Washington DC - First openly retarded elected president exposed as pedo by newly released Epstein emails

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Originally Posted by Kalam

You have a pretty impressive memory, so of anyone you should probably recall in the old forum I literally had a thread devoted to complaining about the media. And everyone else basically shit on me for it. I dont know if I ever addressed Tucker specifically, but I was not a fan of him or anyone else in the MSM before his pivot to whatever he is now.

And as I said he has completely reinvented himself. Before being kicked off Fox News he wasn't particularly distinguishable than any other right wing personality. And he was as anti-Trump as anyone before Trump took over the party. Before that he was on CNN, and wasn't even particularly right wing, and wasn't distinguishable from anyone else really.

You seem to think it is some sort of gotcha that I am complaining about someone now, AFTER they completely reinvented themselves; when I wasn't directly complaining about them when they were a completely different person.

And the irony of course is that my forum persona was literally complaining about the media in the old forum. Like if you asked someone 10 years ago what I posted about, that is what they would say because that was well over 50% of my posts.

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I vaguely remember you bitching about the MSM like all right wingers did. I remember the Jordan Petersen love as I was unfamiliar with him.

You just always pretended you weren’t a right winger. A guy who only ever seemed to go at left wing guys while saying you were independent.

Tucker was bitching about the MSM while being on it. Bitching about the MSM was just typical right wing every day talk. You won. Now you have a bunch of people on X who are vastly more influential than anyone on MSM.

We both know I can’t search what you used to post because Druff demonstrated why Trump should have hired him to bury these Epstein files after the work he put in for you. If Trump hired Druff, he wouldn’t have these Epstein problems.

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I dont know what you can or cannot search. And dont care all that much. I am not hiding anything.

I would say the Overton window on the right has shifted so much that I am in the same place, but it is nowhere near as right wing as it was perceived at the time. And I would not even really call Tucker right wing anymore. Just this weird synthesis of antisemitic, populist, isolationist, conspiritard Christian nationalist. All he does is criticize the right and promote nations/leaders that oppose the US, many of whom you would code left (Iran, Venezuela off the top of my head).

Maybe you think the future of American should be antisemitic populist isolationism and chasing low IQ conspiracy theories like 9/11, elite satanic pedophile rings and chemtrails. If so, this version of Tucker seems to be your guy.

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Originally Posted by Kalam

FWIW, I still enjoy Peterson. I subscribe to his Daily Wire podcast and listen. He is on a mental health break right now, but if/when he comes back I will continue listening.

He had and still has lots of interesting ideas and insights, but has also been very upfront the whole time he has mental health issues he has had his whole life. Ironically, he says it is because his psychologic profile is very feminine and emotional.

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Aren’t you troubled by his constant Putin cheerleading? Him ending up as a guest of the Russians? I thought foreign influence bothered you. I thought it was suspicious to you Tucker morphed from his old persona to sounding exactly like Jordan Peterson in his praise of Putin.

With one key difference. Jordan is very pro-Israel. Tucker is no longer. They agree with like 97% of other things.

I like you, but trying to act like you’re not up in your feelings strictly because these people turned on Israel is silly when you’re very transparent to anyone here who paid attention.

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I dont recall Peterson being much of a Putin cheerleader. He is a pretty big Russiaphobe, independent of Putin. His favorite book is the Gulag Archipelago, the author of whom was very antisemetic, and Peterson himself was accused of being antisemitic for this and other reasons, regardless of his views on Israel.

I am ok being generally aligned with people who are viewed as antisemitic, if they bring other things to the table I generally agree with. And the argument itself is reasonable. And I have no problem engaging antisemitism and arguing with it on its terms. In the old forum, I was one of the few people that watched the videos and engaged with FPS_Russia in his antisemitism thread.

Like I said, you have this weird perception of me as this single issue giant Israel/Jewish supporter to the point it seems you are confusing me with someone esle.

The whole time I was a "right winger" complaining about the MSM the MSM itself was controlled by left wing Jews, and the people I was supporting were often accused of being antisemites.

But Tucker brings nothing to the table I view as good for the country; and IMO is a much bigger malevolent, toxic influence than you seem to believe.

