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i got my fucking dick torn off with AMD but broke even with FB and they havent even dropped earnings yet. also got a couple of long calls on TSLA and some significant puts on DAL and UAL because lolwuhanaments.
could be a nice 24 hours.
could also be claustrophobic horror.
flip a coin.
Boeing is like we lost 19BN causes of 737 crashes, stock up 2.5%. Makes sense. I got in at 335 so Im not complaining, lol marketaments
Fed extends repo into April
buy buy buy buy!!!
I have to admit this Tesla run up is surprising today.
So glad I got out for half. But I need sub 550 tomorrow.
If history repeats itself Tesla will be 520 tomorrow am.
Are we in the "listening to conference calls" stage of our lives?
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honestly anything relevant beyond the stock movement is going to be in my twitter feed.
god bless this pasty white n-word.
i switched to a put option on tsla. smart money is getting tf out of dodge by the looks of it.
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honestly anything relevant beyond the stock movement is going to be in my twitter feed.
There are subtleties that are often lost in translation. An emphasis that doesn’t carry through.
Then there is the bias. Always the bias
Questions are always fun at the end.
Some warm herbal tea, a conference call followed by Friends reruns. Yeah, that stage
Barn find
You every find a forgotten flashlight? Open it up and the batteries are corroded? What do you do? Throw it out, amirite?
Years from now when Sonatine’s relatives settle his estate .... they are gonna open up that barn in the back. Under the Hillary for President posters and fly fishing gear will be a Model Y with 4 miles on the odometer.
Sotheby’s will catalog the fly fishing gear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zja-mLs0Fas
and my god have mercy on our souls.
live and learn, live and learn.
$605 ouch.
thank christ it was only one put.
I guess stop losses dont execute in afterhours trading? Cause I had FB to sell at 212 and its 206 and I still have these fucking shares
Lol Teslaments. So sick
Yeah. Okay first. You have no idea what 'smart money' is doing. This ain't sports betting. The size and scope is an order of magnitude difference, especially in options. The side you think the money is on is actually completely different many times. The 'smart' money can do things retail investors just can't do. In terms of options, they are almost always just playing volatility and the movement direction is just an afterthought given put call parity and delta/gamma hedging. They take schmucks and profit off the the inability to understand basic options pricing models taking into the factor of delta hedging.Quote:
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This is amateur level analysis and classic moron. Take a report.
Monsterj
You may not have any interest in TSLA. Nevertheless, give us you quick take.
What would you tell your wife
stock started the month of December at roughly 330...traded at roughly 650 in the post market...
no words..
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its the new cryptocurrency basically.
also they operated at a loss again.
sign of the times i suppose.
anyway, back in my bullshit; pending red flags im taking some puts on starbucks and calls on msft.
im starting to think the pre-market mini bumps in UAL and DAL are algo driven.
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Originally Posted by monsterjYeah. Okay first. You have no idea what 'smart money' is doing. This ain't sports betting. The size and scope is an order of magnitude difference, especially in options. The side you think the money is on is actually completely different many times. The 'smart' money can do things retail investors just can't do. In terms of options, they are almost always just playing volatility and the movement direction is just an afterthought given put call parity and delta/gamma hedging. They take schmucks and profit off the the inability to understand basic options pricing models taking into the factor of delta hedging.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Whoever or whatever is on the other side of your trade is likely much, much smarter than you. You're playing checkers and your trade partner is likely playing Star Trek chess.
WHO just took my puts out behind the woodshed.
Right, I would stay away too. I've invested in Boise the last few years in rentals and land, I guess I've been lucky.Quote:
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its the new cryptocurrency basically.
also they operated at a loss again.
sign of the times i suppose.
anyway, back in my bullshit; pending red flags im taking some puts on starbucks and calls on msft.
So instead of putting money in Tesla which I have been comiserating for oast few months, I decided to put it in this company called Amazon? Ever heard of it motherfuckers?
I swear, in this market, you cant lose.
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well if you really want to, spend hours researching what industry vectors were most influenced by the 2003 SARS outbreak, then research the companies most vulnerable to disruption of chinese business within those quadrants, then stack puts on them before the WHO somehow manages to suck the feds dick off then fucks it back on resulting in a 230+ point dow increase.
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Originally Posted by sonatineQuote:
Originally Posted by OSA
well if you really want to, spend hours researching what industry vectors were most influenced by the 2003 SARS outbreak, then research the companies most vulnerable to disruption of chinese business within those quadrants, then stack puts on them before the WHO somehow manages to suck the feds dick off then fucks it back on resulting in a 230+ point dow increase.
My nuts got squeezed but I kinda knew I was due for a Fibonacci retracement. I’m right in the middle of China with Wynn. Can’t bluff me off my hand tho. I call. Next card pleaseQuote:
Stocks Rebound to End Higher as Coronavirus Outbreak Declared Public Health Emergency
Fib numbers. Your next rabbit hole Sonatine. Maybe you know but I always loved this miracle of nature. Gods hand if I ever saw it. Body parts ratios. At least for us.
