does not exist or sexual escapades with stuffed animals for cathartic emotional relief?

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Him working with China on our website shouldn't end poorly at all....

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That is just plain disrespectful both to China, youSelf and obviously me. You have no manners nor modicum of class saying something like that in public and in my opinion owe China an apology.

It's understandable that you do not like me, and you have you to blame for that, but China is a good guy and I have tremendous respect for the man, as should you. He deserves much better from people he trusts to handle business with both the business and his best interests in mind, that means doing good business regardless of personal misgivings that might otherwise hinder success.

I should not have to explain such things to a grown man. Whatever your problems are (and that includes problems with me) I suggest you find a way to resolve fast as I hate to be a fifth wheel slowing the rig down. If I do not add it's better I go, as I refuse to subtract from what you have going already.

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why do you continue to capitalize the s in self or youSelf just cause scooter does?

you are a thirty something man with a crush on another thirty something year old man you know from the internet, wtf is your problem?

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Originally Posted by 408Mike

Do you think I write about sexual fantasies with a sister who does not exist or sexual escapades with stuffed animals for cathartic emotional relief?

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Him working with China on our website shouldn't end poorly at all....

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That is just plain disrespectful both to China, youSelf and obviously me. You have no manners nor modicum of class saying something like that in public and in my opinion owe China an apology.

It's understandable that you do not like me, and you have you to blame for that, but China is a good guy and I have tremendous respect for the man, as should you. He deserves much better from people he trusts to handle business with both the business and his best interests in mind, that means doing good business regardless of personal misgivings that might otherwise hinder success.

I should not have to explain such things to a grown man. Whatever your problems are (and that includes problems with me) I suggest you find a way to resolve fast as I hate to be a fifth wheel slowing the rig down. If I do not add it's better I go, as I refuse to subtract from what you have going already.

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What the fuck are you babbling about? You're as entertaining as a knife wound to the penis

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Originally Posted by 408Mike

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Originally Posted by Pooh

Jesep, might be time to make an executive decision. Nip this one in the bud.

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Yes listen to the man Jasep. Clearly pooh has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he is the king of making solid decisions, what with his "I hate you guys and I am never coming back!" thread and posts to his claimed financial wealth first as a male nurse of some kind to owning his own businesses, oh and he has a REALLY big expensive house with atv's and multiple cars etc etc.

Don't think I haven't kept up on your lies pooh. Keep flapping your gums and I will make you cry and threaten to leave the forum again and bitch and complain etc etc.

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FWIW, I have no idea what pooh does, but i do know that he has always delivered when he has said he will sponsor a freeroll or contest or make a charity donation, 100% of the time without fail, and this is from someone who openly critisized me for a long time... He has funded freerolls here as well...

Also, FWIW, I take great offense to someone who rolls users on poker forums on bets, because it hurts those of us who are honest about it... Vegas1369 is also an owner of VPR, the place where your radio show is happening, and you openly ripped him off for 50.00 and for the better part of a year have not made any effort to make good on it, not even 1%, other than lol steakflix.

But again my trust in china is so high that I will never interfere with him doing whatever he sees as a good idea, this is a head scratcher but who knows.

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Originally Posted by 408Mike

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Originally Posted by Pooh

Jesep, might be time to make an executive decision. Nip this one in the bud.

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Yes listen to the man Jasep. Clearly pooh has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he is the king of making solid decisions, what with his "I hate you guys and I am never coming back!" thread and posts to his claimed financial wealth first as a male nurse of some kind to owning his own businesses, oh and he has a REALLY big expensive house with atv's and multiple cars etc etc.

Don't think I haven't kept up on your lies pooh. Keep flapping your gums and I will make you cry and threaten to leave the forum again and bitch and complain etc etc.

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lol. You're the male nurse buddy. I'm the small business owner. Reread my post from months back if you need a refresher. I sold my jet ski. Still have the boat if you're interested however I'd bet you couldn't afford the gas. My house is 300k and I paid cash. If you need proof I'd be happy to forward it, but it will cost you. Also, the big expensive house was a rental..and it wasn't big but it was on the water. Now I'm on a golf course. Go fuck yourself by the way.

Lol @ Mike talking down to people now. A month ago he's eating cake mix and hoping to befriend spiders. Now he's talking about how much of a man he is while the rest of us are toddlers. Fucking hilarious.

If China, Jasep, and Vegas want legitimacy for whatever they are trying to do with VPR, having this idiot on the air does you ZERO favors. I don't listen to any radio shows. I NEVER have. But was willing to give VPR a try out of loyalty to Vegas. It's obvious you guys aren't taking this seriously if you are giving the biggest train wreck here his own show. I won't be listening. Man the fuck up Jasep, shitcan this nonsense before you guys become known as the place where 408Ape is given a platform to spew his nonsense. Are you guys that desperate?

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

Lol @ Mike talking down to people now. A month ago he's eating cake mix and hoping to befriend spiders. Now he's talking about how much of a man he is while the rest of us are toddlers. Fucking hilarious.

If China, Jasep, and Vegas want legitimacy for whatever they are trying to do with VPR, having this idiot on the air does you ZERO favors. I don't listen to any radio shows. I NEVER have. But was willing to give VPR a try out of loyalty to Vegas. It's obvious you guys aren't taking this seriously if you are giving the biggest train wreck here his own show. I won't be listening. Man the fuck up Jasep, shitcan this nonsense before you guys become known as the place where 408Ape is given a platform to spew his nonsense. Are you guys that desperate?

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I agree. Filthy Limper is a great show. A show with the possibility of winning awards in the future. A show that gives that entire site viability. Let's go crap it all up by giving this druggie his own show. I know everyone like china but he's proving to have the business sense of Druff.

