Central time zone cold spell -- southern Texas in the 10s

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Rick Perry has always been an idiot, C student back when A&M was a joke of a school...but he’s right, I’m willing to put up with this mess to save thousands each year. Obviously some people feel differently.

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And you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But blaming the problem on what Democrats did in 1935 when the Republicans have been in complete control of Texas for 25 years and could have changed it at any time is ridiculous.

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I said people blaming the republicans now for something done by Dems in 1935 makes no sense...which it doesn’t, and I never blamed the Dems...I like the lack of feds.

Why does LA have power outages too, they are on the impervious national grid? People act like there has never been a power outage before...#captainhindsight

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And you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But blaming the problem on what Democrats did in 1935 when the Republicans have been in complete control of Texas for 25 years and could have changed it at any time is ridiculous.

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I said people blaming the republicans now for something done by Dems in 1935 makes no sense...which it doesn’t, and I never blamed the Dems...I like the lack of feds.

Why does LA have power outages too, they are on the impervious national grid? People act like there has never been a power outage before...#captainhindsight

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But it makes sense to hold the people in charge right now responsible for things that are happening right now, and hold them responsible for doing something about it.

Why don’t the people of Texas just fly to Cancun?

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

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Originally Posted by Texter

I said people blaming the republicans now for something done by Dems in 1935 makes no sense...which it doesn’t, and I never blamed the Dems...I like the lack of feds.

Why does LA have power outages too, they are on the impervious national grid? People act like there has never been a power outage before...#captainhindsight

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But it makes sense to hold the people in charge right now responsible for things that are happening right now, and hold them responsible for doing something about it.

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So. let's hold DeBlasio, Cuomo and AOC responsible for the dangerous shithole NYC has become. And let's do the same for Pelosi for the dumping ground San Francisco has become. And let's blame Biden/Harris for COVID-19

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

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I said people blaming the republicans now for something done by Dems in 1935 makes no sense...which it doesn’t, and I never blamed the Dems...I like the lack of feds.

Why does LA have power outages too, they are on the impervious national grid? People act like there has never been a power outage before...#captainhindsight

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But it makes sense to hold the people in charge right now responsible for things that are happening right now, and hold them responsible for doing something about it.

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So you basically admonish every Democratic Chicago Mayor for the non-stop Murder wave? Of course you don't they are Democrats so it doesn't count, right?

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

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Like everything in the 2020s, this is getting needlessly political.

The GOP is blaming Democrats for their insistence upon green power, which they claim wasn't sufficient for this cold spell. Democrats are blaming "Republican policies like deregulation" for causing this.

In reality, it's just good ol' fashioned government incompetence.

A decade ago, the federal government warned Texas that they needed to "winterize" power plants to prevent another disaster like this. They didn't. They failed to protect the power generation from ice and cold weather, and as a result, a lot of it went offline during the extreme cold.

In short, Texas had enough power generation capacity, but a lot of it broke in this time of need.



George P. Bush, by the way, is Jeb's 44-year-old, half-Hispanic son who spoke at the 1988 and 1992 Republican National Conventions, in an effort to appeal to Hispanic voters.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/bus...d-15955392.php

Sad!

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Why is it "needlessly" political? Solutions that can help prevent this kind of problem have been blocked by Republicans who now want to point the finger anywhere but at themselves. They've been in complete control of Texas for 25 years now. Shouldn't their leadership carry some of the blame? Republicans were giddy when California had electricity supply problems before and blamed the Democrats running California, and to be fair they deserved some of the blame since they were in charge.

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Interesting that the political consequences are "needless" when Republicans are in charge.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veOPrDAGLqE

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But it makes sense to hold the people in charge right now responsible for things that are happening right now, and hold them responsible for doing something about it.

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So you basically admonish every Democratic Chicago Mayor for the non-stop Murder wave? Of course you don't they are Democrats so it doesn't count, right?

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Lol yes, when you look at the thriving black communities in Chicago, Baltimore, and Detroit you can see why the democratic party obviously cares for minorities.

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So you basically admonish every Democratic Chicago Mayor for the non-stop Murder wave? Of course you don't they are Democrats so it doesn't count, right?

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Lol yes, when you look at the thriving black communities in Chicago, Baltimore, and Detroit you can see why the democratic party obviously cares for minorities.

