Anyone know how much the average PPP Loan amount was for?
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It is incredible what I am seeing. Multiple corporations that most likely had 0 payroll or were dormant and 50K/100K of forgiven loans. Have to see more about who did it, but it’s fucking ridiculous regardless. They got Beanz, but seems like small Beanz compared to stuff I’m seeing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SinglesHitter
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I knew you wouldn't let this crew of hcl frauds last long.
Careful not to piss of feldman and get barred from games if thats your thing.
Vertucci does everything he can to control the narrative around himself and his crew of scammers. Veronica fits in well with them.
It would be very satisfying to see you ask them some actual questions.
where is this info?Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffDimeIt is incredible what I am seeing. Multiple corporations that most likely had 0 payroll or were dormant and 50K/100K of forgiven loans. Have to see more about who did it, but it’s fucking ridiculous regardless. They got Beanz, but seems like small Beanz compared to stuff I’m seeing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SinglesHitter
I'm not anti-Hustler, and I'm not pro-Hustler.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowRollQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I knew you wouldn't let this crew of hcl frauds last long.
Careful not to piss of feldman and get barred from games if thats your thing.
Vertucci does everything he can to control the narrative around himself and his crew of scammers. Veronica fits in well with them.
It would be very satisfying to see you ask them some actual questions.
Vertucci and Feldman are fine with me right now. That's because I haven't jumped on the "Hustler is cheating" bangwagon, even though some have tried to push me onto it. I have taken the "I need to see evidence" approach.
This is why it's so laughable that someone like DGAF is whining that I'm trying to create drama. I've been the opposite of that when it comes to Hustler, and I ask one question about Nik Airball's sudden wealth, and DGAF gets pissed off.
Not that I care, though. I don't play on streamed games anymore. The Postle thing was a wakeup call.
druff quick question, when did you play on stream?
Not many times. I played Live at the Bike twice, and Stones once (just before the emergence of Postle, thankfully).Quote:
Originally Posted by nunbeater
The first Live at the Bike stream was where I ordered (and ate) 3 plates of food, which started all the jokes about how much I eat. Bart Hanson, who didn't know me at the time, was tricked into saying on stream that I was once a contestant on "Man Versus Food".
On the subsequent two stream appearances, I purposely ordered a lot of food just to keep up appearances.
Garrett Adelstein appeared with Doug today for nearly 2 hours, discussing Robbi and Nik Airball. He seemed more focused upon Airball, since Airball had been trashing him on Doug's show a few days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAarA3OUNc4
At around 18:30---yeah, there is either proof I was cheated or there isn't, asshole.
There's really no record to set straight. Garrett as much as admits he's keeping the money due to his firm belief that he is, "Extremely confident," that he was cheated. No proof of cheating came out. For some reason, the investigation made it a point of emphasis that they could not prove there was no cheating. (How could one, 'Prove' cheating didn't happen, anyway?)
Garrett believes that his opinion that he was probably cheated supersedes the fact that there was no evidence of cheating turned up. That is sufficient for Garrett not to return Robbi's money.
No record to set straight. Everything seems to be exactly as it appears.
If he returned the money and said he'd never sit at the same table as her in a cash game again, then that would be fine. It's pretty much about the money, from my perspective. I would disagree with his position, but I certainly wouldn't have written an article taking a steaming diarrhea on him for that.
Adelstein (rhymes with fine) said it very well in this interview, if they'd known how to cheat right, they could have made a lot of money (like graycat- dumb or greedy). Robbi is an idiot, though. Or the signaller, who I assume was Sagbigsal.
Maybe Adelstein is the idiot for blowing up over a hand when he was playing in the softest high stakes game in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerpiper
bro you can't play all loosey goosey with a sandwichQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffNot many times. I played Live at the Bike twice, and Stones once (just before the emergence of Postle, thankfully).Quote:
Originally Posted by nunbeater
The first Live at the Bike stream was where I ordered (and ate) 3 plates of food, which started all the jokes about how much I eat. Bart Hanson, who didn't know me at the time, was tricked into saying on stream that I was once a contestant on "Man Versus Food".
On the subsequent two stream appearances, I purposely ordered a lot of food just to keep up appearances.
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Originally Posted by nunbeaterbro you can't play all loosey goosey with a sandwichQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
the jewjew platterQuote:
Originally Posted by dwaiQuote:
Originally Posted by nunbeater
I dont really give a shit about poker drama but i did just quickly listen in on a Polk twitter space with Nik Airball and at the end of it Doug Polk offered to sweeten the pot and offered $100K if they would host the 1v1 at the Lodge
Not sure how he would monetize that but its sure to be a “good look” to make that offer. Seems like a lot of people want this to happen
The match may not happen now... and for a stupid reason.
