Well, it's immensely difficult to follow Tine's savage gutting of Mumblefuck, but I will try:
Jury deadlocked in Yanez's trial, judge ordered them back to continue deliberating.
http://www.twincities.com/2017/06/14...deliberations/
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Well, it's immensely difficult to follow Tine's savage gutting of Mumblefuck, but I will try:
Jury deadlocked in Yanez's trial, judge ordered them back to continue deliberating.
http://www.twincities.com/2017/06/14...deliberations/
Actually Mumblefuck, it took 12.Quote:
Originally Posted by wrenchjockey
Not guilty on all counts.
http://www.twincities.com/2017/06/16...-paul-verdict/
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MumblesBadly: Are you celebrating that this verdict helps to give incomptent cops carte blanche to kill innocent people who frighten them?
Show me anywhere where you can assume I'm celebrating? Are you that desperate to throw your beliefs around that you've lowered yourself to attacking someone who simply posted the resolution to a thread? Are your reading comprehension skills so low now that all you can glean is checking the fuel gauge for how many more miles until you have to fuel up your shit sled and choke down a chicken fried steak? Nice reach, but stick to reaching under bathroom stalls during your morning shit for your gratification.
Not that surprising. The department he worked for likely made sure that he would never work again as a cop, but likely didn't work too hard to see him convicted and the same might have been true for the whole prosecution side. Dunno depends on what testimonies were given by who ect.
Being scared isn't exactly a good enough reason to shoot someone when you put yourself in to that situation.
did anyone see the video of what the mom had to say?
tbh, this was a fucking miscarriage of justice and a fucking travesty.
and if they fucking riot and tear the city down I will respect it. I will gladly respect it.
that's right Minneapolis/St. Paul: you deserve to burn like LA did in '92
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1DV_EDSoF0
quick reminder; its safer in America to be a white rapist than a black man driving with his family. but maga tho right? thats still happening?
You didn't just post the resolution, dickface. Somehow you think you were bitchslapping me by referencing the initial story about the hung jury. If you had any fucking clue about my position about this matter, you'd know that I am thoroughly pissed about the outcome. So, you either have a serioius problem with reading comprehension or you were goading me by gloating over the outcome. Which one was it, fuckmonkey?Quote:
Originally Posted by wrenchjockey
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Originally Posted by MumblesBadlyYou didn't just post the resolution, dickface. Somehow you think you were bitchslapping me by referencing the initial story about the hung jury. If you had any fucking clue about my position about this matter, you'd know that I am thoroughly pissed about the outcome. So, you either have a serioius problem with reading comprehension or you were goading me by gloating over the outcome. Which one was it, fuckmonkey?Quote:
Originally Posted by wrenchjockey
ROFL, you call him "fuckmonkey" because you are too thick to figure it out.
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Originally Posted by MumblesBadlyYou didn't just post the resolution, dickface. Somehow you think you were bitchslapping me by referencing the initial story about the hung jury. If you had any fucking clue about my position about this matter, you'd know that I am thoroughly pissed about the outcome. So, you either have a serioius problem with reading comprehension or you were goading me by gloating over the outcome. Which one was it, fuckmonkey?Quote:
Originally Posted by wrenchjockey
I feel like my reading comprehension is pretty good at the moment. I haven't seen one time where Wrench was gloating about this.
in fact, as someone who (i think) lives in MN, i'm pretty sure he's pissed that his state is too backwards as fuck to convict a fucking murdering cop.
then again, i live in chicago, where we are months away from letting the cop who shot the kid 16 times go. that will also be a not guilty.
quick reminder. black males commit a shitload more violent crimes compared to other races. If Asians or white males were as statistically as dangerous, the cops would have a hard on for them as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
The vast majority of cops are not racist and just want to go home at the end of the night. If they were racist, why would they be targeting black males and not black females? Black males are creating the stereotype because it is true, and the thugs are fucking it up for the black males that are trying to get ahead in life.
Once they stop committing a disproportionate amount of violent crime, then these stories will mostly vanish as there will be less interactions with cops. Yes, there are bad fucking cops , but there are a lot of bad young black males who have no jobs , broken families and nothing to do . I bored teenager with no education, no family unit and Al Sharpton telling him over and over again he is a victim s a ticking time bomb.
