*** OFFICIAL *** Foreign-Based X Accounts Pretending They're American Thread

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No to anti-Trump. I can’t speak to the latter two, but the fake ones are overwhelmingly pro Trump unless you have some reason my eyes are lying to me. Being Anti-immigration and also anti-Trump doesn’t even make sense.

Right wing shit dominates left wing accounts. I would guess right wing accounts make up 80-90% of accounts with millions of followers

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I mean Trump is very pro Israel, pro Jewish and pro H1b-immigration. So if you are a fake account that is constantly attacking Jews and (legal) immigration, you are pretty much anti-Trump by default, even if you never talk about him at all. And I would say the majority of fake accounts this is what they post about.

Look at all the X posts that Sonatine, Telafriend and Orko are constantly posting. This is what I am talking about. This completely overwhelms the fake pro Trump posts. And Elon has every incentive to try to tamper this down.

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Fuck no. You’re high. They post shit from mostly a few accounts that are right wingers for the most part. Tella. Orko stuff is often from some small niche weird site. A few may not like Trump right now, but the big ones aren’t anti-Trump in the sense they are pro-left. They are to the right of Trump

You are so sensitive to any Jewish criticism shit you don’t even make sense anymore. The vast majority are huge accounts and just post about how great Trump is so they can scam people.

You really are a single issue Israel bot at this point

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Right wing shit dominates left wing accounts. I would guess right wing accounts make up 80-90% of accounts with millions of followers

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I think you underestimate how many of the fake "right wing" accounts focus 90% on pushing antisemitism and criticizing legal immigration (normally anti-Indian), 2 things that dont align with Elon's (or Trumps) priorities at all.

You probably dont look at Orko posts very much. But he regurgitates a lot of very popular "right wing" influencers who mostly just post anti-Jewish stuff. There is no incentive for Elon to promote this kind of stuff.

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Right wing shit dominates left wing accounts. I would guess right wing accounts make up 80-90% of accounts with millions of followers

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I think you underestimate how many of the fake "right wing accounts" focus 90% on pushing antisemitism and criticizing legal immigration (normally anti-Indian), 2 things that dont align with Elon's (or Trumps) priorities at all.

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Link these large anti-Trump anti Jew anti immigrant sites. Desert posts shit from all those Eastern euro sites like that white ghost crap. They hate immigrants. They may or may not talk about Jews or like Jews. All love Trump. There are tons of those with a ton of followers. They all highlight black crime. Immigrant crime. No one there is anti-Trump. That’s idiotic

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Right wing shit dominates left wing accounts. I would guess right wing accounts make up 80-90% of accounts with millions of followers

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I think you underestimate how many of the fake "right wing" accounts focus 90% on pushing antisemitism and criticizing legal immigration (normally anti-Indian), 2 things that dont align with Elon's (or Trumps) priorities at all.

You probably dont look at Orko posts very much. But he regurgitates a lot of very popular "right wing" influencers who mostly just post anti-Jewish stuff. There is no incentive for Elon to promote this kind of stuff.

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Post the anti Trump ones. I already know the worst and most vocal antisemites are on the right

Yeah it’s just opportunistic scamming.

Not a conspiracy, from what I can see.

I knew this was going on, just couldn’t prove it.

Anyone seemingly overly patriotic, yet with no verifiable pictures of themselves, is very suspect.

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I think you underestimate how many of the fake "right wing accounts" focus 90% on pushing antisemitism and criticizing legal immigration (normally anti-Indian), 2 things that dont align with Elon's (or Trumps) priorities at all.

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Link these large anti-Trump anti Jew anti immigrant sites. Desert posts shit from all those Eastern euro sites like that white ghost crap. They hate immigrants. They may or may not talk about Jews or like Jews. All love Trump. There are tons of those with a ton of followers. They all highlight black crime. Immigrant crime. No one there is anti-Trump. That’s idiotic

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Do you follow Elon on X? I do. And I see most of his posts because he rigs it that way. When it comes to culture war stuff, Elon posts the exact same shit Desert does. Generally right wing, especially anti black crime and anti-immigrant (avoiding Chinese and Indian H1B stuff) content. And avoiding all the antisemetic conspiracy stuff and generally anti-Jewish/anti-Zionist stuff.