That and whatever guides Simpdog hockey picks.
i keep seeing/hearing fib referenced by godmode traders and im too superstitious to bite.Quote:
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My nuts got squeezed but I kinda knew I was due for a Fibonacci retracement. I’m right in the middle of China with Wynn. Can’t bluff me off my hand tho. I call. Next card pleaseQuote:
Stocks Rebound to End Higher as Coronavirus Outbreak Declared Public Health Emergency
Fib numbers. Your next rabbit hole Sonatine. Maybe you know but I always loved this miracle of nature. Gods hand if I ever saw it. Body parts ratios. At least for us.
That and whatever guides Simpdog hockey picks.
watching all this manic exuberance deflate in after hours really does appeal to the bitch in me.
It’s a skill to find something wrong in just about every situation, but I have an exquisite talent for negativity. At least I thought I was special.Quote:
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Until that post.
That doesn’t mean I’m unhappy.
Consider the concept of Max Pain in options. It is the price at which the stock would cause financial losses for the largest number of option holders at expiration.
C’mon. Just knowing that’s a thing .... endorphins firing - amirite?
You’d be surprised how the stock price magically gravitates to that magic number. That was monsterj before he found god.
I see you nodding your head. Now that kinda bothers me. Cause part of your appeal is - your not me. You don’t want to be me, trust me.
I pray for your soul.
I sometimes wonder what it would be like to a write post then let it sit. Perhaps reread it before pushing send.
Total stream of consciousness. Plus the Apple predictive gremlin is a low grade troll.
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It’s a skill to find something wrong in just about every situation, but I have an exquisite talent for negativity. At least I thought I was special.
Until that post.
That doesn’t mean I’m unhappy.
Consider the concept of Max Pain in options. It is the price at which the stock would cause financial losses for the largest number of option holders at expiration.
C’mon. Just knowing that’s a thing .... endorphins firing - amirite?
You’d be surprised how the stock price magically gravitates to that magic number. That was monsterj before he found god.
I see you nodding your head. Now that kinda bothers me. Cause part of your appeal is - your not me. You don’t want to be me, trust me.
I pray for your soul.
Welcome to being Jewish.
You and your after-hours and options habits leave me alternating between chortling and shaking my head. I think in your heart you're an investor but you're acting like a trader and those are two completely different animals.Quote:
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Find great companies you understand, dollar cost average in, buy in bulk on dips and pullbacks, become wealthy.
IMO Tesla is to the point that it should be owned, not traded.
Just my $.02 that no one asked for.
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Originally Posted by tony bagadonutsYou and your after-hours and options habits leave me alternating between chortling and shaking my head. I think in your heart you're an investor but you're acting like a trader and those are two completely different animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonatine
Find great companies you understand, dollar cost average in, buy in bulk on dips and pullbacks, become wealthy.
IMO Tesla is to the point that it should be owned, not traded.
Just my $.02 that no one asked for.
there is much to be contemplated here, thank you.
so, to respond; right now im literally just fascinated by the machine. im still seeing where i fit in all this. ive had consistent good days punctuated by one spectacularly bad day where i thought i could fade a huge risk and got bodied, despite being told over and over this was no way to go through life, and another fairly bad day where i failed to consider the influence of parties who did not want the market to sink from the exact things i bet on to drag it down.
but mostly im just learning how things work right now; day trading is trial by fire. and if/when my roll gets swole enough ill gladly pivot to investments.
something you said that i 100% grok with is the need to narrow my focus and specialize on the behavior of a few choice stocks. i basically have 3 on my plate that make a ton of sense to me, so im going to spend the day grinding them with a measure of discipline, inshallah.
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cool so the exact thing that made CDO tranches radioactive volcanos is now institutionalized?Quote:
That’s all made ETFs wildly popular for “passive” investing, but has kept most active managers tethered to the mutual fund structure. The new non-transparent ETFs try to offer a happy medium: they allow active managers to mask their strategies,while keeping the pricing of the fund liquid enough that it can be traded throughout the day.
On Thursday, the Securities and Exchange Commission gave its blessing to a wave of companies, including asset managers like T. Rowe Price and Fidelity, to use their own versions of the products in their own funds, and to a company called Blue Tractor, which will license its version, Shielded Alpha, to asset managers. That follows an initial approval, in May, for a company called Precidian to offer its “ActiveShares” product to asset manager licensees.
this is going to go great.
Investors fleeing to the safety of blue chips like Proctor & Gamble and Tesla
zerohedge got thrown off twitter. anyone know why?
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Sticking by all of this. This security is a bankruptcy waiting to happen.
Can’t even think about selling it. Might hit 1000.