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Originally Posted by Kalam

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Originally Posted by BCR

I vaguely remember you bitching about the MSM like all right wingers did. I remember the Jordan Petersen love as I was unfamiliar with him.

You just always pretended you weren’t a right winger. A guy who only ever seemed to go at left wing guys while saying you were independent.

Tucker was bitching about the MSM while being on it. Bitching about the MSM was just typical right wing every day talk. You won. Now you have a bunch of people on X who are vastly more influential than anyone on MSM.

We both know I can’t search what you used to post because Druff demonstrated why Trump should have hired him to bury these Epstein files after the work he put in for you. If Trump hired Druff, he wouldn’t have these Epstein problems.

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I dont know what you can or cannot search. And dont care all that much. I am not hiding anything.

I would say the Overton window on the right has shifted so much that I am in the same place, but it is nowhere near as right wing as it was perceived at the time. And I would not even really call Tucker right wing anymore. Just this weird synthesis of antisemitic, populist, isolationist, conspiritard Christian nationalist. All he does is criticize the right and promote nations/leaders that oppose the US, many of whom you would code left (Iran, Venezuela off the top of my head).

Maybe you think the future of American should be antisemitic populist isolationism and chasing low IQ conspiracy theories like 9/11 and chemtrails. If so, this version of Tucker seems to be your guy.

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I don’t. I always hated all these fucking people. I wanted to punch Tucker in the face when I was probably 23-25? Whenever he wore that bow tie on my TV everyday. He was the face of every neocon trust fund frat boy idiot I’d ever known. We are the same age pretty much.

But here we are back again at the right making this bed. You don’t want to label him as right, but they’re all calling him far right now. And despite seeing more of him now than before, he makes more sense now than he did when he was cheerleading Iraq.

Like I don’t like him or trust him, he’s still an idiot, but you say I am not addressing his shift when this whole exchange started with you linking a video where he doesn’t state a single lie. What he’s saying now is far less dangerous than cheerleading a war that bankrupted us and was the biggest American failure post-Vietnam.

So while he’s annoying then or now, he’s more palatable now as he isn’t trying to drag us into a war spouting neocon bullshit. Isolationism isn’t the answer, but it’s what anyone who voted for Trump pulled the lever for. Tarriffs, ending NATO, that’s all isolationist shit he ran on.

Isolationism isn’t ideal when you’re isolating with a country full of morons who are generally lazy, but it’s still better than constant war that achieves actually zero objectives and leaves a situation worse than we found it.

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Originally Posted by BCR

We both know I can’t search what you used to post because Druff demonstrated why Trump should have hired him to bury these Epstein files after the work he put in for you. If Trump hired Druff, he wouldn’t have these Epstein problems.

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Not sure what this is supposed to mean?

I haven't suppressed anything with the search function here. It works the same way it did when I first installed the software almost 14 years ago, with the two exceptions:

- I added a way for 3-letter words to be searched (good for things like acronyms), which didn't previously exist.

- I made it so you have to be logged in to search. This is because bots were hammering the search option for some reason, and it was bogging down the system.


You should have the identical search capability you had here in 2012.

If you can provide me an example where search is failing, I'll look into it and fix it.

If you're referring to Kalam's name change, his old posts will show up as if he made them under the Kalam name. And if you want to search for mentions of his old name, just search for that name as a search term (not an account) and it will show up.

Not sure why you think I've restricted search.

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Originally Posted by Kalam

I dont know what you can or cannot search. And dont care all that much. I am not hiding anything.

I would say the Overton window on the right has shifted so much that I am in the same place, but it is nowhere near as right wing as it was perceived at the time. And I would not even really call Tucker right wing anymore. Just this weird synthesis of antisemitic, populist, isolationist, conspiritard Christian nationalist. All he does is criticize the right and promote nations/leaders that oppose the US, many of whom you would code left (Iran, Venezuela off the top of my head).

Maybe you think the future of American should be antisemitic populist isolationism and chasing low IQ conspiracy theories like 9/11 and chemtrails. If so, this version of Tucker seems to be your guy.