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

Lol @ Mike talking down to people now. A month ago he's eating cake mix and hoping to befriend spiders. Now he's talking about how much of a man he is while the rest of us are toddlers. Fucking hilarious.

If China, Jasep, and Vegas want legitimacy for whatever they are trying to do with VPR, having this idiot on the air does you ZERO favors. I don't listen to any radio shows. I NEVER have. But was willing to give VPR a try out of loyalty to Vegas. It's obvious you guys aren't taking this seriously if you are giving the biggest train wreck here his own show. I won't be listening. Man the fuck up Jasep, shitcan this nonsense before you guys become known as the place where 408Ape is given a platform to spew his nonsense. Are you guys that desperate?

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Desperate for what? do you think the fitness show will somehow turn in to a revenue stream?

Were not desperate at all, this is China's project, he can make a pilot episode with Mike, I don't care, same goes for anyone... If the show is terrible I will have to go down that road with China and Drexel, but I haven't heard it yet... I am predicting fail, but it has nothing at all to do with me, I handle my projects and shows, Mark handles his, there wasn't really any discussion about 408 other than me being asked if I would ban him from the forum and I said no... for the most part Vegas makes those decisions.

China can do whatever he wants, doesn't mean its a sign of desperation, just means he thinks its a good idea.

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Originally Posted by Jasep

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

Lol @ Mike talking down to people now. A month ago he's eating cake mix and hoping to befriend spiders. Now he's talking about how much of a man he is while the rest of us are toddlers. Fucking hilarious.

If China, Jasep, and Vegas want legitimacy for whatever they are trying to do with VPR, having this idiot on the air does you ZERO favors. I don't listen to any radio shows. I NEVER have. But was willing to give VPR a try out of loyalty to Vegas. It's obvious you guys aren't taking this seriously if you are giving the biggest train wreck here his own show. I won't be listening. Man the fuck up Jasep, shitcan this nonsense before you guys become known as the place where 408Ape is given a platform to spew his nonsense. Are you guys that desperate?

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Desperate for what? do you think the fitness show will somehow turn in to a revenue stream?

Were not desperate at all, this is China's project, he can make a pilot episode with Mike, I don't care, same goes for anyone... If the show is terrible I will have to go down that road with China and Drexel, but I haven't heard it yet... I am predicting fail, but it has nothing at all to do with me, I handle my projects and shows, Mark handles his, there wasn't really any discussion about 408 other than me being asked if I would ban him from the forum and I said no... for the most part Vegas makes those decisions.

China can do whatever he wants, doesn't mean its a sign of desperation, just means he thinks its a good idea.

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It doesn't matter who is directly dealing with him. You, China, Vegas. It doesn't matter. What does matter is that he will be a part of what you guys are doing. What he says and does will reflect on you whether it's fair or not. If you want someone like him associated with you in any way shape or form, you should just pack it in and not waste your time. Your blind loyalty to China is not a good thing. But hey, it's your show. If you wanna be known as the place where "that 408 idiot" has his own show, good luck with that. You'll need it.

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

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Originally Posted by Jasep

Desperate for what? do you think the fitness show will somehow turn in to a revenue stream?

Were not desperate at all, this is China's project, he can make a pilot episode with Mike, I don't care, same goes for anyone... If the show is terrible I will have to go down that road with China and Drexel, but I haven't heard it yet... I am predicting fail, but it has nothing at all to do with me, I handle my projects and shows, Mark handles his, there wasn't really any discussion about 408 other than me being asked if I would ban him from the forum and I said no... for the most part Vegas makes those decisions.

China can do whatever he wants, doesn't mean its a sign of desperation, just means he thinks its a good idea.

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It doesn't matter who is directly dealing with him. You, China, Vegas. It doesn't matter. What does matter is that he will be a part of what you guys are doing. What he says and does will reflect on you whether it's fair or not. If you want someone like him associated with you in any way shape or form, you should just pack it in and not waste your time. Your blind loyalty to China is not a good thing. But hey, it's your show. If you wanna be known as the place where "that 408 idiot" has his own show, good luck with that. You'll need it.

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Solid points, I will see what Drexel thinks, he is a majority owner of VPR as well

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Originally Posted by Jasep

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Originally Posted by 408Mike

Yes listen to the man Jasep. Clearly pooh has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he is the king of making solid decisions, what with his "I hate you guys and I am never coming back!" thread and posts to his claimed financial wealth first as a male nurse of some kind to owning his own businesses, oh and he has a REALLY big expensive house with atv's and multiple cars etc etc.

Don't think I haven't kept up on your lies pooh. Keep flapping your gums and I will make you cry and threaten to leave the forum again and bitch and complain etc etc.

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FWIW, I have no idea what pooh does, but i do know that he has always delivered when he has said he will sponsor a freeroll or contest or make a charity donation, 100% of the time without fail, and this is from someone who openly critisized me for a long time... He has funded freerolls here as well...

Also, FWIW, I take great offense to someone who rolls users on poker forums on bets, because it hurts those of us who are honest about it... Vegas1369 is also an owner of VPR, the place where your radio show is happening, and you openly ripped him off for 50.00 and for the better part of a year have not made any effort to make good on it, not even 1%, other than lol steakflix.

But again my trust in china is so high that I will never interfere with him doing whatever he sees as a good idea, this is a head scratcher but who knows.

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I did not openly rip anyone off first and foremost. Vegas called me out for running my mouth, no more no less. That I actually owe him money is a matter of personal principal, there is literally nothing owed if we both do not agree that there is, and I agreed to pay him. Big difference between our situation and what is typical in a "money owed" kind of situation.

