I AM SIMPLY BAFFLED BY ALL THE LIMOUSINE LIBERALS OF PFA THAT ARE SO QUICK TO CONDEMN A SUCCESSFUL AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN IN 2019. GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT WITH YOU REGRESSIVE BACKWARDS HYPOCRITES.
BUNCHA STUDIO LEFTISTS UP IN THIS BITCH.
I AM SIMPLY BAFFLED BY ALL THE LIMOUSINE LIBERALS OF PFA THAT ARE SO QUICK TO CONDEMN A SUCCESSFUL AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN IN 2019. GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT WITH YOU REGRESSIVE BACKWARDS HYPOCRITES.
BUNCHA STUDIO LEFTISTS UP IN THIS BITCH.
I mean, any girl can make up some bullshit that ends up with a rape charge after a breakup or whatever, but how do you randomly get charged with filming underaged retards showering? Like that’s one of those so strange it has to be true situations. I’m trying to think of some scenario where you end up in that situation. Dating some foster parent to mentally challenged kids? He’ll get his day, but that shit is some weird ass charges.
I'm not defending anyone.
I am stating the facts of the situation, from what we know now.
Because of the way the charges are written, some people probably believe he had physical contact with these minors, or that he kidnapped them in some way.
While I don't have any details or verification, the low bail amount and the 3-year delay in arrest would seem to indicate that neither of the above occurred, and that this really is something like an accusation of jerking off in front of them.
If he's guilty of that, then I agree it's still sick.
However, I am clarifying for people here who are trying to understand what is likely going on.
Even if I disliked Ray, I wouldn't be trying to spread misinformation about the case. Look at how I handled the Micon/Seals thing. While I disliked Micon at that point, I discussed the matter in a very fair/neutral way.
Same thing here.
FYP, sort of.
Hey, what you said here seems super legit. Just the “Facts”.
The facts as I see it is you are trying to downplay the fact that he jerked off in front of a 13 year old retard and likely stopped them from leaving when he was caught. There’s nothing left in my opinion except the guy is a pedo freak that shouldn’t be respected in poker or running the largest group of poker fanboys there is. Period.
When you say things like “overcharged” or “no actual assault is being alleged” then you are downplaying it. By definition you are wrong. The prosecutor is in fact alleging a sexual assault occurred! You don’t get to pick and choose your own personal definitions.
I know you think you're a criminal law genius because you took one class on the matter at community college, but most people are overcharged when charges are first filed. In fact, I stated that when I said it.
No actual assault occurred, by the "sexual assault" definition nearly non-lawyer believes it to be. Almost everyone would be very surprised to hear that "assault" can include a situation where no physical contact (or attempted contact) of any kind was made, including nothing thrown.
This isn't a legality discussion. We are trying to figure out what the fuck actually happened.
This should be discussed for what it really is, not for what the overly broad charges make it appear to be.
Now that there's blood in the RealGrinders waters, is there a prime opportunity right now for fourth-tier poker forum owners to take some FB market share?
I made a post in this thread and took it down. This is really bad and serious shit. It’s not what we are about
The site dealt with poker fraud or fraud in general. Usually, financial crimes between adults. Tzvetmoff, Baasov, Jen Larson, Seals/Micon (unlicensed poker site) to site entertaining examples.
this guy appears to confess to being a sex offender against a minor.
We are all parents. In prison Micon would have been “high-fived ” and this guy will get curb stomped.
Which is to say nobody can tolerate violating children’s innocence.
This is why these guys pick on the most vulnerable cause they risk meeting up with a normal parent’s tire iron.
I get Druff is trying to demonstrate his objectivity by invoking Micon but this is a third rail kind of topic. ANY comparison to Micon really isn’t right and just serves to get me angry.
C’mon Druff.
The Micon example was showing the other side of the coin -- someone I disliked who I treated fairly in my discussion of his legal issues, when I could have been sensational and made it seem far worse than it was.
This situation occurred regarding someone with a good relationship with both me and PFA. Similarly, I'm being fair and objective here.
Someone you disliked failed to pull the proper permit. It was all hilarity
Has to be said.
I will point out that Sizzle kind of baited you Druff. I saw this coming. It’s all in the game.
Just leave it alone.
I have no dog in this fight but it came across like Druff was defending the guy. Def not not defending him.
When it comes to a potential sex crime, especially underage retard, it's best to let it play out without much of an opinion. Especially positive even neutral. That's something that can hang over your head for a long ass time if wrong.
Does anyone have a link to the RG lounge hours, please? Ktxbye
Druff has a history of being fair and objective in these situations, provided the person in question is not a woman accusing a man of rape or harassment.