Given this, either you are correct and Elon and his team (who have way more inside the machine information than you or I) are idiots and cant read the room; or you are wrong and releasing county info will help his causes more than hurt them. And there is no reason to believe he is trying to hurt Trump, as him and Trump seem to be on the same team again, and he even got the guy he wants to run NASA, after Trump originally said no to spite him.

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Link these large anti-Trump anti Jew anti immigrant sites. Desert posts shit from all those Eastern euro sites like that white ghost crap. They hate immigrants. They may or may not talk about Jews or like Jews. All love Trump. There are tons of those with a ton of followers. They all highlight black crime. Immigrant crime. No one there is anti-Trump. That’s idiotic

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Do you follow Elon on X? I do. And I see most of his posts because he rigs it that way. When it comes to culture war stuff, Elon posts the exact same shit Desert does. Generally right wing, especially anti black crime and anti-immigrant (avoiding Chinese and Indian H1B stuff) content. And avoiding all the antisemetic conspiracy stuff and generally anti-Jewish/anti-Zionist stuff.

Given this, either you are correct and Elon and his team (who have way more inside the machine information than you or I) are idiots and cant read the room; or you are wrong and releasing county info will help his causes more than hurt them. And there is no reason to believe he is trying to hurt Trump, as him and Trump seem to be on the same team again, and he even got the guy he wants to run NASA, after Trump originally said no to spite him.

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You have nothing to link because there are almost none who fit that nonsensical description you said dwarves the many MAGA fans profiles .

There were like a bunch that are linked to Eastern Europe and already gone. Try to find his white ghost now. I can’t. Maybe I am searching for it wrong.

And all are pro-Trump. Whether here or abroad anyone doing that niche is pro-Trump. Anti-immigrant, but pro-Trump.

Where are all these huge fake sites that are anti-Trump anti-immigrant anti-Jew that Tella posts and Orko? They post Fuentes, Jimmy Dore, a bunch of people created largely by the right and none are fake. We know exactly who they are and they aren’t pretending to be Americans when they’re not.

That’s the subject of this thread. You said the fake profiles who are anti Trump dwarf the pro-Trump ones. That is pure idiocy. Link them. Where are these army of anti-Trump accounts pretending to be Americans? We can link MAGA ones from Nigeria and elsewhere all day long.

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Do you follow Elon on X? I do. And I see most of his posts because he rigs it that way. When it comes to culture war stuff, Elon posts the exact same shit Desert does. Generally right wing, especially anti black crime and anti-immigrant (avoiding Chinese and Indian H1B stuff) content. And avoiding all the antisemetic conspiracy stuff and generally anti-Jewish/anti-Zionist stuff.

Given this, either you are correct and Elon and his team (who have way more inside the machine information than you or I) are idiots and cant read the room; or you are wrong and releasing county info will help his causes more than hurt them. And there is no reason to believe he is trying to hurt Trump, as him and Trump seem to be on the same team again, and he even got the guy he wants to run NASA, after Trump originally said no to spite him.

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You have nothing to link because there are almost none who fit that nonsensical description you said dwarves the many MAGA fans profiles .

There were like a bunch that are linked to Eastern Europe and already gone. Try to find his white ghost now. I can’t. Maybe I am searching for it wrong.

And all are pro-Trump. Whether here or abroad anyone doing that niche is pro-Trump. Anti-immigrant, but pro-Trump.

Where are all these huge fake sites that are anti-Trump anti-immigrant anti-Jew that Tella posts and Orko? They post Fuentes, Jimmy Dore, a bunch of people created largely by the right and none are fake. We know exactly who they are and they aren’t pretending to be Americans when they’re not.

That’s the subject of this thread. You said the fake profiles who are anti Trump dwarf the pro-Trump ones. That is pure idiocy. Link them. Where are these army of anti-Trump accounts pretending to be Americans? We can link MAGA ones from Nigeria and elsewhere all day long.

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One of the biggest ones (Khalissee) posted almost exclusive anti-Jewish stuff. Was massive account that Orko reposted often. Said they were from Britain, but deleted their account the day country location was implemented. Another massive account ADAM same thing*. That is just off the top of my head. I am doing other stuff now, but I am sure if I sat at a computer and researched I could come up with a lot.

*I just looked up the ADAM account. It says they are located in UK, but 13 name changes in last 3 years, so obviously is some sort of operation and not just a dude posting his opinions.

