Time to get on the TRUMP train

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Originally Posted by Daly

The crazy thing about this whole situation is Schumer has supposedly said he wasn’t notified about the attack. That means the “Gang of 8” wasn’t notified. That means Trump signed off on killing or “assassinating” a member of the Iranian Govt.

That’s the most impeachable thing he’s done yet by a factor of 10, if true.

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No it's not. Id ramble on my point but its late and you're wrong even if I don't.

Ill state it simply this way...

In 230 years since written the line between the limits of a presidents ability to act has been unclear.
What is now more clear is the declaration of war, not military action.
Truman was the first to declare war before asking.
So far at LEAST 40-50+ military actions one may consider needing congress to approve have taken place since 9/11, congress did NOTHING each time.
You see, if what Trump did by ordering this MILITARY ACTION is impeachable, you have handfuls of presidents to impeach.

So cuts the leftist BS, it was a clean kill. The only issue Pelosi or Congress has with this one is Trump did it.

Goodnight folks

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Originally Posted by Daly

The crazy thing about this whole situation is Schumer has supposedly said he wasn’t notified about the attack. That means the “Gang of 8” wasn’t notified. That means Trump signed off on killing or “assassinating” a member of the Iranian Govt.

That’s the most impeachable thing he’s done yet by a factor of 10, if true.

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He had lunch with Rush Limbaugh yesterday and played a round of golf with Lindsay Graham and Trey Gawdy earlier this week so he probably just notified them instead.

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Originally Posted by Daly

The crazy thing about this whole situation is Schumer has supposedly said he wasn’t notified about the attack. That means the “Gang of 8” wasn’t notified. That means Trump signed off on killing or “assassinating” a member of the Iranian Govt.

That’s the most impeachable thing he’s done yet by a factor of 10, if true.

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It ranks up there for sure.

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Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece

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Originally Posted by Daly

The crazy thing about this whole situation is Schumer has supposedly said he wasn’t notified about the attack. That means the “Gang of 8” wasn’t notified. That means Trump signed off on killing or “assassinating” a member of the Iranian Govt.

That’s the most impeachable thing he’s done yet by a factor of 10, if true.

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No it's not. Id ramble on my point but its late and you're wrong even if I don't.

Ill state it simply this way...

In 230 years since written the line between the limits of a presidents ability to act has been unclear.
What is now more clear is the declaration of war, not military action.
Truman was the first to declare war before asking.
So far at LEAST 40-50+ military actions one may consider needing congress to approve have taken place since 9/11, congress did NOTHING each time.
You see, if what Trump did by ordering this MILITARY ACTION is impeachable, you have handfuls of presidents to impeach.

So cuts the leftist BS, it was a clean kill. The only issue Pelosi or Congress has with this one is Trump did it.

Goodnight folks

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You don't know what you're talking about. Every significant military action of every president has been approved by Congress.

Assassinating a prominent foreign figure isn't within the president's emergency war powers. It's a law passed by Congress that 8 members of Congress have to be informed that this is going to happen. House Speaker, House Minority Leader, Majority and Minority Leaders if he Senate, and Chair and Ranking Member of both the House and Semate Intelligence Committees.

some perspective;

qassem soleimani is viewed as a hero in middle east because he was instrumental in yeeting ISIS off the map.

kinda like the kurds but more so.

yall remember the kurds right? they fought isis for us and then trump let turkey ethnic cleanse them.

https://i.imgur.com/8ucK0qW.jpg

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Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece

No it's not. Id ramble on my point but its late and you're wrong even if I don't.

Ill state it simply this way...

In 230 years since written the line between the limits of a presidents ability to act has been unclear.
What is now more clear is the declaration of war, not military action.
Truman was the first to declare war before asking.
So far at LEAST 40-50+ military actions one may consider needing congress to approve have taken place since 9/11, congress did NOTHING each time.
You see, if what Trump did by ordering this MILITARY ACTION is impeachable, you have handfuls of presidents to impeach.

So cuts the leftist BS, it was a clean kill. The only issue Pelosi or Congress has with this one is Trump did it.

Goodnight folks

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You don't know what you're talking about. Every significant military action of every president has been approved by Congress.

Assassinating a prominent foreign figure isn't within the president's emergency war powers. It's a law passed by Congress that 8 members of Congress have to be informed that this is going to happen. House Speaker, House Minority Leader, Majority and Minority Leaders if he Senate, and Chair and Ranking Member of both the House and Semate Intelligence Committees.

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he also didnt warn the iraqi PM, who has announced that trump breached a long standing agreement with him about the circumstances under which we would be allowed to keep troops there:

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so we are now facing a boots on the ground hot war, in iraq, for the 4th time in my adult life, but this time we have to do it without any local allies at all except... israel.

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Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece

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Originally Posted by Daly

The crazy thing about this whole situation is Schumer has supposedly said he wasn’t notified about the attack. That means the “Gang of 8” wasn’t notified. That means Trump signed off on killing or “assassinating” a member of the Iranian Govt.

That’s the most impeachable thing he’s done yet by a factor of 10, if true.