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I don’t. I always hated all these fucking people. I wanted to punch Tucker in the face when I was probably 23-25? Whenever he wore that bow tie on my TV everyday. He was the face of every neocon trust fund frat boy idiot I’d ever known. We are the same age pretty much.

But here we are back again at the right making this bed. You don’t want to label him as right, but they’re all calling him far right now. And despite seeing more of him now than before, he makes more sense now than he did when he was cheerleading Iraq.

Like I don’t like him or trust him, he’s still an idiot, but you say I am not addressing his shift when this whole exchange started with you linking a video where he doesn’t state a single lie. What he’s saying now is far less dangerous than cheerleading a war that bankrupted us and was the biggest American failure post-Vietnam.

So while he’s annoying then or now, he’s more palatable now as he isn’t trying to drag us into a war spouting neocon bullshit. Isolationism isn’t the answer, but it’s what anyone who voted for Trump pulled the lever for. Tarriffs, ending NATO, that’s all isolationist shit he ran on.

Isolationism isn’t ideal when you’re isolating with a country full of morons who are generally lazy, but it’s still better than constant war that achieves actually zero objectives and leaves a situation worse than we found it.

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I didn't vote for Trump and never supported his takeover of the Republican Party. And even if I did, I think it would be ok to say, "Yeah, leftism sucks, but this version of rightism sucks just as bad." If I voted for Trump I would apologize and say you were right.

As San has noted many times, the schism between me and someone like him is I generally support neoliberalism and the American economic empire, (including but not limited to the Israel outpost) where he leans more towards isolationism and dismantling the empire. And ironically because Trump basically acts like a neocon, even though he ran as something else, that may be why I have less of a problem with him than San does; at least when it comes to foreign policy.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

If you're referring to Kalam's name change, his old posts will show up as if he made them under the Kalam name. And if you want to search for mentions of his old name, just search for that name as a search term (not an account) and it will show up.

Not sure why you think I've restricted search.

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I was being doxxed by someone who no longer posts or lurks here AFAIK. I would prefer to let sleeping dogs lie not to dig up old screen names.

I am not contesting I spent years complaining about the MSM and now complain about Tucker Carlson and populist right media just as vigorously. I dont even contest this version of right wing media is worse in many ways than the MSM ever was. I just dont see this as me being hypocritical in the way BCR seems too.

Regarding Tucker...

I was not a Fox News viewer. I would sometimes flip by it and leave it on for a few minutes, but for the most part I didn't watch. Sometimes I'd run into Tucker's show and leave it on for a bit. For the most part I liked it, at least pre-2020 election. His points seemed to be reasonable, and he didn't come off as the extremist his critics claimed he was.

When Fox News went full retard regarding the 2020 election, I especially tuned them out. I realize they were just giving their viewers what they wanted, but it still was shitty.

I know Tucker went along with this, but I chalked it up to him feeling he had to toe the company line. I lost some respect for him for it, but was cautiously optimistic when he separated from them, which I felt likely had to do with exactly this.

However, his solo work has been a fail, and this dates way before the Israel stuff. His Putin interview was so terrible that I couldn't get through it. He let Putin just rant about Russian history, and answer nothing. I realize that if he offended Putin too much, Putin could just get up and leave mid-interview, but that would have been preferable to the debacle that was presented. From there, he seemed to get increasingly extreme, conspiratorial, and anit-Semitic.

This isn't just a case of my turning on him because he bashes the Jews now. When I heard so much criticism of him in the 2010s, I watched closely, looking to find what his critics were talking about. I wasn't seeing it. His takes seemed mainstream conservative. He approached things mostly honestly, especially considering he was on a very partisan channel. But it seems this guy just blows with whatever wind he hopes will help his career/notoriety, and at the moment that wind is hating Jews.

What I saw in the 2010s was phony, and what you're seeing today is probably phony as well.

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Talking about yourself?

If you keep changing the words in my posts I will do the same to you, snitch.

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mickeyrimmjob wants to get up from the kiddie table.

