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Splitthis doesn’t have a head of any body parts. Don’t you know that 90% of the posts here are Sonatine dupes? Until she actually posts a pic, assume she is as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
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Originally Posted by splitthis
honest question tine, how horrified are you at seeing what is actually in splitthis' head?
Wait Splithis is a Sonatine dupe? I have not seen anything this shocking since 2008 when Tyde called out cmoney for being the real Michael Bubble.Quote:
Originally Posted by JayjamiSplitthis doesn’t have a head of any body parts. Don’t you know that 90% of the posts here are Sonatine dupes? Until she actually posts a pic, assume she is as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by blake
With states opening back up there will be a 3-4 week lag before deaths start going back up. If deaths are still going down in mid June then you would have a good argument. The current death rate on the downtrend is an argument that the lockdown is working. Also, isn’t it well documented that the death numbers coming out of the weekend have always been low because of reporting delays?Quote:
Originally Posted by tgull
Is anyone stupid enough to believe that the economy is not Trump's fault?
Is anyone stupid enough to believe that these coronavirus deaths are not Trump's fault?
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Musk should be treated like anyone else who breaks the law.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthis
If Obama had done this he would be called a stubborn uppity n-word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
None of those things is contagious. Unfathomable that a "nurse" doesn't realize this.Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthis
If he didn't want that to happen he shouldn't have run for president, and now that he is president if he wants it to happen less he should try to live in reality rather than fascist fantasy land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
He said yesterday we have won the battle over coronavirus. Yet also just yesterday the White House put in place an order for everyone but Trump to wear a mask. This is like W saying "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq when in reality the quagmire was just beginning.
yeah poor trump aka the guy who less than 24 hours after being sworn in, stood at a podium and called a room full of professional journalists 'fake news'.
who could imagine there would be consequences.
Nobody questioned anything Obama ever did, especially the liberal MSMQuote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakIf Obama had done this he would be called a stubborn uppity n-word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
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Originally Posted by dwaiNobody questioned anything Obama ever did, especially the liberal MSMQuote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
BuT mEdIaQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Trump hosts these needless press conferences to fuel his malignant narcissism, theres no other reason.
It's the media's fault for attending and asking him questions? Their fault that he has lied about everything throughout?
It's their fault that your party enabled this incompetent lunatic who is largely responsible for how bad things have gotten?
I thought you had shifted to being a silent member of Team Retard after we didn't get your spin on his disinfectant/sunlight remarks.
Guess not.
Article is a bit stale but it's for all the wackos in this thread thinking the number of deaths due to COVID are being over counted.
https://www.businessinsider.com/yale...9-count-2020-4
The US experienced 15,400 'excess deaths' from March to April 4 compared with last year, suggesting coronavirus death toll is higher than known
At least 54,000 people in the US have died as a direct result of the coronavirus, but a new study suggests that the true number of deaths caused by the disease is far greater than the official statistics suggest.
In an analysis conducted for The Washington Post, a research team led by the Yale School of Public Health found that the US experienced 15,400 "excess deaths" from March through April 4 compared to the year before.
"Excess deaths" is the number of extra deaths in a given period compared to a historical average, from any cause.
This, the Post noted, came at a time when traffic fatalities were in steep decline due to stay-at-home orders.
Over the same period, there were also 8,128 confirmed deaths from COVID-19.
As The Post reported, this does not mean all 15,000-plus deaths are directly attributable to the virus — an assertion that would be impossible to verify in the absence of a more robust testing regime.
The number, reliant on figures released April 24 by the National Center for Health Statistics, is instead an estimate based on "how many people probably would have died absent the pandemic," subtracted from the number of people who actually did.
The Post's analysis of the US came shortly after the Financial Times conducted a similar exercise with figures from health authorities all over the world. They reached a similar conclusion — that deaths linked to the pandemic have been significantly under-counted in nations from Italy to Ecuador.
In some US states, by the excess deaths measure, total deaths are actually lower than before. In Louisiana, for example, 408 people died of COVID-19 by April 4, making it one of the worst-hit areas of the country. Still, it had "slightly fewer deaths overall than normal," The Post reported.
But that could be due to a lag in reporting numbers. New Orleans Health Director Jennifer Avegno, citing a spike in paramedics reporting deaths and cardiac arrest — up 24% from the year before — said the COVID-19 death toll is likely 15% higher than officially acknowledged, according to emails obtained by Columbia University's Brown Institute for Media Innovation.
She told The Post that undercounting deaths could lead officials to enact bad public policy. "They may think the number of cases is more limited," Avegno said, "but they are not testing widely enough to know."
