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Kary Mullis - The Inventor of the PCR - Nobel Prize winner
Luc Montagnier- 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his discovery of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV).[4] He worked as a researcher at the Pasteur Institute in Paris and as a full-time professor at Shanghai Jiao Tong University in China.[5]
Peter Mcullough - Most published cardiologist in history
Edward Dowd - former BlackRock Executive Portfolio Manager.
Harvey Risch, MD, PhD
Professor Emeritus and Senior Research Scientist in Epidemiology (Chronic Diseases); Affiliated Faculty, Yale Institute for Global Health
Jayanta "Jay" Bhattacharya (born 1968) is an Indian American[2] professor of medicine, of Economics, and of Health Research Policy at Stanford University, and the director of Stanford's Center for Demography and Economics of Health and Aging. His research focuses on the economics of health care.
Mike Yeadon -He previously served as the chief scientist and vice-president of the allergy and respiratory research division of the drug company Pfizer
All just making shit up right? Fucking dork.
During the COVID-19 pandemic, Bhattacharya has been an opponent of lockdowns and mask mandates.[6][7] With Martin Kulldorff and Sunetra Gupta, he was a co-author in 2020 of the Great Barrington Declaration, which advocated lifting COVID-19 restrictions on lower-risk groups to develop herd immunity through infection, while promoting the promise that vulnerable people could be protected from the virus.[8][9][10] The declaration was widely rejected, and was criticized as being unethical and infeasible by Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the director-general of the World Health Organization.[11]Quote:
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GUESS WHO WAS RIGHT?
This guy
The Twitter Blacklisting of Jay Bhattacharya
The social-media platform revealed that many had been censored and shadow-banned.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-twi...ip-11670621083
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...496945665?s=20
YOU'RE A RETARD
SHUT YOUR TRAP
HEAD OF WHO - YOU ARE A KNOW NOTHING FAGGOT - GET WRECKED
Covering up an epidemic
Going through Tedros’s resume, a carefully curated document for his bid for the post of director general of the WHO, it is interesting to note that there is a suspiciously hasty mention of his time as Ethiopian health minister—the seven key years of his professional career as a health minister and the primary qualification for his bidding. Yet these seven years are condensed into three points qualifying a little more than a passing mention.
While there is well deserved credit for expanding health infrastructure (although geographically selective), and the work on reducing HIV and malaria mortality, there is a curious omission of the epidemic of cholera in his resume.
Digging a little deeper, it is evident that Tedros was on a campaign to rewrite his questionable past on this aspect. Three disastrous cholera outbreaks occurred in Ethiopia (2006, 2009, 2011) under this watch as health minister. The response under Tedros was to first rechristen the outbreak to something less damaging. So cholera was suddenly—and wrongly—classified as acute watery diarrhoea (AWD) in the outbreaks in Ethiopia.
AWD is a potentially fatal condition caused by water infected with the vibrio cholera bacterium. Everywhere else in the world it is simply called cholera. But not in Ethiopia, where international humanitarian organisations privately admitted that they were only allowed to call it AWD and are not permitted to publish the number of people affected.
Tedros was apparently concerned about the international impact if news of a significant cholera outbreak were to get out, even though the disease is not unusual in East Africa.
But cholera bacteria were found in samples tested by external experts. As soon as severe diarrhoea began appearing in neighbouring countries, the cause was identified as cholera.
Somalia, which borders Ethiopia, battled a severe outbreak and a vaccine was deployed. However, the vaccine could not be released for Ethiopia without the government confirming that it was cholera.
Not only was there a strong allegation of Tedros covering up three cholera epidemics in his country and thus endangering surrounding states, he supposedly did this just to avoid international embarrassment. The terminology affected whether outside health organisations would marshal resources to fight an outbreak of the deadly bacteria.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qowDwaYx7vI
Bayer AG (/ˈbaɪ.ər/, commonly pronounced /ˈbeɪər/;[3] German: [ˈbaɪɐ]) is a German multinational pharmaceutical and biotechnology company and one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world. Headquartered in Leverkusen, Bayer's areas of business include pharmaceuticals; consumer healthcare products, agricultural chemicals, seeds and biotechnology products.