The money he wanted I planned to escrow to Druff and then Vegas asked I donate to the humane society. Not having a credit card at the time and also not being able to get around easily with no car and a bad ankle I asked my folks to help out and my stepdad agreed. He paid the humane society I gave him cash and we all went out for breakfast. I asked for a receipt and last I heard my stepdad was dodgey because he is mortally terrified of anyone ever getting any of his personal information, meaning he won't email shit. Said he would give me a printed copy and the last time we could have met was Thanksgiving, which was an epic disaster I don't want to talk about. Suffice to say at some point I will get confirmation of some kind the money was paid and I have kept Vegas in the loop on that. If you ever get a chance to spend 20 minutes talking to my parents, it will be very clear to you why I'm having such a difficult time. They are still living with friends and have not found a home to buy yet, so basically 24/7 that is all they think about or talk about, and ANYTHING ELSE ANYTHING ELSE I bring up is "OH WHEN WE HAVE THE TIME! WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME! I SPENT ALL DAYYYYYY LONG LOOKING FOR HOUSES TO BUY!" is all I hear, and yes my mother spends roughly 6 hours a day on the computer facebooking friends 2 hours a day showering and at least 3 hours a day watching dancing with the stars and glee and 20 minutes actually looking for a house.

When I have the disposable income to do so I will pay the $50 again so that everything is right. After I get paid for the engine work seems likely, but you have to understand, given that I am homeless and sleep on the living room floor of someone else's home, paying a guy from the internet I have never met in my life money because he folded a napkin successfully ranks lower than food expenses, travel by mass transit expense, buying tools needed for jobs etc etc the list goes on. P

Please do not assume anything about me or my life as you do not know me yet and for sure you know only one thing- what I voluntarily say publicly.

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Originally Posted by 408Mike

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Originally Posted by Jasep

FWIW, I have no idea what pooh does, but i do know that he has always delivered when he has said he will sponsor a freeroll or contest or make a charity donation, 100% of the time without fail, and this is from someone who openly critisized me for a long time... He has funded freerolls here as well...

Also, FWIW, I take great offense to someone who rolls users on poker forums on bets, because it hurts those of us who are honest about it... Vegas1369 is also an owner of VPR, the place where your radio show is happening, and you openly ripped him off for 50.00 and for the better part of a year have not made any effort to make good on it, not even 1%, other than lol steakflix.

But again my trust in china is so high that I will never interfere with him doing whatever he sees as a good idea, this is a head scratcher but who knows.

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I did not openly rip anyone off first and foremost. Vegas called me out for running my mouth, no more no less. That I actually owe him money is a matter of personal principal, there is literally nothing owed if we both do not agree that there is, and I agreed to pay him. Big difference between our situation and what is typical in a "money owed" kind of situation.

The money he wanted I planned to escrow to Druff and then Vegas asked I donate to the humane society. Not having a credit card at the time and also not being able to get around easily with no car and a bad ankle I asked my folks to help out and my stepdad agreed. He paid the humane society I gave him cash and we all went out for breakfast. I asked for a receipt and last I heard my stepdad was dodgey because he is mortally terrified of anyone ever getting any of his personal information, meaning he won't email shit. Said he would give me a printed copy and the last time we could have met was Thanksgiving, which was an epic disaster I don't want to talk about. Suffice to say at some point I will get confirmation of some kind the money was paid and I have kept Vegas in the loop on that. If you ever get a chance to spend 20 minutes talking to my parents, it will be very clear to you why I'm having such a difficult time. They are still living with friends and have not found a home to buy yet, so basically 24/7 that is all they think about or talk about, and ANYTHING ELSE ANYTHING ELSE I bring up is "OH WHEN WE HAVE THE TIME! WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME! I SPENT ALL DAYYYYYY LONG LOOKING FOR HOUSES TO BUY!" is all I hear, and yes my mother spends roughly 6 hours a day on the computer facebooking friends 2 hours a day showering and at least 3 hours a day watching dancing with the stars and glee and 20 minutes actually looking for a house.

When I have the disposable income to do so I will pay the $50 again so that everything is right. After I get paid for the engine work seems likely, but you have to understand, given that I am homeless and sleep on the living room floor of someone else's home, paying a guy from the internet I have never met in my life money because he folded a napkin successfully ranks lower than food expenses, travel by mass transit expense, buying tools needed for jobs etc etc the list goes on. P

Please do not assume anything about me or my life as you do not know me yet and for sure you know only one thing- what I voluntarily say publicly.

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PM me your stepdads phone number, I will call him to confirm the story on radio this evening.

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Originally Posted by 408Mike

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Originally Posted by Jasep

FWIW, I have no idea what pooh does, but i do know that he has always delivered when he has said he will sponsor a freeroll or contest or make a charity donation, 100% of the time without fail, and this is from someone who openly critisized me for a long time... He has funded freerolls here as well...

Also, FWIW, I take great offense to someone who rolls users on poker forums on bets, because it hurts those of us who are honest about it... Vegas1369 is also an owner of VPR, the place where your radio show is happening, and you openly ripped him off for 50.00 and for the better part of a year have not made any effort to make good on it, not even 1%, other than lol steakflix.

But again my trust in china is so high that I will never interfere with him doing whatever he sees as a good idea, this is a head scratcher but who knows.

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I did not openly rip anyone off first and foremost. Vegas called me out for running my mouth, no more no less. That I actually owe him money is a matter of personal principal, there is literally nothing owed if we both do not agree that there is, and I agreed to pay him. Big difference between our situation and what is typical in a "money owed" kind of situation.