Little over 1,500 deaths today, most in states you guessed it, states run by left wing Governors with nursing home dereliction.
The Trump mitigation strategy has defeated the virus for most states. CNN is going to get really pissed off come the summer when there are less daily Covid-19 deaths than AIDS. Which is like 5 a month.
What a totally overblown pile of shit. At least Trump will be reelected in all this. And that Fauci guy is a fucking douche.
Last week was the worst week for rural America by a decent marginQuote:
Originally Posted by tgull
History is going to remember opening back up as one of the moronic moves of all time. Weekend was down. Even Tuesday will likely be under 2k barring some last few hour reporting of deaths.
This will legit be studied in a classroom some day. They’ll look at the historical data and wonder wtf did they open up when another month or six weeks would have bought them real significant time? They had just started to get results.
Reminds me of the scene from Tiranic when they wonder wtf was wrong with the captain moving so quickly when an iceberg was likely. Same reason as opening the country now. Pressure from business and investors. They wanted headlines about the speed of the voyage. They got headlines. The rest of the world will have this under control and barring flights from us in a month.
Trump is touting vaccines in the fall when he should be pushing it will take many years to develop vaccines if he wants to open. That’s the only argument for opening now.
If they actually develop a vaccine that’s even somewhat effective in the fall, the decision was more idiotic.
If you were actually cheering for the virus to alter the election and wanted Trump defeated, opening is your best case scenario. Six more weeks he likely buys himself six months to get back to worst numbers and that carries him through the election. I’d be cheering his decision if I hated him enough to wish this get worse and him lose.
Opening now brings him back in a month and grows much higher. Fucking twilight zone how that’s not obvious. He better be full of shit and hope vaccines are years away. Let’s get it over with is the only argument for opening.
Half the deaths are nursing homes. They were on death's door anyway. The remaining 50%, like 75% were ticking time bombs who were/are morbidly obese or 500 diabetic scores. That leaves a few here and there and that is bad luck. WTF you want to do, I get you despise Trump and want him to lose no matter what, but your team is going down the wrong path on this one. Obsessing about deaths is not going to play well, especially since Joe Biden looks like something from Weekend at Bernie's.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCRLast week was the worst week for rural America by a decent marginQuote:
Originally Posted by tgull
History is going to remember opening back up as one of the moronic moves of all time. Weekend was down. Even Tuesday will likely be under 2k barring some last few hour reporting of deaths.
This will legit be studied in a classroom some day. They’ll look at the historical data and wonder wtf did they open up when another month or six weeks would have bought them real significant time? They had just started to get results.
Reminds me of the scene from Tiranic when they wonder wtf was wrong with the captain moving so quickly when an iceberg was likely. Same reason as opening the country now. Pressure from business and investors. They wanted headlines about the speed of the voyage. They got headlines. The rest of the world will have this under control and barring flights from us in a month.
Trump is touting vaccines in the fall when he should be pushing it will take many years to develop vaccines if he wants to open. That’s the only argument for opening now.
If they actually develop a vaccine that’s even somewhat effective in the fall, the decision was more idiotic.
If you were actually cheering for the virus to alter the election and wanted Trump defeated, opening is your best case scenario. Six more weeks he likely buys himself six months to get back to worst numbers and that carries him through the election. I’d be cheering his decision if I hated him enough to wish this get worse and him lose.
Opening now brings him back in a month and grows much higher. Fucking twilight zone how that’s not obvious. He better be full of shit and hope vaccines are years away. Let’s get it over with is the only argument for opening.
It’s a vote for Trump or against Trump. Biden is a corpse as you say. With deaths at 200 day in a month, everyone is ready to open. We likely had that in Feb that they weren’t counting.
No need to argue. We will revisit in a month. If it’s better and economy better, good choice. If it’s 4K a day and economy sinking, that will be obvious also.
It's a binary choice, plain and simple. People think Trump is running against 1,000 candidates. No, he is running against Biden who really is terrible. Now Trump could get sick, and Biden could as well. Both are in their 70s. I am just saying less than 1% of the country is dying from this and most who are dying are 70+. I get it, if you are 83 years old you are going to try and hold on as long as you can. But you cannot have a hostage scenario for everyone else. Your comment of just getting it over with is probably correct, I want to get back on a cruise next year as I have a $1,400 credit.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
A douche and a pile of shit. Look in the mirror.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgull
Since Trump is ignoring the experts, he owns this shit show. For people who live in reality, it's not pretty.
as usual, tgull raises an excellent point; if the heartland starts to lose family/friends who arent 70+ years old, whatever members of his inner circle trump cant fit onto airforce 1 on his way out of the country will be sold into white slavery.