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wittle telly got a boo boo. ran crying to his momma

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Originally Posted by Kalam

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

If you're referring to Kalam's name change, his old posts will show up as if he made them under the Kalam name. And if you want to search for mentions of his old name, just search for that name as a search term (not an account) and it will show up.

Not sure why you think I've restricted search.

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I was being doxxed by someone who no longer posts or lurks here AFAIK. I would prefer to let sleeping dogs lie not to dig up old screen names.

I am not contesting I spent years complaining about the MSM and now complain about Tucker Carlson and populist right media just as vigorously. I dont even contest this version of right wing media is worse in many ways than the MSM ever was. I just dont see this as me being hypocritical in the way BCR seems too.

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Druff can delete that whole exchange as far as I’m concerned even though it’s an open secret.

I very much wasn’t trying to play dirty then or now. When I first noticed it years ago and jokingly called you by a name and then realized that name no longer existed, I deleted my post and actually PM’d others here who quoted me to please do the same as there had to be a good reason. I was actually thinking more you might be getting a divorce and wanted to disappear the sports betting stuff. And druff can delete this post also and I won’t be offended. I’m never about fucking someone’s life up but you have been referred to so much by that old name that I made a bad joke

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Originally Posted by BCR

Listen you’re going to have to link me to your scathing critiques of Tucker before he started hammering Jews. Like I recall many of us seeing this “free speech” argument failing badly when 70% of the population are stone cold idiots. Like freedom to speak freely is different than just spouting misinformation all day because “free speech.”

But like we were shouted down here when we’d point that out.

Our fearless leader at the time:

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The free market should dictate whether someone stays on the air. If people want to watch Tucker, and a broadcast platform wants to carry him, then he should be able to be heard.

If he spreads misinformation, that same free speech and accessibility to the masses can be used to call him out.

Misinformation is always a side effect of free speech. There is no such thing as a perfect world where you have free speech only for those telling the truth, and suppression of untruths. Free speech doesn't work that way, especially since the concepts of "truth" and "misinformation" are often manipulated for poltiical reasons. A good example was the suppressed Hunter Biden story, which at this point looks like it was mostly true, yet big social media (and the mainstream media) conspired to suppress the story.

Anything gained by suppressing misinformation is unfortunately countered by a much greater loss of freedom, due to other censorship made under false pretenses. Therefore, it was discovered long before we were born that free speech can only truly exist if everyone is allowed a platform, even if some of that speech ends up being untrue or causing problems.

The "fire in a crowded theater" example doesn't apply here, because that doesn't apply to ideology. There is no ideology there -- only a desire to cause harm based upon intentionally false information. Here you're asking for a political analyst to be censored because he makes untrue statements

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Well the free market is speaking and your side of the fence is getting their head caved in so badly it’s like you bet on them.

So this months long tantrum, the one you’re having where you’re calling the same people peasant brains who said this misinformation shit is going to be a problem in a country full of idiots, is kind of laughable. No shit.

Ben Shapiro and Levin are crying every day for cancellation now that the Jews are the main discussion. Yeah fuck that. You made this bed supporting idiots

What did he say wrong there? Didn’t that bitch say all that idiotic stuff and now says there was nothing there?

He lies plenty. If you’re going to whine at least pick a video where he’s lying.

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I stand by everything I said in the quote above.

I don't believe Tucker should be censored. I don't believe Nick Fuentes or Candace Owens should be censored, either.

But I am not seeing Ben Shapiro calling for censorship.

These people should definitely be allowed to speak. However, Shapiro's point -- with which I agree -- is that they should not be taken seriously in conservative spaces, and their bullshit shouldn't be welcomed into the GOP in "agree to disagree" sort of fashion.

The response from the mainline GOP should be, "You're crazy, conspiratorial, and bigoted.... get the fuck outta here. We don't support that."

There are voices on the right who insist that we all have to get along within our party, and it's some kind of sin for right wingers to attack other right wingers. That's bullshit. In fact, that sort of thinking is what has led the left to be taken over by radicals. Imagine if Democratic leaders had stood up to The Squad and other nutjobs, and pushed back on all of the trans insanity, defund the police, non-charging of theft under $900, removal of parental rights in school, cashless bail, DEI, etc. Trump probably wouldn't be President right now.