You don't understand... Sonatine is a liberal, Mr. Garrison.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmoneyquick reminder. black males commit a shitload more violent crimes compared to other races. If Asians or white males were as statistically as dangerous, the cops would have a hard on for them as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
The vast majority of cops are not racist and just want to go home at the end of the night. If they were racist, why would they be targeting black males and not black females? Black males are creating the stereotype because it is true, and the thugs are fucking it up for the black males that are trying to get ahead in life.
Once they stop committing a disproportionate amount of violent crime, then these stories will mostly vanish as there will be less interactions with cops. Yes, there are bad fucking cops , but there are a lot of bad young black males who have no jobs , broken families and nothing to do . I bored teenager with no education, no family unit and Al Sharpton telling him over and over again he is a victim s a ticking time bomb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrfZgrPbpAA
feels?
FML, You know you are having a bad day when wrenchjockey mistakes you for mumblestard.
Youre not completely wrong but if youre basically saying blacks are programmed to be more dangerous, as opposed to them being products of their respective environments, then whats your solution?Quote:
Originally Posted by cmoneyquick reminder. black males commit a shitload more violent crimes compared to other races. If Asians or white males were as statistically as dangerous, the cops would have a hard on for them as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
The vast majority of cops are not racist and just want to go home at the end of the night. If they were racist, why would they be targeting black males and not black females? Black males are creating the stereotype because it is true, and the thugs are fucking it up for the black males that are trying to get ahead in life.
Once they stop committing a disproportionate amount of violent crime, then these stories will mostly vanish as there will be less interactions with cops. Yes, there are bad fucking cops , but there are a lot of bad young black males who have no jobs , broken families and nothing to do . I bored teenager with no education, no family unit and Al Sharpton telling him over and over again he is a victim s a ticking time bomb.
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Originally Posted by varysYoure not completely wrong but if youre basically saying blacks are programmed to be more dangerous, as opposed to them being products of their respective environments, then whats your solution?Quote:
Originally Posted by cmoney
Yes, they are being programmed by their respective shitty environments . It starts at the family level and goes downhill from there . I have zero ideas for solutions , and apparently, neither does the government . I am just illustrating why cops are more on edge around black males than males of any other race.
these cops have been getting away with murder for far too long, time to even the playground.
Time for an update on black violence since the national media will not cover it. I can go to Colin Flaherty's yt channel any time and there will be a stack of the craziest black on white crime you never heard of, the msm's literally engaged in a anti white conspiracy.
Black violence at Waffle House in Manheim -- DO WHITE PEOPLE DO IT TOO? 3 days ago
Black man kills 12 year old girl (black) with hammer -- Activists say child murder is a white thing 3 days ago
Yeah there's plenty more...
Here's the black/Soros solution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaixArxmTq0
So naive, have a look at some of the other victims the MSM didn't show, this one's powerful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i038EyvVN-E
I'm calling bullshit on this blanket narrative. In some US cities like Baltimore, cops are rewarded and promoted based on how many arrests they make AND police are given way more latitude by SCOTUS rulings on police procedure to stop and search random people seen on the street under the flimsiest claims of suspicious activity if that neighborhood is deemed by the police to be a "high crime area".Quote:
Originally Posted by cmoneyQuote:
Originally Posted by varys
Yes, they are being programmed by their respective shitty environments . It starts at the family level and goes downhill from there . I have zero ideas for solutions , and apparently, neither does the government . I am just illustrating why cops are more on edge around black males than males of any other race.
And guess which neighborhoods are overwheliming deemed as such: minority ones. And guess what is the number one type of suspected crime: illegal drug possesion or distribution. And that latitude results in the police having many more confrontational interactions with minorites, more arrests of them, and higher reported crime rates for those neighborhoods.
And those repeated confrontational interactions with police, often happening to young black males as soon as they reach tween years, teaches them that the cops are their enemies, so why respect the law when they are going to be abused by the cops regardless of how you behave.
Baltimore was and is a perfect example of what can happen when police are badly motivated and poorly monitored for how it treats citizens from the "wrong" neighborhoods. And the details of fucked up that place has been regarding police abuse of power is shockingly documented in the latest season of the Undisclosed Podcast: The Killing of Freddie Gray. Because if you think he died due to injuries sustained in a "rough ride", you have been bamboozled by a compliant mainstream press, and a self-serving state prosecutor's office that looked to politicially capitalize on appearing to get tough on police misconduct.
And what you will also learn from this podcast series, including how Baltimore city police were incentivize to go gangbusters on arresting people to make their numbers/get promoted by both a state government initiative to "get tough on crime" and police department career metrics will absolutely shock you to your core if you have any sense of justice.