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You have nothing to link because there are almost none who fit that nonsensical description you said dwarves the many MAGA fans profiles .

There were like a bunch that are linked to Eastern Europe and already gone. Try to find his white ghost now. I can’t. Maybe I am searching for it wrong.

And all are pro-Trump. Whether here or abroad anyone doing that niche is pro-Trump. Anti-immigrant, but pro-Trump.

Where are all these huge fake sites that are anti-Trump anti-immigrant anti-Jew that Tella posts and Orko? They post Fuentes, Jimmy Dore, a bunch of people created largely by the right and none are fake. We know exactly who they are and they aren’t pretending to be Americans when they’re not.

That’s the subject of this thread. You said the fake profiles who are anti Trump dwarf the pro-Trump ones. That is pure idiocy. Link them. Where are these army of anti-Trump accounts pretending to be Americans? We can link MAGA ones from Nigeria and elsewhere all day long.

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One of the biggest ones (Khalissee) posted almost exclusive anti-Jewish stuff. Was massive account that Orko reposted often. Said they were from Britain, but deleted their account the day country location was implemented. Another massive account ADAM same thing*. That is just off the top of my head. I am doing other stuff now, but I am sure if I sat at a computer and researched I could come up with a lot.

*I just looked up the ADAM account. It says they are located in UK, but 13 name changes in last 3 years, so obviously is some sort of operation and not just a dude posting his opinions.

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lol. You got one dude pretending to be a Brit?

Let’s ask X how many fakes on both sides? I don’t get it? You told me there were 10 for every MAGA one? Literally everyone here including the Jews know you’re lying. You just made it up because you’re a one issue dude. Just throwing shit out there and not for serious discussion. Have a good night man.

While the November 22, 2025, rollout of X's "About This Account" transparency feature primarily unmasked a higher volume of right-wing and pro-MAGA fakes (as detailed in prior analyses), it also spotlighted foreign-operated left-leaning profiles. These accounts often amplified anti-Trump rhetoric, progressive demoralization, or NeverTrump "principled conservative" narratives, posing as U.S.-based voices to sow division or farm engagement. Exposures on the left were fewer—estimated at 5-10% of high-engagement accounts vs. 40-60% on the right, per contemporaneous X threads and reports—but included some major players with hundreds of thousands of followers. Motivations mirror the right: ad revenue from outrage and potential foreign influence ops (e.g., EU-based actors stirring U.S. polarization).

I am phone posting all day while doing other stuff. You are declaring victory pretty prematurely.

Regardless. Your theories would involve Elon musk having no clue what is going on X, and cluelessly shooting himself in the foot.

And mine would support Elon pushing a change he perceives to be beneficial for him.

And all else being equal, this would mean I am much more likely to be closer to reality than you.

And again, you want to lump “the right” into one bucket, where I am making a distinction between the stuff Elon promotes and the stuff he avoids. And hypothesizing he perceives showing location to be net positive by exposing the “fake right wing” material that doesn’t align with him.

Which I tell you ain’t Deserteunner type stuff, as that is the stuff Elon promotes.

What’s Tydes twitter handle?

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One of the biggest ones (Khalissee) posted almost exclusive anti-Jewish stuff. Was massive account that Orko reposted often. Said they were from Britain, but deleted their account the day country location was implemented. Another massive account ADAM same thing*. That is just off the top of my head. I am doing other stuff now, but I am sure if I sat at a computer and researched I could come up with a lot.

*I just looked up the ADAM account. It says they are located in UK, but 13 name changes in last 3 years, so obviously is some sort of operation and not just a dude posting his opinions.

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lol. You got one dude pretending to be a Brit?

Let’s ask X how many fakes on both sides? I don’t get it? You told me there were 10 for every MAGA one? Literally everyone here including the Jews know you’re lying. You just made it up because you’re a one issue dude. Just throwing shit out there and not for serious discussion. Have a good night man.

