Coping w/Severe Depression & Regrets (Venting)

With the sole exception of Larry staying true to form, I want to extend my sincere thanks for all the positive feedback and insight offered.

Its all very much appreciated, trust me

Depression is a real bitch, but so is life for that matter

I will say that I'm taking an extremely bold step very shortly to confront aspects of my life that have become unmanageable, and will definitely share all the details with this community when the opportunity presents itself.

I guess its fair to characterize as a 'blockbuster' turn of events that will certainly not disappoint.

Stay tuned, and thanks to all for the thoughtful replies and encouragement

Tyde,

Though I posted this before but aparently I didn't. My wife is a licensed clinical social worker. She deals with people who are way more fucked upnthen yourslef on a daily basis. What she tells people is to take comfort in the fact that no feeling lasts forever. When you think you hit rock bottom it's actually a good thing because it can only get better from there. You never feel the same way today that you will tomorrow.

Hang in there.

"Depression is a real bitch, but so is life for that matter"

Nailed it Buddy. Having dealt with depression several times in my life I have concluded that things are never as bad as they seem at the time and conversely never as good as they feel at the time. I have come to look at life as a series of problems to be solved much like a puzzle. This has helped me deal with adversity in a more constructive way and not feel so sorry for myself when shit hits the fan. It may also come from the wisdom you gain as you age. Maybe you are having an enlightenment moment.

I am obviously not alone when I say I admire how you have turned your life around and how eloquent your writing skills are. You definitely should write a book about your life. I hope your mind finds the peace it is seeking soon.

Tyde,

You wrote that you have a way with words and I agree. I always joked that you have a book in you. Would definitely read.

I always get a kick out of your boy, Druff, and his love of the nostalgia of his youth. It's cool that he clearly perceives that time in an idealized way. It's an interesting insight into his life. It's not something we all share.

I read your observations about your father etc. There hopefully comes a point in our lives when we stop blaming our parents. Yeah, it's part of the recipe for who we are but recognize it and move on.

I got kids. I did the best I could with them. I know they have some issues with me. You know what? I don't give a shit. Sure I would prefer they like me but I am not their pal - I am their father. Hopefully, they live a fulfilling life without me. That was my job. If I failed them somehow hopefully they have the tools to overcome it. It's up to them.

I'm past it and so should they & you be.

Depression is a brain chemistry thing from what I know. I can't presume to personally understand. You can't rationalize your way out of it. See a doctor and noodle out some light pharma to control it. Alcohol ain't the answer.

Your life's adventure has been unique. You didn't spend 30 years doing 9-5 in a fluorescent lit cubicle. Whatever your occasional regrets about the path taken, your experiences good & bad are light years more interesting to the rest of us. Combined with your angst and gift for gab we have the recipe for some great storytelling or at the very least interesting dinner conversation.

Aside from the book & story I selfishly want, there will always be some way to harness your unique experience if you are lucky enough to find the right audience - employer, investor, publisher, podcaster, whatever... you pick.

Lighten up bitch. You're a fascinating character.

Always a fan.

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Originally Posted by Tyde

With the sole exception of Larry staying true to form, I want to extend my sincere thanks for all the positive feedback and insight offered.

Its all very much appreciated, trust me

Depression is a real bitch, but so is life for that matter

I will say that I'm taking an extremely bold step very shortly to confront aspects of my life that have become unmanageable, and will definitely share all the details with this community when the opportunity presents itself.

I guess its fair to characterize as a 'blockbuster' turn of events that will certainly not disappoint.

Stay tuned, and thanks to all for the thoughtful replies and encouragement

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It's this isn't it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9pL0YYHKzY?t=1m37s

I forgot to ask earlier, work will sometimes help with depression in that there's less time to ruminate etc. Has the work helped at all in that way?

Hell yeah. Tyde still god.

Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk

GL Tyde -Easy does it.

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Originally Posted by Tyde

With the sole exception of Larry staying true to form, I want to extend my sincere thanks for all the positive feedback and insight offered.

Its all very much appreciated, trust me

Depression is a real bitch, but so is life for that matter

I will say that I'm taking an extremely bold step very shortly to confront aspects of my life that have become unmanageable, and will definitely share all the details with this community when the opportunity presents itself.

I guess its fair to characterize as a 'blockbuster' turn of events that will certainly not disappoint.

