Official Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor Thread

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Originally Posted by sonatine

Obvo I have no knowledge of Floyd's situation but I can say from personal experience that the IRS has changed a lot since Tim McVey did his thing, and although they will always get whats theirs, they tend to be incredibly flexible with anyone showing a sincere desire to work their situation out.

Like they arent trying to fuck around with the numbers but anyone willing to pick up the phone and speak to an agent can usually work out a profoundly painless payment plan.

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And when you have hundreds of millions of dollars and a team full of the best accountants in the world, there are ways you can delay and tie up the process. His taxes are probably so complicated it isn't even funny. He isn't Joe Blow making 50k a year. There are also processes that have to take place before they can start nailing you with interest and fees (like notice of intent to levy) and sometimes they take the attitude of what you just stated, and try to work it out with people instead. The penalties and fees aren't computer generated and only start when they want them to start, and after the necessary paperwork is filed and you are notified. I'm guessing there was some way they have tied this shit up and avoided all of the fees and whatnot. You can get a 120 day extension on payment almost automatically if you can give them a semi good reason. I'm sure they came up with many due to the complex nature of the situation.

I would bet any amount of money on the fact he hasn't paid a dime of late fees or interest....yet. July 1st was probably the deadline, and then they were going to start adding in the penalties and fees. And now he is just trying to negotiate for a few more months time because again....why not? These people don't live in the same world or play by the same rules as we do. Floyd will be just fine, just playing the game. There are ways around everything when you have unlimited cash and connections.

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Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler

There are also processes that have to take place before they can start nailing you with interest and fees (like notice of intent to levy)

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this 100% does not jibe with my experience.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

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Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler

There are also processes that have to take place before they can start nailing you with interest and fees (like notice of intent to levy)

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this 100% does not jibe with my experience.

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All I am saying is basically what you are saying in regards to them being able to "work it out" without penalties and fees piling up.

Like a 1st time penalty abatement, or other "waivers" they can issue. They can do whatever the fuck they want especially if you can make a good argument or have a good reason.

Here is some light reading on the matter.

https://www.irs.gov/irm/part20/irm_2...1.html#d0e2854

Mayweather in 8 (-110) or the Any other result at -130? I like that the any other result.

There is definitely a process that has to take place before the IRS can levy, But there is no process really that needs to occur before they issue penalties and interest. If you file your tax returns, and sign they are valid, they will base your liability on that. If you dont pay your liability they charge interest and penalties. It is really that simple. If your still dont pay, then they issue you an intent to levy. If you still ignore them, they they take over your bank account and property.

Getting an abatement on fees and penalties is generally reserved reserved for the average joe that had some situation in his life and not a Floyd type who has the resources not to fuck up. The IRS has a major hard on for celebrities for obvious reasons. If they can get a case going against a celebrity , or look as if they are tough on them, it helps with compliance among the general population.

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Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler

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Originally Posted by sonatine

this 100% does not jibe with my experience.

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All I am saying is basically what you are saying in regards to them being able to "work it out" without penalties and fees piling up.

Like a 1st time penalty abatement, or other "waivers" they can issue. They can do whatever the fuck they want especially if you can make a good argument or have a good reason.

Here is some light reading on the matter.

https://www.irs.gov/irm/part20/irm_2...1.html#d0e2854

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You got a good point if this is his first time not paying his taxes in regards to the abatement. I have just never seen it apply to someone in his tax bracket as it is usually reserved for the random dude that makes 50k a year, had a death in the family, and didnt have the income to pay what was owed for one given year.

What is Floyd's excuse? He bought to many one million dollar cars in 2015?

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

Mayweather in 8 (-110) or the Any other result at -130? I like that the any other result.