I'd take Ivanka sight unseen, I have to admit it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Wuhan to test all residents for coronavirus in 10 days after new cases emerge
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lard ass should be taking some cues from china
It isn’t going away. Go back to your normal life. I was at 3 stores today, you know who wasn’t wearing masks? Fucking old people. They know the government is full of garbage and can’t be hoodwinked by all of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by big dick
and if any of you fags want to bet i want the dems @ +110
Fuck you are dumb. This is why you are immobilized as a stay-at-home Dad. Let me tell you how testing works in Wuhan. The rich get the test, the poor get escorted to a crematory. You literally are the dumbest poster I have ever seen on these forums, and I have been here since 2007 so that is a large sample size. What a dope.Quote:
Originally Posted by big dick
Nah I think I will wait and see what happens with a vaccineQuote:
Originally Posted by splitthisIt isn’t going away. Go back to your normal life. I was at 3 stores today, you know who wasn’t wearing masks? Fucking old people. They know the government is full of garbage and can’t be hoodwinked by all of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by big dick
If i get it I do but im going to try and avoid it
dont be mad that you're less of a man than meQuote:
Originally Posted by tgullFuck you are dumb. This is why you are immobilized as a stay-at-home Dad. Let me tell you how testing works in Wuhan. The rich get the test, the poor get escorted to a crematory. You literally are the dumbest poster I have ever seen on these forums, and I have been here since 2007 so that is a large sample size. What a dope.Quote:
Originally Posted by big dick
not my fault your genetics suck
Fauci Testifies U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Likely Underreported.
“I don’t know the exact percent that it’s higher, but certainly, it’s higher,” the nation’s leading expert on infectious diseases told the Senate health committee.
Dr. Anthony Fauci keeps fucking up Trump's plan for re-opening the economy and Trump's re-election campaign.
I would not be surprised if Trump replaces him with Dr. Jared Kushner.
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Stunned by this today. Dewine is a rock star according to this. #1 and not closeQuote:
Originally Posted by Walter SobchakHis popularity has skyrocketed largely due to his handling of the virus and his repudiation of Trump's idiocy. If he runs again he will win. Would you vote for a Democrat instead?Quote:
Originally Posted by splitthis
I hope you get laid split. I miss split pre-COVID
Senator Rand Paul needs to STFU.
He is not a medical doctor.
He used to have a clinic and treat eye disorders.
Rand Paul needs to get his eyes examined.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQkOSUpDJ8A
He’s an ophthalmologist. Not an optometrist. Didn’t watch video. He’s probably wrong with whatever he’s saying, but he’s a doctor. I’m pretty sure they go to med school and that’s a specialty after.
Can Trump just tell the truth for a second?
Leaked White House data shows infections spiking more than 1,000% in rural areas that backed Trump
https://www.salon.com/2020/05/12/lea...-backed-trump/
Trump claims cases are falling everywhere. An unreleased task force report shows massive spikes in the heartland
A leaked unreleased White House coronavirus task force report showing cases spiking in areas across the country has undercut President Donald Trump's claim that cases are declining across the nation.
"You know, the numbers are coming down very rapidly all throughout the country, by the way," Trump declared at a Monday news conference. "There may be one exception, but all throughout the country, the numbers are coming down rapidly."
This is, of course, not true. Though cases are decreasing in 14 states, they are rising in nine states, according to The New York Times. A lack of widespread testing in 27 other states, plus Washington and Puerto Rico, suggests that cases in those areas are being undercounted.
But a leaked coronavirus task force report obtained by NBC News shows that some parts of the country — rural counties in Tennessee and Kansas — have seen cases balloon by more than 1,000% in a matter of one week. Other counties in Missouri, Nebraska, Minnesota and Wisconsin saw increases of more than 400%.
Dr. John Ross, a professor at Harvard Medical School, pointed out that all but one of the top 10 counties that saw the largest increases voted for President Donald Trump in 2016.
The top 10 cities in the report, which was produced on May 7, saw cases increases by more than 72% over seven days. Some areas, like St. Louis and Central City, Ky., saw cases skyrocket by 650% over that span. St. Cloud, Minn., saw cases increase by more than 400%. Other cities like Gainesville, Ga., Racine, Wisc., and Nashville saw increases of more than 100% over a single week.
A separate graph listing "locations to watch" include Kansas City, Mo., and Charlotte, which saw increases of more than 200% over the previous week.
The report found that statewide cases in Minnesota increased by nearly 100% over a single week while New Mexico, Tennessee, Wisconsin and the nation's capital saw increases of more than 40%.
Despite the alarming increases, Trump has continued to publicly and falsely claim that cases are falling nearly everywhere.