THIS IS THEIR CEO saying
"...the mRNA vaccines are an example for that cell & gene therapy... If we had surveyed... Would you be willing to take gene or cell therapy and inject it into your body... We would probably have had a 95% refusal rate."
Total assets Increase €120.241 billion (2021)
Total equity Increase €33.168 billion (2021)
Number of employees
99,637
YOU TOOK
GENE THERAPY
FAGGOT
Call me a nut all you like, Idc.
Lick my balls
There was a lot of dumb things that took place during the scamdemic like closing down beaches and parks but the dumbest of all was denying natural immunity. I couldn't believe the liberals were trying to push that narrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I have a feeling OK2 is rooting for the vaccinated to start dropping dead. He is foaming at the mouth waiting for it. I won't be one of them...no chance I was taking those clot shots.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ng-mainstream/Quote:
Originally Posted by Small_BananaThere was a lot of dumb things that took place during the scamdemic like closing down beaches and parks but the dumbest of all was denying natural immunity. I couldn't believe the liberals were trying to push that narrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Anti-Vaxxers Have a Dangerous Theory Called “Natural Immunity.” Now It’s Going Mainstream
https://twitter.com/kieraevebutler
:lol2
Just the ones who pushed it on others/got excited about restricting basic freedoms or gave it to their kids, fuck them. It's not looking great so far. Why would the complicit admit fault now? Keep lying, people don't want to know anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Small_Banana
It is collectivism vs western rugged individualism. Too much of either is far from optimal IMO.
One can easily go find legit peer-reviewed studies at a far greater amount that in general support the "liberal" side.
So if I was to spend all this time flooding this forum with far more references supporting liberal side - what is the scenario where I actually win?
Let me give an analogy about a lot of this crap. This sort of plays out all over the place in regards to these things.
Lets say there are a 100 people all complaining about some side-effect of the vax. (totally making this up.) Now the right would say that they all need to be heard but what about when it comes out 90 are just psychosomatic but 10 had actual side effects.
But wait !! these 10 people weren't heard. They were "censored" by the media!! Get out the pitchforks !!
BUT what about the 90 people who also weren't heard from ? Well they were all wrong. That is easy to forget.
What would have happened if all 100 reported symptoms became news-worthy at msm level ? Doesn't seem positive to me.
Same thing can be applied to Hunter's laptop. She cried Wolf too many times. Sling shit on wall enough and some sticks. That sorta thing.
People on the right have a lot of valid gripes in this but overall they seem to look at it quite wonky.
Then you have nutbags like OK2.
The Replication Crisis: An OverviewQuote:
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The replication crisis, also known as the reproducibility crisis and the replicability crisis, is a crisis that impacts the methodology of scientific research. Over time, it has been realized by several bodies that the results of many scientific studies are hard or almost impossible to accurately reproduce. The reproducibility of empirical data is essential for the scientific method, so difficulties in reproducing the results of a study or theory undermine its credibility.
Because of this, valuable scientific knowledge may be lost. The peer-review process is an integral part of scientific research, and if the data cannot be reproduced it cannot be validated. The crisis particularly affects the medical and social sciences. Considerable efforts in these fields have been performed into revisiting classic results, confirming their viability, and assessing the reasons for their failure if they are found to be unreliable. There is strong evidence from survey data that the crisis impacts every natural science field.
Growing awareness of the problem led to the term being coined in the early 2010s. The identification of the issue and considerations of causes and remedies have led to the new scientific discipline of metascience which uses empirical research methods to examine empirical research practices.
Both obtaining and analyzing data are involved in empirical research. Because of this, there are two categories of consideration concerning reproducibility. Reproducibility is the validation of the analysis and the interpretation of the data. Repeating an experiment or study to obtain new independent data which verifies the results of the original study is called replication.
Who do you think funds most medical research? Big pharma. Faggot brain.
"New documents show that the U.S. is still funding gain of function research. The Daily Caller has uncovered evidence that the NIH is still keeping the money flowing to Wuhan… in secret. Well less secret now because we're going to talk about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STui_n-ad7A
Well Bill Gates and the WHO have ran a simulation of the next pandemic, coming soon to a government near you in 2025. The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation conducted another pandemic tabletop exercise in Brussels, Belgium, on October 23, 2022. The phenomenon is dubbed SEERS, Severe Epidemic Enterovirus Respiratory Syndrome 2025. You ready?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk9Nd4uhJQg
You're ignoring the dataQuote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
You are the nutbag I have decided, poof! you're discredited. No need to argue
Ignore the PROOF of LIES
You're a clown.
