It's all greek to me.
It's all greek to me.
Doubt it. Tea leaves and real trading don't really work well.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
and like put on a trade and hold overnight?
I've heard people do that.
How long would it take for me to pass Series 7 without any formal training or education?
could it at all be possible that they settled so low because they couldn't generate any more activity, and that Facebook aquired ig they were able to grow the member ship? hence now "worth" 10b
I think IG understood that 700m in the bank over a picture sharing platform made infinitely more sense than risking implosion due to a highly predatory Facebook cloning their functionality and/or the next inevitable bubble burst.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwai
Im sure no one at MySpace thought the party would ever stop either. IG played this well. All talk of what these companies are 'worth' is pretty much the product of paid mouth pieces scooping water from the hull of the Titanic with thimbles and hubris. Now matter how hard you medicate America's teenage empire makers, they are guaranteed to get bored of your shit and move once their parents start using you.
What are you doing here if you think Twitter is going to crater? I get that you are trying to control for social media stock risk with the long exposure to FB, but selling the Twitter puts looks like a way to offset the offset the volatilty premium of the FB calls while forgoing the downsize benefit of selling (aka 'shorting') the underlying. TWTR could crater while FB is unchanged and you'd earn nothing if the positions are properly sized and the options were bought at the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by monsterjOr you could sell Twitter puts, sell the underlying, buy facebook underlying and buy facebook calls. Now if I were buying meaty ATM options, what would my delta be? What would my Vega be? Am I long or short Vega V, Delta V, Gamma? What is my VIX risk? Where would I make the most money, where would I make the least, where would i break even? What's the probabilities for each? Or am I just doing a simple pair trade?!? My guess is you can't answer any of the questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I would be short gamma by being short the puts on TWTR, I would continue to sell underlying as it moved toward the strike to hedge my delta. Making money on both the option premium and the move toward my short strike. I would hedge my overall options market risk with owning FB options(in this example it is calls, but puts would work as well) and being long gamma and hedge my acquired deltas. This trade would be much lower risk than what Salamar or any etrade junkie would do, but it requires a deep understanding of real trading, not tea leaves. To each their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumblesBadlyWhat are you doing here if you think Twitter is going to crater? I get that you are trying to control for social media stock risk with the long exposure to FB, but selling the Twitter puts looks like a way to offset the offset the volatilty premium of the FB calls while forgoing the downsize benefit of selling (aka 'shorting') the underlying. TWTR could crater while FB is unchanged and you'd earn nothing if the positions are properly sized and the options were bought at the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by monsterj
Don't play their reindeer games dwai. You are better than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwai
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Originally Posted by sonatine
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...on-user-growth
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Originally Posted by sonatine
Twitter shares fall after analyst downgrade, potential advertiser exodus
The social media company's stock plummeted in after-hours trading Thursday after Mark Mahaney, an analyst for RBC Capital Markets, downgraded it to "underperform." As Bloomberg reports, the downgrade was based on an RBC survey that revealed fewer marketing departments plan to buy advertising on Twitter next year. That troubling news is the last thing Twitter needs. The company is already facing a lawsuit from one shareholder who says Twitter execs made false and misleading statements about the social network's growth potential, thereby causing the stock to trade at artificially inflated levels.
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seriously tho it is
lol twitter stock up 20% based on rumors that its basically peddling its asshole to anyone halfway interested in acquiring.
wow.
Holy shit at Twitter volume today.
mystery solved; salesforce started a rumor the are doing some sort of takeover on twitter:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/twitter-...ort-1474636804
A tweet from the verified account of Vala Afshar, which lists his title as Salesforce’s chief digital evangelist, gave apparent reasons why someone would want to buy Twitter. It said “Why @twitter? 1 personal learning network 2 the best realtime, context rich news 3 democratize intelligence 4 great place to promote others.”
Guys buy twitter because $30 a share for salesforce stock is basically potential retirement money, and just be ready to flash sale at a small loss if the sale dies.
Google is making a lot of loud noise about buying twitter and at this point, I genuinely believe that all these rumors are desperate attempts to prop up twitter stock because once twitter crashes down, its going to be the first domino in a chain that slashes 80% of the value from the entire Silicon Valley economy.