If the right embraces the shit being pushed by the conspiratards, it's game over. You think the 2025 election was bad for the GOP? The midterms will be an absolute bloodbath if they go that direction.

I'm also a bit confused about Kalam and what he wants regarding the old name.

In general, I try to help users here when they want to change names or remove some old post which might be causing them problems in real life.

For example, if I get a PM saying, "Hey Druff, I'm going through a divorce, my ex is having her lawyers go through this site, can you change my screen name so it's harder to search?", I'll usually say yes.

I'm not going to help someone evade law enforcement, nor will I help someone trying to avoid facing the music for scamming, but I don't want someone's posts about a degenerate weekend in Vegas to fuck up their divorce proceedings.

And when it's a name change request in order to push away some stalker, I try to help with that as well. As you guys have seen, I've had my share of stalkers here just for running PFA.

However, I had thought for a long time that Kalam's name change was a secret. Then he seemed okay with people referring to him under his old name, at which point I figured it was no longer a secret.

Now it's a secret again?

I don't quite undersatnd.

Anyway, Kalam, notice I didn't actually post the old screen name. That's up to you to share if you want.

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Originally Posted by BCR

Listen you’re going to have to link me to your scathing critiques of Tucker before he started hammering Jews. Like I recall many of us seeing this “free speech” argument failing badly when 70% of the population are stone cold idiots. Like freedom to speak freely is different than just spouting misinformation all day because “free speech.”

But like we were shouted down here when we’d point that out.

Our fearless leader at the time:




Well the free market is speaking and your side of the fence is getting their head caved in so badly it’s like you bet on them.

So this months long tantrum, the one you’re having where you’re calling the same people peasant brains who said this misinformation shit is going to be a problem in a country full of idiots, is kind of laughable. No shit.

Ben Shapiro and Levin are crying every day for cancellation now that the Jews are the main discussion. Yeah fuck that. You made this bed supporting idiots

What did he say wrong there? Didn’t that bitch say all that idiotic stuff and now says there was nothing there?

He lies plenty. If you’re going to whine at least pick a video where he’s lying.

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I stand by everything I said in the quote above.

I don't believe Tucker should be censored. I don't believe Nick Fuentes or Candace Owens should be censored, either.

But I am not seeing Ben Shapiro calling for censorship.

These people should definitely be allowed to speak. However, Shapiro's point -- with which I agree -- is that they should not be taken seriously in conservative spaces, and their bullshit shouldn't be welcomed into the GOP in "agree to disagree" sort of fashion.

The response from the mainline GOP should be, "You're crazy, conspiratorial, and bigoted.... get the fuck outta here. We don't support that."

There are voices on the right who insist that we all have to get along within our party, and it's some kind of sin for right wingers to attack other right wingers. That's bullshit. In fact, that sort of thinking is what has led the left to be taken over by radicals. Imagine if Democratic leaders had stood up to The Squad and other nutjobs, and pushed back on all of the trans insanity, defund the police, non-charging of theft under $900, removal of parental rights in school, cashless bail, DEI, etc. Trump probably wouldn't be President right now.

If the right embraces the shit being pushed by the conspiratards, it's game over. You think the 2025 election was bad for the GOP? The midterms will be an absolute bloodbath if they go that direction.

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I think you always overestimate how many of you are left in the GOP and think you are mainstream and they’re the niche and this is all some internet sensation. It’s not. As someone who lives among the new coalition which allowed the GOP to remain relevant when facing a certain demographic death because Trump is such a one off star, it is not pretty to be generally pro-Israel right now.

At all.

Like I’m quite certain one could forge a coalition of America First largely MAGA platforms minus support for Israel and grab enough of the left also to win. I have zero doubt actually given there isn’t a single star on the left that warrants any attention in this new reality Trump has created of political infotainment where we need the drama.

But a Shapiroesque/Levin call to return to what’s just really neocon foreign policy gets fucking killed. Trump right now is acting like a neocon while pretending to be MAGA. Most people see right through that.