While the November 22, 2025, rollout of X's "About This Account" transparency feature primarily unmasked a higher volume of right-wing and pro-MAGA fakes (as detailed in prior analyses), it also spotlighted foreign-operated left-leaning profiles. These accounts often amplified anti-Trump rhetoric, progressive demoralization, or NeverTrump "principled conservative" narratives, posing as U.S.-based voices to sow division or farm engagement. Exposures on the left were fewer—estimated at 5-10% of high-engagement accounts vs. 40-60% on the right, per contemporaneous X threads and reports—but included some major players with hundreds of thousands of followers. Motivations mirror the right: ad revenue from outrage and potential foreign influence ops (e.g., EU-based actors stirring U.S. polarization).

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https://x.com/EFischberger/status/1992189277678264758

--Orko/Sonatine/Telafriend post tweets from these accounts and others like them. There is an endless supply of these accounts, and they are just flooding X on a global scale. On top of their foreign locations, note how many of them have so many name changes.

I suspect Elon and his team consider these accounts a much bigger problem than the pro Trump/pro Israel ones originating from India. And are willing to expose the latter group to deal with the former group. At the end of the day all these "anti-Zionist" focused foreign operations are clearly something he perceives as bad business for his version of American right wing politics.

I have yet to see an anti-Trump post on any of these sites except the guy in the ME saying he lived in UK.

You keep trying to equate disliking Israel with being anti-Trump when the biggest right wing figures on American social media post the exact same content.

You’re trying to equate hating Israel with anti-American content, but the only people they hate are the same people the right wing American accounts do. Anyone assisting Israel. The same people all the right wingers hate. And the way you know they aren’t of the left is they are all pro-Russia and hate Zelensky. No one on the left posts that stuff.

You still seem unable to process that pretty much everyone on the American right hates Israel if they aren’t old or some southern Baptist type Evangelical. These sites mirror the content of the American far right. I don’t doubt Elon and JD feel the same. Elon allows fake MAGA pages and fake sites that sound like Fuentes or Tucker because he agrees with that extreme right.

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You still seem unable to process that pretty much everyone on the American right hates Israel if they aren’t old or some southern Baptist type Evangelical. These sites mirror the content of the American far right. I don’t doubt Elon and JD feel the same. Elon allows fake MAGA pages and fake sites that sound like Fuentes or Tucker because he agrees with that extreme right.

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You live in populist MAGA land. The district I live in is very red and wealthy, and no one hates Jews or Israel. I follow Elon on twitter. I have for a long time. I listen to his interviews. There isn't a single thing he has ever said or done that would indicate any avarice towards Jews or Israel. All his businesses have significant operations in Israel.

Maybe he doesn't like Netanyahu, but there is a very long line of people that dont like Bibi, including many, many, many Jews/Israelis.

I think I read somewhere California has the third most registered Republicans. More than any of the fly over states you live in and around. They aren't anti-Israel/anti-Jewish. These include a lot of people that own businesses and skew older. They probably voted for Ronald Reagan. It seems like they dont exist because they dont get very many representatives in the House (and will get even less with the gerrymandering going on) and none in the Senate, but they are there.

Me, Druff and Desertrunner are more representative of the coastal elite right than the flyover state antisemites you hang around. And there are a lot of us; we just aren't the majority where we live so our political imprint is smaller. Even the 70/30 dark blue districts, that 30% is actually a lot of people. Probably more actual people than Republican districts in rural areas that vote 90/10 Republican. And most of them aren't antisemitic and dont hate Israel.

Now maybe the future of the "right" in 30 years is young, low IQ antisemites; but I think you severely over estimate this being the present reality. And I think you vastly over-estimate this site, or even X, mirroring the actual American right. Many of the antisemites on this site aren't even American. But if JD/Tucker take over the party after Trump and run in 2028 on an antisemitic platform then I guess we will find out how much support there is. I suspect there wont be much and it will be a giant Democrat win and bloodbath for the right.

All the anti-Zionist/anti-Jewish energy here (and there is plenty of it. See the UCLA takeover) is from the progressive far-left and Muslims. None from the right.

And I would definitely say my thoughts about why Elon might have added the country list are closer than yours, as you cant really explain it and just say he is an idiot who is canabilizing his own interests.

JD I dont think really believes in anything. He is a purely political animal. This current version is so far removed from his "Hillbilly Elegy" days it is hard to believe either version is authentic.

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You still seem unable to process that pretty much everyone on the American right hates Israel if they aren’t old or some southern Baptist type Evangelical. These sites mirror the content of the American far right. I don’t doubt Elon and JD feel the same. Elon allows fake MAGA pages and fake sites that sound like Fuentes or Tucker because he agrees with that extreme right.