Stay tuned, and thanks to all for the thoughtful replies and encouragement

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Mexico/Stars/Tequila

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I'm just relieved no one is blaming substance abuse in this thread. Nothing has been demonized more for mental well being. The problem isnt people getting high/drunk, its how people manage their heads when they are sober that leads people to wellness.

#choices

#responsibilityforself

Martin

Wow, a lot of people can't admit/let out what you've done here. If indeed you are trying to change that was a brave step.

I hope you can understand how some people may doubt your sincerity. Abusers often make promises/confessions only to lapse into another cycle more extreme that previous.

Eventually, its our choice who each of us is. The encouraging thing about your post is it appears you are accepting responsibility for your actions/choices rather than externalizing.

Maybe you will find comfort in something I tell myself: in life it is not where you end up but how far you travel

Good luck!

One thing I've always respected about tyde is that he's man enough to never play that fucking substance victim card. He carries his drink like a man.

People crying foul about addiction when they are really depressed is the ultimate pussy move; deal with your problems, not your excuses.

Since this is kind of like AA, where one has to make amends to those he has wronged, let's have Tyde start with Druff and see where this takes us:

I went through a period of depression in my early 20's. Lots of drinking and gambling did not help.

Regular exercise actually solved everything for me.

I get a bit of the blues now and then living in shifty Portland weather but just force myself to still do thints regardless.

Therapy may help with daddy issues. Be serious about rehab if that's what you are referring to. Drinking can't possibly still be fun

I blame obamacare...

All jokes aside, you may be a failure at life but you have provided us endless amounts of entertainment so I wish you the best. Nothing would make me more happy for you than to see you hit another 35k score and live n!gga rich for a few months in mexico and posting pics. Godspeed.

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I went through a period of depression in my early 20's. Lots of drinking and gambling did not help.

Regular exercise actually solved everything for me.

I get a bit of the blues now and then living in shifty Portland weather but just force myself to still do thints regardless.

Therapy may help with daddy issues. Be serious about rehab if that's what you are referring to. Drinking can't possibly still be fun

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Excercise has saved my ass I highly recommend it
Ever think about getting one of these ?

http://www.alaskanorthernlights.com/...FR24wAodGOMPhA

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Originally Posted by LarryLaffer

Don't mean to hijack, but I would like to respond to FTP:





such a nicely worded post. . You think all the germans weren't nazis? you're right they weren't. but guess what buddy? if they weren't working for them one way, they were working for them another. Lots of germans turned over jews to the nazis to save themselves. If they didn't comply, they went to the gas chambers. pretty sick huh. I don't know what this proves, but it's what happened.

You use the word estimated. Estimates are not a real number. they're a guess. a hypothesis.

I use that word too. Like when I had to estimate how much time it took for THC to leave my system. it was an estimate, not a hard real number. Sometimes it was 10 days, sometimes it was 14. So estimated 10% of muslims are radicalized? Let me see some stats to back that up. Until then, that's a fucking estimate. so yeah. it could be 1% of muslims. it could be 50%. do we even know? No we don't. How can we know? there's over a billion muslims in the world. have we polled all of them to find out their views on Jihad? I don't think we have.

How can you trust any information coming from our government? really. have you not learned yet?

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JFC larry. You win the prize for fucking up a thread.



http://imgur.com/a/HsI40

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hey Lurker!

put a quarter in your ass, because you played yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA0JsQvTEtc

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Originally Posted by sonatine

One thing I've always respected about tyde is that he's man enough to never play that fucking substance victim card. He carries his drink like a man.

People crying foul about addiction when they are really depressed is the ultimate pussy move; deal with your problems, not your excuses.

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Not clear here, depression comes before alcohol. People with bad depression don't care about much such as being labelled an addict. It's the more visible flaw but not the root problem.

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With the sole exception of Larry staying true to form, I want to extend my sincere thanks for all the positive feedback and insight offered.

Its all very much appreciated, trust me

Depression is a real bitch, but so is life for that matter

I will say that I'm taking an extremely bold step very shortly to confront aspects of my life that have become unmanageable, and will definitely share all the details with this community when the opportunity presents itself.

I guess its fair to characterize as a 'blockbuster' turn of events that will certainly not disappoint.

Stay tuned, and thanks to all for the thoughtful replies and encouragement

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Mexico/Stars/Tequila

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This is some great advice!!

If you don't like your father you can do what I did.

We all love marty but come on. He suffers from depression and regrets saying some nasty shit to both family and friends. Is this anything all of us didn't already know?

