Then you just spent more time with Brat than I have! He definitely falls along Tea Party lines. They shouldn't get any credit/blame for Brat's victory, though IMO. My friends and neighbors supporting him most were NOT the Tea Party types.
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I don't know shit about any of it, I just heard the interview. The thing they kept touching on was the immigration issue, which I think they felt was what led to his victory. But by victory, I mean that he may now have a very slim chance of taking a win in the actual election. I don't think that the entrenched republicans are done with this guy.
When I first read the thread title(didn't realize it was a misspelling until I read it) I immediately thought this guy with a very similar name had died:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...Flashback.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFsW6vvBwHk
Ann Coulter tried to make some sense of what happened with the election, she touches on the points of confusion addressed in the thread:
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http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-06-11.html
CANTOR LOSES BY 11 MILLION VOTERS
Economics professor Dave Brat crushed House Majority Leader Eric Cantor in the Republican primary Tuesday night, in a campaign that was mostly about Cantor's supporting amnesty for 11 million illegal aliens.
This marks the first time a U.S. House majority leader has ever lost a primary election.
His crushing defeat reinforces a central point: Whenever the voters know an election is about immigration, they will always vote against more immigration -- especially amnesty.
Cantor spent more than $5 million on his campaign. Brat spent less than $150,000. But Brat made the election about Cantor's support for amnesty, so he won.
The pro-amnesty crowd -- i.e., everyone except the American people -- promptly lost its collective mind. The amnesty shills went on the attack, insisting that Cantor's historic defeat had nothing to do amnesty. Brat's triumph was touted as simply a victory for the "tea party."
Of course, these are the same people who also try to persuade us that amnesty isn't "amnesty," illegal aliens aren't "illegal aliens" (they're "undocumented workers"!), and that there are 30 million jobs Americans won't do at any price.
In fact, however, the tea party had nothing to do with Brat's victory. Only the small, local tea party groups stand for anything anymore, but they're as different from the media-recognized "tea party" as lay Catholics are from the Catholic bishops.
National tea party groups did not contribute dime one to Brat. Not Freedom Works, not Club for Growth, not the Tea Party Express, not Tea Party Patriots. They were too busy denouncing Sen. Mitch McConnell -- who has consistently voted against amnesty.
As I have been warning you, the big, national tea party groups are mostly shysters and con-men raising money for their own self-aggrandizement. (Today, they're blast-faxing "media availability" notices to television networks claiming credit for Brat's victory.)
The Tea Party Express, for example, "represents" the views of ordinary Americans by supporting Chamber of Commerce demands for cheap labor through amnesty.
As Eric Hoffer said, "Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket."
Nonetheless, the claim that Brat's victory was a win for the tea party is everywhere -- pushed with suspicious insistence by people who do not usually wish the Republican Party well. Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schulz, for example, said: "Tonight's result in Virginia settles the debate once and for all -- the tea party has taken control of the Republican Party. Period."
Liberals apparently want Brat's victory to be seen as a win for the tea party, and not a defeat for amnesty.
At least acknowledging the obvious -- Brat's victory was about amnesty -- New York's Sen. Chuck Schumer said: "Cantor's defeat does not change the fundamental fact that Republicans will become a minority party if they don't address our broken immigration system."
And if anyone has the Republican Party's best interests at heart, it's gotta be Chuck Schumer!
Is Schumer's harangue enough to convince the bubbleheads in the GOP to say: Let's take it to the Democrats on this issue! They could start by asking Schumer: "How come we don't get to have the same immigration policy that Israel does?"
I like Israel's immigration policy: instant, unapologetic, unsentimental deportation of illegal aliens. Schumer obviously supports that policy, too. It's one of many Israeli policies we might try here at home, if only Schumer would let us.
Could it be that Schumer cares more about the survival of Israel than he does about the survival of the Republican Party?
On Fox News, Mark Thiessen assured viewers that Brat's victory was not about amnesty at all, but was an expression of the same anti-establishment sentiment we've seen elsewhere this year. He specifically cited Ben Sasse's victory in the Nebraska Senate GOP primary, and Chris McDaniel's forcing incumbent Sen. Thad Cochran into a run-off in Mississippi.
Let's take those:
(1) Ben Sasse was running for an open seat -- there was no "establishment" Republican to defeat.
(2) McDaniel has made his opposition to amnesty the centerpiece of his campaign.
We're 0 for 2, so far. What else you got?
There were, in fact, a couple of tea party challenges this year to so-called "establishment" Republican incumbents such as McConnell and John Cornyn. They both voted against the Schumer-Rubio amnesty. They both won.
That's 0 for 4.
Sen. Lindsey Graham's win last night is hardly a counter-example. His $8 million war chest discouraged serious challengers, he ended up with six opponents and, as a result, that race attracted no national anti-amnesty attention. Graham sure didn't stress his support for amnesty during the campaign. (He's saving that as a surprise!)
Fox News' Carl Cameron blamed Cantor's loss on the rain: "It's worth noting that the weather was foul here yesterday and today as well. So some of it may have been nature helping out David Brat."
Similarly, The New Yorker explained Cantor's loss by saying, "Low turnout undoubtedly played a role."
Sixty-five thousand ballots were cast in the Cantor-Brat contest. That is not a large turnout for a congressional primary election -- it's gigantic. In Cantor's 2012 primary, 47,037 people voted. In the only other two congressional primaries in Virginia on Tuesday -- the day with all that rain! -- 38,855 people voted in one and 17,444 in the other.
