I know it's tough when your cognitive dissonance kicks in, and you feel anger. But you can do better.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwai
more blueanon shit from pfas biggest dumb fuckQuote:
Originally Posted by khalwat
I know it's tough when your cognitive dissonance kicks in, and you feel anger. But you can do better.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwaimore blueanon shit from pfas biggest dumb fuckQuote:
Originally Posted by khalwat
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Originally Posted by khalwatI know it's tough when your cognitive dissonance kicks in, and you feel anger. But you can do better.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwai
Since Tucker accurately predicted what you and your fellow liberals dismissive response would be to fed involvement in Jan 6th (Q anon) and Greenwald accurately predicted that you and your fellow liberals simply wouldn't be able to accept criticism of the FBI. Thanks for your reply, without it there would still be doubts about what happened on Jan 6th.Quote:
Originally Posted by khalwat
I can now confirm with almost absolute certainty that Jan 6th was heavily infiltrated with Federal agent provocateurs (how could it not be) and without their presence guiding the crowd and operatives removing fencing and signs the Capitol most likely would of been unscathed.
Khal I use the term Liberal loosely, there was a time not long ago when I considered myself and Greenwald to be Liberals. I guess you can refer to us as Realists, we're the few who can suppress our bias and remain totally objective, totally fact based and reach the most likely conclusion in a sea of the world's most advanced propaganda. It's not at all rare to find ourselves disliked by both sides of the political spectrum.
Sorry, not sorry.
I guess the next question is should we care? On one hand how could anybody possibly believe a single word out of Trump's mouth, he's literally a man of a million lies. It's these gullible dumb fucks who the Republican party have manipulated for decades into supporting policies that have all but destroyed the United States and turned the whole world into a corporate dictatorship and a economy largely based on war.
Otoh there's that old cautionary tale 'first they came for the blank and i didn't object because I'm not a blank...
I think we should all be concerned about these people being railroaded but then again what are you gonna do, vote for Ted Cruz hahahahah oh the Trumptards will i'm sure.
Me personally I guess i'll get my popcorn and enjoy the show and hope for the best.
Khalawat, you’re arguing with the mentally ill. You have an old lady who can’t get laid despite working out 24/7 who has a child’s understanding of the world, a basement incel who had 5 posts until Covid gave his failure an excuse, and an old man who is in a wheelchair and lives in a van. That’s who you’re trying to convince. No judgement. I’ve argued with them. You’re just dealing with white trash on a whole different level than you can imagine. It’s pointless. These people are the shit that sticks to your shoe in some dive bar in Arkansas. You’ve never met anyone as stupid in real life.
says the guy who lives in his dad's backyard shed and has never accomplished anything besides doing coke and sluts in a dirty Ohio one hour hotel.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
you calling anyone white trash is rich. try going back to your fake mafioso personality instead of your current TDS one.
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Originally Posted by BCR
i think the important part of this revelation is when he realizes that the median poster in this community really doesnt have much going on beyond what you described.
I gotta admit. As someone who got married young and has since lived a life of typical middle class desperation I have thoroughly enjoyed living vicariously through BCR's stories of his more exotic life.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwai
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Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by BCR
i think the important part of this revelation is when he realizes that the median poster in this community really doesnt have much going on beyond what you described.
Lol at the lifelong losers with no family. This is the problem. When you have no future, your underlying wish is for those who have one to not have one.
So I watched the whole video and I never saw this guy one time on the capitol grounds. I don't see him pushing on the barriers. I don't see anything that would be a clear conviction. Maybe some sort of inciting charge? Even then all he seemed to say was "go inside" or some variant on it. That is pretty questionable. After the lead up to this, I was really expecting far more.
It seems more like people believing what they wanted to believe.
Can someone point me to one of these 700 indicted/charged people who did less than what we see in the video?
Manson didn't commit murder. He incited others to do it. Epps didn't go in. He incited others to go in.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
BCR is a bonified libtard. No facts to put forth so he calls names and thinks that will work. Idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
It seems more like people believing what they wanted to believe.
Exactly
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Greenwald's right
"Investigative journalist Glenn Greenwald said the only reason to call potential FBI involvement in the January 6th Capitol Riot a "crazy conspiracy theory" is if you're either "completely ignorant" of what the FBI does or lying on purpose to cover up for the FBI."
You and Khalawat need to check a box.