THE TWITTER FILES: HOW TWITTER RIGGED THE COVID DEBATE
– By censoring info that was true but inconvenient to U.S. govt. policy
– By discrediting doctors and other experts who disagreed
– By suppressing ordinary users, including some sharing the CDC’s *own data*
People on the left propagated liesQuote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
Here's a lefty who was vaccine injured personally (Jimmy Dore)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q5XI3qXptU
Lies?Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
Go ahead faggot
Exposed
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medi...n-america.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don’t want you to know about
Published Thu, Feb 22 20189:31 AM ESTUpdated Wed, Feb 28 20189:38 AM EST
Key Points
A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000.
Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.
STFUQuote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
No he is not. It is just incredibly sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Small_Banana
The ones who knew how dangerous they were potentially and pushed the safe and effective lie I do (doubt they took anything and there's evidence all over to support that) hoping for the best for anyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthisNo he is not. It is just incredibly sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Small_Banana
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/...medium=reader2
People who have received mRNA Covid vaccines are at least twice as likely to be infected with the coronavirus as unvaccinated people, according to two new papers from researchers in Indiana and Ohio.
Worse, the newer of the two studies, which covered Omicron this fall, found risk actually rises with the number of shots.
People who had received three or more shots were more than three times as likely to be infected as those who hadn’t received any.
:baddecision
https://www.theyliedpeopledied.com/
On March 7th my partner Josh Stirling, former #1 ranked sell side insurance analyst, created the now infamous millennial excess death chart ( full PDF below )
sourced from CDC data which showed an 84% spike of excess mortality into the Q3 vaccine mandates by the Biden administration and the lockstep follow on by schools, colleges and corporations.
Between March of 2021 and february of 2022, 61,000 millennials died excessively above the prior 5 year base trend line.
Guy who encouraged him to write this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPdVMdFCMj8
In the 1980s, together with the United States Marshals Service, de Becker co-designed the MOSAIC Threat Assessment Systems,[6] which is used to screen threats to justices of the Supreme Court of the United States, members of United States Congress, and senior officials of the Central Intelligence Agency. Los Angeles County Law enforcement agencies adopted MOSAIC in 1997 to help police manage and reduce spousal abuse cases that might escalate to homicide.[7]
In 1983, he investigated a stalker for Olivia Newton-John, Sheena Easton, and Cher.[8][9] He also provided his services to celebrities like Richard Burton, Dolly Parton, Jane Fonda, Joan Rivers, Victoria Principal, Tina Turner, and John Travolta
donkdowndied obviously knows better than this guy.... :lol2
https://www.amazon.com/Cause-Epidemi.../dp/1510776397
2020 saw a spike in deaths in America, smaller than you might imagine during a pandemic, some of which could be attributed to COVID and to initial treatment strategies that were not effective. But then, in 2021, the stats people expected went off the rails. The CEO of the OneAmerica insurance company publicly disclosed that during the third and fourth quarters of 2021, death in people of working age (18–64) was 40 percent higher than it was before the pandemic. Significantly, the majority of the deaths were not attributed to COVID.
A 40 percent increase in deaths is literally earth-shaking. Even a 10 percent increase in excess deaths would have been a 1-in-200-year event. But this was 40 percent.
And therein lies a story—a story that starts with obvious questions:
What has caused this historic spike in deaths among younger people?
What has caused the shift from old people, who are expected to die, to younger people, who are expected to keep living?
It isn’t COVID, of course, because we know that COVID is not a significant cause of death in young people. Various stakeholders opine about what could be causing this epidemic of unexpected sudden deaths, but “CAUSE UNKNOWN” doesn’t opine or speculate. The facts just are, and the math just is.
