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Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
On a side note you should always post from your bottomset account.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bottomset69
Set, this thread began on September 26th, 2010 and has survived through two 7-9 seasons, the demise of tydepoker, tydenation, venompoker, tydepoker 2 and donkdown.
Regardless of what happens on Sunday, the thread will carry on.
He has three of those. Bottomset, Bottomset69, and Bottomset316 are all good choices tho.
B=Brady R=Rodgers M=Manning
QB Rating
R 108
M 105.8
B 98.7
Complettion %
M 68.6%
R 67.2%
B 63%
Yards
B 4827
M 4659
R 4295
Times sacked
R 51
B 27
M 21
Tds
R 39
M 37
B 34
Ints
R 8
B 8
M 11
Rush yards & tds
R 259ry 2tds
B 32ry 4 tds
M 6ry 0tds
All Pro votes
M 43
R 4
B 3
Does Manning deserve to win of course but do the votes really say what happened on the field? Not even close. I dont think you should get bonus points for coming back from an injury or changing teams. Although its amazing what he had to overcome its not fair to punish Brady and Rodgers for not getting hurt and for not getting cut by their team.
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Originally Posted by ShadyJ
There were more seahawks voted to the pro bowl than made all pro guy, and I know that you agree with me on Sherman so what the hell are you talking about?
I do agree on Sherman as I said All Pro is better then Pro Bowl.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts:facepalmQuote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
There were more seahawks voted to the pro bowl than made all pro guy, and I know that you agree with me on Sherman so what the hell are you talking about?
So as Im looking up qb stats. I find a real important one not for this year, but for their Legacys. I would put manning ahead of Brady and wouldnt argue him being the greatest qb ever. I just assumed even though Manning has only 1 Super Bowl I figured he was really good in the playoffs. I was wrong.
Brady 16-6 in the playoffs
Manning 9-10
Thats pretty shocking to me and makes me realize how much I underestimated Brady or maybe overestimated Manning. When its all said and done playoff wins and Super Bowls rings are what defines a QB, and its not even close.
Brady had an immensely better defense and much better coach for most of those playoff games.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
I always thought that Dungy was a mediocre coach. His quiet calmness is not what you need in the playoffs. He approached playoff games like regular season games, running the exact same plays that the opponents had a season full of film on.
Some of Bellichick's defense gameplans against the Colts were works of art, and I say that as someone who hates Bellichick. Sean Payton's offense gameplay in that Super Bowl was fantastic. The surprise onside kick was a huge gamble, that swung the entire game.
Any of the three are deserving, but considering Manning had the highest QBR by 7 points over Brady I think it is the right choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
QBR is a joke. You lose 1 point for every time you get sacked. Otherwise Rodgers would have destroyed everyone in QBR.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonutsAny of the three are deserving, but considering Manning had the highest QBR by 7 points over Brady I think it is the right choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
Its impossible to judge this. I mean when you make 20 mill a year you eat up so much salary cap space that its going to hurt your team. Rodgers makes only 9 Mill so that helps get better teamattes even though its a joke Jennings makes more then him.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBBrady had an immensely better defense and much better coach for most of those playoff games.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
I always thought that Dungy was a mediocre coach. His quiet calmness is not what you need in the playoffs. He approached playoff games like regular season games, running the exact same plays that the opponents had a season full of film on.
Some of Bellichick's defense gameplans against the Colts were works of art, and I say that as someone who hates Bellichick. Sean Payton's offense gameplay in that Super Bowl was fantastic. The surprise onside kick was a huge gamble, that swung the entire game.
You can measure defenses with numbers. The year that the Colts won the Super Bowl, their running defense was among the worst in the history of the NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJIts impossible to judge this. I mean when you make 20 mill a year you eat up so much salary cap space that its going to hurt your team. Rodgers makes only 9 Mill so that helps get better teamattes even though its a joke Jennings makes more then him.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/te.../2/order/false
They allowed 440 more yards than the #2 team, the same margin between second and 18th. The only way they could win was by getting ahead on the scoreboard and forcing the other team to pass.
Nate Silver Predicts Super Bowl Matchup Featuring Patriots vs. Seahawks (VIDEO)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobile...n_2451994.html
http://roccosrevolution.files.wordpr...ey-evicted.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Tiny
I hate to toot my own horn,, But Toot Toot!! :this:to:knifeQuote:
Originally Posted by badguy23100% This moves to at least -3 by the weekend. Everyone will think about the 14-0 lead that the Deadskins jumped out to and then RG Whitey got hurt and is why the Seahawks won.. Just listen to azz clown in this thread if he isnt Joe Public no one is. Something has to give next week in these games with all 4 favs covering this weekend. Although Im sure vegas loves that all 4 games went under. I look for the Ravens to beat the Broncos next week.. Atl vs Sea no clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
Yeb and I are on the run with a trip report to come from the econo lounge that we busted a window out of and stayed at for 2 nights. That mother fcker is weird.
