Why should they listen to Druff? You clearly aren’t
Also this has aged well:
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Originally Posted by DanDruff
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Because I am not the one starting mob pile threads here and attacking other members. When you see me doing that, hammer me. I stay respectful here and contribute. Im not the problem here and Im trying to get Druff to open his mind and see the wider picture. He knows the son on the school yard example was perfect, so he wont address it. Me- I dont believe in public humiliation attack threads, its lame. I also dont believe in airing your dirty laundry here, not healthy, so I am giving a new perspective.
Lets break it down again- Someone starts an roast/attack thread. The victim defends himself in it. So then the admin takes a hard left turn and brings in a new angle of now its "posts too much". Had this attack thread never been started, the new side issue would have not been introduced. But suddenly, its my fault again, right?
Druff- If you allow attack threads, you gotta let the intended recipient defend himself and not jump in as the admin siding with the mob. Now youre the school yard principle that just broke up the fight and blaming the innocent kid that got suckered punched by the bully and rewarding the bad behavior of the bully and blaming the kid who was the intended victim. What a crappy school principal, right?
That's not really how it works.
With both the radio show and the forum, I run them more for other people than for myself. Sure, I get something out of them too, but I don't ever want to force something upon people that they hate.
If I get a lot of people complaining that a recurring radio segment sucks, and little positive feedback on the same segment, I will get rid of it, even if I enjoy the topic myself. (This is why bitcoin and poker legalization talk has been reduced to a minimum -- the audience as a whole didn't like it.)
Similarly, if most people on the forum think the same way about something or someone, I need to show some respect to the userbase and try to rectify the problem. If I say, "Tough shit, this is the way it is, deal with it", then everyone will leave. At the same time, if it's just a few people complaining, I still listen, but I'm less likely to jump to action.
I have heard the complaints about you loud and clear. I can understand them, and the users here aren't being unreasonable. In short, you post too much (more than everyone else), and you get hostile when anyone criticizes your posting style. The problem is further worsened by the fact that you're a newer poster here, so you don't even get the benefit of being a longstanding member of the community who is flawed but accepted.
Here you're basically a new guy trying to tell eveyrone else how it is, and that doesn't fly here.
I've never been one to rule the forum with an iron fist. I try to let everyone be themselves, and I don't cave to the mob demanding someone gets banned, just because they're unpopular at the moment.
However, they are raising fair points about your posting habits. If I were to deny it and say that they're just unfairly attacking you, I wouldn't be honest, because I don't feel it's unfair. I fully understand their complaints, and there's a lot of validity to them.
I SEE DESERTRUNNER STILL OWNING HEADS AND PUTTING YOU FAGS ON THE TILT O WHIRL PER USUAL
Well, I had to do it.
I didn't want to do it, but I had to do it.
desertrunner has been put on post restriction. He is now restricted to 7 posts per day, and cannot create new threads.
This also means he's done for the night, as he has far more than 7 posts today. I'm not sure when the timer resets -- I forget how I designed it years ago. (This wasn't a standard feature in vBulletin, sadly.)
Anyway, sometime tomorrow he can post again, but he can only make 7 posts per day, and no new threads. We'll see how that goes. If it appears he's eventually fitting in better, I'll remove the restriction.
Pains me to have to do this, but for whatever reason he's just not making an effort to fit in with the userbase here, and with everything else going on, I don't want to deal with the stress of this too.
If someone is post restricted can they just repeatedly edit one of their own posts?
I ask because if you restricted him before posting that you did, then it appears he simply edited a post after that. Not maliciously because it was only a minute apart and he probably wasn’t even aware. I was more wondering than anything.
Almost posted a few hours ago at least we haven't seen p**o in awhile. There went that.
Yes, there's a few-hour window for editing posts, and post-restricted people can do it too.
However, if this is abused in order to circumvent the post restriction, I'll take that away. If he's simply editing one of his posts because he wants to edit something, that's fine.
Imagine if desert boy was black and and stopped for driving with a broken tail light.
When everyone else is the problem it’s you.
Trust me, I wish desertrunner was as good of a PFA poster as he is a friend.
I really do like the guy as a person, but he's just not "getting it" with PFA. It's also too bad because sometimes he brings some good stuff here. Even some of his news links were decent, such as the NY Post editorial he used for bumping the Stern thread. That's good stuff. If that was him all the time here, there would be no complaints (as long as he didn't overpost).
Oh well.
If I preached anything while raising my kids it was, “root for the underdog”. Have some empathy for those who are unlucky.
Druff will teach his son to “bet” the underdog.
It is against my nature to pick on those who are challenged. I have been silent on the desertrunner thing.
Something just felt off. I suspected that Druff’s relationship was more of a sponsor. I have my desertrunners too. However, Druff doesn’t seem too inspired to spare his feelings - so fuck it.