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You live in populist MAGA land. The district I live in is very red and wealthy, and no one hates Jews or Israel. I follow Elon on twitter. I have for a long time. I listen to his interviews. There isn't a single thing he has ever said or done that would indicate any avarice towards Jews or Israel. All his businesses have significant operations in Israel.

Maybe he doesn't like Netanyahu, but there is a very long line of people that dont like Bibi, including many, many, many Jews/Israelis.

I think I read somewhere California has the third most registered Republicans. More than any of the fly over states you live in and around. They aren't anti-Israel/anti-Jewish. These include a lot of people that own businesses and skew older. They probably voted for Ronald Reagan. It seems like they dont exist because they dont get very many representatives in the House (and will get even less with the gerrymandering going on) and none in the Senate, but they are there.

Me, Druff and Desertrunner are more representative of the coastal elite right than the flyover state antisemites you hang around. And there are a lot of us; we just aren't the majority where we live so our political imprint is smaller. Even the 70/30 dark blue districts, that 30% is actually a lot of people. Probably more actual people than Republican districts in rural areas that vote 90/10 Republican. And most of them aren't antisemitic and dont hate Israel.

Now maybe the future of the "right" in 30 years is young, low IQ antisemites; but I think you severely over estimate this being the present reality. And I think you vastly over-estimate this site, or even X, mirroring the actual American right. Many of the antisemites on this site aren't even American. But if JD/Tucker take over the party after Trump and run in 2028 on an antisemitic platform then I guess we will find out how much support there is. I suspect there wont be much and it will be a giant Democrat win and bloodbath for the right.

All the anti-Zionist/anti-Jewish energy here (and there is plenty of it. See the UCLA takeover) is from the progressive far-left and Muslims. None from the right.

And I would definitely say my thoughts about why Elon might have added the country list are closer than yours, as you cant really explain it and just say he is an idiot who is canabilizing his own interests.

JD I dont think really believes in anything. He is a purely political animal. This current version is so far removed from his "Hillbilly Elegy" days it is hard to believe either version is authentic.

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Elon has posted numerous things I wouldn’t. Agreeing with antisemitism and saying they aren’t lying.

I can’t think of anything less relevant than blue state Republicans when discussing the direction of the party. And any time desert is mentioned as elite anything other than levels of autism I get a giggle. The right is already majority low IQ droolers. You’re the one living in a bubble not indicative of the party as a whole. This isn’t the party of Orange County Republicans.

Either way, you were contending there were 10x of anti-Trump accounts for every pro-MAGA, which was silly. Now we are pretending to know what Elon considers the more prevalent threat which is pure conjecture and the goalposts are so far away they are on a different field.

Like the reason the entire world thinks Trump is leveraged by Israeli intelligence is because he is behaving contrary to his whole movement.

Elon blew Trump up regarding Epstein in front of the world. I would posit what you say when angry is more indicative of how you feel than what you say once you have backtracked for business reasons. Same for his previous comments regarding Israel, but that is one he is going to never be clear on with his business. He will play both sides as he has.

Really all of them. Vance, Elon, Bannon, all seem to be vacillating between positions right now. All seem ready to go the Tucker route, but Trump all of a sudden decided to be a neocon despite running against them since 2016. Hence the suspicion.

Trump isn’t some Cruz, Rubio, Shapiro, W style neocon Republican.

He’s a Bannon, Alex Jones, MTG, Tucker style Republican.

Which is why it’s all so bizarre. But I’m quite sure Tucker, Elon, and the rest of the power brokers would prefer Vance, and a little shove never hurts. I don’t feel like turning another thread into Kalam turns every subject into the war against Jews. That’s is a tiny part of this story and that you imagine Elon did all this for that reason is just weird.

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I don’t feel like turning another thread into Kalam turns every subject into the war against Jews. That’s is a tiny part of this story and that you imagine Elon did all this for that reason is just weird.

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Ok. So then what is your explanation for why he did it? To cannibalize his own movement and show much of the energy for MAGA is foreign agents trying to disrupt the US for nefarious purposes? As you said, most of the fake accounts are right wing. Why would he do that?