The book begins with a close look at the actual human reality behind the statistics, and when you see the people who are represented by the dry term Excess Mortality, it’s difficult to accept so many unexpected sudden deaths of young athletes, known to be the healthiest among us. Similarly, when lots of healthy teenagers and young adults die in their sleep without obvious reason, collapse and die on a family outing, or fall down dead while playing sports, that all by itself raises an immediate public health concern. Or at least it used to.
Ask yourself if you recall seeing these kinds of things occurring during your own life—in junior high? In high school? In college? How many times in your life did you hear of a performer dropping dead on stage in mid-performance? Your own life experience and intuition will tell you that what you’re about to see is not normal.
Debunk all of this with your 'liberal' sources getting toasted by each passing day you fucking idiot
"You're a nutbag"
No you have a nutbag resting over your eyes you got nothing and you keep ignoring all of these PROVEN LIES
Show me where they're (These sources) lying?
You can't?
Fuck off
A picture says a thousand words. There are graphs of data and medical studies to back up the thesis that the COVID vaccines are causing more deaths and disability overall. Also after a period of time the vaccines cause more COVID deaths.
This was anticipated by the Canadian COVID Care Alliance (CCCA). The Canadian COVID Care Alliance is a group of doctors, scientists and health professionals. The CCCA did a video and a written report explaining the Pfizer trial data on the British Medical Journal (BMJ).
In the 16 and older Pfizer trial more people died and got sick with the vaccine overall. But less people got sick and died with COVID. Reducing overall sickness and death overall should be end goal, not just reducing COVID sickness and death. It is kind of sneaky how the report was written with 2 of the authors from BioNTech, Pfizer's vaccine partner. Nevertheless the FDA should have not approved the 16 and older vaccine.
In the 12-15 year old trial, 12 year old girl Maddie de Garay loss the use of her legs, is wheel chair bound and has to eat through a feeding tube. She was only one of a 1,005 vaccinated. She was hospitalized within 24 hours of receiving the vaccine. Her symptoms were reported as an abdominal pain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2GKPYzL_JQ
Pfizer has the least near term deaths per vaccination, than Moderna, Johnson and Johnson the most. This according analysis of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting system (VAERS) done by Steve Kirsch's Vaccine Safety Research Foundation.
This means the trial data of Moderna and Johnson and Johnson is even worse or rigged more.
The FDA has conflicts of interest, and protects big pharma more than the public. For example the FDA wanted 75 years for a full release of the Pfizer Comitnaty data. Comitnaty is the fully licensed version of the Pfizer vaccine. Comitnaty is not sold in the US, because that would void the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the original Pfizer vaccines.
The FDA gets 75% of it's drug related funding from big pharma. The former FDA top commissioner Stephan Hahn is now working for Moderna's venture capital investor. The previous FDA commissioner is now on Pfizer's board. Former FDA deputy director Curtis Wright IV helped Purdue Pharma market the opioids as less addictive. Wright than went to work for Purdue Pharma about a year after he left the FDA.
The Health/Pharmaceutical lobby is the biggest industrial lobby in the US. Medical related expenses are about 20% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP). It's a big racket.
The information in this book is censored by big tech like Google and YouTube. They are part of marketing a new several billion dollar market.
There is hope for the vaccine injured and also early treatment for COVID. Frontline COVID Critical Care (FLCCC) Alliance is a nonprofit group of physicians and scholars is a good place to start. They use drugs and remedies with a proven safety record.
Edward Dowd - www.theyliedpeopledied.com
Endorsed by this nobody, just ignore it.