I want to hear this epic story coming up. Fucking Marty been working around only men for months. Maybe he fell in love who the fuck knows. Can't wait to hear though.

Marty when you said you were going to go on the boat for an extended period, I did think the hardest part of this for you would be leaving Tommy.

You must be close to finishing your 4 month stint soon - what are your plans once you have some free time back?

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Marty when you said you were going to go on the boat for an extended period, I did think the hardest part of this for you would be leaving Tommy.

You must be close to finishing your 4 month stint soon - what are your plans once you have some free time back?

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yes how is tommy doing?
lol @ that video of him just running around the house in circles going nuts I watched it at least 5 times and just loled everytime

Makes sense why you are feeling especially down. New job, trump winning, sober time. It's been going very well but now your work coming to possible end and you have to look at next steps along with facing reality of past choices. Even positive change can be stressful. Hang in there.

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Originally Posted by Tyde

With the sole exception of Larry staying true to form, I want to extend my sincere thanks for all the positive feedback and insight offered.

Its all very much appreciated, trust me

Depression is a real bitch, but so is life for that matter

I will say that I'm taking an extremely bold step very shortly to confront aspects of my life that have become unmanageable, and will definitely share all the details with this community when the opportunity presents itself.

I guess its fair to characterize as a 'blockbuster' turn of events that will certainly not disappoint.

Stay tuned, and thanks to all for the thoughtful replies and encouragement

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We are all looking forward to hearing more. When does your next boat assignment start?

Marty -
Does this mean you are telling me you're sorry for your behavior towards me?

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

Marty -
Does this mean you are telling me you're sorry for your behavior towards me?

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I don't see a single reference in my post reaching out to apologize to forum community scumbags.

If you had a set of balls, you'd be posting openly as fuhoser...but you choose to play the dupe card

No, you're not 'forgiven' because you're a backstabbing creep badmouthing me repeatedly.

Post a public apology on PFA to me and I might consider speaking to you again if I'm in the mood to be forgiving that day

I will probably tell you to eat shit and die anyway

I hate the fact that my last post is so unforgiving, but Brian aka fuhoser aka his current dupe has been a borderline stalker who goes dark for months until I post, then when I contribute , he suddenly reappears with some scathing critique and character assassination posting under an alias nobody recognizes because when he posted as fuhoser he got his shit packed in by the entire community. No wonder he loves dupes.

There has been some good thoughts provided in this thread.

I am going to offer one idea that may be helpful to you. I cannot clearly explain why so I won’t try.

In your spare time set aside, a weekend to a week, at a time when you are not working to help some of the true unfortunates in life. In your travels you may be able to find some great opportunities.

I had a friend who provided support for an orphanage in Thailand. I do not mean he sent a few dollars each month and got an update letter. He lived there for some time and became personally involved, never officially. You may see some of the darkest side of humanity or at least the consequences in a place like that. Due to one of your prior posts you may be hesitant because of that thought. I think that going and helping in whatever capacity you are able to offer will provide benefits that far outweigh the downside.

The orphanage is something that is too complex for me to concisely describe. Some days I feel like someone shirking a responsibility due to not doing more. But I am thankful for what I gained in the experience.

I had another friend who, due to some strange, random circumstances became involved in the Special Olympics. All I will say is that I learned a lot about being happy and enjoying life from a bunch of retard’s.

The only advice I offer would be to NOT go through many of the publicized organizations. There are many places, especially in poorer countries, that work hard, from the heart and for all the right reasons that really need help. Some may be sceptical in the beginning and whether they say it explicitly or not you will be on probation. However, these places desperately need help and assistance and will not usually outright turn you away. From what I have gleaned about you I believe you could do wonderfully in these circumstances. Your cooking expertise would be greatly appreciated. Your organizational skills etc. would all be put to use after a get to know you period. Just go and do.

I hope you don’t laugh or shrug this off as nonsensical. It is an experience that is beneficially life changing.

Wish you well.

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I had another friend who, due to some strange, random circumstances became involved in the Special Olympics. All I will say is that I learned a lot about being happy and enjoying life from a bunch of retard’s.
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Not bad advice, but this made me laugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkzaOwAmDmA?list=RDOkzaOwAmDmA

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Originally Posted by NEVER BEEN

There has been some good thoughts provided in this thread.

I am going to offer one idea that may be helpful to you. I cannot clearly explain why so I won’t try.

In your spare time set aside, a weekend to a week, at a time when you are not working to help some of the true unfortunates in life. In your travels you may be able to find some great opportunities.