You can find that season of the podcast here: http://undisclosed-podcast.com/episodes/miniseries-2/
Lol cmoney... saying theyre programmed by their shitty environment is pretty weak. I know you can be objective about almost any topic but youre speaking from a weird white privilege view here.
Just watch the 30 for 30 about boston and LA that just aired. Blacks were drawing stone dead to gain respect from whites as early as 50 years ago. Sports Illustrated was writing articles in fucking 1979 about whether the NBA was too black to take seriously as a professional sport. Todd was jacking off all over his keyboard within a couple years. Jewdonk had already fucked those beach bunnies.
one of the solutions to 'black violence' just got executed in his car in front of a wife and child for the unforgivable crime of absolutely nothing but being black.
so maybe i dont know, hows this for a step in the right direction; hold murderers with badges accountable.
AND SOMEONE TELL DORKSTORE'S UNETHICAL BROTHER TO HONOR HIS OATH
Let this be a lesson to all n-words who think they can get away with legally owning a gun.
Don't drive a shitty car while being an armed black man.
Now that the officer has been acquitted in a court of law.
Can he get his police job back so he can legally kill even more n-words?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N0tru_KSLE
The NRA has finally made it's statement......
Their response to a black man being killed WHILE LEGALLY CARRYING A FIREARM PER OUR SECOND AMENDMENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd0fBXwDBmo
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Originally Posted by TheXFactor
I'm sure he can, although I wouldn't think any departments that would want the publicity that would go along with hiring him. Immediately after the verdict, the St Anthony PD announced this:
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Yanez would no longer work there as a police officer. Officials said they would offer Yanez a “voluntary separation” because they had concluded “the public will be best served” if he is no longer an officer on the police force. He had been on paid administrative leave since the shooting.
im starting to think that these cops are shooting people for paid vacations
They released the squad's dash cam video today.
http://www.kare11.com/news/local/phi...deo-/450647572
No, Mumblefuck, this post isn't a celebration. It is a completely non-biased fact.
From the audio, you can hear that the cop stupidly got spooked when Castille reached for his gun permit. Because why would someone who was planning to use a gun to shot the cop announce just beforehand that he had one?!!! Because that's what you can hear just before the cop starting yelling "Don't pull it out!!!" What a negligent fucking moron that cop was!!! His yelling "Don't pull it out!!!" was clearly referring to a gun, which Castille most certainly understood to mean the gun, which he wasn't retrieving.Quote:
Originally Posted by wrenchjockey
A small consolation is that Yanez was let go from that police department. The bad news is that the chief of that department is doing in a manner that will minimize how bad this forced departure will look on his record, making it easier for Yanez to get a cop job elsewhere.
After watching the video, yes the cop got shook, but I can see how ***technically*** he got off. It was a split second decision where he made the wrong choice but that isn't murder. By the letter of the law it could easily be ruled justified which it was at trial. You can even tell with the afterwards comments from him how shook he was and really it was just a bad situation all around. The cop truly thought he was reaching for the gun right or wrong. It is clear as day listening to how the cop was reacting after it happened.
I was a little confused when they (the GF) said he was just trying to hand him his license when he initially handed him (what I thought) was his license right off the bat through the window. IDK.
Either way this goes back to training. So many things could have been done differently where this kid didn't have to have 4 bullets pumped into him at point blank range. The cop on the other side of the car seemed to be just lost in space wandering around, instead of walking up to the passenger door like they normally do if it is 2 of them. He probably could have prevented this if the other cop thought he was covered. The second he told hi he had a gun he should have said hands on the steering wheel and everyone would still be alive. Instead he said don't reach, and he reached....for something.
one of the root complaints for like 40 years has been that if you have a badge and a gun, there is a specific law in place (i dont know it sorry) that makes it virtually impossible for you to be convicted no matter how baseless you catching a body is.
the line in the sand is literally like murder for hire/profit, south of that you get a pass each and every time.
i forget why they cant change it but its something typically insane like 'unions lol' or whatever, but yeah its pure fucking madness; one poorly worded law makes all this possible/ongoing.
Tine goes in blackface to the olive garden so he can tip less
Agreed about the issue of training. But Tine's comments about the law also apply. Our politicians have to have the will to dismantle badly behaving police departments and implement effective training to reduce excessive police use of deadly force. Salt Lake City implemented a new training regime several years ago and have not had someone killed by the police there since 2015.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59...b03b485cae1129
A lot of it goes back to the militarization of police. Half these guys have been to war, or think they are in one every day out there where it is shoot first I'm not taking any chances. half of these clowns are so fucking gung ho looking for some action they are ready to pull that trigger way faster than they should be.