The money he wanted I planned to escrow to Druff and then Vegas asked I donate to the humane society. Not having a credit card at the time and also not being able to get around easily with no car and a bad ankle I asked my folks to help out and my stepdad agreed. He paid the humane society I gave him cash and we all went out for breakfast. I asked for a receipt and last I heard my stepdad was dodgey because he is mortally terrified of anyone ever getting any of his personal information, meaning he won't email shit. Said he would give me a printed copy and the last time we could have met was Thanksgiving, which was an epic disaster I don't want to talk about. Suffice to say at some point I will get confirmation of some kind the money was paid and I have kept Vegas in the loop on that. If you ever get a chance to spend 20 minutes talking to my parents, it will be very clear to you why I'm having such a difficult time. They are still living with friends and have not found a home to buy yet, so basically 24/7 that is all they think about or talk about, and ANYTHING ELSE ANYTHING ELSE I bring up is "OH WHEN WE HAVE THE TIME! WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME! I SPENT ALL DAYYYYYY LONG LOOKING FOR HOUSES TO BUY!" is all I hear, and yes my mother spends roughly 6 hours a day on the computer facebooking friends 2 hours a day showering and at least 3 hours a day watching dancing with the stars and glee and 20 minutes actually looking for a house.

When I have the disposable income to do so I will pay the $50 again so that everything is right. After I get paid for the engine work seems likely, but you have to understand, given that I am homeless and sleep on the living room floor of someone else's home, paying a guy from the internet I have never met in my life money because he folded a napkin successfully ranks lower than food expenses, travel by mass transit expense, buying tools needed for jobs etc etc the list goes on. P

Please do not assume anything about me or my life as you do not know me yet and for sure you know only one thing- what I voluntarily say publicly.

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You are 30+ and holding your hopes on a step dad's receipt from some humane society donation because you don't have a working credit card? WTF is wrong with you? Who cares if your mom spends 20 hours a day playing with dildos and zero time looking for a house. You are an adult. Don't you have friends? Someone you can sleep on their couch for a couple weeks while you dream up this money you're going to make? Why are you depending on your parents still at this point? GET OFF THE INTERNET

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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser

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Originally Posted by Jasep

Desperate for what? do you think the fitness show will somehow turn in to a revenue stream?

Were not desperate at all, this is China's project, he can make a pilot episode with Mike, I don't care, same goes for anyone... If the show is terrible I will have to go down that road with China and Drexel, but I haven't heard it yet... I am predicting fail, but it has nothing at all to do with me, I handle my projects and shows, Mark handles his, there wasn't really any discussion about 408 other than me being asked if I would ban him from the forum and I said no... for the most part Vegas makes those decisions.

China can do whatever he wants, doesn't mean its a sign of desperation, just means he thinks its a good idea.

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It doesn't matter who is directly dealing with him. You, China, Vegas. It doesn't matter. What does matter is that he will be a part of what you guys are doing. What he says and does will reflect on you whether it's fair or not. If you want someone like him associated with you in any way shape or form, you should just pack it in and not waste your time. Your blind loyalty to China is not a good thing. But hey, it's your show. If you wanna be known as the place where "that 408 idiot" has his own show, good luck with that. You'll need it.

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I cringe at the thought of a faceless person on the internet too afraid of the world to share even one shred of personal information about his life brazenly slamming a very well known and respected man for his business decisions. By all means though run with what you said above and someday soon we will see where the chips fell and settle up some other time.

mike, answer my question

why do you continue to capitalize the s in Self or yourSelf just because some other crazy guy you know from the internet does it?

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Originally Posted by 408Mike

I did not openly rip anyone off first and foremost. Vegas called me out for running my mouth, no more no less. That I actually owe him money is a matter of personal principal, there is literally nothing owed if we both do not agree that there is, and I agreed to pay him. Big difference between our situation and what is typical in a "money owed" kind of situation.

The money he wanted I planned to escrow to Druff and then Vegas asked I donate to the humane society. Not having a credit card at the time and also not being able to get around easily with no car and a bad ankle I asked my folks to help out and my stepdad agreed. He paid the humane society I gave him cash and we all went out for breakfast. I asked for a receipt and last I heard my stepdad was dodgey because he is mortally terrified of anyone ever getting any of his personal information, meaning he won't email shit. Said he would give me a printed copy and the last time we could have met was Thanksgiving, which was an epic disaster I don't want to talk about. Suffice to say at some point I will get confirmation of some kind the money was paid and I have kept Vegas in the loop on that. If you ever get a chance to spend 20 minutes talking to my parents, it will be very clear to you why I'm having such a difficult time. They are still living with friends and have not found a home to buy yet, so basically 24/7 that is all they think about or talk about, and ANYTHING ELSE ANYTHING ELSE I bring up is "OH WHEN WE HAVE THE TIME! WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME! I SPENT ALL DAYYYYYY LONG LOOKING FOR HOUSES TO BUY!" is all I hear, and yes my mother spends roughly 6 hours a day on the computer facebooking friends 2 hours a day showering and at least 3 hours a day watching dancing with the stars and glee and 20 minutes actually looking for a house.

When I have the disposable income to do so I will pay the $50 again so that everything is right. After I get paid for the engine work seems likely, but you have to understand, given that I am homeless and sleep on the living room floor of someone else's home, paying a guy from the internet I have never met in my life money because he folded a napkin successfully ranks lower than food expenses, travel by mass transit expense, buying tools needed for jobs etc etc the list goes on. P

Please do not assume anything about me or my life as you do not know me yet and for sure you know only one thing- what I voluntarily say publicly.

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ROFL. Lies, lies, and more lies. Can you imagine him paying that $50 and not running here and making a thread about it to tell us? He now mentions it passingly in an unrelated thread. Makes perfect sense. Now its, he paid the $50 to the Humane Society with Daddy's card and he can't provide the proof because his daddy is scared about giving out his personal info. Even though providing a receipt was basically the ONE thing Vegas asked for. Vegas can get into the rest of the lies if he so chooses. But I can tell you the line about "keeping Vegas in the loop" is total bullshit. This is the person they want running a radio show for them. Unreal.

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Originally Posted by 408Mike

I did not openly rip anyone off first and foremost. Vegas called me out for running my mouth, no more no less. That I actually owe him money is a matter of personal principal, there is literally nothing owed if we both do not agree that there is, and I agreed to pay him. Big difference between our situation and what is typical in a "money owed" kind of situation.

