Pete Rose DD

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Originally Posted by tgull

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Originally Posted by limitles

As a baseball player he was a standout.
Awards And Honors: Most Valuable Player (1973)Gold Glove (x2)World Series MVPSilver Slugger AwardRookie of the Year Award3x batting champion3 World Series championships1x MVP17x All-Star

He's in the Hall of Fame with that record.(except for)
Charlie hustle would start for any team in today's game

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What position? He mostly played 1st base and 3rd base in his career, and stints in the outfield. In today's game he would probably find a home in left field, and probably batting in the 7th or 8th spot. There is just no premium in today's game for slap single hitters. It's kind of like the lumbering fullback in the NFL or a Dennis Rodman rebounder in the NBA. The game has simply changed. Nobody is generally interested in a player that gets 200 hits a year with 55 RBIs, especially playing a position like 1st base and 3rd base. In today's game in his 20s Rose would have found a home with the right team. Then when he entered his 30s he would have been a utility player gradually descending to a pinch hitter and then an ESPN employee.

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Rose was a switch hitter, and is MLB's all-time leader in hits (4,256), games played (3,562), at-bats (14,053), singles (3,215) and outs (10,328)

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Originally Posted by tgull

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Originally Posted by The Boz

He had 185 hits playing in all 162 games. Hall of Famers Steve Carlton and Mike Schmidt both credited Pete with bringing leadership and a history of winning in the post season to a team that lost in the NL playoffs 3 years in a row before he arrived.

Your takes on him being a pinch hitter borders on comedic and pathetic. But let’s face it, most of your posts are jackass.

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There is no way Rose would have remained in the lineup in today's game hitting 1 homerun in 162 games, playing 3rd and 1st base mind you. Rose's legacy is he played in a ton of games, never got injured, but he never came anywhere close to getting 100 RBIs in a season let alone 20 homeruns. Yes he is the all time hit leader, but in today's game he never would have sniffied that. He was a slap hitter who benefited great from the lightning quick astro turf fields in the 70s and 80s. He would have got to 3000 hits for sure, but his career would have lasted as long as Wade Boggs in today's game, in other words shown the door in his mid 30s. Yes he is a Hall of Famer, but there is a clear reason why no baseball historian has Rose in their top 20. I mean his all time slugging percentage is .401 which by today's standards makes you a utility player. He is a Tony Gywnn, Wade Boggs, Ichiro type player. Nice player but never could carry a team.

As far as being a locker room guy, he by all accounts was a scum bag, dated 16 years olds, used amphetamines like candy and that little pesky thing about betting on your own team.

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Actually an excellent post, but I disagree. He’s not like Boggs, Gwynn and Ichiro. Those guys never won shit. He’s more like Derrick Jeter. A money player doing whatever it takes to win. His stats don’t tell the whole story.

Pete Rose hung around the Caesars Forum Shops in the 2000s. Saw him there all the time.

Apparently he was hired by the owner of the memorabilia shop to sit there, talk to people, and sign autographs. It worked, as this got people in the door, and they made a lot more sales as a result. This was mentioned in an SI article from yesterday:

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Rose used to sign autographs on Las Vegas Boulevard. Then one day it rained. The owner of a memorabilia shop at the Forum Shops at Caesars invited him to sign that day indoors at his place.

Business boomed. “And I never went back [outside],” Rose says. “Before the recession hit in 2007, 2008, I used to work at the Forum Shops 15 days a month. And I averaged $20,000 a day [in sales]. That’s $300,000 a month or $3.6 million a year. Obviously now we don’t do that, but we still do O.K.”

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Hilarious that Rose was sitting outside before that, signing autographs for money. Never knew that. But I do remember seeing him all the time in the front of that memorabilia store.

https://www.si.com/mlb/the-outsider-...with-pete-rose

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Pete Rose hung around the Caesars Forum Shops in the 2000s. Saw him there all the time.

Apparently he was hired by the owner of the memorabilia shop to sit there, talk to people, and sign autographs. It worked, as this got people in the door, and they made a lot more sales as a result. This was mentioned in an SI article from yesterday:

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Rose used to sign autographs on Las Vegas Boulevard. Then one day it rained. The owner of a memorabilia shop at the Forum Shops at Caesars invited him to sign that day indoors at his place.

Business boomed. “And I never went back [outside],” Rose says. “Before the recession hit in 2007, 2008, I used to work at the Forum Shops 15 days a month. And I averaged $20,000 a day [in sales]. That’s $300,000 a month or $3.6 million a year. Obviously now we don’t do that, but we still do O.K.”

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Hilarious that Rose was sitting outside before that, signing autographs for money. Never knew that. But I do remember seeing him all the time in the front of that memorabilia store.

https://www.si.com/mlb/the-outsider-...with-pete-rose

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Guilty of buying a ball and getting it signed by him at Forum shops years ago. He was cordial and talked for a couple minutes since I was the only customer at the time.

I’m sure it gave him something to do, make some money and feel good that so many still supported him. But it was also a daily reminder of how much he missed the game he loved so much and his banishment from it.

Still have the ball, I think it was around $75 with the case to hold it. Sure he blew the money at the book.😀

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Originally Posted by gut

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Originally Posted by big dick

PR was the Larry Bird of MLB

RIP Charlie hustle

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Horrible comparison, only made cause they are both white? Bird was a god, and I hate Boston sports.

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because they both would head first dive to get the ball or slide into a base
putting winning and their team ahead of their own body



neither were super athletic but both played above their ability due to heart and hustle


both were pretty slow compared to most in mlb and the nba

tell us about the deep state

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Fun fact: both Pete Rose and Donald Trump are in the WWE Hall of Fame.

Given the number of degen gamblers on this site or prior versions of this site, I also belieev Pete Rose should be in baseball hall of fame.

I would occasionally see Rose in the sportsbook at Caesar's Palace when I would step out of the poker room for a cigarette.

I had heard thru the grapevine that Rose lost the autograph gig and was banned from the sportsbook because he mockingly imitated the voice of a hair lipped kid brought in by his father to get Rose's autograph. Don't know how true it is, just that it was going around the poker games.