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No it's not. Id ramble on my point but its late and you're wrong even if I don't.

Ill state it simply this way...

In 230 years since written the line between the limits of a presidents ability to act has been unclear.
What is now more clear is the declaration of war, not military action.
Truman was the first to declare war before asking.
So far at LEAST 40-50+ military actions one may consider needing congress to approve have taken place since 9/11, congress did NOTHING each time.
You see, if what Trump did by ordering this MILITARY ACTION is impeachable, you have handfuls of presidents to impeach.

So cuts the leftist BS, it was a clean kill. The only issue Pelosi or Congress has with this one is Trump did it.

Goodnight folks

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nap time is definitely in order.

hot take near term predictions:

more oil refineries mysteriously bursting into flames

hospitals shut down due to ransomware / malware

power grid disruptions

air travel disruptions

also expect russia to take advantage of this by violently expanding their influence into ukraine.

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Originally Posted by Daly

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Originally Posted by blake

if it just opened pandora's box, how is it a win?

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“General Suleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region,” the Pentagon said in a statement. “General Suleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more”

If the above is to be believed then it’s a win. Just because there may be potential repercussions doesn’t change that fact. There is also belief (spin?) that this show of force may cause Iran to ratchet things down in the region.

Time will tell.

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i don't object to trump taking action against iran if it truly was responsible for storming our embassy in iraq, but killing the #2 most powerful person in their government, which seems guaranteed fo invite similar assassinations from them in the very near future, seems like overkill.

and weird timing with the breaking news that emails confirm the DOJ basically pleaded with trump that holding back the ukraine aid was illegal.

weird, weird timing.

probably a jooincendence.

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Originally Posted by blake

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Originally Posted by Daly

“General Suleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region,” the Pentagon said in a statement. “General Suleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more”

If the above is to be believed then it’s a win. Just because there may be potential repercussions doesn’t change that fact. There is also belief (spin?) that this show of force may cause Iran to ratchet things down in the region.

Time will tell.

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i don't object to trump taking action against iran if it truly was responsible for storming our embassy in iraq, but killing the #2 most powerful person in their government, which seems guaranteed fo invite similar assassinations from them in the very near future, seems like overkill.

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its the equivalent of killing bolton or rumsfeld at the respective peaks of their careers.

also...:

“General Suleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region,”

thats called war games. every country on earth does this. what if we did this, what would happen if we did that, how would we accomplish x y z. you actively develop plans so youre ready to pivot to responses in real time.

interesting statement from Maria Zakharova, Director of the Department of Information and Press at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia:

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1. For condemning attacks on their embassies, states go to the UN Security Council with a draft presidential statement. Washington did not apply to the Security Council. So, the world reaction did not interest him. (Clarification. It turns out, it’s still more interesting. The Americans submitted a draft statement to the UN Security Council press and it is on the “default procedure” until 10 AM January 3 NY. That is, first a missile strike, and then everyone else’s opinion. Appeals on holding the meeting Sat on this issue or discussion of this topic in consultations sat in a different format to date not received)

That is, I was interested in a change in the situation in the region. By the way, over the past 5-6 years, the US has repeatedly blocked statements by the Security Council chairman condemning attacks on embassies of other countries - there are a lot of examples.

2. The key is the assessment of Iraq itself, as a state subjected to rocket fire by another state, and it is given: “Acting Prime Minister of Iraq Adel Abdel Mahdi regards an air strike at Baghdad airport, as a result of which the deputy head of the Iraqi Shiite militia was killed Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, as an act of aggression against his country "

3. In addition to the escalation of tension in the region, which will certainly hit millions of people, this will lead to nothing.

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Originally Posted by devidee

Soleimani was also responsible for defeating ISIS in Iraq and the region.

LULZ

What a shithole place with shithole people.

No white person should ever die for these sub-humans.

(((Oh, wait I know why)))

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of all the people on this forum, you would seem to be most opposed to what trump just did based on everything you've said in this thread. enough to get you off the train?

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we're in good hands, guys

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Originally Posted by blake

i don't object to trump taking action against iran if it truly was responsible for storming our embassy in iraq, but killing the #2 most powerful person in their government, which seems guaranteed fo invite similar assassinations from them in the very near future, seems like overkill.

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Seems like a good way to make your point.

San -

What do you mean by this?


What is it like in Hell, Harry Truman?

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Originally Posted by Sanlmar

TSLA 35%

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and up about another 4% since you typed that.

devidee: Trump has been the greatest President Israel has ever had


off the train? say it.... say it...,,,,

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Originally Posted by blake

devidee: Trump has been the greatest President Israel has ever had


off the train? say it.... say it...,,,,

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I’ve stated in this thread many times Trump is a joo puppet.

Kushner is a Mossad agent.

(((fucking Mossad)))

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Originally Posted by devidee

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Originally Posted by blake

devidee: Trump has been the greatest President Israel has ever had


off the train? say it.... say it...,,,,

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I’ve stated in this thread many times Trump is a joo puppet.

Kushner is a Mossad agent.

(((fucking Mossad)))

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well how bout that. would you vote for biden? i assume you're a tulsi fan