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This seems likely. It's going to be hard to carry Conor that long, but he has carried a lot of guys. I can't imagine Conor ever landing anything resembling a solid shot, but if he does, it could end much quicker as Floyd wouldn't chance playing around and losing a boxing match to an MMA fighter. Assuming he never lands one though, somewhere in middle rounds feels probable length unless he catches him by accident. He can basically name his round. I assume he'll be risk averse and let Conor chase him around for awhile and tire before finishing him. Still afraid to bet a red cent on it. Too much chaos, WWE, and money to be made getting funky.

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Originally Posted by cmoney

What is Floyd's excuse? He bought to many one million dollar cars in 2015?

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My guess is that he failed to hire Jews or Mormons to watch the finances. Tyrone from middle school just can't handle the books at that level of income.

event is literally $99 on ppv.

This is exactly how many fucks Floyd gives about the fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnO65Mo_Fwo

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It would seem that Mayweather has more money than he would know what to do with, but he has certainly put that idea to the test in the past. Notorious for his exorbitant spending sprees and reckless financial behavior, Mayweather reportedly spends up to $75 million a year, a habit which has landed him in some serious financial trouble in recent years, defaulting on loans and incurring penalties from the IRS for unpaid taxes.

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No wonder Mayweather is going broke.

If Mayweather really needs more money, he should sell off his gold-plated belts.


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Originally Posted by TheXFactor

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It would seem that Mayweather has more money than he would know what to do with, but he has certainly put that idea to the test in the past. Notorious for his exorbitant spending sprees and reckless financial behavior, Mayweather reportedly spends up to $75 million a year, a habit which has landed him in some serious financial trouble in recent years, defaulting on loans and incurring penalties from the IRS for unpaid taxes.

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No wonder Mayweather is going broke.

If Mayweather really needs more money, he should sell off his gold-plated belts.


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Exactly. I dont know why people find it hard to believe he could be broke. If he had the money for the IRS, he would pay it, as I really find it hard they are going to cut him a break on penalties. The interest is a non issue. It is the penalties that are the killer.

Broke is relative obv. He could have 50 mil cash but owes 100.

Floyd on IG

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floydmayweatherBelieve half of what you see and none of what you hear, especially when it comes to media in this country. While everyone is counting my money and assuming the worst, these are the facts... Uncle Sam, received $26,000,000.00 from me in 2015! What else could they possibly want? I'm sure I would have been notified much sooner if there were any real discrepancies right? Bottom line, everybody just wants to be a part of the "Money May" show, including the IRS! That's fine, you can crunch numbers all day but in the end, my empire is rock solid and intact! Now Calculate That!

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First press conf today @ 5:30.

Will they go HAM right off the bat or work up to it?

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Originally Posted by simpdog

Floyd on IG

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floydmayweatherBelieve half of what you see and none of what you hear, especially when it comes to media in this country. While everyone is counting my money and assuming the worst, these are the facts... Uncle Sam, received $26,000,000.00 from me in 2015! What else could they possibly want? I'm sure I would have been notified much sooner if there were any real discrepancies right? Bottom line, everybody just wants to be a part of the "Money May" show, including the IRS! That's fine, you can crunch numbers all day but in the end, my empire is rock solid and intact! Now Calculate That!

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26 seems extremely low for what he made. Probably tried to write off a bunch of shit the IRS is saying "nice try" to

Presser here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npJdeoYxYGs

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Originally Posted by Shizzmoney

Presser here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npJdeoYxYGs

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That was fucking awesome!!! Thanks for sharing.

it was the first one i've watched. is that normal for them?? It got my blood pumping!

Nice suit


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McGregor KO1

im going to have to put some money on conor by tko because of what a shitty, shitty world this is.

Literally everyone is pulling for McGregor to snatch Mayweathers 0 and brutally ko him in the process - besides the wealthy boxing punters who are betting large on Mayweather.

McGregor, is bigger, longer, younger, and has ko power. Not expecting May weather to fold after 1 shot, but he can be hit and has been rocked many times in his career.

These are not my sports, but damn, with such disparities there must be a big edge here.

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

These are not my sports, but damn, with such disparities there must be a big edge here.