The truth is it is SO rare for a random guy you pulled over to pull out a gun and open fire, that should not be the default thing they think in a split second. Even if he is "reaching" or whatever. I have seen other videos where the cop could have easily blown the bad guy away...literally gun out and pointed at him....but composed himself and just took a nanosecond to assess the situation and held off. I know it is hard but unless you have a damn good reason to feel like the guy you are approaching is armed and dangerous (or you literally see a gun in his hand, or have it pointed at you), and has malice towards you for some reason, you just can't go to start firing off rounds that fast. It just makes no sense.
And them not being able to change the law has everything to do with the unions. They will NEVER let anything like that happen. So it will be "if you think you are in danger....." for the rest of our lifetimes, and innocent people will continue to get killed. As long as the cops can beat the charges by falling back on that they will continue to do so. It is an easy out.
Lets look at how the media and even Sonatine have framed the debate.
They're suggesting this cop shot an unarmed black man because he racist. There is absolutely 0% chance of that being the case. I guarantee you the last thing a racist cop wants to do is to shoot an unarmed black man and come under media and political scrutiny.
A racist cop will target blacks to pull over and search write tickets and in rare cases plant evidence but outside of that not much.
So cut it out.
Lets cut the bullshit, 99 out of 100 these officers just want to make it home alive. The real reason for these shootings is because of hip hop culture's promotion of gun violence that dominates every single black community.
Packing a gun is mandatory if you wanna be a G in the hood. How many times do you think those officers have found a pistol on a young black male? This is what makes them jumpy and mistakes can happen.
Some of these blacks aren't predators and wouldn't carry a gun but it's their only security. It sucks those guys are taking the fall for others and perhaps getting shot.
Sonatine maybe go to the black community and do some volunteer work and discuss this with them. Earn your liberal card haha. Wanna really help, end the war on drugs.
Good jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6yzJQANWHE
He gave the registration first. He is still following the order to give the license while complying with the later order of not pulling out his gun. He is doing literally everything he is asked to do. His mistake is assuming he is not dealing with an incompetent trigger happy idiot and he simply cannot follow his verbal orders.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
What Yanez did wrong was to specifically say "don't pull it out" (referring to the gun) while Castile is still looking for his license. If he wishes to have visibility of Castile's hands, he has to say that for every ones safety. If he wishes for Castile to stop moving, he has to say that. And there are protocols to make sure this situation never happens. Shooting someone when they are doing exactly what you've asked them to do.
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Originally Posted by Tyde
I heartily agree with everything you say here except the part implying that war experience would make cops more trigger happy. Probably in extreme PTSD cases, but this case suggests otherwise, probably because of ttaining to follow strict rules of engagement, and possibly because of experience with recognizing when someone is more likely to be a real threat. The former marine-turned-cop in this story avoided shooting a clearly armed black guy because he correctly assessed that the guy holding a gun wasn't actually posing an imminent threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
http://www.npr.org/2016/12/08/504718...this-vet-fired
It's the gunho Rambo-wannabes who've gotten all jacked up learning to shoot on the range but haven't been in actual combat who are the most dangerous.
Honestly, they just come off as kind of lazy and casual up until they killed an innocent man. Kind of sauntered up, was polite, and then just got terrifically shook because a black guy had a legal gun and moved. Programming glitch. The cops demeanor didn't suggest he was looking to kill someone. Just easily shook and attended one too many Inner warrior courses.
Usually that type of thing doesn't appeal to the alpha male you'd think. The insecure and those that lack confidence gravitate to that type of thing. That's what you see here. Inexperienced, insecure, and lacking confidence. Amazing they get off. Don't think they should do life or anything when it's an honest programming fuckup, but they need to do a decade when they take an entirely innocent life over a miscommunication on a tail light pull over.
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Originally Posted by BCR
oh except
Yanez told the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension:
“I thought, I was gonna die and I thought if he’s, if he has the, the guts and the audacity to smoke marijuana in front of the five-year-old girl and risk her lungs and risk her life by giving her secondhand smoke and the front seat passenger doing the same thing then what, what care does he give about me.”
Guys he shot him because he smelled weed in the car, which Im guessing was smoked by the wife.