De Becker has shared his philosophies about prevention of violence in several appearances on The Oprah Winfrey Show, 60 Minutes, Larry King Live, 20/20, The Jordan Harbinger Show, and Sam Harris's podcast, Waking Up. He has also been profiled in Time and Newsweek, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and others. De Becker's first book, The Gift of Fear, published in 1997, was a US number 1 bestseller on The New York Times Bestseller List.[citation needed]
Also in 1997, his firm was hired by Bill Cosby to investigate the murder of his son, Ennis, and the threatening letters his family received after the slaying.[15]
In 1999–2000, he assisted the United States Secret Service in the development of its guide for Protective Intelligence and Threat Assessment Investigations.[16]
In 2008, Oprah Winfrey dedicated a show to commemorate the ten-year anniversary of the publication of The Gift of Fear. In the last year of her show, she dedicated two hour-long shows to de Becker's work in domestic violence.[17]
In March 2019, de Becker, who has worked for Jeff Bezos, accused the Saudi Arabian government of hacking Bezos' phone after the National Enquirer published a story about Bezos's extramarital affair. According to the BBC, de Becker, as Bezos' top security staffer, "linked the hack to The Washington Post's coverage of the murder of Saudi writer Jamal Khashoggi at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul."[19] The Daily Beast ran an op-ed, in which de Becker explained the matter of the Saudi hack in detail.[20] Journalist Brad Stone explored whether the Saudi hack was linked in any way to a National Enquirer article about Bezos having an affair.[21] United Nations Special Rapporteur Agnes Callamard conducted an investigation of the Saudi hack. In a public statement, she referred to information that suggested a WhatsApp account belonging to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman was used to deploy digital spyware on Bezos' phone, "in an effort to influence, if not silence" The Washington Post's reporting on the kingdom. A United Nations report noted that "the iPhone infiltration occurred from May to June in 2018, when the phones of Jamal Khashoggi's associates, Yahya Assiri and Omar Abdulaziz, were also hacked, allegedly using malware called Pegasus." The UN experts stated: "During the same period, Mr. Bezos was widely targeted in Saudi social media as an alleged adversary of the Kingdom. This was part of a massive, clandestine online campaign against Mr. Bezos and Amazon, apparently targeting him principally as the owner of The Washington Post.
Who are you again?
Chump
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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
I have repeatedly stated for the past 3 years that COVID became too political, and that both sides developed their own partisan, fucked up approach to the whole thing.
Not surprisingly, each side took extreme and misleading positions, which directly contradicted those on the other side. The result was that both political sides were putting out misinformation, which ended up equally harmful, albeit in different ways.
The right:
- Denied COVID was a real problem, and compared it to the flu
- Became overly obsessed with mask hatred, and presented it as a symbol of lost freedom
- Refused to trust the vaccine regardless of the data, and constantly pushed misleading information regarding its dangers and limitations
- Pushed obvious misinformation on social media
- Continues to push the narrative that the vaccine is still causing a massive number of people to mysteriously drop dead
The left:
- Intentionally created unnecessary fear of COVID, especially aimed at the healthy under-35 crowd which was never in any real danger from it
- Tied masking to safety, despite zero credible studies proving the efficacy of cloth masks
- Refused to acknowledge the legitimate risk people were taking by injecting a new, unstudied vaccine into their bodies, while at the same time denying the obvious benefits of natural immunity
- Censored legitimate discussion of COVID issues on social media, because it threatened their narrative
- Continues to push the narrative that COVID is an ongoing and major risk, despite the fact that deaths of people under 65 have dropped to nearly zero
Which side was worse?
Take your pick.
Viral pandemics are rare enough to be counted on one hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffQuote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
I have repeatedly stated for the past 3 years that COVID became too political, and that both sides developed their own partisan, fucked up approach to the whole thing.
Not surprisingly, each side took extreme and misleading positions, which directly contradicted those on the other side. The result was that both political sides were putting out misinformation, which ended up equally harmful, albeit in different ways.
The right:
- Denied COVID was a real problem, and compared it to the flu
- Became overly obsessed with mask hatred, and presented it as a symbol of lost freedom
- Refused to trust the vaccine regardless of the data, and constantly pushed misleading information regarding its dangers and limitations
- Pushed obvious misinformation on social media
- Continues to push the narrative that the vaccine is still causing a massive number of people to mysteriously drop dead
The left:
- Intentionally created unnecessary fear of COVID, especially aimed at the healthy under-35 crowd which was never in any real danger from it
- Tied masking to safety, despite zero credible studies proving the efficacy of cloth masks
- Refused to acknowledge the legitimate risk people were taking by injecting a new, unstudied vaccine into their bodies, while at the same time denying the obvious benefits of natural immunity
- Censored legitimate discussion of COVID issues on social media, because it threatened their narrative
- Continues to push the narrative that COVID is an ongoing and major risk, despite the fact that deaths of people under 65 have dropped to nearly zero
Which side was worse?
Take your pick.
Not for a single minute did I consider the Covid threat nor the actions recommended to fight it as politically biased.