Without reading more, its astounding to me that this case has dragged on for so long. Jacking off to retards showering is about as depraved as it gets
Damn, hope it's not true.
In the early 2000s I used to play at the Bike some, and got to know Raymond and liked him. But man he had an Asian game gambling problem, especially with Chinese Poker. I remember he used to play at a table filled with Vietnamese players and dealers who talked to each other in Vietnamese during the hand, and he always lost. He knew he was being cheated but couldn't help himself I guess.
This. Total degen, but I thought cool guy. Now seeing his posts giving back to children is giving me the creeps. Sex issues go back to childhood and he had a bad one. Still no excuse, these charges are worse than Sklansky.
Asian dealers so much better than jacking off to retards, this shit is nasty..
Anybody know if anything more ever came from this? It kind of started to blow up and then everyone went kind of silent about it.
EDIT:
7/15 - Motion to dismiss by the defendant
7/17 - State opposes the dismissal
7/22 - Jury Trial was cancelled/postponed
7/30 - Motion to dismiss under Doggett vs United States (Violating the 6th amendment -- right to a speedy Trial)
9/9 - New Jury Trial is set
**I imagine the motion to dismiss under Doggett vs United states was denied as these crimes allegedly happened in 2014. I'm no lawyer but I'm sure the statute of limitations on a sexual crime with a minor extend past 5 years. Just look at that sick doctor guy with the child Athletes a couple years ago or so.
That motion by Rays attorney while some may consider a standard move actually reeks of desperation in my estimation.. How the fuck are you going to try and get a case dismissed you were only finally brought into court and arraigned on less then 2 months ago.. His atty tried 2x in 2 weeks to make this go away... Im beginning to think Micon had a better attorney then Ray has hired in his case.. Maybe he could've hired Micons attorney if he wasn't handing shit to that pathetic human Kenny who just needs a heavy winter coat on to match the South Park Character cause Kenny gets killed constantly by Ray and his wife it seems.. I get the whole Kenny thing is amusing but if I was fighting to keep my ass outta jail and risk being somebodys bitch in prison Id make sure I had plenty for legal fees for a lawyer who could all but guarantee his ass is safe (shouldn't be the dudes a fucking creeper in my estimation and would serve him right if he ended up being slapped as a sex offender for life and shit.. I have nothing against Ray as a poker player but ya know at least Raymer was fucking with an adult hooker and paying her.. This shit with Ray makes me think he was paying underage girls for shit be it a shower show at minimum like youd get in some strip clubs or something a lot more insidious.. The fact the charges lend to the fact at least one was well under the age of consent and the age difference making him old enough to be her granddaddy is just fucked up beyond belief..
Well this just made things worse for Ray.. Grand Jury indicted him last Thursday (8/29).. He is scheduled for felony arraignment on Wednesday the 4th 930am..
https://www.clarkcountycourts.us/Ano...ewMode=Minutes
08/29/2019
Grand Jury Indictment (11:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Bell, Linda Marie)
Minutes
08/29/2019 11:00 AM
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Raymond Jatkowski, Grand Jury Foreperson, stated to the Court that at least twelve members had concurred in the return of the true bill during deliberation, but had been excused for presentation to the Court. State presented Grand Jury Case Number 18BGJ207X to the Court. COURT ORDERED, the Indictment may be filed and is assigned Case Number C-19-342946-1, Department VI. State requested a summons and advised Deft is not in custody. COURT ORDERED, INDICTMENT SUMMONS ISSUED, matter SET for Arraignment. Upon Court's inquiry, the State advised there are no material witness warrants to quash. COURT FURTHER ORDERED, Exhibits 1-3 to be lodged with the Clerk of the Court. NIC (SUMMON) 09/04/19 9:30 A.M. INITIAL ARRAIGNMENT (DEPT VI)
SONOFABITCH THAT FUCKER GOT OFF!!!!. At first seeing hed been missing from RG for a few days I was wondering if maybe something went sideways for his sorry ass in his criminal case and then I see this shit!!!. WTF.. No fucking justice as usual.. That motherfucker better watch his ass because a third charge wont end well for him.. fucking child molester..
Whole case is so weird.
They dismissed this 5 days before the jury trial was to begin. So odd. And then there's motions to dismiss filed 9/11 when it was supposedly dismissed on 9/4? I don't get it.
MISTRIAL IN THE RAYMOND DAVIS CASE
The judge has declared a mistrial in the case for a psych evaluation. TBC.....
Psych eval of Ray? If so, then there is more to this story then meets the eye.