You think in 2028 a Vance ticket is going to run on a platform of uncovering Jewish pedophile rings, shutting down H1B visas, and other low IQ conspiracies (chemtrails and Macron was really behind the Kirk murder and is now coming after Candace anyone?) and take the Presidency and both houses in 2028, because that is what the #1 issue the American people really care about?

Like I said, I seriously doubt this to be true. But I guess we will find out.

There was a scandal.
Overview of the Incident

On November 22, 2025, X (formerly Twitter) briefly rolled out a new "account based in" transparency feature, which displayed the geographic origin and operational location for user profiles based on IP addresses and creation data. This feature quickly exposed anomalies in several high-profile accounts, including the official U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) account (@DHSgov.

Screenshots and videos captured by users showed the DHS profile indicating it was created in Israel and operated from Tel Aviv. The revelation sparked widespread speculation about foreign influence, outsourcing, or technical glitches, especially amid ongoing U.S.-Israel relations and criticisms of perceived Zionist influence in American institutions (often abbreviated as "ZOG" in online discourse).Within about 20 minutes of the feature going live, X disabled it globally, citing technical issues. When it was partially reinstated later, government accounts like DHS were exempted, and the DHS profile was updated to show a U.S.-based location. The incident went viral, amassing millions of views across Reddit, X, and news outlets, with discussions blending conspiracy theories, national security concerns, and calls for investigations.

Official Denials and ExplanationsDHS Response: The @DHSgov
account first reacted with a meme of a stunned Donald Trump (implying absurdity), then issued a statement on November 23: "I can’t believe we have to say this, but this account has only ever been run and operated from the United States. Screenshots are easy to forge, videos are easy to manipulate." They emphasized zero foreign involvement.



CONCLUSION
Was There Really a "DHS x Account" Run Out of Israel?

 

Short answer: No confirmed evidence supports an ongoing Israeli operation of the DHS account, but the brief display was real and unexplained. It appears to have been a fleeting glitch or data error during X's feature test, not proof of a "Zionist-occupied" (ZOG) takeover.

HAHAHAHA w/e Grok

Good summary
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8jiCV5TNStk

You may be right that Vance/Tucker/Elon want Trump gone. And all this focus on Jewish pedophile rings and other conspiracies is a means to get there.

But I dont think they are going to win a general election and control Congress running on such a ticket. They will have to completely change the narrative and pivot to something more palatable, and if they keep getting attacked from the right by online trolls who want to bring it back to the JQ it is going to be a big problem.

Then again, Micky is posting Al Jazeera videos in the other thread, so maybe that is an indication where the right is now.

Please keep this thread on topic. It’s about foreign accounts pretending to be American.

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The X thread I posted has like 100 such accounts, many of them with 10+ name changes in the last couple years. So obviously some sort of operation.

Twitter offers a means for English speaking creators from the third world to earn a meager income.

If an Indian in a remote village could earn $200 for telling Americans “the sun was the moon” they would.

Dodger related accounts out of Gaza will be a phenomenon shortly.

Elon has stumbled around with this platform for years now. The resulting signal to noise is awful.

There is nothing to see here except the fact that after the fall of American journalism this is all ploppies have left.

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You may be right that Vance/Tucker/Elon want Trump gone. And all this focus on Jewish pedophile rings and other conspiracies is a means to get there.

But I dont think they are going to win a general election and control Congress running on such a ticket. They will have to completely change the narrative and pivot to something more palatable, and if they keep getting attacked from the right by online trolls who want to bring it back to the JQ it is going to be a big problem.

Then again, Micky is posting Al Jazeera videos in the other thread, so maybe that is an indication where the right is now.

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There is always some kooks around but most Christian conservatives are not anti-semite. But what we are waking up to is the war crimes committed by IDF with Likud's blessing. The Israel lobby brands us as anti-semites hoping it will make us go away. Some like Levin are even calling us nazi's . People aren't falling for that shit anymore. We aren't the nazi's. The war hawks like Levin and Shapiro are the nazi's.

I knew Kalam would bring up the "Al Jazeera video" like that gives it less credibility. But look at the content. Look at what IDF is doing. There are/were worse videos but youtube is scrubbing them as fast as they can.

Not all Christians have defected from support of Israel but more and more are leaving everyday. IDF can't just keep committing genocide and expect American Christians to back them on it.