Here’s an example - the explanation is plain to me
Ask yourself, how can a guy who is a friend of Druff’s for 10 years not be familiar with “Dex” & Tyde?
If I had a friend who had a radio show I suspect I might give it a listen. If I liked Druff I probably would listen often. It would be impossible to have missed Drexel. Likewise, if he ran a forum and I lurked for years how could I not be exposed to Tyde? The 5 most notable characters in in the forum trilogy would certainly include Tyde.
I do not think desertrunner has any idea who comprises this forum and why. The shared experience and history. The history resulting in “made” guys. Guys who made this fucking thing worth reading and following. Because he is oblivious he has zero respect. Id rather he thanked them and went on his way.
He is not wired to pick up social queues.
His posts about objects and his struggle to navigate any kind of community whether in the real world or PFA are painful. You even had The_Shrink finally forced to his knees - forced to declare the obvious diagnosis.
DR’s fumbling around with the Tyde issue is cringeworthy. A little frightening cause you don’t know just how off he might be. I feel bad for the guy. I feel bad for anyone who still reads this shit. If Druff restricted or banned desertrunner he might have spared him. It would sting a little but now it’s out of control. I’m not real sure Druff scores high in the empathy department.
My take is that Druff is coincidentally sacrificing his buddy for forum drama. It’s gone on far too long. It’s a “forum hits” strategy that has backfired.
Desertrunner isn’t the singular problem with PFA. He’s more of a symptom of the illness.
I’m gonna feel bad when I push “submit” but I’ve been quiet and I won’t comment again.
Lol, I push submit and Druff acted seconds before.
Screw it. I enter it into evidence.
Again, it was not me that started this thread. I did not attack anyone, so the goal post had to be moved to find a violation and it was suddenly- “he posted too much today”. Um, yeah, I responded to this specific thread with all of the posts written about me, hence the rise in posts for today only. To be honest, Druff had to side with the rage mob to retain credibility here or lose it.
Think of this thread as a prison and Druff is the head warden. The rage mob of inmates attacked an innocent prisoner and then it comes down to the warden who wants to stay in good with the prison population, so he disciplines the single innocent prisoner instead of the mob members that started the event.
Again, I didn’t start this thread, I didn’t attack anyone, I didn’t break any board rules, but the mob had to be satisfied or the admin would take the next mob hit and lose face. Never, ever bend a knee to the rage mob, never sell out. If the school principal sided with the bullies on the school yard against Druff’s son, THEN he would be pissed and throw the BS flag.
Well I guess it must have reset already. Maybe it happened at midnight EDT?
I really forget how I made this thing work all those years ago, and I don't feel like digging into the code to figure it out.
But I guess that's 1 of the 7 above.
I actually knew the EDT question was going to come up here when my post was seen.
But Druff, am I wrong or are we gonna to turn a blind eye to the logic? If I am wrong, I will admit and accept it. Can you respond to any example I’ve given above? I think the prison warden example is perfect. Or the school yard bully.
I love breaking down events to people in the simplest of terms and then see the “Ah ha” look in their faces. It’s just something I love doing.
Again, I didn’t start this thread, I didn’t attack anyone, I didn’t break any posted group rules and my post count is high because I responded to all of the attack posts in here. So then we move the goal posts and change the charge to justify some sort of discipline. Does that seem fair to you at all? I’m just curious.
Willie Dixon - Don't Tell Me Nothin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPTuCY27t8k
Trust me, I get it. You have to side with the mob here to save credibility. In want you to see that its not fair to discipline an innocent person and fold to the rage mob. I’ve explained it so well here do many times and you allowing these attack-humiliation threads just don’t help nor are fair. There was no “over posting” issue until this rage mob dog pile thread was started, and you let it happen. But some how, some way, its suddenly my fault??
you seriously get 7 posts a day and that's what you spend it on? Like what if you make 7 posts about dogpile and then a sweet new flashlight hits? you're fucked
Yeah this thread is why you have so many posts.
You have 582 posts in the last month despite being banned two days
1106 posts in last 3 months
You had 29 posts in October 2020.
Since then you have 2300 posts.
That’s with Druff deleting multiple threads and one giant thread and a whole forum which probably comprised at least another 300 posts. He’s deleted multiple threads and a magnum opus of a thread all about you and your mental deficiencies and inability to interact like a normal human.
Even a complete loser like dwai who lives here 24/7 has only made 660 posts in the last 3 months.
It’s not exactly shocking people have fled the site when just since January 1, the 2 biggest losers on the site have made 2660 posts, probably closer to 3000 with all the deleted threads that people have had to wade through.
Dwai has never actually made a useful post and those are all since your 1 useful flashlight thread that occurred before then.