Its like GB last year they play quick tempo offense which puts your defense on the field alot more. Plus there ahead alot so alot of yards they give are garbage yards. I wasnt meaning that anyways. I'm saying when you compare 2 qbs legacy you cant say well Tom Brady may have alot more wins but he had better teams. Its meaningless all that matters is wins and losses and Manning is now 9-11 in the playoffs, and the year he won the superbowl he was 4-0, so besides 1 great year he has 5 playoff wins and 11 losses. Bradys numbers crush his.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBYou can measure defenses with numbers. The year that the Colts won the Super Bowl, their running defense was among the worst in the history of the NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/te.../2/order/false
They allowed 440 more yards than the #2 team, the same margin between second and 18th. The only way they could win was by getting ahead on the scoreboard and forcing the other team to pass.
[QUOTE=badguy23;120142]I hate to toot my own horn,, But Toot Toot!! :this:to:knifeQuote:
Originally Posted by badguy23
Yeb and I are on the run with a trip report to come from the econo lounge that we busted a window out of and stayed at for 2 nights. That mother fcker is weird.[/QUOTE]
Dont you have kids man? I swear this site has the most grown ass people acting like there still 16.
Grow up you horrible little faggot. Don't most guys grow out of that shit when they are 18 or 19? I really hope somebody took this guy in the death pool.Quote:
Originally Posted by badguy23
Take the gun out of your mouth Shady, no shame in losing to a superior foe.
Its just like I told my son when he was traveling the country playing soccer I'm always ok when the better teams wins no matter who it is. Last year Gb lost to a worse team this year they lost to a better team. To have a chance to beat SF they needed to be at home. They were on there 5th running back who was selling cars halfway through the season. The lost there best 2 mlbs. Losing Perry at outside lb was a huge loss because his backup is horrible. Pretty much everyone except Rodgers was hurt at sometime throughout the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
Its 10-0 Atl. Seattle has them right where they want them. Now all they need to happen is Ryan to tear his acl and there good.
gg Seahawks next year
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4
Game was lost on 2 plays IMO... First, the terrible 4th and 1 call, and second obv was the sack before halftime.
GL next year Tony, lot to build on from this year. You get a stud WR and they will be really hard to stop.
Uh-oh... Might have blown my load too early here.
This might come back to haunt me more than Druff and his hurricane Katrina prediction.
LOL wow
Got a great LIVE ODDS bet in on Seattle winning while they were down 20 late in the 3rd qtr
There is still 30 seconds left plus 2 Atl timeouts left. Anything can happen.
PHEW!!!!!!!
The Seahawks almost owned my face.
GG Tony, GL next season.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3203/3...111798cddb.jpg
DON'T DO IT TONY!!!!!!!!!!!!
COME BACK TO US BUDDY!
Typical.
Time to take my medicine.......................................... ......
Fuck
Shit
Ballz
Cock ass
:noose
Atlanta is the better team and that's fucking it.............
Shit fire
No excuses
I disagree. Seahawks looked like the better team IMO. They made some horrible coaching decisions though that in the end cost them the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
Don't be so hard on yourself over this loss, you got a lot to look forward to.
I know one thing... I will be targeting Wilson in a lot of FFB drafts next season.
Great season Tony. Really bright future with RW and young team.
No they wouldn't and yes, he most certainly is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_HershiserNo.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
I'm not gonna toss out useless cherrypicked stats. They've all put up impressive numbers. Luck has broken several rookie passing records, so he's got the stats. RG3's got some impressive passing and rushing stats. It boils down to this. Seattle would trade Russell Wilson to Indy for Luck or to WAS for RG3 straight across in a heart beat. Indy and WAS wouldn't even take Seattle's call for that trade. Wilson has had a nice season. He's taken them farther than most thought possible. But he isn't even in the same class as Luck or RG3. You would be hard pressed to find anybody outside of Seattle who thinks he is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6tOz_S7oW0
If Russell Wilson can succeed next year after every coach in the league has had an entire offseason to come up with ways to stop what he and Kaepernick and RG3 were doing, I will concede he is the real deal. But right now, he may be no different than the last guy to win powerball. He has a lifetime of being an average QB, and one season of going 10-6 (they lost to GB). Matt Cassel went 11-5 his first full year too. Is he even still a QB in the league? Hell, even Ryan Leaf won his first two games. Bottom line is things look promising. But I wouldn't start massaging his balls quite yet.
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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/89...anning-win-mvp
Griffin, whose thrill-a-minute combination of running and passing skills led Washington to its first NFC East title in 13 years, pulled away from Andrew Luck of the Colts and Russell Wilson of the Seahawks in a lopsided vote announced Saturday.
RG III earned 29 votes from a nationwide panel of 50 media members who regularly cover the league. Luck was next with 11 and Wilson got 10.
Sorry Tony. Looks like Russell is still sucking hind tit when it comes to 2012 Rookie QB's.
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Originally Posted by limitlesQuote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
Fuck I waste all my good irony on a guy like Anusclown. Russell Wilson is Fran Tarkenton. Talented but more importantly smart. He is also Doug Flutie. You won't see Russ getting his limbs ripped apart like any of the other "read option" rookies. Tarkenton was one of the smartest QB's to ever play the game and that meant taking what was there but more importantly preserving himself. RG3 has already shown that he's not that smart by throwing his body into the mix but not protecting number one. Luck is a pocket passer period. He doesn't have the legs.
And eh O el at you comparing Matt Cassel with the Patriots and Matt Cassel with the Chiefs. I should not have to point out such foolishness.
In terms of the Seahawks playing in the Superbowl later today....
TAKE IT DOWN!