Every excuse in the book is being trotted out to claim this election was about anything but amnesty. Cantor was "arrogant." He was "out of touch." Democrats crossed over to vote for Brat. Cantor was "overconfident." (Also, the sun was in his eyes!)
It's all the same boilerplate used to rationalize any election loss. Let's take one. Overconfident? Are you kidding me? Cantor spent more than $5 million on a congressional primary!
Cantor's idiotic statements about amnesty lit up talk radio, were denounced daily on major websites such as Breitbart.com, and were the dominant theme of Brat's campaign, especially in the last few months. The influential Kausfiles.com became a one-man Eric Cantor Rapid Response Team on amnesty.
Brat didn't just win; he walloped Cantor, 55.5 percent to 44.5 percent.
Still not convinced Brat's victory was about amnesty? Then tell me why The New York Times ran this headline on Wednesday: "Why Did Cantor Lose? Not Easy to Explain."
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As a former resident of the Commonwealth of Virginia and still know many people in the area let me shed some even deep light on to this.. Cantor wasn't the self-absorbed douchebag he became once he took over the Majority Leaders post.. He actually was a pretty libertarian minded GOP member. His district was semi-purple in nature originally as it took in areas west and north of Richmond which was a combination of blue collar hard working folks but conservative along with some very well off rich folks with the smattering of people who moved out to the area of his district to avoid the nasty inner city issues even though it meant a longer commute but cheaper housing options.. When District 7 was re-drawn it actually became much much more Red..
Now to Cantor himself.. Cantor was actually my Congressman when I lived in North Central VA for a few yrs prior to moving out of state in 2002. I met the man and he seemed genuine down to earth and unlike a lot of standard political types VA was notorious for being soo close to Washington DC.. Cantor basically sold his soul and his personal ideology out to be part of the GOP power players.. The problem is the GOP power players such as Boehner much like those on the left care nothing for the people they represent and mostly about keeping and gaining political power.. Many don't know but Cantor was actually a Pro Choicer in reality however he never chose to beat the drum because his libertarian mentality was that Government needed to stay the hell out of peoples lives.. Sadly Cantor's ego and arrogance brought him down and the redistricting of the VA-7 is going to keep that seat Red for quite a time to come.. Virginia as a whole politically is very weird yes its gone Democrat the past 2 Presidential elections but as a whole VA is pretty conservative but in a libertarian fashion mostly..
The power blocks of blue in the state are predictable as they lie in and just around the Beltway in NoVA with a high concentration of Federal workers (of course they're gonna vote for big government it keeps them in their jobs and out of forced retirement or having to get a job in the real world where they'd never last).. The 2nd is around Richmond the State Capitol again partially due to government workers but Richmond has a history of generalized poverty and a high number of minorities living in the city itself and nearby suburbs. The last is weird as the Tidewater area is unique in that its a microcosm of the state itself.. Norfolk and Virginia Beach have high numbers of military members however most don't or cant vote in local elections as they tend to maintain their state residency where they lived prior to enlisting (it makes them exempt from state income tax as well as personal property taxes on cars, boats etc as the are simply viewed as out of state residents).. This negates what could or would be a major block of conservative voters itself.. Areas like Newport News, Hampton, Portsmouth are fairly poor areas as such they vote with their Welfare checks.. Virginia Beach itself and Norfolk still tends to be conservative overall so its a mix but still as a whole the region leans left...
I know Ive gotten u p on my soapbox but the truth is Cantors defeat isn't as much about pushing the party back Right as some have assumed my read on it as a former long time resident is that this was backlash from the GOPs actions in DC and the citizens growing sick and tired of excuses and more incumbants I think on both sides are in for a rude awakening either at primary time or come November.. However what it will change is beyond me.. I think the GOP may actually lose a few seats in the House but will maintain control. I think the GOP reclaims the Senate due to too many Democrats being vulnerable this election and they have a much higher number of seats up for election as incumbants vs the GOP.. As far as changing anything I doubt it does.. Obama thinks the laws don't apply to him therefore he will continue to rule or attempt by Fiat through Exec Decisions which depending on the route of the federal courts who end up weighing in will either lead to quick stoppage of a certain ED or pushed through.. (The 3rd leg of the Triumvirate in branches of government is badly askew.. Judges on both sides seem more hell bent on creating laws instead of either upholding them or actually judging them on their merits and constitutionality). States rights are going down the tube at an alarming rate and unless the tide is turned they might as well light the Constitution on fire because it seems no court gives 2 shits about the 10th amendment which above all else is the one that's constantly threatened.. Its this 10th amendment issue which could and alarmingly is really how Adelson plans to try and derail poker in this country.. By bastardizing once again the ICC it would blitz states rights again like PA, NJ, NV who've legally allowed online poker..
The names of the suspects have not been released, and a motive is not known, but witnesses told police that the shooters said "this is a revolution."
I agree with FTP that a backlash is a comin' and there will be a rude awakening in the coming primaries.
I am of the firm conviction that the international strength of the US politically and economically is on the wane. The decline is insidious and slow but undeniable.
The Iraq DD has me absolutely tilted. A fraud and misguided mission from the start. Our political system is too corrupt and dysfunctional to correct the mistake during these past fourteen fucking years. I am furious with the needless deaths of 1000's of servicemen, the 1000's of veterans disabled and the 4-5 trillion pissed away.
It's like the fall of Saigon as the mad scramble to flee Iraq begins.
Republicans & Democrats can both suck it. I will lay waste to all incumbents with my ballot.