Still waiting to hear what Obamagate was.
Trump tweeted that Lindsey Graham should subpoena Obama to testify. But what are they investigating? Nobody has said.
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Still waiting to hear what Obamagate was.
Trump tweeted that Lindsey Graham should subpoena Obama to testify. But what are they investigating? Nobody has said.
Something to do with Flynn? Really not sure. Supposedly it's in all the newspapers except one. Should be easy to find.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
Still waiting to hear what Obamagate was.
Trump tweeted that Lindsey Graham should subpoena Obama to testify. But what are they investigating? Nobody has said.
But I've looked at a bunch of news sites and I googled it, and nobody seems to know the crime Trump is accusing Obama of committing. I guess Google must be in on the conspiracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishSomething to do with Flynn? Really not sure. Supposedly it's in all the newspapers except one. Should be easy to find.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakStill waiting to hear what Obamagate was.
Trump tweeted that Lindsey Graham should subpoena Obama to testify. But what are they investigating? Nobody has said.
It's no more than a Team Retatrd smokescreen to draw attention away from the facts that:Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakStill waiting to hear what Obamagate was.
Trump tweeted that Lindsey Graham should subpoena Obama to testify. But what are they investigating? Nobody has said.
-84,000+ Americans are dead due to King Retard's inaction.
-GOP is now turning on Dr. Fauci and science because Retard.
-Barr going after the crooked GOP head of senate committee about release a report confirming that Russia interfered with election because Retard.
-Flynn, Manafort, Russian hackers getting released etx. because Retard.
GOP going hail mary in mid May is super telling.
Look for Benghazi, her emails and Seth Rich to be unearthed again soon.
the conspiracy theory is that obama weaponized the government to investigate trump during his election.
the truth is that our intelligence agencies barely scraped the surface of his cartel and half his most trusted resources went directly to jail.
no laws were broken by the investigating agencies, everything was by the book.
Well, the problem I see it is intelligence agencies playing partisan politics to investigate candidates, even through legal means, is problematic. It seems ok to you now, because the intelligence agencies are on your side and Trump is clearly a crook. But there is no guarantee intelligence agencies will continue to be on your side. In fact, it seems like a good bet they won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
I doubt you think intelligence agencies publicly investigating Biden and leaking any results of wrongdoing would be a good idea. They may have to dig a little deeper, but there is probably plenty of skeletons in that closet too. Except for rare cases like Bernie I think anyone who is in politics that long is gonna have dirt.
And a precedent of intelligence agencies and Congress digging into candidates and making public spectacle of it seems like a horrible one to have.
I think everybody knows what it is. It's very obvious to everybody, except to you. I think we all know what we're talking about, just read the papers. It was terrible and it should never be allowed to happen again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
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Originally Posted by verminaardWell, the problem I see it is intelligence agencies playing partisan politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
this is as far as i got before your words were too stupid to suffer.
if an investigative target is a criminal enterprise with hard ties to russian government / russian organized crime, and they are constantly committing perjury during interviews, its not 'partisan politics' because they belong to the party not in power.
i cant help you be smarter but i can help you be less stupid. let me help you. let anyone at all help you.
or just... stop.. posting.
Investigating violation of the law and exposing covert foreign influence in US government and elections is not playing partisan politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by verminaardWell, the problem I see it is intelligence agencies playing partisan politics to investigate candidates, even through legal means, is problematic. It seems ok to you now, because the intelligence agencies are on your side and Trump is clearly a crook. But there is no guarantee intelligence agencies will continue to be on your side. In fact, it seems like a good bet they won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
I doubt you think intelligence agencies publicly investigating Biden and leaking any results of wrongdoing would be a good idea. They may have to dig a little deeper, but there is probably plenty of skeletons in that closet too. Except for rare cases like Bernie I think anyone who is in politics that long is gonna have dirt.
And a precedent of intelligence agencies and Congress digging into candidates and making public spectacle of it seems like a horrible one to have.
Donald Trump has only two options.
1) Re-open the economy with over 1.5 million infected Americans, pandemic grows, U.S. goes bankrupt.
2) Keep lockdown going, 40 to 50 million unemployed, U.S. goes bankrupt.
Under both scenarios Trump loses the Presidency.
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You're forgetting door #3, a phased, step by step reopening done according to the advice of the experts. At each step we evaluate and see how things are going, and we put guidelines in place to reduce the chances of transmission, like masks social distancing and whatever else.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactor
There was also preparedness, but that ship has sailed.
i finally get why people are concerned trump will reject the election results if he loses.
its not because he will view it as some final grift to retain power, its because hes actually batshit enough to think the election cant possibly be valid if he loses.
But we can agree the Russia narrative is total bullshit right? You might want to look at the people who went to prison and their backgrounds before answering that.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
ROFL this is rich coming from team Hillary, who hasn't accepted the actual election in which you lost nearly 4 years agoQuote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Trigger warning:
So the CNN poll that shows Trump up 7 points in the battleground states should be alarming to Biden and Co., and apparently he also only won those same states 48-47% in 2016? Is that true? Biden will have to maintain a 4 point lead nationally to have a real chance if this is the case.
LOL, the pools are fake until they find ONE in their favor, then that is all you hear about,
......& Check that poll again, there are some interesting swing states.
And anyone buying this 'the numbers are lower' than reported BS, isn't paying attention.
Here is Trump AGAIN saying out loud what he shouldn't & look at how his mentor/puppet master is handling it.
Fox "news"/Tgull/Diamond&Silk are all is all 'oh well they were fat and had diabetes so that death shouldn't be attributed to corona'.
I would agree that those conditions didn't help, the fact is THEY WERE ALIVE w/a bad heart and diabetes, or whatever.
So maybe Corona was "just" the straw that broke the back, the fact remains corona is what killed them.
Russia registered 60% of all coronavirus deaths that happened in Moscow last month to other causes
https://www.businessinsider.com/russ...-causes-2020-5
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Originally Posted by VaughnP
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Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by verminaard
this is as far as i got before your words were too stupid to suffer.
if an investigative target is a criminal enterprise with hard ties to russian government / russian organized crime, and they are constantly committing perjury during interviews, its not 'partisan politics' because they belong to the party not in power.
i cant help you be smarter but i can help you be less stupid. let me help you. let anyone at all help you.
or just... stop.. posting.
This isn't a hill I am willing to die on. I will just say that electing a sitting president who is an unapologetic white collar criminal, whom half the people in the country and half of Congress doesn't care poses some challenges if you are involved in law and justice, and we will have to agree to disagree whether the people trying to navigate this are doing a good job in a very tough spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakInvestigating violation of the law and exposing covert foreign influence in US government and elections is not playing partisan politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by verminaard
A look back to saner times, and on one of those rare instances when Ted Cruz was frank and truthful.
https://youtu.be/BxnkfE6Y5iI