The money he wanted I planned to escrow to Druff and then Vegas asked I donate to the humane society. Not having a credit card at the time and also not being able to get around easily with no car and a bad ankle I asked my folks to help out and my stepdad agreed. He paid the humane society I gave him cash and we all went out for breakfast. I asked for a receipt and last I heard my stepdad was dodgey because he is mortally terrified of anyone ever getting any of his personal information, meaning he won't email shit. Said he would give me a printed copy and the last time we could have met was Thanksgiving, which was an epic disaster I don't want to talk about. Suffice to say at some point I will get confirmation of some kind the money was paid and I have kept Vegas in the loop on that. If you ever get a chance to spend 20 minutes talking to my parents, it will be very clear to you why I'm having such a difficult time. They are still living with friends and have not found a home to buy yet, so basically 24/7 that is all they think about or talk about, and ANYTHING ELSE ANYTHING ELSE I bring up is "OH WHEN WE HAVE THE TIME! WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME! I SPENT ALL DAYYYYYY LONG LOOKING FOR HOUSES TO BUY!" is all I hear, and yes my mother spends roughly 6 hours a day on the computer facebooking friends 2 hours a day showering and at least 3 hours a day watching dancing with the stars and glee and 20 minutes actually looking for a house.

When I have the disposable income to do so I will pay the $50 again so that everything is right. After I get paid for the engine work seems likely, but you have to understand, given that I am homeless and sleep on the living room floor of someone else's home, paying a guy from the internet I have never met in my life money because he folded a napkin successfully ranks lower than food expenses, travel by mass transit expense, buying tools needed for jobs etc etc the list goes on. P

Please do not assume anything about me or my life as you do not know me yet and for sure you know only one thing- what I voluntarily say publicly.

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You are 30+ and holding your hopes on a step dad's receipt from some humane society donation because you don't have a working credit card? WTF is wrong with you? Who cares if your mom spends 20 hours a day playing with dildos and zero time looking for a house. You are an adult. Don't you have friends? Someone you can sleep on their couch for a couple weeks while you dream up this money you're going to make? Why are you depending on your parents still at this point? GET OFF THE INTERNET

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I do not depend on my parents for anything nor do I owe you any answers as to what life decisions I have made that you disagree with.

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It doesn't matter who is directly dealing with him. You, China, Vegas. It doesn't matter. What does matter is that he will be a part of what you guys are doing. What he says and does will reflect on you whether it's fair or not. If you want someone like him associated with you in any way shape or form, you should just pack it in and not waste your time. Your blind loyalty to China is not a good thing. But hey, it's your show. If you wanna be known as the place where "that 408 idiot" has his own show, good luck with that. You'll need it.

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I cringe at the thought of a faceless person on the internet too afraid of the world to share even one shred of personal information about his life brazenly slamming a very well known and respected man for his business decisions. By all means though run with what you said above and someday soon we will see where the chips fell and settle up some other time.

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We are both in our thirties you dumbfuck. The chips have already fallen. I am sitting on a comfortable stack, while you are to stupid to have even started playing the game.

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You are 30+ and holding your hopes on a step dad's receipt from some humane society donation because you don't have a working credit card? WTF is wrong with you? Who cares if your mom spends 20 hours a day playing with dildos and zero time looking for a house. You are an adult. Don't you have friends? Someone you can sleep on their couch for a couple weeks while you dream up this money you're going to make? Why are you depending on your parents still at this point? GET OFF THE INTERNET

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I do not depend on my parents for anything nor do I owe you any answers as to what life decisions I have made that you disagree with.

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That doesn't mean you're not going to word vomit the answers out over the next hours of you posting puke all over the forum

Yeah get this worthless pile of dog shit pilot show off your site jesep.

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I did not openly rip anyone off first and foremost. Vegas called me out for running my mouth, no more no less. That I actually owe him money is a matter of personal principal, there is literally nothing owed if we both do not agree that there is, and I agreed to pay him. Big difference between our situation and what is typical in a "money owed" kind of situation.

The money he wanted I planned to escrow to Druff and then Vegas asked I donate to the humane society. Not having a credit card at the time and also not being able to get around easily with no car and a bad ankle I asked my folks to help out and my stepdad agreed. He paid the humane society I gave him cash and we all went out for breakfast. I asked for a receipt and last I heard my stepdad was dodgey because he is mortally terrified of anyone ever getting any of his personal information, meaning he won't email shit. Said he would give me a printed copy and the last time we could have met was Thanksgiving, which was an epic disaster I don't want to talk about. Suffice to say at some point I will get confirmation of some kind the money was paid and I have kept Vegas in the loop on that. If you ever get a chance to spend 20 minutes talking to my parents, it will be very clear to you why I'm having such a difficult time. They are still living with friends and have not found a home to buy yet, so basically 24/7 that is all they think about or talk about, and ANYTHING ELSE ANYTHING ELSE I bring up is "OH WHEN WE HAVE THE TIME! WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME! I SPENT ALL DAYYYYYY LONG LOOKING FOR HOUSES TO BUY!" is all I hear, and yes my mother spends roughly 6 hours a day on the computer facebooking friends 2 hours a day showering and at least 3 hours a day watching dancing with the stars and glee and 20 minutes actually looking for a house.

When I have the disposable income to do so I will pay the $50 again so that everything is right. After I get paid for the engine work seems likely, but you have to understand, given that I am homeless and sleep on the living room floor of someone else's home, paying a guy from the internet I have never met in my life money because he folded a napkin successfully ranks lower than food expenses, travel by mass transit expense, buying tools needed for jobs etc etc the list goes on. P

Please do not assume anything about me or my life as you do not know me yet and for sure you know only one thing- what I voluntarily say publicly.