"Coronavirus numbers are looking MUCH better, going down almost everywhere," he tweeted Tuesday.
Medical professionals criticized Trump's attempts to spin rising death counts.
"Anybody that claims we're on a downward trajectory nationally is out of touch with reality," Dr. Irwin Redlener, the director of the Columbia University National Center for Disaster Preparedness, told NBC News, adding that even the rising numbers do not tell the full story. "There isn't a single state in the union that has sufficient testing."
Though states like New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts, which were hit hard early, have seen numbers decline, the nation has a rising curve when New York's massive totals are excluded.
"It's not appropriate to say the U.S. is consistently on a downward trend at all," Redlener said. "In some places, it might be the direct opposite of that."
Trump has also complained to advisers about the way that deaths are counted, arguing that the "real numbers are actually lower," Axios reported last week.
But medical experts, including those on Trump's own task force, say the opposite is true.
"Most of us feel that the number of deaths are likely higher than" the 80,000 that is currently reported, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, testified to a Senate committee on Tuesday. "The number is likely higher. I don't know exactly what percent higher, but almost certainly, it's higher."
Fauci also pushed back on Trump's optimism and pressure on states to reopen businesses during the hearing.
"If some areas, cities, states or what-have-you jump over those various checkpoints and prematurely open up without having the capability of being able to respond effectively and efficiently, my concern is that we will start to see little spikes that might turn into outbreaks," Fauci said. "I have been very clear in my message — to try to the best extent possible to go by the guidelines, which have been very well thought out and very well delineated."
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Originally Posted by TheXFactor
Nice dodge of my entire point, which is your specialty when my post raises an issue for which you have no answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy JoeBuT mEdIaQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Trump hosts these needless press conferences to fuel his malignant narcissism, theres no other reason.
It's the media's fault for attending and asking him questions? Their fault that he has lied about everything throughout?
It's their fault that your party enabled this incompetent lunatic who is largely responsible for how bad things have gotten?
I thought you had shifted to being a silent member of Team Retard after we didn't get your spin on his disinfectant/sunlight remarks.
Guess not.
The question from that reporter sucked. It wasn't attempting to find anything out. It was as useful as a question as "Why are you such an asshole?" or "How does it feel to be so ugly?"
Just a lame, super-loaded question which attacks Trump while not making any kind of real point or asking for a serious answer.
Of course Team Victim is spinning it to say that Trump can't handle strong women asking him tough questions, and therefore his walking out of the press conference was sexist. They've gotta be glad that they have people like you and Mumbles to lap it up.
So funny how Trump called the mainstream media "fake news" 4 years ago in order to avoid answering questions he didn't like, and then the tiltmonkey media actually morphed into the fake news he originally accused them of being. TDS to the max, and it's sad to watch.
Trump is a narcissistic moron and a pathological liar who constantly lies his fucking ass off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
He believes the truth is whatever shit he makes up in his head that comes out of his mouth.
He deserves whatever shit he gets from these female reporters. They will accomplish what no news media organization has never done. Make Trump look bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUfV1i62hKw
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Originally Posted by sonatine
I didn't mention anything about women or his racism, cult boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffNice dodge of my entire point, which is your specialty when my post raises an issue for which you have no answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
The question from that reporter sucked. It wasn't attempting to find anything out. It was as useful as a question as "Why are you such an asshole?" or "How does it feel to be so ugly?"
Just a lame, super-loaded question which attacks Trump while not making any kind of real point or asking for a serious answer.
Of course Team Victim is spinning it to say that Trump can't handle strong women asking him tough questions, and therefore his walking out of the press conference was sexist. They've gotta be glad that they have people like you and Mumbles to lap it up.
So funny how Trump called the mainstream media "fake news" 4 years ago in order to avoid answering questions he didn't like, and then the tiltmonkey media actually morphed into the fake news he originally accused them of being. TDS to the max, and it's sad to watch.
These press conferences are a needless byproduct of his pathological narcissism. Nobody in the GOP wants them to happen, including you, as they expose him for the absolute incompetent moron that you still pathetically endorse because you're a lemming.
Do you expect the press to treat him like the doddering retard that he is?
Do you not think he should answer questions that he subjects himself to?
Aside from a China ban where 40k people still entered, what moves from him do you back?
It's all fun and games until people start dying and going bankrupt. Then people start paying attention to reality and it's obvious who's competent and who's incompetent.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarStunned by this today. Dewine is a rock star according to this. #1 and not closeQuote:
Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak
I hope you get laid split. I miss split pre-COVID
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big dick: lemming
That's rich.