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You will never get an honest answer from someone like this dude. He says he is rich, and likely is, I mean you really have to be a dumb mutherfucker not to be rich when the federal government is loaning free cash to anyone with a pulse. Guy is still very angry. Very Angry.

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Why don’t the people of Texas just fly to Cancun?

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Because Mexico is a shithole country where you can't drink the water and only the wealthy have the basics of civilization.

Kind of like Texas right now.

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But it makes sense to hold the people in charge right now responsible for things that are happening right now, and hold them responsible for doing something about it.

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So. let's hold DeBlasio, Cuomo and AOC responsible for the dangerous shithole NYC has become. And let's do the same for Pelosi for the dumping ground San Francisco has become. And let's blame Biden/Harris for COVID-19

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AOC doesn't run NYC. Pelosi doesn't run SF. Biden/Harris have been in office less than one month. They are doing something about COVID.

The Republicans have been running Texas for 25 fucking years, this has happened there before, and now it's happening again.

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But it makes sense to hold the people in charge right now responsible for things that are happening right now, and hold them responsible for doing something about it.

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So you basically admonish every Democratic Chicago Mayor for the non-stop Murder wave? Of course you don't they are Democrats so it doesn't count, right?

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Chicago is poorly run and the leadership there absolutely bears some responsibility for what's happening there.

But the difference between the energy grid and the murder rate is that the energy grid can be directly controlled by the people running the state, whereas murder is individual behavior that is less controllable. They're not comparable.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veOPrDAGLqE

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I love you buddy but I hate that song, I hate that artist.

I hate everything, except Mom

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veOPrDAGLqE

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I love you buddy but I hate that song, I hate that artist.

I hate everything, except Mom

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I hate everything except bottomset's mom.

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So. let's hold DeBlasio, Cuomo and AOC responsible for the dangerous shithole NYC has become. And let's do the same for Pelosi for the dumping ground San Francisco has become. And let's blame Biden/Harris for COVID-19

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AOC doesn't run NYC. Pelosi doesn't run SF. Biden/Harris have been in office less than one month. They are doing something about COVID.

The Republicans have been running Texas for 25 fucking years, this has happened there before, and now it's happening again.

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derrrrrep

literally doing nothing

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I love you buddy but I hate that song, I hate that artist.

I hate everything, except Mom

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I hate everything except bottomset's mom.

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I want to die now, in the perfect moment ty

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

AOC doesn't run NYC. Pelosi doesn't run SF. Biden/Harris have been in office less than one month. They are doing something about COVID.

The Republicans have been running Texas for 25 fucking years, this has happened there before, and now it's happening again.

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derrrrrep

literally doing nothing

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Taken out of context by a known extremely biased "news" outlet. LOL

What he means is that we can only manage as best we can until the vaccinations are further along. Which is the truth. But he's managed it better than Trump, and that started with taking it seriously.

I know it must be painful to see someone competent and compassionate in office. You're just going to have to deal with it for a while.

Some in the area have asked me, "Could this happen in southern California?"

The answer is, "Probably not."

As unusual as this weather is for Texas, these aren't even all-time record lows. Dallas was -8 in 1899, and as recently as 1989, it was -1. Also in 1989, San Antonio was 7 degrees, and the all-time low was 0 degrees in 1947. Austin was just 3 degrees in that same 1989 cold snap, and was -2 degrees in 1949.

All of these cities see below-freezing temperatures each winter at some point. The difference is that it's usually only mildly below freezing, and there isn't usually snow. This year, there was both snow and temperatures in the 0s and 10s, causing what's known as a "hard freeze".

In Los Angeles, it's a different story. The coldest temperature ever recorded in the Los Angeles area was 18 degrees in Woodland Hills in 1990. But even that's an outlier, with it being rare for most of Los Angeles to ever dip below the freezing mark. Additionally, Los Angeles almost never has a high temperature below 45 degrees. In December 2015, much of Los Angeles (including where I live) was in the mid-20s, but that's about as cold as it typically gets, and even that is rare. Still, 25 degrees isn't cold enough to make pipes freeze, especially because it doesn't sit there for very long before rising above freezing again.