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PM me your stepdads phone number, I will call him to confirm the story on radio this evening.

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You'll have to give Mike time to-

A. Come up with an excuse as to why he can't do that. Probably something about his stepdad being crazy or some other baseless claim.

B. Ignore your post.

C. Admit he was lying.

My money is on A, with B being a close second. Lol @ him doing the right thing with C.

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You sir are nothing but an attention whore IMO. You've been trying to weasel your way onto radio for months & now you got your own show so, congratulations.

Maybe you should do a good show & prove me wrong rather than insulting your potential audience. I'm not one of your trolls & you should know that. I just don't find you at all entertaining. I'm allowed to have an opinion, right?

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Calm down bro,I certainly did not insult you, if you took the hockey child comment wrong then stop acting like one and act like a man. A real man does not make accusations with no underlying basis of fact, such as I have been "trying to weasel my way onto radio for months" or that I am an 'attention whore' etc.

Yes you are entitled to having your opinion as I advocate free speech, when you talk like a man you will be respected and treated like one and not before that time. I hope that makes sense to you because I have no time for crayons this lifetime.

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Get real. You're talking like I do nothing but troll you 24/7. I've had zero interaction with you & for you to tell me to talk like a man & I will get respected is, quite frankly, laughable. Look at my track record here before spouting such nonsense. I don't troll anybody.

If you think calling me "hockey child" isn't an insult & then follow it up with a reference about crayons AFTER you've said "I certainly did not insult you" is baffling to say the least. Maybe you don't understand what an insult is but I do.

Again, do a great show & prove all the naysayers, including myself, wrong then you can say I told you so. Until then you should say nothing.

408 owning souls left and right

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Lol @ Mike talking down to people now. A month ago he's eating cake mix and hoping to befriend spiders. Now he's talking about how much of a man he is while the rest of us are toddlers. Fucking hilarious.

If China, Jasep, and Vegas want legitimacy for whatever they are trying to do with VPR, having this idiot on the air does you ZERO favors. I don't listen to any radio shows. I NEVER have. But was willing to give VPR a try out of loyalty to Vegas. It's obvious you guys aren't taking this seriously if you are giving the biggest train wreck here his own show. I won't be listening. Man the fuck up Jasep, shitcan this nonsense before you guys become known as the place where 408Ape is given a platform to spew his nonsense. Are you guys that desperate?

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Desperate for what? do you think the fitness show will somehow turn in to a revenue stream?

Were not desperate at all, this is China's project, he can make a pilot episode with Mike, I don't care, same goes for anyone... If the show is terrible I will have to go down that road with China and Drexel, but I haven't heard it yet... I am predicting fail, but it has nothing at all to do with me, I handle my projects and shows, Mark handles his, there wasn't really any discussion about 408 other than me being asked if I would ban him from the forum and I said no... for the most part Vegas makes those decisions.

China can do whatever he wants, doesn't mean its a sign of desperation, just means he thinks its a good idea.

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As much as I think mike is the biggest loser on the planet why take shots at China? The guy helped China out, and hes returning the favor. Lets just say Mike is very knowledgeable about nutrition that just proves what a failure of lifeform he is because instead of taking responsibility for what hes done hes busy searching the internet to learn about fitness.

On a serious note I also know alot about nutrition, and so i have a few questions for Mike

1.Theres alot of science thats pointing to metabolic typing what are your thoughts on this?

2. What should we look for in a multivitamin? and what should we avoid?

3. I'm a huge believer in taking medicinal mushroom extracts like Shitake, Maitake, Cordyceps, Lions Mane, Reisha for cancer and overall Illness prevention. What are your thoughts on these?

4. Thoughts on eating meat? Theres alot of evidence that it causes Cancer among other things.

Thats all for now I hope you answer these.

Mike is god. Anyone interested in nutrition and exercize should tune in. Mike is also very knowledgeable in many other areas as well. We should have 3 hrs of premium top if the line content

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FWIW, I have no idea what pooh does, but i do know that he has always delivered when he has said he will sponsor a freeroll or contest or make a charity donation, 100% of the time without fail, and this is from someone who openly critisized me for a long time... He has funded freerolls here as well...

Also, FWIW, I take great offense to someone who rolls users on poker forums on bets, because it hurts those of us who are honest about it... Vegas1369 is also an owner of VPR, the place where your radio show is happening, and you openly ripped him off for 50.00 and for the better part of a year have not made any effort to make good on it, not even 1%, other than lol steakflix.

But again my trust in china is so high that I will never interfere with him doing whatever he sees as a good idea, this is a head scratcher but who knows.

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I did not openly rip anyone off first and foremost. Vegas called me out for running my mouth, no more no less. That I actually owe him money is a matter of personal principal, there is literally nothing owed if we both do not agree that there is, and I agreed to pay him. Big difference between our situation and what is typical in a "money owed" kind of situation.

The money he wanted I planned to escrow to Druff and then Vegas asked I donate to the humane society. Not having a credit card at the time and also not being able to get around easily with no car and a bad ankle I asked my folks to help out and my stepdad agreed. He paid the humane society I gave him cash and we all went out for breakfast. I asked for a receipt and last I heard my stepdad was dodgey because he is mortally terrified of anyone ever getting any of his personal information, meaning he won't email shit. Said he would give me a printed copy and the last time we could have met was Thanksgiving, which was an epic disaster I don't want to talk about. Suffice to say at some point I will get confirmation of some kind the money was paid and I have kept Vegas in the loop on that. If you ever get a chance to spend 20 minutes talking to my parents, it will be very clear to you why I'm having such a difficult time. They are still living with friends and have not found a home to buy yet, so basically 24/7 that is all they think about or talk about, and ANYTHING ELSE ANYTHING ELSE I bring up is "OH WHEN WE HAVE THE TIME! WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME! I SPENT ALL DAYYYYYY LONG LOOKING FOR HOUSES TO BUY!" is all I hear, and yes my mother spends roughly 6 hours a day on the computer facebooking friends 2 hours a day showering and at least 3 hours a day watching dancing with the stars and glee and 20 minutes actually looking for a house.