[ ] You're completely ignorant on how the FBI works
or
[ ] You're lying on purpose to cover up for the FBI."
or
[ ] You've been misled by MSM's biased coverage of the event
FWIW, if there was consistent precedent for treating politically motivated rioting harshly, this circus would be a lot more palatable. The problem is we went through a full year of the entire Democrat establishment, including the FBI, encouraging (or at best looking the other way) toward politically motivated rioting they felt was beneficial to them.
And then they are following an entire year of Democrat sponsored rioting with this gaslighting performance by throwing the book at the Jan 6th rioters. It really shows they view the purpose of the law and law enforcement as tools to use towards their own benefit and to punish their political adversaries, and nothing more. And I find this completely unacceptable. I voted for Joe Biden. I am not a fan of Trump or anything he stands for. I view much of the Republican Party as white collar criminals only interested in lining their own pockets.
But when the next ballot comes I feel I am going to just bubble in R straight down the row, and keep doing this until the Democratic Party realizes they serve us, not the other way around, and the purpose of government is not merely to use it to serve their own interests and punish their political adversaries.
I don't understand what you're talking about. The argument is the guy should be prosecuted because of 700 other people have been prosecuted for lesser cimes. Footage is shown of the guy, but he's never doing all that much. I want a direct comparison to others. "This person got x years for this, which is less than this guy telling people 'go inside' when he doesn't even appear to be on the capitol grounds."Quote:
Originally Posted by EntropyQuote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
It seems more like people believing what they wanted to believe.
Exactly
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Greenwald's right
"Investigative journalist Glenn Greenwald said the only reason to call potential FBI involvement in the January 6th Capitol Riot a "crazy conspiracy theory" is if you're either "completely ignorant" of what the FBI does or lying on purpose to cover up for the FBI."
You and Khalawat need to check a box.
[ ] You're completely ignorant on how the FBI works
or
[ ] You're lying on purpose to cover up for the FBI."
or
[ ] You've been misled by MSM's biased coverage of the event
I watched the video hoping to actually see evidence of this guy being a fed (false flag op). I honestly expected him being in the capitol or something but no, it was all the sort of thing that if I was a prosecuter I'd probably just pass on. I have no problems believing the FBI or some agency might do such a thing, but I just want actual evidence. Thats what some people like to have, yanno?
There is fake news then there is the fakest of fake news and everything in between.
I'll have to dig up the Revolver article and wade through the nonsense to see if there is anything actually there.
He's far left along with you're buddy Sobchak, Sloppy Soy, Sonatine, Khalwat, JimmyG, DavidUSF, InspectorGadget, Gimmick, Marley etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmBCR is a bonified libtard. No facts to put forth so he calls names and thinks that will work. Idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
There was a definite plot on Jan 6th and Epps was a part of it. And the other provocateurs, Fence Cutter Bulwark, Northwest Scaffold Commander and Black Ski Mask, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonediedI don't understand what you're talking about. The argument is the guy should be prosecuted because of 700 other people have been prosecuted for lesser cimes. Footage is shown of the guy, but he's never doing all that much. I want a direct comparison to others. "This person got x years for this, which is less than this guy telling people 'go inside' when he doesn't even appear to be on the capitol grounds."Quote:
Originally Posted by Entropy
I watched the video hoping to actually see evidence of this guy being a fed (false flag op). I honestly expected him being in the capitol or something but no, it was all the sort of thing that if I was a prosecuter I'd probably just pass on. I have no problems believing the FBI or some agency might do such a thing, but I just want actual evidence. Thats what some people like to have, yanno?
There is fake news then there is the fakest of fake news and everything in between.
I'll have to dig up the Revolver article and wade through the nonsense to see if there is anything actually there.
Were they feds or were they right wing operatives? That's what I want to know. I don't want main stream media bullshit lies. I want the truth.
Who the fuck were the operatives on Jan 6th? It's been over a year. They are all on video. Why haven't they been identified. WTF is wrong with the FBI? The FBI did not publicly identify Epps. Online sleuths identified him.
The only thing sonatine and BCR know about it came thru the head of Anderson Cooper's penis. They think the bullshit they get from the lefty press is gold. Gullible people.
Yea the Democrats were supporting riots that could possibly expand and destroy anyone's home or business. There was never a chance of the Capitol riots expanding at all much less nationwide. I'm skipping out on voting unless say Tucker Carlson runs or someone like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalam
And Biden did steal the election but not from Trump, from Bernie.
Bernie's the one they feared so a couple billionaires and Obama teamed up to rig the primary.