I had a friend who provided support for an orphanage in Thailand. I do not mean he sent a few dollars each month and got an update letter. He lived there for some time and became personally involved, never officially. You may see some of the darkest side of humanity or at least the consequences in a place like that. Due to one of your prior posts you may be hesitant because of that thought. I think that going and helping in whatever capacity you are able to offer will provide benefits that far outweigh the downside.

The orphanage is something that is too complex for me to concisely describe. Some days I feel like someone shirking a responsibility due to not doing more. But I am thankful for what I gained in the experience.

I had another friend who, due to some strange, random circumstances became involved in the Special Olympics. All I will say is that I learned a lot about being happy and enjoying life from a bunch of retard’s.

The only advice I offer would be to NOT go through many of the publicized organizations. There are many places, especially in poorer countries, that work hard, from the heart and for all the right reasons that really need help. Some may be sceptical in the beginning and whether they say it explicitly or not you will be on probation. However, these places desperately need help and assistance and will not usually outright turn you away. From what I have gleaned about you I believe you could do wonderfully in these circumstances. Your cooking expertise would be greatly appreciated. Your organizational skills etc. would all be put to use after a get to know you period. Just go and do.

I hope you don’t laugh or shrug this off as nonsensical. It is an experience that is beneficially life changing.

Wish you well.

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You know none of these activities look like fun at all..... NO hookers, booze, gambling, fucking poker, dogs, jeeps still have the jeep marty?...weed, smokes, good tequila not the shitty mexican stuff.

I think marty wants to change a few things about his life but he isnt gone nuts.
The poor guy has been on anboat for four months dude he aint going to have time for any of that kind of stuff for quite a bit.... i would think.

EDIT: all that said marty aint going to push a old lady to get into the strip club and he will always have a few sheckles for some less fortunate of course, so don't get the wrong idea. He does his part ok?

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I hate the fact that my last post is so unforgiving, but Brian aka fuhoser aka his current dupe has been a borderline stalker who goes dark for months until I post, then when I contribute , he suddenly reappears with some scathing critique and character assassination posting under an alias nobody recognizes because when he posted as fuhoser he got his shit packed in by the entire community. No wonder he loves dupes.

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Really? You are one sad, paranoid creep.

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Originally Posted by Tyde

I hate the fact that my last post is so unforgiving, but Brian aka fuhoser aka his current dupe has been a borderline stalker who goes dark for months until I post, then when I contribute , he suddenly reappears with some scathing critique and character assassination posting under an alias nobody recognizes because when he posted as fuhoser he got his shit packed in by the entire community. No wonder he loves dupes.

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Really? You are one sad, paranoid creep.

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He really is. I'm sure he'll accuse you of being me.

If I were to force him to describe what I did to him, he'd be at a loss.

He started a thread up about me, trying to out me with a mixture of things he deemed embarrassing and bullshit he'd been told. He will gladly fuck over anyone if he thinks it'll bring him more attention. I believe that came after I sent a sincere condolences for Winnie.

I've posted on and off on here for years, under only 1 account. I don't try and hide who I am, but I don't think most people are from around back then.

What a weirdo. I posted several times days ago, yet Marty thinks I troll around looking after him. Anyone can read my post history and see it has very little to do with Marty.

Nothing has changed here folks. This is just another variation of the 'me me me' theme. Marty will never change. The mental illness goes far beyond depression. I would suggest anyone who doesn't already know Marty to not think you'll enjoy his company unless you just love babbling drunkards.

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

Marty -
Does this mean you are telling me you're sorry for your behavior towards me?

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I don't see a single reference in my post reaching out to apologize to forum community scumbags.

If you had a set of balls, you'd be posting openly as fuhoser...but you choose to play the dupe card

No, you're not 'forgiven' because you're a backstabbing creep badmouthing me repeatedly.

Post a public apology on PFA to me and I might consider speaking to you again if I'm in the mood to be forgiving that day

I will probably tell you to eat shit and die anyway

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I apologize for being really mean to you after you decided to randomly attack me for no reason.

I apologize for https://twitter.com/martydoesvegas but do not for a second think I created that account or posted most of the messages on there. The password was sent to me at some point.

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Originally Posted by Tyde

I don't see a single reference in my post reaching out to apologize to forum community scumbags.

If you had a set of balls, you'd be posting openly as fuhoser...but you choose to play the dupe card

No, you're not 'forgiven' because you're a backstabbing creep badmouthing me repeatedly.