When I have the disposable income to do so I will pay the $50 again so that everything is right. After I get paid for the engine work seems likely, but you have to understand, given that I am homeless and sleep on the living room floor of someone else's home, paying a guy from the internet I have never met in my life money because he folded a napkin successfully ranks lower than food expenses, travel by mass transit expense, buying tools needed for jobs etc etc the list goes on. P

Please do not assume anything about me or my life as you do not know me yet and for sure you know only one thing- what I voluntarily say publicly.

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Your whole life is just 1 big excuse. It doesnt matter the subject. It doesnt matter who its with. Its always someones else's fault and you always have an excuse. Be a fuckin man for once in your life and own up to something.

You just dont get it paying someone the money you owe them is more important then everything you listed. The fact that you dont understand that just speaks to the person you are.

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Desperate for what? do you think the fitness show will somehow turn in to a revenue stream?

Were not desperate at all, this is China's project, he can make a pilot episode with Mike, I don't care, same goes for anyone... If the show is terrible I will have to go down that road with China and Drexel, but I haven't heard it yet... I am predicting fail, but it has nothing at all to do with me, I handle my projects and shows, Mark handles his, there wasn't really any discussion about 408 other than me being asked if I would ban him from the forum and I said no... for the most part Vegas makes those decisions.

China can do whatever he wants, doesn't mean its a sign of desperation, just means he thinks its a good idea.

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As much as I think mike is the biggest loser on the planet why take shots at China? The guy helped China out, and hes returning the favor. Lets just say Mike is very knowledgeable about nutrition that just proves what a failure of lifeform he is because instead of taking responsibility for what hes done hes busy searching the internet to learn about fitness.

On a serious note I also know alot about nutrition, and so i have a few questions for Mike

1.Theres alot of science thats pointing to metabolic typing what are your thoughts on this?

2. What should we look for in a multivitamin? and what should we avoid?

3. I'm a huge believer in taking medicinal mushroom extracts like Shitake, Maitake, Cordyceps, Lions Mane, Reisha for cancer and overall Illness prevention. What are your thoughts on these?

4. Thoughts on eating meat? Theres alot of evidence that it causes Cancer among other things.

Thats all for now I hope you answer these.

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I'm not taking a shot at China, China is my friend, what I said was that I have so much trust in China that it doesn't bother me that he wants to do this show with Mike, even though I think Mike is a top shelf scumbag.

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Mike is god. Anyone interested in nutrition and exercize should tune in. Mike is also very knowledgeable in many other areas as well. We should have 3 hrs of premium top if the line content

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I love how you can just scan past all of Mike's lies and bullshit and just post "Mike is God." You're really ok with Mike not paying a bet and then lying about it? You're ok with putting a mentally ill person on the air to hand out health advice when he has no qualifications to do so? Have you thought about what would happen if someone follows his advice and hurts themselves? Obviously you haven't. This is who you want to associate with? I've said my piece. Can't wait til this blows up in your faces. GL fellas.

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Mike is god. Anyone interested in nutrition and exercize should tune in. Mike is also very knowledgeable in many other areas as well. We should have 3 hrs of premium top if the line content

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I love how you can just scan past all of Mike's lies and bullshit and just post "Mike is God." You're really ok with Mike not paying a bet and then lying about it? You're ok with putting a mentally ill person on the air to hand out health advice when he has no qualifications to do so? Have you thought about what would happen if someone follows his advice and hurts themselves? Obviously you haven't. This is who you want to associate with? I've said my piece. Can't wait til this blows up in your faces. GL fellas.

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I dont scan past anything. I just dont read 99 % of the posts on these forums and mike has a lot of posts

Have no idea about any bets mike has made, not paid etc.

Mike knows fitness

If someone follows his advice and gets hurt then they get hurt. Just like if someone follows my poker advice and goes broke thats the chance they take. But Mike has helped many people I know with regards to eating and exercizing so I dont think this will be a problem


408Mike is a very smart guy and he will deliver EXCELLENT content on radio.

Exactly how could this blow up in anyones face?

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Mike is god. Anyone interested in nutrition and exercize should tune in. Mike is also very knowledgeable in many other areas as well. We should have 3 hrs of premium top if the line content

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I love how you can just scan past all of Mike's lies and bullshit and just post "Mike is God." You're really ok with Mike not paying a bet and then lying about it? You're ok with putting a mentally ill person on the air to hand out health advice when he has no qualifications to do so? Have you thought about what would happen if someone follows his advice and hurts themselves? Obviously you haven't. This is who you want to associate with? I've said my piece. Can't wait til this blows up in your faces. GL fellas.

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Mike told me three years ago to switch from margarine to butter and I've never recovered. Guy did serious damage to me.

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1. Have no idea about any bets mike has made, not paid etc.

2. Mike knows fitness

3. If someone follows his advice and gets hurt then they get hurt. Just like if someone follows my poker advice and goes broke thats the chance they take. But Mike has helped many people I know with regards to eating and exercizing so I dont think this will be a problem


4. 408Mike is a very smart guy and he will deliver EXCELLENT content on radio.

5. Exactly how could this blow up in anyones face?

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1. You have no idea Mike owes $ on a bet despite it being brought up multiple times ITT. Maybe try reading it again? Solid job of researching basic things before you put someone on air. Definitely a winning strategy.