What about the power requirement? Not likely to be an issue either, as Los Angeles mainly heats with natural gas, and those lines are unlikely to freeze. The power won't fail because, again, the cold occurs in the middle of the night, and the daytime (when electricity demand in general is higher) is almost always above 45 degrees.

One guy whose electricity stayed on has been charged $16,752 for it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/20/u...gtype=Homepage

Maybe Texas doesn't have a price gouging law. That's the price of "freedom" I guess.

BTW, this is why you should never put your bills on autopay.

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Some in the area have asked me, "Could this happen in southern California?"

The answer is, "Probably not."

As unusual as this weather is for Texas, these aren't even all-time record lows. Dallas was -8 in 1899, and as recently as 1989, it was -1. Also in 1989, San Antonio was 7 degrees, and the all-time low was 0 degrees in 1947. Austin was just 3 degrees in that same 1989 cold snap, and was -2 degrees in 1949.

All of these cities see below-freezing temperatures each winter at some point. The difference is that it's usually only mildly below freezing, and there isn't usually snow. This year, there was both snow and temperatures in the 0s and 10s, causing what's known as a "hard freeze".

In Los Angeles, it's a different story. The coldest temperature ever recorded in the Los Angeles area was 18 degrees in Woodland Hills in 1990. But even that's an outlier, with it being rare for most of Los Angeles to ever dip below the freezing mark. Additionally, Los Angeles almost never has a high temperature below 45 degrees. In December 2015, much of Los Angeles (including where I live) was in the mid-20s, but that's about as cold as it typically gets, and even that is rare. Still, 25 degrees isn't cold enough to make pipes freeze, especially because it doesn't sit there for very long before rising above freezing again.

What about the power requirement? Not likely to be an issue either, as Los Angeles mainly heats with natural gas, and those lines are unlikely to freeze. The power won't fail because, again, the cold occurs in the middle of the night, and the daytime (when electricity demand in general is higher) is almost always above 45 degrees.

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Texass. Proud to stand alone. Proud to spare every nickel including no enclosures for vital equipment. We’re talking walls.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veOPrDAGLqE

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I love you buddy but I hate that song, I hate that artist.

I hate everything, except Mom

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its ok you just never been snake bit yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb_mi6QB0Vo

To anyone who lives in Texas, that contributed to one of the 100 "SF is a shitty place to live" threads (no pun intended)
FUCK YOU

This is what "deregulation" gets you,
No heat, People Dying, 6k electric bills & Jerry Jones and the Comstock CEO cashing in on it all.

This is what Lying in politics gets you.
Liars lie so they never have to own up to anything.
What do the Pols do? Lie and deflect blame, Blame a NY congress women?
So what are supposed to believe that Texas, of all places, signed the green new deal on their own, behind everyone's back? GTFO
Now it is Biden's fault? per Kudlow.

This is D_E_R_E_G_U_L_A_T_I_O_N.
I get that you people are afraid of the word socialism, (how this word offends you more than fascism I'll never get)
If there was no socialism we wouldn't have roads and shit.
& I'll never buy that Bernie trying to get people a living wage &/or AOC getting everyone healthcare is going to lead to communism.


Former Trump advisor says Texas power outages are consequence of electing Biden
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-tr...001424659.html

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To anyone who lives in Texas, that contributed to one of the 100 "SF is a shitty place to live" threads (no pun intended)
FUCK YOU

This is what "deregulation" gets you,
No heat, People Dying, 6k electric bills & Jerry Jones and the Comstock CEO cashing in on it all.

This is what Lying in politics gets you.
Liars lie so they never have to own up to anything.
What do the Pols do? Lie and deflect blame, Blame a NY congress women?
So what are supposed to believe that Texas, of all places, signed the green new deal on their own, behind everyone's back? GTFO
Now it is Biden's fault? per Kudlow.

This is D_E_R_E_G_U_L_A_T_I_O_N.
I get that you people are afraid of the word socialism, (how this word offends you more than fascism I'll never get)
If there was no socialism we wouldn't have roads and shit.
& I'll never buy that Bernie trying to get people a living wage &/or AOC getting everyone healthcare is going to lead to communism.


Former Trump advisor says Texas power outages are consequence of electing Biden
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-tr...001424659.html

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So what you see with the Socialists today is the Banning and Demonizing in the News and on Social media of everyone who thinks different than they do. And you're ok with that?