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Not sure who u mean, but I think when McGregor was 12/1 months ago before the fight was announced, that was a good price to take, now he's 4s. I still think he beats him at least 1 in 5 times so probably still a profitable bet. He has a punchers chance, if he doesn't land then Mayweathet will just keep moving and countering.

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Originally Posted by RegGaymer

Literally everyone is pulling for McGregor to snatch Mayweathers 0 and brutally ko him in the process - besides the wealthy boxing punters who are betting large on Mayweather.

McGregor, is bigger, longer, younger, and has ko power. Not expecting May weather to fold after 1 shot, but he can be hit and has been rocked many times in his career.

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No one ever pulls for Mayweather. He's easy to hate.

Everyone he fights is younger. Most of them are also bigger. A lot of them have KO power.

Those people have also been professional boxers for most of their lives.

People keep bringing up Conor's 4" reach advantage, like he's going to know how to use it. Like Mayweather isn't going to use his feet to take that reach away whenever he wants.

"Been rocked many times in career" ? Do tell. What, 3 times? 2 of them came in the same fight, lol.

It'd be the biggest upset in combat sports history if Conor wins this fight.

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Originally Posted by RegGaymer

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

These are not my sports, but damn, with such disparities there must be a big edge here.

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Not sure who u mean, but I think when McGregor was 12/1 months ago before the fight was announced, that was a good price to take, now he's 4s. I still think he beats him at least 1 in 5 times so probably still a profitable bet. He has a punchers chance, if he doesn't land then Mayweathet will just keep moving and countering.

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He probably means that McGregor has never had a professional boxing match.

12/1, lol. Unless Floyd is shot to shit (not likely), it should be 120/1.

So for arguments sake, let's just say that Conor lands that big, bad, powerful left hand. And then let's assume that Floyd doesn't just fall down and die.

The fuck do people think is going to happen then? If Floyd wants to move, and box, and keep Conor away, he'll do it for 12 rounds without breaking a sweat.

Boxing is as much about the feet as it is the hands. The difference in foot speed and placement in this fight is going to be fucking L. O. L.

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Originally Posted by RegGaymer

Literally everyone is pulling for McGregor to snatch Mayweathers 0 and brutally ko him in the process - besides the wealthy boxing punters who are betting large on Mayweather.

McGregor, is bigger, longer, younger, and has ko power. Not expecting May weather to fold after 1 shot, but he can be hit and has been rocked many times in his career.

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No one ever pulls for Mayweather. He's easy to hate.

Everyone he fights is younger. Most of them are also bigger. A lot of them have KO power.

Those people have also been professional boxers for most of their lives.

People keep bringing up Conor's 4" reach advantage, like he's going to know how to use it. Like Mayweather isn't going to use his feet to take that reach away whenever he wants.

"Been rocked many times in career" ? Do tell. What, 3 times? 2 of them came in the same fight, lol.

It'd be the biggest upset in combat sports history if Conor wins this fight.

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You remind me of big dick on November 7, 2016.

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

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Originally Posted by JMM

No one ever pulls for Mayweather. He's easy to hate.

Everyone he fights is younger. Most of them are also bigger. A lot of them have KO power.

Those people have also been professional boxers for most of their lives.

People keep bringing up Conor's 4" reach advantage, like he's going to know how to use it. Like Mayweather isn't going to use his feet to take that reach away whenever he wants.

"Been rocked many times in career" ? Do tell. What, 3 times? 2 of them came in the same fight, lol.

It'd be the biggest upset in combat sports history if Conor wins this fight.

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You remind me of big dick on November 7, 2016.

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I have no fucking idea what that means.

Sounds gay, though.

Also, that entire presser was a fucking circus.

Felt like watching WWE. It felt forced and seemed damn near scripted.

All that shit they talked, but no one even got 2 feet within contact of the other one. Shit, Mayweather grabbed Ortiz by the throat and he didn't even say anything.