Nik Airball wants someone to hold his hand during the match.
https://twitter.com/nikairball/statu...97548802281472
https://twitter.com/PhilGalfond/stat...08913512263680
https://twitter.com/PhilGalfond/stat...11015659651073
https://twitter.com/nikairball/statu...17644174143488
In case you don't feel like clicking through to read Airball's long tweet, here's what he wrote:
Quote:
Clarifications:
I have agreed to all Berkey’s requests to this point. I am coming to where he lives, Vegas, to play him much smaller stakes than I want. He originally offered every day for 30 days, I accepted then he changed the offer. He asked to play weekends, I accepted it. He asked for a 1mm stop loss not 2mm, I accepted it. He asked for only 100 hours of play not the 200 I requested, I accepted this. All the terms set forth were Berkey’s terms outside of the 100k min. He is the pro with a training site, claiming he has crushed high stakes. I’m the guy who just lost 1mm on stream tilting his brains out vs a bunch of amateurs. Most elite players would travel anywhere and meet my demands to get this opportunity.
Eshaan is my good friend, an ex engineer at Lyft and a current contracted engineer for Run It Once. I stated anyone watching match who has relationship would be asked to sit behind the player they support to ensure no verbal or visual cues, no phones or devices, no writing down hands, no coaching or helping in any way. I said I’m fine with Landon or whoever being there for Berkey if that makes him feel like it is more fair.
The reason I want this is: I am traveling alone from LA to Vegas, I believe that having a friend there to support me is completely reasonable. It has nothing to do with coaching or gaining an edge. Additionally, it is completely within casino rules to sweat a poker table. I have acted in good faith as @PhilGalfond can verify throughout negotiations. I don’t believe requesting terms that are outside of casino rules is a reasonable request. The King of LA will be at @PokerRoomRWLV at 2pm this Saturday with a fucking entourage.
Some are saying that Airball is insisting upon this term because he wants to back out of the match, and then be able to blame it on Berkey.
Some are saying that Airball is needing this friend to help him cheat in some way.
I believe neither of these are true. Instead, I think Airball realizes he's a tiltmonkey, and is afraid that he will tilt his face off in the heads up match with Berkey, unless he has a buddy with him to calm him down during the rough stretches. This is completely against the spirit of a heads-up grudge match. Some compared it to how you're allowed to have friends sit with you while playing live cash games, including at high stakes. This is true, but it's completely different, because normal cash games aren't grudge matches. People can bring all the emotional support they want, because it's just a regular poker game, and nobody is trying to prove any point or beat one particular player.
However, if you challenge Berkey because you say he sucks and has no business running a coaching site, and then can't stand being able to play him without an emotional support system present, that's a bitch move.
Shockingly Doug is carrying on about this heads up match being about him
Now we know why Airball wanted an emotional support human in the room when they play heads up.
https://twitter.com/Darrrkus/status/1641853538170208256
This occurred in Bobby's Room at Bellagio.
Airball just coming right back at Berkey on Twitter, claiming Berkey lost $100k today.
https://twitter.com/nikairball/statu...70488137363457
Been out of the loop a bit the last week. I saw Druff taking shit because he was inquiring about Airball’s sudden influx of huge money. Thought this tweet and Garrett chiming in was interesting.
https://twitter.com/GmanPoker/status...202565633?s=20
Nick Vertucci said on Twitter Spaces last night that Airball made his money from home games and quit his job.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffDime
Garrett should go back into hiding until he pays back the $135,000. I just don't see how he can show his face in a poker room until that happens.
Vertucci has proven to be a total gasbag. That is of course the best narrative for HCL & Nick. We have heard that story before. I don’t believe it. I don’t give much of a shit, I just don’t like being bullshitted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Small_Banana
Perkins made a great case for Garret to at least enter arbitration on Only Friends. The whole cast kept their mouth shut for the most part. Polk never said anything about what Garrett should do with the money and in the recent past neither has Berkey. Many top pros may have said so it should be returned in the past, but I don’t see many really pushing that narrative now.
Garrett has made it crystal clear he’s not returning the money and has blocked people who have even inquired about it. I don’t think everyone is necessarily afraid to say something. It’s just so clear Garrett is not returning the money that it’s almost a waste of time talking about it anymore. There is some major Robbi fatigue as well. I agree with Perkins and most probably do as well. It’s just not happening. Every stream outside HCL will do just about anything to get him on stream. People will move on from the dough imho.
a young, small stakes player from a few years ago is suddenly a huge baller with seemingly unlimited funds.
Doesn't this describe Rampage and Mariano?
Can’t make this up.
https://twitter.com/GmanPoker/status...671122432?s=20
https://twitter.com/The_Brownballa/s...03212123467778
:lol
I'm sure it was just a coincidence he was in the bathroom at the same time as Nik.
If this whole thing is a giant April Fools joke, it's one of the best ones ever.