I think we should force Jimmy G. to watch a loop of every awful interception from the year Kaepernick got benched and lost his job to Blaine Gabbert. Then force him to watch videos of Gabbert celebrating the Bucs Super Bowl win (something Kaepernick will never do.)

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Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

One guy whose electricity stayed on has been charged $16,752 for it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/20/u...gtype=Homepage

Maybe Texas doesn't have a price gouging law. That's the price of "freedom" I guess.

BTW, this is why you should never put your bills on autopay.

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Guy signed up for Griddy...a company that bills you the wholesale price, generally its cheaper than retail except during the summer heat. They even told their customers to switch to another provider due to the impending storm...not sure why he didnt switch. In this case its not gouging just unfortunate...

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To anyone who lives in Texas, that contributed to one of the 100 "SF is a shitty place to live" threads (no pun intended)
FUCK YOU

This is what "deregulation" gets you,
No heat, People Dying, 6k electric bills & Jerry Jones and the Comstock CEO cashing in on it all.

This is what Lying in politics gets you.
Liars lie so they never have to own up to anything.
What do the Pols do? Lie and deflect blame, Blame a NY congress women?
So what are supposed to believe that Texas, of all places, signed the green new deal on their own, behind everyone's back? GTFO
Now it is Biden's fault? per Kudlow.

This is D_E_R_E_G_U_L_A_T_I_O_N.
I get that you people are afraid of the word socialism, (how this word offends you more than fascism I'll never get)
If there was no socialism we wouldn't have roads and shit.
& I'll never buy that Bernie trying to get people a living wage &/or AOC getting everyone healthcare is going to lead to communism.


Former Trump advisor says Texas power outages are consequence of electing Biden
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-tr...001424659.html

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So what you see with the Socialists today is the Banning and Demonizing in the News and on Social media of everyone who thinks different than they do. And you're ok with that?

I think we should force Jimmy G. to watch a loop of every awful interception from the year Kaepernick got benched and lost his job to Blaine Gabbert. Then force him to watch videos of Gabbert celebrating the Bucs Super Bowl win (something Kaepernick will never do.)

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But do you think the Texas outages are Biden's fault, and if so, how?

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Originally Posted by JimmyG_415

To anyone who lives in Texas, that contributed to one of the 100 "SF is a shitty place to live" threads (no pun intended)
FUCK YOU

This is what "deregulation" gets you,
No heat, People Dying, 6k electric bills & Jerry Jones and the Comstock CEO cashing in on it all.

This is what Lying in politics gets you.
Liars lie so they never have to own up to anything.
What do the Pols do? Lie and deflect blame, Blame a NY congress women?
So what are supposed to believe that Texas, of all places, signed the green new deal on their own, behind everyone's back? GTFO
Now it is Biden's fault? per Kudlow.

This is D_E_R_E_G_U_L_A_T_I_O_N.
I get that you people are afraid of the word socialism, (how this word offends you more than fascism I'll never get)
If there was no socialism we wouldn't have roads and shit.
& I'll never buy that Bernie trying to get people a living wage &/or AOC getting everyone healthcare is going to lead to communism.


Former Trump advisor says Texas power outages are consequence of electing Biden
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-tr...001424659.html

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“Yeah, free markets”!

https://youtu.be/WiBeZtH2gK4

Uh, oh. This WSJ doesn’t look good for Texas voters, who seem to have been sold a massive bill of goods when they were convinced to accept deregulated electric service some 2 decades ago.

Texas Electric Bills Were $28 Billion Higher Under Deregulation
Competition in the electricity-supply business promised reliable power at a more affordable cost
https://www.wsj.com/articles/texas-e...on-11614162780

“Yeah, free markets!”

The problem in Texas is people are lazy.

They just let whomever their provider is go on an on even after their contract is over.

It’s super easy to comparison shop and get low rates...but most people are clueless.

I use a spreadsheet to calculate the best deal based on my electrical usage....it’s amazing the vast difference between the cheapest and most expensive....

The pipes at night will freeze real tight deep in the heart of Texas
The electric bill it's enough to kill deep in the heart of Texas
It irks my head that damn fool Ted had to depart from Texas
The wetbacks freeze fall on their knees deep in the heart of Texas
And it ain't cool the governor's a fool deep in the heart of Texas