Had they not rigged it the superdelegates would of been forced to show their hand and there'd be no more pretending we live in a democracy.
It was a close call but they pulled it off and everything's going as planned.
Buttigage has been rewarded with a cushy job.
Record defense spending, record debt, record corporate and billionaire wealth, the border is wide open and new wars are about to pop off all over the globe.
Well played
[QUOTE=sonatine;1021532]Dude, what are you doing here? The garbage cans are full and the mens room needs cleaning. Get back to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
Sounds like Sonatine and BCR need to get off that Cooper cock !Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThere was a definite plot on Jan 6th and Epps was a part of it. And the other provocateurs, Fence Cutter Bulwark, Northwest Scaffold Commander and Black Ski Mask, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
Were they feds or were they right wing operatives? That's what I want to know. I don't want main stream media bullshit lies. I want the truth.
Who the fuck were the operatives on Jan 6th? It's been over a year. They are all on video. Why haven't they been identified. WTF is wrong with the FBI? The FBI did not publicly identify Epps. Online sleuths identified him.
The only thing sonatine and BCR know about it came thru the head of Anderson Cooper's penis. They think the bullshit they get from the lefty press is gold. Gullible people.
Operatives are fascinating and important for people to know. All this manipulation stuff is good for almost no one. If people really saw the world for what it is then we would surely be better off. So any operatives being unmasked is a positive.
I'm not saying the FBI wouldn't do it. They've done similar things in the past I'm sure. However I also realize that people are going to come up with the deep-state conspiracy these days and try to manufacture something out of scant evidence. No one can accept that the Jan 6th was a semi-violent 0 chance of succeeding attempt at a coup. If the people there had been told the coup was on and they were needed to stand in they would have surely lined up to do so. Giving them 2-4 years seems completely fine because I don't want to see that shit attempted again anytime soon.
i'd be surprised if there was less than 300 agents and informants at the event and that's a low estimate. I think Trump may of been in on it and until he's charged he'll always be suspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThere was a definite plot on Jan 6th and Epps was a part of it. And the other provocateurs, Fence Cutter Bulwark, Northwest Scaffold Commander and Black Ski Mask, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
Were they feds or were they right wing operatives? That's what I want to know. I don't want main stream media bullshit lies. I want the truth.
Who the fuck were the operatives on Jan 6th? It's been over a year. They are all on video. Why haven't they been identified. WTF is wrong with the FBI? The FBI did not publicly identify Epps. Online sleuths identified him.
The only thing sonatine and BCR know about it came thru the head of Anderson Cooper's penis. They think the bullshit they get from the lefty press is gold. Gullible people.
He's not what the media claims he is and it'd be a cold day in hell that the avg Trump supporter would be allowed to enter Mar a logo or be anywhere near Trump. He totally despises most of his supporters. He used to rip off construction contractors all the time.
This is the real Trump, still at 1200 views.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W3ZQe8MEkI
Independent journalist Taylor Hanson is not exactly a right winger. His news stories have been carried by NPR and Huffpost. He was beaten while covering a left wing riot in Salt Lake City. One of the participants was left wing agitator John Earle Sullivan. Subsequent to that Sullivan did a false flag at DC on Jan 6, inciting others to enter the capitol. And he himself entered the capitol filming as he went. He was the one that filmed Ashli Babbit being shot.
Hanson, who was at DC on Jan 6 reporting the events said he saw a group dressed in black bloc change to Trump gear then attack police and enter the capitol. That didn't fit the MSM narrative so they started doing hit pieces on Hanson. His story has pretty much been squashed by MSM.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1479850773588623366
The John Sullivan film at the capitol on Jan 6. You can hear him as he exhorts the Trumpies to enter the capitol and he does so himself. He's all charged up by the FBI for it which blows out of the water the MSM narrative that only Trumpsters were there.
https://youtu.be/PfiS8MsfSF4
Well Khalawat doesn't believe in agent provocateurs.
This is the guy who filmed Ashley Babbit's murder, he was paid $90k by news organizations for his footage and then the Feds seized it.
HE WANTS IT BACK.
CNN even interviewed him, this guy volunteered to be an AP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8Pl564BnfA
I found an account of Jan 6 by J. Michael Waller who was there that day. Very interesting account. He was at the Capitol to observe the crowd for anything subversive going on.