They know how much money is at stake. They're going to do everything they can do sell it, and everything they can to not fuck it up.

I saw an interview after where Conor said he really didn't know what to expect and it was just thrown together.

I fully expect him to ramp up his trash talking as it goes along. IMO he's one of the GOAT trash talkers and knows how to get under people's skin.

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Originally Posted by simpdog

I saw an interview after where Conor said he really didn't know what to expect and it was just thrown together.

I fully expect him to ramp up his trash talking as it goes along. IMO he's one of the GOAT trash talkers and knows how to get under people's skin.

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sounds like he was expecting the mma-style press event, which is essentially just Q&A, then a face-off.

Maybe Floyd will cash that 100m check sooner rather than later

http://deadsp.in/1ddEL4A

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Originally Posted by JMM

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Originally Posted by RegGaymer

Not sure who u mean, but I think when McGregor was 12/1 months ago before the fight was announced, that was a good price to take, now he's 4s. I still think he beats him at least 1 in 5 times so probably still a profitable bet. He has a punchers chance, if he doesn't land then Mayweathet will just keep moving and countering.

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He probably means that McGregor has never had a professional boxing match.

12/1, lol. Unless Floyd is shot to shit (not likely), it should be 120/1.

So for arguments sake, let's just say that Conor lands that big, bad, powerful left hand. And then let's assume that Floyd doesn't just fall down and die.

The fuck do people think is going to happen then? If Floyd wants to move, and box, and keep Conor away, he'll do it for 12 rounds without breaking a sweat.

Boxing is as much about the feet as it is the hands. The difference in foot speed and placement in this fight is going to be fucking L. O. L.

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I'm with you. I will say I was surprised and a little in awe how Floyd said he didn't want the fight, he was retired, that he's 40 and not the fighter he was even 2 years ago, etc. And he sounded genuine and almost contrite

arbitrary bit of perspective because sometimes i need things like this to bring me back down to earth:


nate diaz outboxed conor. real badly.

I honestly think that Mayweather has nothing to gain by winning this fight. If he takes a dive the rematch will be the biggest PPV of all time $$$

I can't believe they are doing 4 of these press conferences. One closer to the fight is all the promo they need, like anyone who would care doesn't know about it or something. By the 4th one it is going to be pretty old.

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Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler

I can't believe they are doing 4 of these press conferences. One closer to the fight is all the promo they need, like anyone who would care doesn't know about it or something. By the 4th one it is going to be pretty old.

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You must be an expert in promotion or something.

 

Or maybe you just stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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Originally Posted by The_Lurker

I honestly think that Mayweather has nothing to gain by winning this fight. If he takes a dive the rematch will be the biggest PPV of all time $$$

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I'm not so sure on this unless it's an epic battle.

You don't see Mayweather/Pac fighting a re-match. People were thoroughly disappointed with that clusterfuck.

https://www.thescore.com/news/1331012

Floyd Mayweather Jr. may have a few bumps and bruises heading into his blockbuster bout with Conor McGregor.

Floyd Mayweather Sr. told FOX Sports 11 that he doesn't expect his son to knock out McGregor when the two meet in their Aug. 26 boxing match due to an issue with Mayweather Jr.'s hand.

"I ain't gonna say a knockout, because my son got a hand problem," Mayweather Sr. said Tuesday. "That's a true story, he got a hand problem."

Mayweather Sr. declined to elaborate on the severity of the "problem" or specify whether it affected both hands, but he remained confident that his son will dispatch the UFC lightweight champion with ease in Las Vegas.

"He gonna make Conor McGregor look like a fool," said Mayweather Sr. "Believe me."

Even with a 49-0 record, Mayweather Jr. has never been known for his concussive knockout power. He hasn't finished an opponent inside the distance since beating Victor Ortiz in the fourth round of a Sept. 17, 2011 contest, and even that result was shrouded in controversy when Mayweather appeared to land shots on an unprepared Ortiz following a break in action.