I have been laughing at Mickeys confusion where he doesn’t even know the players on the team right now.

He’s pro-Trump, Tucker, and Candace not realizing that’s a laughable position.

He thinks MIGA, as described by that group, doesn’t include Trump

Unfortunately for you most people aren’t that confused.

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I'm also a bit confused about Kalam and what he wants regarding the old name.

In general, I try to help users here when they want to change names or remove some old post which might be causing them problems in real life.

For example, if I get a PM saying, "Hey Druff, I'm going through a divorce, my ex is having her lawyers go through this site, can you change my screen name so it's harder to search?", I'll usually say yes.

I'm not going to help someone evade law enforcement, nor will I help someone trying to avoid facing the music for scamming, but I don't want someone's posts about a degenerate weekend in Vegas to fuck up their divorce proceedings.

And when it's a name change request in order to push away some stalker, I try to help with that as well. As you guys have seen, I've had my share of stalkers here just for running PFA.

However, I had thought for a long time that Kalam's name change was a secret. Then he seemed okay with people referring to him under his old name, at which point I figured it was no longer a secret.

Now it's a secret again?

I don't quite undersatnd.

Anyway, Kalam, notice I didn't actually post the old screen name. That's up to you to share if you want.

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I think he’d prefer to keep it secret even though he has such a unique style that’s it’s impossible to hide for more than a dozen posts years ago when he changed. He just changed his name, not his interests or style of writing. Now I feel bad even though his old name was a few posts before. Just shitcan the whole string there as we disagree but I like the kid and always have

I have no desire to see him leave because I appreciate his devils advocate style and the banter even if he makes me feel like punching shit sometimes. I’m sure it’s mutual. When the desire to make a Trump deleting shit joke goes wrong

if its a prob i will quit using it. i realized who he was long ago after he reappeared in the wagering thread. that shit is gold and only leads to one person, new moniker notwithstanding.



edit - maybe BCR first mentioned it. i don't want to take his fire. if so, apologies.

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Originally Posted by Kalam

As San has noted many times, the schism between me and someone like him is I generally support neoliberalism and the American economic empire, (including but not limited to the Israel outpost) where he leans more towards isolationism and dismantling the empire. And ironically because Trump basically acts like a neocon, even though he ran as something else, that may be why I have less of a problem with him than San does; at least when it comes to foreign policy.

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I don’t think dismantling the empire is my desire at all. America IS doing a fine job of that regardless. That’s the observation of the EoT.

Perhaps you mean American Imperialism.

As a libertarian I am reflexively opposed to state power and militarism (although profiting from this fail American value is a core investing principal. If a dollar is lying on the sidewalk I’ll take it.). I’ll help you dismantle the current political system too.

Kalam has both style and is an excellent contributor and holds a place in my inner circle though we disagree on most everything.

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I'm also a bit confused about Kalam and what he wants regarding the old name.

In general, I try to help users here when they want to change names or remove some old post which might be causing them problems in real life.

For example, if I get a PM saying, "Hey Druff, I'm going through a divorce, my ex is having her lawyers go through this site, can you change my screen name so it's harder to search?", I'll usually say yes.

I'm not going to help someone evade law enforcement, nor will I help someone trying to avoid facing the music for scamming, but I don't want someone's posts about a degenerate weekend in Vegas to fuck up their divorce proceedings.

And when it's a name change request in order to push away some stalker, I try to help with that as well. As you guys have seen, I've had my share of stalkers here just for running PFA.

However, I had thought for a long time that Kalam's name change was a secret. Then he seemed okay with people referring to him under his old name, at which point I figured it was no longer a secret.

Now it's a secret again?

I don't quite undersatnd.

Anyway, Kalam, notice I didn't actually post the old screen name. That's up to you to share if you want.

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I am not making any request from you. It’s all good. I was requesting we not start a segue on old screen names. And BCR understood and everything seems fine.

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Originally Posted by Kalam

As San has noted many times, the schism between me and someone like him is I generally support neoliberalism and the American economic empire, (including but not limited to the Israel outpost) where he leans more towards isolationism and dismantling the empire. And ironically because Trump basically acts like a neocon, even though he ran as something else, that may be why I have less of a problem with him than San does; at least when it comes to foreign policy.