I don't think I believe the mistrial or the psych evaluation story. Seems to have been dismissed. from the court records on the website.
The psych evaluation is especially hard to believe because, whether you like or hate Ray Davis, he definitely doesn't appear crazy or unhinged.
All of his social media posts in his huge Facebook group do not appear to be those of a lunatic. While not always written with the best grammar, he seems completely coherent at all times.
Ray is either guilty or innocent on this one. His psychological state doesn't seem to be in question.
Maybe psych eval of the alleged victim? The prosecution could dismiss (without prejudice which means it could refile later within the statute of limitations) so his right to a speedy trial is not invoked, then refiled later once the psych eval is done. I can't read the picture that well, so I don't know if the psych eval is of a specified person.
There was no mistrial from what I can see, just a motion to declare one and throw out some grand jury testimony and the presiding judge. There will be a Competency hearing October 11th.
It has definitely not been dismissed, and no mistrial has been declared.The case is open and ongoing.
WELL THIS IS INTERESTING..
There are 2 different cases showing now see links definitely different files but seems the one Ryback pulled has been closed and case reopened under a different prosecution number.
Looking at the second case that ATTY Ray has is a real assclown hes just throwing shit like a fucking monkey on crack seeing if he can make anything stick?? Double Jeopardy?? WTF?? I hope Rays paying him well because this dude is grasping at straws even trying to get the Judge removed from the process... Maybe the competency hearing is for the lawyer ROFLMAO.. JFC I just re-read everything.. Yeah its for his lawyer alright.. THE DAMN FOOL IS REPRESENTING HIMSELF.... WOW.. Hes facing potential life at this point and hes defending himself?? Yeah Rays done lost his damn mind Im afraid.. Oh and the nice bullshit on RG makes sense now claiming it was food poisoning.. no the idiot was in court.. So the question now is how fucking broke is Ray that he couldn't afford a lawyer after his arraignment.. For bloody sake if hes that broke why doesn't he had a Public Defender at least.. This is insane.. He might as well start getting his affairs in order his ass is going buh bye to prison.. "Only a fool would have himself as a client" is sound truth right now..
Lookie lookie what I found under the court minutes.. Appears the Pysch eval is indeed for Ray so hes trying to game the system it appears.. Agreed Ray has never come across as unhinged or the like.. Based on this reading he knows hes in deep shit and is acting like a cornered animal apparently because he cant weasel his way out of this looks like..
"OUTSIDE THE PRESENCE OF THE JURY: Court noted it received correspondence regarding Defendant's psychological state. Court exhibit presented (see worksheet). Court read the findings from the nurse practitioner. Mr. Davis apologized to the Court for his behavior."
Heres where I found this for the minutes online.. https://www.clarkcountycourts.us/Ano...ewMode=Minutes
FYI, posting links to the court case records doesn't work. So don't bother. The minutes ftpjesus posted did work, so I left that link up.
However, I see ftpjesus found the answer, that the case has been moved with a new case number, since it's in District Court now. (Not sure why, or what that means.)
Nothing has been dismissed, apparently.
Stuff has been added, too
Here's what I see now:
08/29/2019 Indictment
08/29/2019 Summons
Summons (Indictment)
09/04/2019 Initial Arraignment (9:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Bluth, Jacqueline M.)
Result: Matter Heard
09/04/2019 Reporters Transcript
Reporter's Transcript of Proceedings - Grand Jury - Hearing - August 28, 2019
09/04/2019 Motion (9:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Bluth, Jacqueline M.)
09/04/2019, 09/09/2019
State's Notice of Motion and Motion To Admit Evidence of Other Crimes, Wongs or Acts
Result: Matter Heard
09/04/2019 Motion (9:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Bluth, Jacqueline M.)
Defendant's Notice of Motion And Motion To Withdraw As Attorney of Record
Result: Granted
09/04/2019 All Pending Motions (9:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Bluth, Jacqueline M.)
09/05/2019 Notice of Witnesses and/or Expert Witnesses
STATE S NOTICE OF WITNESSES AND/OR EXPERT WITNESSES
09/06/2019 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Bluth, Jacqueline M.)
Appointment of Standby Counsel
09/09/2019 Evidentiary Hearing (1:00 PM) (Judicial Officer Bluth, Jacqueline M.)
Result: Matter Heard
09/09/2019 All Pending Motions (1:00 PM) (Judicial Officer Bluth, Jacqueline M.)