Post a public apology on PFA to me and I might consider speaking to you again if I'm in the mood to be forgiving that day

I will probably tell you to eat shit and die anyway

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I apologize for being really mean to you after you decided to randomly attack me for no reason.

I apologize for https://twitter.com/martydoesvegas but do not for a second think I created that account or posted most of the messages on there. The password was sent to me at some point.

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How thoughtful of you to include a link to a forgotten, idle, fake twitter account dedicated to impersonating me denying you had nothing to do with its inception or content.

Brian you make my skin crawl

Over the last decade +....I've met at least a dozen posters from within this community...

You are the nut low

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Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied

I apologize for being really mean to you after you decided to randomly attack me for no reason.

I apologize for https://twitter.com/martydoesvegas but do not for a second think I created that account or posted most of the messages on there. The password was sent to me at some point.

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How thoughtful of you to include a link to a forgotten, idle, fake twitter account dedicated to impersonating me denying you had nothing to do with its inception or content.

Brian you make my skin crawl

Over the last decade +....I've met at least a dozen posters from within this community...

You are the nut low

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That is why you were begging me to buy a ticket to San Diego to move into that Mexican slum on the beach with you ?

I think that was the last time we talked on the phone in a serious manner.

That twitter is funny. Honestly, I have nothing to apologize for except being mean to you after you asked for it. I am ruthless though, but you deserve no better.

Enjoy the rest of your life, young Martin. You're going to need all the help you can get.

There are a lot of ways these days to fix a brain that isnt working properly. Diet, exercise, change of lifestyle, limiting the booze/drugs, etc. I drink WAY to much and notice that it effects how anxious I am. This is because I am basically going through a form of alcohol withdrawal every time i stop. The anxiety is worse the more I drink because my brain makes less "feel good" chemicals. But I accepted this as one of the side effects of drinking, and I am ok with it. To discount how much alcohol can exasperate depression and anxiety is being naive . So many people I know have fixed depression/anxiety issues when they stopped drinking or cut way back. There are obviously a ton of other factors including having a purpose, exercise, family, friends blah blah blah. But it is hard to look at these if your brain chemistry is constantly a mess because of substances.

Maybe some day through some medical breakthrough we will be able to give our brains a "free lunch" when it comes to how we treat it. But for now, overwhelmingly, nature gives no free rides and your brains pays a price for over indulging.

With that said, some people simply need medicine to boost the "feel good" neurotransmitters. They have either fucked up their brains to the point they cant be repaired or genetics/life experiences have given them a brain that needs the help.

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There are a lot of ways these days to fix a brain that isnt working properly. Diet, exercise, change of lifestyle, limiting the booze/drugs, etc. I drink WAY to much and notice that it effects how anxious I am. This is because I am basically going through a form of alcohol withdrawal every time i stop. The anxiety is worse the more I drink because my brain makes less "feel good" chemicals. But I accepted this as one of the side effects of drinking, and I am ok with it. To discount how much alcohol can exasperate depression and anxiety is being naive . So many people I know have fixed depression/anxiety issues when they stopped drinking or cut way back. There are obviously a ton of other factors including having a purpose, exercise, family, friends blah blah blah. But it is hard to look at these if your brain chemistry is constantly a mess because of substances.

Maybe some day through some medical breakthrough we will be able to give our brains a "free lunch" when it comes to how we treat it. But for now, overwhelmingly, nature gives no free rides and your brains pays a price for over indulging.

With that said, some people simply need medicine to boost the "feel good" neurotransmitters. They have either fucked up their brains to the point they cant be repaired or genetics have given them a brain that needs the help.

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I suspect that people like us who like to drink real heavy have a more anti-depressant effect from booze. I agree about depression. Booze just makes it all a constant up/down cycle.

It is worse with Marty because I suspect he fucks up a lot of friendships with his drunkenness.

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There are a lot of ways these days to fix a brain that isnt working properly. Diet, exercise, change of lifestyle, limiting the booze/drugs, etc. I drink WAY to much and notice that it effects how anxious I am. This is because I am basically going through a form of alcohol withdrawal every time i stop. The anxiety is worse the more I drink because my brain makes less "feel good" chemicals. But I accepted this as one of the side effects of drinking, and I am ok with it. To discount how much alcohol can exasperate depression and anxiety is being naive . So many people I know have fixed depression/anxiety issues when they stopped drinking or cut way back. There are obviously a ton of other factors including having a purpose, exercise, family, friends blah blah blah. But it is hard to look at these if your brain chemistry is constantly a mess because of substances.