Like 3k posts of absolute garbage from 2 guys with a combined IQ of maybe 175 and that’s being generous.
Since 1/1/2020, dwai has made 4298 posts. He was a rep monkey before that and you don’t even know who Drexel and Tyde are.
To put that in perspective, I felt like I posted more than I ever have the last year, everyone was bored. To find my 4298th post that dwai equaled since 1/1/2020, I had to go back to 5/16/2013.
I looked at someone like Crowe. He’s basically the same. 8 years ago.
Someone like sloppy joe doesn’t have as many posts in 9 years as dwai has since 1/1/2020.
Someone like gut who feels like he has always been around has 3300 posts.
Someone like jimmyG who gets mocked for his Kaepernick thread and anti fox posts has less posts than you and has been here 9 fucking years.
These are all people I think of as active posters for the most part. Come and go at times, but always part of the forum.
People bitched about mumbles like crazy and you have to go back to December of 2017 to find as many posts as dwai has since 1/1/2020
There are so many days you open the forum and it’s the same two losers as the last post in almost every thread. No site can survive that level of faggotry.
When Druff wonders why people are fleeing in droves and will continue to, that’s 1A and 1B. Two huge fags intent on trolling and posting idiocy 24/7. Just unreadable. Every piece of shit right wing meme and garbage straight from Facebook to here.
You are horrible, but leaving dwai alone to ruin the forum is just as bad. You’re horrible and awkward, but Druff says you aren’t trying to ruin the forum. Dwai clearly was always intent on destroying the forum since he started posting. He’s why people were already leaving and why your arrival was so poorly timed as you’re just more of the same garbage as him.
You can’t link a single post of dwai’s that was ever useful. You have a few, but it’s 99% garbage.
It’s a desert/dwai forum now 24/7. Anyone that pops in, that’s all they see. If Druff wonders why it’s called an alt-right shithole, just look at the numbers.
At this pace, Druff is 100% correct there won’t be anyone left but him, you two losers that live here 24/7, and a bunch of shitty dupes. The place will be done in six months. I’m shocked this many have hung on this long for the desert/dwai show, but the forum isn’t going to be around if it isn’t dealt with.
You can’t have two shit posters that are just basically the same alt right memes and garbage posts dominating the forum to that degree.
The only two guys who could ever post at that volume and well are Druff, who owns the joint and sonatine, who is universally the best writer any of the forums ever saw. You can’t have fucking you and dwai posting at that volume and survive.
Druff might as well close the site if he doesn’t put a serious leash on both you fags permanently.
Right now for most who have read for years they click and open site, last post in every thread is desert and dwai all down the page, close the site. Maybe pop into a sports thread as it’s the only thing you losers aren’t interested in being gay basement dwellers.
I’ve posted more the last year than ever. Look at you. 24/7. Get out of your basement and do something. You have done nothing but bitch about a lockdown when you never leave your basement. Go outside for once. There will be shitty right wing memes tomorrow to steal and regurgitate here.
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2) People who are here only to ruin the forum with trolling or constant negativity
3) People who "take over" the forum by posting too many messages/threads or pick fights with everyone
https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...ted-1-23-2016)
3) No more "Walter is a pedo" accusations
7) Don't attack every single person who criticizes you, or otherwise it becomes a situation where most of PFA becomes you fighting with all of the regulars here.
hey dessert runner for what its worth, I think you are a good new poster here
Don't take this all personally. We take a little while to get adjusted too probably LOL.. You seem like an honest and good guy imo and we need some new perspectives here imo and now you are one. Dont take any of this all personally, just listen to your friend as Druff is probably trying to help guide you along here now heh, but welcome Dessert Runner. Oh and I know i call you dessert runner, but thats because im my head you are the dessert that PFA has long been needing heh.. And dont ever take me joking with you calling you the dessert runner as anything negative its actually a compliment in that, you are the Dessert now PFA needs, hang in there bud..
So to me youll always be the dessert runner =)
hey dessert runner for what its worth, I think you're a faggot
Sanlmar gets it. It's never a good idea to psychologically profile strangers on the lol-internet especially if you've only observed a narrow band of their behavior on an 8th-tier poker forum. Who knows what they're like in "real life." But.....
At first I thought this might be all performative and some kind of coordinated effort with Druff to wake up the forum but clearly that's not it. I agree with Sanlmar's assessment that "He is not wired to pick up social queues." Try to view DR's posts through a different lens and it all kind of makes sense. Read between the lines.
on east coast time he already has probably a dozen or more posts today, and we can chalk that up to a likely clock discrepancy and see what's what tomorrow, but maybe the module you are using is just broken or something? He's clearly able to start new threads.
https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...4-29-years-ago