The world over, was and is in step with the only people qualified to make such recommendations....scientists.
Americans are lost.
edit. You, not Americans, are lost if you think an elected representative/ furniture store owner is the one to listen to.
Todd -Quote:
Originally Posted by limitlesViral pandemics are rare enough to be counted on onQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
e hand.
Not for a single minute did I consider the Covid threat nor the actions recommended to fight it as politically biased.
The world over, was and is in step with the only people qualified to make such recommendations....scientists.
Americans are lost.
edit. You, not Americans, are lost if you think an elected representative/ furniture store owner is the one to listen to.
Seems like a balanced take I don't really disagree with. With once in a lifetime pandemics, I'd rather err on side of caution. I still feel medical system would have completely collapsed for some period of time and likely had a larger exodus of people. Instead more burden was placed on small businesses. I was always more sympathetic to medical establishment because they are directly involved with my well-being.
limitles seems to be underrated as a poster. His approach is rough but in the few threads I've read here in past few weeks he seems like a solid contributor.
It is jolting and hard to comprehend when a deadly global health issue is relegated to bipartisan politics. Luckily, the majority on this planet are not so consumed.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonediedTodd -Quote:
Originally Posted by limitles
Seems like a balanced take I don't really disagree with. With once in a lifetime pandemics, I'd rather err on side of caution. I still feel medical system would have completely collapsed for some period of time and likely had a larger exodus of people. Instead more burden was placed on small businesses. I was always more sympathetic to medical establishment because they are directly involved with my well-being.
limitles seems to be underrated as a poster. His approach is rough but in the few threads I've read here in past few weeks he seems like a solid contributor.
Also luckily, this forum represents a small percentage of American voters. These alternate viewpoints are now in place.
So you take a rushed experimental gene therapy for a low IFR virus for anyone under 60 or not already unhealthy?Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonediedTodd -Quote:
Originally Posted by limitles
Seems like a balanced take I don't really disagree with. With once in a lifetime pandemics, I'd rather err on side of caution. I still feel medical system would have completely collapsed for some period of time and likely had a larger exodus of people. Instead more burden was placed on small businesses. I was always more sympathetic to medical establishment because they are directly involved with my well-being.
limitles seems to be underrated as a poster. His approach is rough but in the few threads I've read here in past few weeks he seems like a solid contributor.
You so smart.
:lol2Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonediedTodd -Quote:
Originally Posted by limitles
Seems like a balanced take I don't really disagree with. With once in a lifetime pandemics, I'd rather err on side of caution. I still feel medical system would have completely collapsed for some period of time and likely had a larger exodus of people. Instead more burden was placed on small businesses. I was always more sympathetic to medical establishment because they are directly involved with my well-being.
limitles seems to be underrated as a poster. His approach is rough but in the few threads I've read here in past few weeks he seems like a solid contributor.
You ignore the man leading the response was involved in the cause? and his wife was his ethics watchdog?Quote:
Originally Posted by limitlesViral pandemics are rare enough to be counted on one hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Not for a single minute did I consider the Covid threat nor the actions recommended to fight it as politically biased.
The world over, was and is in step with the only people qualified to make such recommendations....scientists.
Americans are lost.
edit. You, not Americans, are lost if you think an elected representative/ furniture store owner is the one to listen to.
Drink another bottle and secure your helmet, retarded looking Justin Shronk lookalike (who looked partially retarded himself)
LMAOQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffQuote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
I have repeatedly stated for the past 3 years that COVID became too political, and that both sides developed their own partisan, fucked up approach to the whole thing.
Not surprisingly, each side took extreme and misleading positions, which directly contradicted those on the other side. The result was that both political sides were putting out misinformation, which ended up equally harmful, albeit in different ways.