2. He worked at a GNC ffs. He knows as much about fitness as he does everything else. Which is not much.

3. Tell that to their lawyer. You don't think you can be held liable if something were to happen? Or at least cause yourself a giant headache? You are advertising him as being a "fitness expert" despite him having absolutely no formal training or certifications in those areas. You don't just get to say, "if they get hurt, they get hurt." That's not the way it works. When you advertise someone as an "expert" on anything, it is not unreasonable to assume his advice may be followed. It better be expert advice or be prepared for the consequences. Poker and weight loss are not comparable. Giving someone poker advice is not the same as giving someone health advice. Why do you think it takes 8 years of college to become a Dr. and nothing at all to give poker advice or coaching? Fucking think about it.

4. You are absolutely clueless.

5. I've already explained that, but you didn't want to listen.

I'm not gonna harass you or even troll you about this. But when this thing goes south, you can't say you weren't warned.

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I love how you can just scan past all of Mike's lies and bullshit and just post "Mike is God." You're really ok with Mike not paying a bet and then lying about it? You're ok with putting a mentally ill person on the air to hand out health advice when he has no qualifications to do so? Have you thought about what would happen if someone follows his advice and hurts themselves? Obviously you haven't. This is who you want to associate with? I've said my piece. Can't wait til this blows up in your faces. GL fellas.

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Mike told me three years ago to switch from margarine to butter and I've never recovered. Guy did serious damage to me.

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All jokes and games til this idiot tells someone to do something they shouldn't. Why risk it?

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Mike told me three years ago to switch from margarine to butter and I've never recovered. Guy did serious damage to me.

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All jokes and games til this idiot tells someone to do something they shouldn't. Why risk it?

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1. Have no idea about any bets mike has made, not paid etc.

2. Mike knows fitness

3. If someone follows his advice and gets hurt then they get hurt. Just like if someone follows my poker advice and goes broke thats the chance they take. But Mike has helped many people I know with regards to eating and exercizing so I dont think this will be a problem


4. 408Mike is a very smart guy and he will deliver EXCELLENT content on radio.

5. Exactly how could this blow up in anyones face?

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1. You have no idea Mike owes $ on a bet despite it being brought up multiple times ITT. Maybe try reading it again? Solid job of researching basic things before you put someone on air. Definitely a winning strategy.
I skip the posts that are troll posts or have nothing to do with the show.
2. He worked at a GNC ffs. He knows as much about fitness as he does everything else. Which is not much.
He knows a lot more than u give him credit for.
3. Tell that to their lawyer. You don't think you can be held liable if something were to happen? Or at least cause yourself a giant headache? You are advertising him as being a "fitness expert" despite him having absolutely no formal training or certifications in those areas. You don't just get to say, "if they get hurt, they get hurt." That's not the way it works. When you advertise someone as an "expert" on anything, it is not unreasonable to assume his advice may be followed. It better be expert advice or be prepared for the consequences. Poker and weight loss are not comparable. Giving someone poker advice is not the same as giving someone health advice. Why do you think it takes 8 years of college to become a Dr. and nothing at all to give poker advice or coaching? Fucking think about it.
I think your stretching this part.
4. You are absolutely clueless.
Disagree. 408mike is an expert and will deliver
5. I've already explained that, but you didn't want to listen.
Disagree
I'm not gonna harass you or even troll you about this. But when this thing goes south, you can't say you weren't warned.

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Bottom line is I think mike can bring some good content to radio. If people don't like it they don't have to listen

In mike's vids and when he was on radio before, he certainly came across a lot more normal and interesting than in his forum posts.

I won't be surprised if 408 does a good show, just as I won't be surprised when he puts out 1,000+ word posts of nonsense and vocab lessons. Forum mike is unlikeable and impenetrable. Radio mike might very well be the opposite.

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In mike's vids and when he was on radio before, he certainly came across a lot more normal and interesting than in his forum posts.

I won't be surprised if 408 does a good show, just as I won't be surprised when he puts out 1,000+ word posts of nonsense and vocab lessons. Forum mike is unlikeable and impenetrable. Radio mike might very well be the opposite.

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I guess you didnt hear the recent one with Druff. The guy takes no responsiblity for anything thats ever happened to him. If he misses the bus it wouldnt be because he should have left a few mins earlier it would be because the bus driver was ahead of schedule. Hes pathetic and he doesnt see it no matter how obvious it is. A normal logical smart person could take a step back and say hey I need to do something different. Its my fault I'm homeless. Its my fault I lose every job. Its my fault my Mom wishes she swallowed me. The guys clueless.

Theres different kinds of intelligence. Theres the guy (who knows everything) but is a failure. Then theres the guy who might not be considered to be bright, but he knows enough to work hard enough at life to be succesful.

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As much as I think mike is the biggest loser on the planet why take shots at China? The guy helped China out, and hes returning the favor. Lets just say Mike is very knowledgeable about nutrition that just proves what a failure of lifeform he is because instead of taking responsibility for what hes done hes busy searching the internet to learn about fitness.

On a serious note I also know alot about nutrition, and so i have a few questions for Mike

1.Theres alot of science thats pointing to metabolic typing what are your thoughts on this?

2. What should we look for in a multivitamin? and what should we avoid?

3. I'm a huge believer in taking medicinal mushroom extracts like Shitake, Maitake, Cordyceps, Lions Mane, Reisha for cancer and overall Illness prevention. What are your thoughts on these?

4. Thoughts on eating meat? Theres alot of evidence that it causes Cancer among other things.

Thats all for now I hope you answer these.

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I'm not taking a shot at China, China is my friend, what I said was that I have so much trust in China that it doesn't bother me that he wants to do this show with Mike, even though I think Mike is a top shelf scumbag.

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Didnt mean you

I am not sold on this idea. I also don't feel like the program fits with the direction that VPR is going.

Agree with bootsy, but hey guess the live PFO thing is now off on Wednesday nights from the LLPR front, wish someone would tell me what the hell is going on from time to time.