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I don’t think dismantling the empire is my desire at all. America IS doing a fine job of that regardless. That’s the observation of the EoT.

Perhaps you mean American Imperialism.

As a libertarian I am reflexively opposed to state power and militarism (although profiting from this fail American value is a core investing principal. If a dollar is lying on the sidewalk I’ll take it.). I’ll help you dismantle the current political system too.

Kalam has both style and is an excellent contributor and holds a place in my inner circle though we disagree on most everything.

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I think Tucker style anti-imperialism is going to make things a lot worse. Regardless of principles, i think pragmatically we have to just finish this round strong and win it and then maybe pivot as the fight moves on.

And Trump is doing a pretty good job. Russian and Iran influence is on the decline (outside of Africa) and the Sunni nations and Israel are as strong an allies as ever.

I think it would be a giant mistake to turn on Israel now and ease the pressure on Iran. And I suspect people like Tucker are working for Iran to facilitate this, against American interests.

And when I say Iran I mean the IRI. I really think the IRI needs to fall and be replaced by something better. But I don’t have a great idea how we get there.

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Originally Posted by Sanlmar

I don’t think dismantling the empire is my desire at all. America IS doing a fine job of that regardless. That’s the observation of the EoT.

Perhaps you mean American Imperialism.

As a libertarian I am reflexively opposed to state power and militarism (although profiting from this fail American value is a core investing principal. If a dollar is lying on the sidewalk I’ll take it.). I’ll help you dismantle the current political system too.

Kalam has both style and is an excellent contributor and holds a place in my inner circle though we disagree on most everything.

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I think Tucker style anti-imperialism is going to make things a lot worse. Regardless of principles, i think pragmatically we have to just finish this round strong and win it and then maybe pivot as the fight moves on.

And Trump is doing a pretty good job. Russian and Iran influence is on the decline (outside of Africa) and the Sunni nations and Israel are as strong an allies as ever.

I think it would be a giant mistake to turn on Israel now and ease the pressure on Iran. And I suspect people like Tucker are working for Iran to facilitate this, against American interests.

And when I say Iran I mean the IRI. I really think the IRI needs to fall and be replaced by something better. But I don’t have a great idea how we get there.

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I don’t follow Tucker much recently. He strikes me as a weathervane. He’s trying to appeal to the hip crowd like me atm. I get it. He’s political entertainment and that’s a great business today.

I don’t have enough time for that

You must be groovin on the Qatar Trump thing now. Love the word “patrimonial”. Trump’s patrimonial leadership is certainly one approach. F-45’s to be used against ______? A buck is a buck.

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I think Tucker style anti-imperialism is going to make things a lot worse. Regardless of principles, i think pragmatically we have to just finish this round strong and win it and then maybe pivot as the fight moves on.

And Trump is doing a pretty good job. Russian and Iran influence is on the decline (outside of Africa) and the Sunni nations and Israel are as strong an allies as ever.

I think it would be a giant mistake to turn on Israel now and ease the pressure on Iran. And I suspect people like Tucker are working for Iran to facilitate this, against American interests.

And when I say Iran I mean the IRI. I really think the IRI needs to fall and be replaced by something better. But I don’t have a great idea how we get there.

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I don’t follow Tucker much recently. He strikes me as a weathervane. He’s trying to appeal to the hip crowd like me atm. I get it. He’s political entertainment and that’s a great business today.

I don’t have enough time for that

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He has a lot of influence in the party. Neither Trump or Kirk will reproach him, no matter how much he attacks them. He interviews antagonistic heads of state and lets them attack the US and push lies with no pushback at all. He was a keynote speaker at the Kirk memorial, which was really just a Republican Party political rally, where he mostly attacked Jews.

His son is on Vance’s media team.

Candace is entertainment. Tucker goes way beyond this IMO and should be treated more seriously.

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His (Tucker) son is on Vance’s media team.

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You just made my day.

I’m gonna have fun diving into this.