"J. Michael Waller is senior analyst for strategy at the Center for Security Policy. His areas of concentration are propaganda, political warfare, psychological warfare, and subversion. He is a former professor at the Institute of World Politics, a graduate school in Washington, DC. A former instructor with the Naval Postgraduate School, he is an instructor/lecturer at the John F Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School at Fort Bragg."
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...OhFf04xybsfcuO
Mission Accomplished! As Greenwald's been warning this whole Jan 6th charade is about a new war on terror, domestic terror.
There it is.
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Originally Posted by EntropyMission Accomplished! As Greenwald's been warning this whole Jan 6th charade is about a new war on terror, domestic terror.
There it is.
Great so they are going after the Antifa soldiers carrying explosives about to literally bomb a large group of people. Right?
Oh yea they might prosecute them but I suspect in the name of equity the domestic terror designation will be reserved exclusively for white people.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustlerQuote:
Originally Posted by EntropyMission Accomplished! As Greenwald's been warning this whole Jan 6th charade is about a new war on terror, domestic terror.
There it is.
Great so they are going after the Antifa soldiers carrying explosives about to literally bomb a large group of people. Right?
Still the same stuff. Who else was prosecuted for not being on capitol grounds and all talk? "Go inside" is so incredibly vague it'd be hard to prosecute. I'm not seeing any gotchas here. She's not going to confirm or deny - that is clear. So there is nothing to be gleaned from this unless you're a short bus rider. The guys pushing on the barricade were all doing it regardless of Epps from the video. The other guy just joins people already doing it. Maybe Epps told the guy to push on barricade and maybe not. Was that person convicted? What did they say? These things would be more interesting. Listening to Lying Ted get in his soundbites is annoying. I'm almost positive he grew out a beard because people with beards are seen as more trustworthy. Trying hard to not be lyin Ted.
**Parents who show up and complain about curriculum at local school board meetings obvQuote:
Originally Posted by EntropyOh yea they might prosecute them but I suspect in the name of equity the domestic terror designation will be reserved exclusively for white people.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/edu...rrorists-email
The over riding concern is about whether Epps was acting alone, or was a fed operative, an operative for some right wing group, or a false flag operative for some left wing group.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
No, that was local police that caught the left wing terrorist and identified their motives. The FBI is doing the "Raised by Wolves" routine and claiming they cant figure out the person's motive. And the MSM and the rest of the left wing establishment is just ignoring the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustlerQuote:
Originally Posted by EntropyMission Accomplished! As Greenwald's been warning this whole Jan 6th charade is about a new war on terror, domestic terror.
There it is.
Great so they are going after the Antifa soldiers carrying explosives about to literally bomb a large group of people. Right?
Of course if it was the opposite, a right wing terrorist planning a bomb attack on a left wing rally, the entire cabal of media, big tech, academia, and big D would be up in arms outraged and it would be wall-to-wall coverage.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThe over riding concern is about whether Epps was acting alone, or was a fed operative, an operative for some right wing group, or a false flag operative for some left wing group.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
My point here is that the evidence given where people say he should have clearly been indicted over is not necessarily such. What is this guy's role would be interesting to know. He has clearly made a name for himself. I don't think we necessarily get to know though as much as we'd like. If there is reasonable evidence he was a fed, then this should be pursued. Maybe a legitimate journalist could investigate it?
Seeing how I'm a man dedicated to the truth, According to NBC News I'am wrong about Ray Epps
Don't tell Khalawat either.
>https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...nas/ar-AASGftC
The House committee investigating the attack on the Capitol sought to dismiss a right-wing conspiracy theory by announcing Tuesday it had interviewed Ray Epps, who was seen trying to egg on protesters ahead of the Jan. 6 riot, and saying he told lawmakers he was not a federal agent.
The panel also subpoenaed a trio of Trump allies as it continues its months-long probe into the origins of the attack.
Epps has been the focus of far-right allegations that instead of being a Trump supporter he was working with the federal government, seeking to provoke violence.
"The Select Committee is aware of unsupported claims that Ray Epps was an FBI informant based on the fact that he was on the FBI Wanted list and then was removed from that list without being charged," the committee said in a statement. "Mr. Epps informed us that he was not employed by, working with, or acting at the direction of any law enforcement agency on January 5th or 6th or at any other time, and that he has never been an informant for the FBI or any other law enforcement agency."
Epps was seen on video the night of Jan. 5 asking others to "go into the Capitol" the following day before others began chanting "Fed, Fed, Fed," at him. In footage from Jan. 6, Epps shouted to those nearby: "OK folks, spread the word! As soon as the president is done speaking, we go to the Capitol. The Capitol is this direction," Politifact reported."