So they've been playing every day at Resorts World. It started on April 1, and went for 3 straight days. I guess they took Tuesday off.
Berkey is up a little bit at the moment:
https://twitter.com/LandonTice/statu...38118630141953
Landon Tice has been posting a few updates, and a few hand histories, but he's very bad at it. Wish they had someone else reporting this stuff.
Anyway, one controversy has involved Nik Airball's bathroom breaks. He is repeatedly going to the bathroom for "breaks" every day, averaging about 10 per session. In the first one, Berkey saw he was actually meeting with that buddy he originally in the room (@The_Brownballa on Twitter). LOL!
Amazingly, despite them supposedly playing until a million dollars are lost on each end, or until the duration of the match is over (with a $10k penalty for quitting early), there's no money being escrowed.
Berkey is now concerned that he's being "reverse freerolled" -- and that Airball doesn't actually have a million dollars. Good point, and it's amazing that Berkey agreed to this without having the million dollars escrowed somewhere.
I suppose you could argue that this is still +EV for Berkey even if Airball is lying about having a million, because he still gets to play a supposedly inferior opponent heads up at high stakes, and the chips on the table are all backed by real money (there's no credit involved).
Still, the whole million dollar thing was dumb to establish if there's no escrow. I also don't know why the quitting penalty ($10k) was so laughably low.
https://twitter.com/OnlyFriends_Pod/...69138256240640
https://twitter.com/The_Brownballa/s...63690744569861
Not getting a good reaction,
Well done SS.
AI is crazy good with voice.Quote:
Originally Posted by simpdog
SS must be all twitchy thinking of the possibilities
Yeah well done video. Is this the first (partially) AI-generated poker video we've seen?
Airball is now up on Berkey by a little.
Details here: https://www.pokernews.com/news/2023/...date-43391.htm
In other news, Doug is claiming that he hates Berkey because Matt "lied about" Doug's business. While I did see Doug's video showing Berkey saying inaccurate things about The Lodge, that's not the origin story for why Doug hates Berkey. Doug has been bashing him for years, so there must be more to it.
https://twitter.com/DougPolkVids/sta...87283248873472
https://twitter.com/DougPolkVids/sta...99386001141760
https://twitter.com/DougPolkVids/sta...91990457446403
https://twitter.com/DougPolkVids/sta...98135985217537
A little later, Doug did admit that this story "wasn't the entire timeline":
https://twitter.com/DougPolkVids/sta...93487530344450
In the meantime, Eric Persson is trying to inject himself into this, and the community isn't going for it. This latest "challenge" was met with mostly negative responses.
https://twitter.com/ASchwartzPoker/s...93357174865921
I’m sure Polks issues have zero to do with the whole they both run competing poker training sites
Srslysrs is the trump card in all of this. Held by Polk. Dude has skills.
Srsly made two very good videos during this whole battle -- the bashing of Solve for Why and the recent AI-generated Rounders parody.Quote:
Originally Posted by tigerpiper
However, I don't think that's going to be enough to save Doug here. While Srsly's first video temporarily turned the tide back over to Doug's favor, Doug is now shooting himself in the foot again.
As I said on radio, Doug's whole "MUH EMPLOYEES" justification for attacking Berkey is fooling nobody, and is just angering people. While Berkey is seen by some as an arrogant douche, there's no question that he's got a great reputation for honesty and integrity. Additionally, it is clear to most people that Berkey is playing defense here -- people are attacking him, not the other way around. And that's consistent with Berkey's entire brand, where he really doesn't pick fights with others in the industry.
Doug is coming off as a bully here, and what's even worse, he's not even being honest about his motivations. Instead of just plainly stating, "I've never liked Berkey and always thought he was a douche for X and Y reasons", we are getting these lol excuses about how he's just trying to protect his employees from Berkey's criticism of The Lodge. For a guy who is usually straightforward and direct, Doug is being surprisingly disingenuous here. It's like he's afraid to admit he just plain hates Berkey and always has, so he had to dig for a flimsy reason to justify the most recent wave of attacks on him.
Doug would be best advised to just drop this whole matter with Berkey. And if he doesn't want to drop it, at least be honest that he's simply attacking a guy he's never liked. The "I'm doing it for the people working for me" is just off-putting to read, and nobody is buying it.
It is possible that, when this whole thing is over, everyone will come out looking worse. If Berkey loses to Airball, he will forever be dogged by allegations of being a phony and a fish. Airball already has turned off a ton of people with his behavior, win or lose. Doug has already turned off a lot of people -- including longtime fans -- with his weird obsession with attacking Berkey. Eric Persson has long jumped the shark, and people are tired of his chest-pounding roided "I'm keeping it real and I own 27 casinos" routine.
What a mess.
dog pok is gay, poker is gay, whoever this black airbud guy is, is gay, srslysrs is gay but he's good with video and kinda funny, unban ss, don't be gay