The right:
- Denied COVID was a real problem, and compared it to the flu
- Became overly obsessed with mask hatred, and presented it as a symbol of lost freedom
- Refused to trust the vaccine regardless of the data, and constantly pushed misleading information regarding its dangers and limitations
- Pushed obvious misinformation on social media
- Continues to push the narrative that the vaccine is still causing a massive number of people to mysteriously drop dead
The left:
- Intentionally created unnecessary fear of COVID, especially aimed at the healthy under-35 crowd which was never in any real danger from it
- Tied masking to safety, despite zero credible studies proving the efficacy of cloth masks
- Refused to acknowledge the legitimate risk people were taking by injecting a new, unstudied vaccine into their bodies, while at the same time denying the obvious benefits of natural immunity
- Censored legitimate discussion of COVID issues on social media, because it threatened their narrative
- Continues to push the narrative that COVID is an ongoing and major risk, despite the fact that deaths of people under 65 have dropped to nearly zero
Which side was worse?
Take your pick.
misinformation?
Check out these right wingers.
:facepalm4
OK2 I think you're wasting your time trying to persuade these folks. They can only see things though a political lens and can only respond with political arguments and talking points and name calling while trying to sound intelligent by saying things like "err on the side of caution" without having any respect for those who err on the side of caution by taking a different or opposite approach. As for this poster he goes out to eat with sick people and can't remember last time he wore a mask so what you're really dealing with is a hypocrite simply looking for an argument. If you read what he says its actually nothing of substance without any original thoughts or insights.Quote:
Originally Posted by OK2So you take a rushed experimental gene therapy for a low IFR virus for anyone under 60 or not already unhealthy?Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
You so smart.
I'm pretty sure its just a Khalawat dupe. Dwai would know.
Thanks broQuote:
Originally Posted by country978OK2 I think you're wasting your time trying to persuade these folks. They can only see things though a political lens and can only respond with political arguments and talking points and name calling while trying to sound intelligent by saying things like "err on the side of caution" without having any respect for those who err on the side of caution by taking a different or opposite approach. As for this poster he goes out to eat with sick people and can't remember last time he wore a mask so what you're really dealing with is a hypocrite simply looking for an argument. If you read what he says its actually nothing of substance without any original thoughts or insights.Quote:
Originally Posted by OK2
I'm pretty sure its just a Khalawat dupe. Dwai would know.
I literally dubbed myself a schizophrenic shit poster because :internetseriousbusiness
Todd has sunk cost denial bad. The evidence of excess deaths and suspicious deaths and a lot IN YOUNG PEOPLE after the 'vaccine' and the lack of interest in addressing it by the same scaremongering media, government and pharma companies and dr's profiting massively is OBVIOUS.
I'm not citing crazies, they are legit and have no incentive really to go against the overwhelming power of the mainstream narrative, a lot of them took the shots for fucks sake. Just ignored. So many proven lies and attempts to cover up and blatant corrupt conflicts of interest. Can't ignore it forever. I'm done, waste of time.
My antagonistic approach is clearly not provoking any reflection but hopefully it's been entertaining for everyone who doesn't worship the bullshit demigod status of 'experts' who were fucking wrong about way too much not to fucking admit, fucking faggots.
If I made these points his response would have been much different
"The left:
- Intentionally created unnecessary fear of COVID, especially aimed at the healthy under-35 crowd which was never in any real danger from it
- Tied masking to safety, despite zero credible studies proving the efficacy of cloth masks
- Refused to acknowledge the legitimate risk people were taking by injecting a new, unstudied vaccine into their bodies, while at the same time denying the obvious benefits of natural immunity
- Censored legitimate discussion of COVID issues on social media, because it threatened their narrative
- Continues to push the narrative that COVID is an ongoing and major risk, despite the fact that deaths of people under 65 have dropped to nearly zero"
Todd -
Seems like a balanced take I don't really disagree with
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Such a clownworld.Quote:
Originally Posted by country978OK2 I think you're wasting your time trying to persuade these folks. They can only see things though a political lens and can only respond with political arguments and talking points and name calling while trying to sound intelligent by saying things like "err on the side of caution" without having any respect for those who err on the side of caution by taking a different or opposite approach. As for this poster he goes out to eat with sick people and can't remember last time he wore a mask so what you're really dealing with is a hypocrite simply looking for an argument. If you read what he says its actually nothing of substance without any original thoughts or insights.Quote:
Originally Posted by OK2
I'm pretty sure its just a Khalawat dupe. Dwai would know.
You're the juggling faggot!Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonediedSuch a clownworld.Quote:
Originally Posted by country978
I'm in my 30's and never voted.
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