PS: I'm part of Gambling Twitter, mostly slot AP's. I have about 2300 followers. I have to regularly go thru and block all the assholes that do political content. I'm there to talk shop with other AP's, not for the political content. I get enough of that here. But I will occasionally make a short remark when the idiots put down false information. Twitter in 95% false information.

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You may be right that Vance/Tucker/Elon want Trump gone. And all this focus on Jewish pedophile rings and other conspiracies is a means to get there.

But I dont think they are going to win a general election and control Congress running on such a ticket. They will have to completely change the narrative and pivot to something more palatable, and if they keep getting attacked from the right by online trolls who want to bring it back to the JQ it is going to be a big problem.

Then again, Micky is posting Al Jazeera videos in the other thread, so maybe that is an indication where the right is now.

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There is always some kooks around but most Christian conservatives are not anti-semite. But what we are waking up to is the war crimes committed by IDF with Likud's blessing. The Israel lobby brands us as anti-semites hoping it will make us go away. Some like Levin are even calling us nazi's . People aren't falling for that shit anymore. We aren't the nazi's. The war hawks like Levin and Shapiro are the nazi's.

I knew Kalam would bring up the "Al Jazeera video" like that gives it less credibility. But look at the content. Look at what IDF is doing. There are/were worse videos but youtube is scrubbing them as fast as they can.

Not all Christians have defected from support of Israel but more and more are leaving everyday. IDF can't just keep committing genocide and expect American Christians to back them on it.

PS: I'm part of Gambling Twitter, mostly slot AP's. I have about 2300 followers. I have to regularly go thru and block all the assholes that do political content. I'm there to talk shop with other AP's, not for the political content. I get enough of that here.

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Twitter offers a means for English speaking creators from the third world to earn a meager income.

If an Indian in a remote village could earn $200 for telling Americans “the sun was the moon” they would.

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most americans are too lazy to do this much.

no need, we have a nice backstop.

what i kinda find strange, ironic and hypocritical is that the supposed 2 biggest perpetrators of spreading mis/disinformation and anti-American propaganda and just generally stirring up shit in the USA.... China and Russia are not in these screenshots.... i am not saying there isn't any out there or that Chinese and Russian nationalists can't be working in these other countries that i am seeing the most of like India, Africa and the Asia's .... but these big accounts that got exposed, i have not once seen one from Russia or China... and again they are suppose to be the biggest "perps" according to the USA Govt.... the USA is it's own worst enemy... and then you have the DHS account which was created in Israel... the USA Govt. is the biggest spreader of mis/disinformation and propaganda in the entire world... (credit Jimmy Dore on that last statement)....

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or more importantly, the one that should matter.

sorry i just want to be sure i understand whats being said; you think the american government spreads more misinfo and agitprop than russia?

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sorry i just want to be sure i understand whats being said; you think the american government spreads more misinfo and agitprop than russia?

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regarding issues of significance, certainly. all our govt does is lie. you posted a shot of them w/holding data from last month just a few minutes ago. 911, Iran contra, Iraq, Cia, FBI, DOJ, 1/6, Vietnam - have you ever dug into that -- it a decade of straight lies. everything our govt does, regardless of parties, is a lie. every fucking word out of their mouths. the truth just fills in the gaps or are Freudian slips.



if you are asking if i have compared the meta data b/n nations on each lie spread online and otherwise, sorry, i'm not your goy.

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sorry i just want to be sure i understand whats being said; you think the american government spreads more misinfo and agitprop than russia?

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regarding issues of significance, certainly. all our govt does is lie. you posted a shot of them w/holding data from last month just a few minutes ago. 911, Iran contra, Iraq, Cia, FBI, DOJ, 1/6, Vietnam - have you ever dug into that -- it a decade of straight lies. everything our govt does, regardless of parties, is a lie. every fucking word out of their mouths. the truth just fills in the gaps or are Freudian slips.



if you are asking if i have compared the meta data b/n nations on each lie spread online and otherwise, sorry, i'm not your goy.

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cool cool.

its very much my lane and i felt a similar way to you until i read oleg kalugin's autobiography. career has exposed me to more of the spear tip for russian disinfo operations and theres no comparison between us and them in terms of volume, damage, etc. they rely on it for parity because our technical edge is essentially impossible to catch up with at this point.

given your background and opinions i understand why you probably find that hard to believe. and thats fine of course.