Maybe some day through some medical breakthrough we will be able to give our brains a "free lunch" when it comes to how we treat it. But for now, overwhelmingly, nature gives no free rides and your brains pays a price for over indulging.

With that said, some people simply need medicine to boost the "feel good" neurotransmitters. They have either fucked up their brains to the point they cant be repaired or genetics have given them a brain that needs the help.

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Spot on post as usual

Im posting a follow up to my OP in a few days which will light this place up like a fucking Christmas tree.

The coalition with alcohol and depression is difficult to explain...both tend to feed each other, and it never ends well

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There are a lot of ways these days to fix a brain that isnt working properly. Diet, exercise, change of lifestyle, limiting the booze/drugs, etc. I drink WAY to much and notice that it effects how anxious I am. This is because I am basically going through a form of alcohol withdrawal every time i stop. The anxiety is worse the more I drink because my brain makes less "feel good" chemicals. But I accepted this as one of the side effects of drinking, and I am ok with it. To discount how much alcohol can exasperate depression and anxiety is being naive . So many people I know have fixed depression/anxiety issues when they stopped drinking or cut way back. There are obviously a ton of other factors including having a purpose, exercise, family, friends blah blah blah. But it is hard to look at these if your brain chemistry is constantly a mess because of substances.

Maybe some day through some medical breakthrough we will be able to give our brains a "free lunch" when it comes to how we treat it. But for now, overwhelmingly, nature gives no free rides and your brains pays a price for over indulging.

With that said, some people simply need medicine to boost the "feel good" neurotransmitters. They have either fucked up their brains to the point they cant be repaired or genetics have given them a brain that needs the help.

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I suspect that people like us who like to drink real heavy have a more anti-depressant effect from booze. I agree about depression. Booze just makes it all a constant up/down cycle.



It is worse with Marty because I suspect he fucks up a lot of friendships with his drunkenness.

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That is a good point. It does seem to work differently for different people. I drink to make things/people more interesting. So yes, it is definitely a form of an anti depressant for me. It also slows things down and helps me focus. It is all about balancing it with other things which is obviously easier said than done.

“It has been said that alcohol is a good servant and a bad master. Nice try. The plain fact is that it makes other people, and indeed life itself, a good deal less boring.”

― Christopher Hitchens, Everyday Drinking

Hitchens died because of alcoholism and smoking (cancer). He gambled on this lifestyle and probably died 10-15 years early. Before his death he was asked about his lifestyle. He said he wouldnt have changed a thing, as it all made his life better. That is kind of how I feel. We are on this rock for such a short period of time. I rather have 60 years of enjoying life then 70 years with a lot of boredom mixed in.

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There are a lot of ways these days to fix a brain that isnt working properly. Diet, exercise, change of lifestyle, limiting the booze/drugs, etc. I drink WAY to much and notice that it effects how anxious I am. This is because I am basically going through a form of alcohol withdrawal every time i stop. The anxiety is worse the more I drink because my brain makes less "feel good" chemicals. But I accepted this as one of the side effects of drinking, and I am ok with it. To discount how much alcohol can exasperate depression and anxiety is being naive . So many people I know have fixed depression/anxiety issues when they stopped drinking or cut way back. There are obviously a ton of other factors including having a purpose, exercise, family, friends blah blah blah. But it is hard to look at these if your brain chemistry is constantly a mess because of substances.

Maybe some day through some medical breakthrough we will be able to give our brains a "free lunch" when it comes to how we treat it. But for now, overwhelmingly, nature gives no free rides and your brains pays a price for over indulging.

With that said, some people simply need medicine to boost the "feel good" neurotransmitters. They have either fucked up their brains to the point they cant be repaired or genetics have given them a brain that needs the help.

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Spot on post as usual

Im posting a follow up to my OP in a few days which will light this place up like a fucking Christmas tree.

The coalition with alcohol and depression is difficult to explain...both tend to feed each other, and it never ends well

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They definitely feed each other which is why it is so hard to stop especially if you have been over doing it for a long time. I was super impressed that you were able to do all that time on the ship . No chance I could have been that disciplined. So it definitely shows you have control/will power when you put your mind to it. Good luck with the fight.

Wait...so Marty is gonna completely turn it around at age 70? Well, call me skeptical.