09/09/2019 Motion to Dismiss
Defendants Motion to Dismiss
09/09/2019 Motion to Dismiss
Defendants Motion to Dismiss
09/09/2019 Motion to Dismiss
Defendants Motion to Dismiss
09/09/2019 Motion to Dismiss
Defendants Motion to Dismiss
09/09/2019 Motion to Dismiss
Defendants Motion to Dismiss
09/10/2019 Jury Trial (1:30 PM) (Judicial Officer Bluth, Jacqueline M.)
09/10/2019, 09/11/2019, 09/12/2019, 09/13/2019, 09/16/2019, 09/17/2019
Parties Present
Minutes
Result: Trial Continues
09/10/2019 Motion
Remove Ankle Bracelet
09/10/2019 Motion
Dismss Due to Lack of Evidence
09/10/2019 Motion to Dismiss
Motion to Dismiss
09/10/2019 Motion for Change of Venue
Change of Venue
09/10/2019 Motion to Dismiss
(Dismissal Due to Pretrial Delay)
09/11/2019 Jury List
09/12/2019 Audiovisual Transmission Equipment Appearance Request
AUDIOVISUAL TRANSMISSION EQUIPMENT APPEARANCE REQUEST
09/13/2019 Amended Jury List
09/13/2019 List of Witnesses
Witness List
09/16/2019 Motion
Dismisal Due to Prosecutorial Misconduct
09/16/2019 Motion to Dismiss
Dismissal Due to Gran Jury Indigment is Beyond the Statue of Limits
09/16/2019 Motion
Motion to Throw Out Witness Vannesa Robintson Grand Jury Testimony
09/16/2019 Motion to Dismiss
Dismissal Due to Double Jepordy
09/16/2019 Motion
Motion to Call a Mistrial
09/16/2019 Motion
Motion to Recuse Judge Jacqueline Bluth
09/16/2019 Audiovisual Transmission Equipment Appearance Request
AUDIOVISUAL TRANSMISSION EQUIPMENT APPEARANCE REQUEST
09/16/2019 Answer (Criminal)
Answer to Oral Request to Disqualify Judge Jacqueline M. Bluth From Case #C-19-342946-1
09/16/2019 Affidavit
Affidavit of Judge Bluth in Support of Answer to Oral Request to Disqualify Judge Jacqueline M. Bluth From Case #C-19-342946-1
10/11/2019 Further Proceedings: Competency (10:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Bell, Linda Marie)
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So it looks like he's really trying a lot of strategies, and it does say he's defending himself, which is surprising. (He had an attorney before.)
So there's attempts to disqualify the current judge, dismiss due to double jeopardy, disallow testimony from a witness, dismiss due to prosecutorial misconduct, and change the venue. And then there's the competency matter.
I can't imagine the competency thing will work, as there's lots of evidence all over social media that Ray is and has always been mentally competent.
The rest of the stuff, who knows?
I see that he has to wear an ankle bracelet, and there's motions to have that removed. I'm guessing that's going to be a big fat NO, as otherwise he could leave the state and ditch out on this. Of course, this matter has lingered for years and Ray hasn't gone anywhere, so I don't think he'd be running, anyway.
This whole thing hasn't affected RealGrinders, probably because it's just an accusation at this point, and not a conviction. If he actually gets convicted, I could see some possible backlash.
But is he really competent? A guy who has been accused by a minor of being a pedophile not just once but twice. Rumor is this is the third time I've been on Real Grinders for years and I have yet to see he has real friend other than a couple little kids who used to be in his videos. Haven't seen them in a while. Hmmmmm...... He trashes that guy Kenny who is his only friend on a regular basis to try to boost himself up. He acts like paying for a bus ticket for a guy who is coming to work his lounge is a big deal. Then after they guy gets to Vegas all he does is make videos of him to build himself up and destroy the guys self esteem. Only a complete wacko narcissist would do what he does to a person he claims is his friend. How about his claims to help the homeless? When is the last time he posted one of his videos of helping a homeless person? He used to post them all the time none since the holidays. hmmmmm. He is a scam artiest who is using his facebook page to sucker people. Yeah bet my plays on this site and that site in which I get 50% of your losses. Has he ever once said he profits off these sites to keep his gambling addiction going? No his claims are he wins at sports betting and that is why he started a new facebook page where he charging people for his plays which I would lay odds lose. The funniest post was him claiming he is on 27 computers and 6 note pads 10 hours a day which is why he is a winning player at NFL. The idiot still doesn't know the hardest sport to beat is the NFL because the numbers are so tight yet he want's to get these poor people who believe in him to blow their hard earned money on his picks which a monkey could make? The guy is nothing more than a low life scumbag modern life huckster who has scammed a bunch of people and you really should call it like it is Druff. You are one one the most ethical people in the industry and I can't wait to see you stand up for what is right.