At least the real thelma is still around to report on twitter shutting down these accounts

https://x.com/TheRealThelmaJ1/status...086484425?s=20

its worth noting, and relevant to this thread, that one of the first things elon did was eliminate access for researchers to the twitter API. there was a healthy community dedicated to outing disinfo botnets on twitter before that. with that one decision he ended it all.

Thelma on fire tonight

https://x.com/TheRealThelmaJ1/status...973328819?s=20

https://x.com/TheRealThelmaJ1/status...029828213?s=20

https://x.com/TheRealThelmaJ1/status...197409651?s=20

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sorry i just want to be sure i understand whats being said; you think the american government spreads more misinfo and agitprop than russia?

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yes, the Smith Mundt Act amendments signed under Barack Hussein IslamObama allows the US Govt. to lie and propagandize it's own citizens...

It's really fun watching people who were on a range from out of touch to completely, delusionally out of touch in the election just a year ago pretend to be political experts again.

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Thelma on fire tonight

https://x.com/TheRealThelmaJ1/status...973328819?s=20

https://x.com/TheRealThelmaJ1/status...029828213?s=20

https://x.com/TheRealThelmaJ1/status...197409651?s=20

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i had to click to see if catshit was the winner, ..., by a mile lol


Nigerians
12.7%
Pakistanis
3.2%
Russians
18.1%
Catturd
65.9%

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regarding issues of significance, certainly. all our govt does is lie. you posted a shot of them w/holding data from last month just a few minutes ago. 911, Iran contra, Iraq, Cia, FBI, DOJ, 1/6, Vietnam - have you ever dug into that -- it a decade of straight lies. everything our govt does, regardless of parties, is a lie. every fucking word out of their mouths. the truth just fills in the gaps or are Freudian slips.



if you are asking if i have compared the meta data b/n nations on each lie spread online and otherwise, sorry, i'm not your goy.

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cool cool.

its very much my lane and i felt a similar way to you until i read oleg kalugin's autobiography. career has exposed me to more of the spear tip for russian disinfo operations and theres no comparison between us and them in terms of volume, damage, etc. they rely on it for parity because our technical edge is essentially impossible to catch up with at this point.

given your background and opinions i understand why you probably find that hard to believe. and thats fine of course.

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name a few things which the Russians have put out there which you suspect have influenced me. like name any.

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cool cool.

its very much my lane and i felt a similar way to you until i read oleg kalugin's autobiography. career has exposed me to more of the spear tip for russian disinfo operations and theres no comparison between us and them in terms of volume, damage, etc. they rely on it for parity because our technical edge is essentially impossible to catch up with at this point.

given your background and opinions i understand why you probably find that hard to believe. and thats fine of course.

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name a few things which the Russians have put out there which you suspect have influenced me. like name any.

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if i see you bring up anything i can provide attribution on, i will do so.

https://x.com/HamasAtrocities/status...21794677735929


All those rabbis in east asia, you know.

Kalam is correct.

At least for the moment, there is not a majority on the right hating Israel.

That majority is in the online right, but not the actual right.

As recently as February 2025, 83% of Republicans viewed Israel favorably: https://news.gallup.com/poll/657404/...-israelis.aspx

And sure, some major loud voices on X such as Nick Fuentes, Dave Smith, Ian Carroll, and Candace Owens are pushing right-wing anti-Semitism. And yes, those are real people from the US. However, much of their message is being amplified by phony foreign accounts, which gives the average reader the impression that everyone on the right hates Israel.

That's the whole point. Normalize anti-Semitism, make non-anti-Semite conservatives feel like outsiders, and hope they abandon their support of Israel so they can feel like they belong.

Most of these anti-Israel arguments fall apart when you scrutinize them, most notably the fake genocide narrative.

I have no doubt that some right wing hicks who live by BCR hate the Jews. That's not the dominant narrative in the GOP. The big protests and rallies against Israel and Jews are always either Muslims or progressives. How many mass gatherings of right wingers have you seen to protest Israel?

I'm online a whole lot. I have been for almost 40 years. Every so often I give myself a reality check, and ask myself what the majority of mostly-offline people think, and compare to how it aligns with what I'm seeing online. Today more than ever, that disconnect is growing.