I guess we'll have to take their word for it
It's weird how the DOJ is refusing to answer, they need to because if it's true they might as well drop the charges on 90% since they were entrapped.
Ok how about scaffold commander and the FenceCutterBulwark.
As Revolver reported many people consider Scaffold Commander to have much more influence on the crowd.
I really hope they're not lying or using clever wording to deceive the public.
Here's a 7 minute video of Cruz questioning Olson and Sanborn. The FBI is looking pretty bad on this one:Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
https://youtu.be/ePxjwXAIf2E
Sen. Tom Cotton also asking questions about Jan 6:
https://youtu.be/CiDqA-X_-n4
So Fucking what? You are a worst kind of RWer, because you know they are lying.
At least you can imagine DWAI, & his butt buddies are stupid enough to buy these lies, you aren't.
LOL, so this is "the proof" that Trump won? That Joe couldn't get anyone to a rally (in a pandemic)?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Maybe Trump's CARAVAN full of criminals & diseases should have just stayed home.
They never proved SHIT. If he could've proved it, he would've had big name attorneys presenting his case not that clown show of D lister's repping him.
Get over it. Trump lost and no one was at the Capitol on 1/6 but Trump loving traitors to their country (& cop haters).
Trump ends NPR interview when pressed on election lies
“How come Biden couldn’t attract 20 people for a crowd? How come when he went to speak in different locations, nobody came to watch, but all of a sudden he got 80 million votes? Nobody believes that, Steve," Trump said. "Nobody believes that.”
“If you’ll forgive me," Inskeep replied, "maybe because the election was about you.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cut...160442433.html
The only people who should be mad are the Bernie supporters, they got robbed again.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415So Fucking what? You are a worst kind of RWer, because you know they are lying.
At least you can imagine DWAI, & his butt buddies are stupid enough to buy these lies, you aren't.
LOL, so this is "the proof" that Trump won? That Joe couldn't get anyone to a rally (in a pandemic)?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Maybe Trump's CARAVAN full of criminals & diseases should have just stayed home.
They never proved SHIT. If he could've proved it, he would've had big name attorneys presenting his case not that clown show of D lister's repping him.
Get over it. Trump lost and no one was at the Capitol on 1/6 but Trump loving traitors to their country (& cop haters).
Trump ends NPR interview when pressed on election lies
“How come Biden couldn’t attract 20 people for a crowd? How come when he went to speak in different locations, nobody came to watch, but all of a sudden he got 80 million votes? Nobody believes that, Steve," Trump said. "Nobody believes that.”
“If you’ll forgive me," Inskeep replied, "maybe because the election was about you.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cut...160442433.html
In a fair election with fair media coverage Bernie would of kicked Trump and Biden's ass with moderate ease.
They covered it up by giving constant media coverage to Trump & co's constant barrage of baseless claims of election fraud.
So much so the people who really did get robbed (Bernie supporters) have an almost subliminal reaction of disgust and divisiveness toward any talk of election theft lol.
Well played, I really thought they'd be more resistant to brainwashing.
Edit: And it's provable, heck it wasn't even hidden. If the MSM doesn't cover it then it may as well not exist.
If it wasn't for Wikileaks Hillary would of been able to plausibly deny rigging the primary too.
Wrong thread, Jimmy. This thread isn't about the election. It's about whether the feds were involved in the riots on Jan 6th.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyG_415So Fucking what? You are a worst kind of RWer, because you know they are lying.
At least you can imagine DWAI, & his butt buddies are stupid enough to buy these lies, you aren't.
LOL, so this is "the proof" that Trump won? That Joe couldn't get anyone to a rally (in a pandemic)?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Maybe Trump's CARAVAN full of criminals & diseases should have just stayed home.
They never proved SHIT. If he could've proved it, he would've had big name attorneys presenting his case not that clown show of D lister's repping him.
Get over it. Trump lost and no one was at the Capitol on 1/6 but Trump loving traitors to their country (& cop haters).
Trump ends NPR interview when pressed on election lies
“How come Biden couldn’t attract 20 people for a crowd? How come when he went to speak in different locations, nobody came to watch, but all of a sudden he got 80 million votes? Nobody believes that, Steve," Trump said. "Nobody believes that.”
“If you’ll forgive me," Inskeep replied, "maybe because the election was about you.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-cut...160442433.html
Who dat
A remarkably coge stock trader she is.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthis
Who dat