Nick Fuentes - all things

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Originally Posted by Kalam

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Originally Posted by Krypt

No opinion, just insight from a seasoned prognosticator. Fuentes currently 58k viewers @ midnight on RUMBLE

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There seems to be a lot of this. A lot of people (not saying you specifically) think we need to stick it to the Jews, but dont really have any clear vision for how this is actually going to make anything better for America; especially as it is playing out in real time.

And the irony is these so called "American first" Jew haters are allying with people who literally hate America, and are attacking Jews specifically because they see Jews/Israel as a weak point of Western power and hegemony; and by helping isolate and ostracize Jews they believe they are weakening American power and influence, and do see a clear path towards achieving their goals.

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Jews are extraordinarily smart and rise to prominence in whatever pursuit they choose. I recall saying to Druff years ago, that if Jews have a blind spot, it’s in not keeping their heads down. That people eventually notice when people have disproportionate power. They are victims of their own success.

Jews are huge players on both the left and right, so if you’re angry from whatever side, Jews become the natural target because they do have a lot of complicity in whatever you find evil.

Like if you’re a nationalist right winger who hates the new complexion and browning of America, one needs to look at where it started. The 60s. Almost all the northern do gooders killed down south fighting for integration were young Jewish dudes. All the civil rights shit is so heavily Jewish.

The campus unrest of that era which led to the modern protest culture. You had Abbie Hoffman or Jerry Rubin with the mic. Most of the Weather Underground was Jewish. Most of the Chicago 7 were Jews. When the National Guard started shooting at Kent State, 2 of the 4 were Jews. That’s before you get into every lawyer for those groups and who was funding them. So if you’re pissed at what America looks like, hating the group who is 2% or 3# of the population and more than half of all prominent figures is a pretty natural place to start.


Then you view it from the left point of view. The 80s and Reagan were the beginning of evangelical Christianity as a voting block for the right. That movement was joined at the hip with Israel. People view our wars as not those of self interest. That we are targeted because of our support for Israel, which is undeniable. Every terrorist chanting death to America cites our support of Israel as their top point of contention with us.

Add in Netanyahu and the Israeli right wing has been joined at the hip for 20 years, and are beyond criticism. Strike fear into politician that dares to speak a word against Israel.


Add in Bernie Maddoff, Epstein, Harvey Weinstein at the top of major scandals. Jews killing millions with opiates and then disappearing to Israel.

Add in the housing crisis where it was a different a bunch of Jews at the major banks not even getting a slap on the wrist for driving the country into a recession.

Where Jews rise to prominence and greatly add to America is the quiet pursuits. No one can name famous doctors, famous modern scientists, etc.

But they also rise to the leaders of gross shit like pornography, Ponzi schemes, payday loan shit and are seem as the main beneficiaries of usury. That shit does get headlines.


Jews are rightfully proud of all they achieved and have conferences where they herald all their achievements and Benjamin sits in Israel laughing about how easy it is to buy America right up until people notice, and then it suddenly shifts back to but we are such a small percentage. And that is a bad argument when you run so much.

Like I said years ago, they aren’t good at keeping their head down. Even smart black drug dealers know you don’t want to be viewed as successful. Jews know that for decades and then get comfortable and seem to forget it. This has been a reoccurring theme throughout history.

It’s why I keep losing my mind at how dumb Netanyahu is to be paying all these people that really no one likes like Cruz or other unpopular figures with 20% approval to get on their knees and prostate themselves before Israel. It’s so idiotic it’s baffling.

I thoroughly disagree, they're absolute masters at 'keeping their head down'.

This narraritive about Jews being persecuted is pure horse shit.

We come to the nations pretending to escape persecution, we the most deadly persecutors in all the wretched annals of man.”
— Samuel Roth
Palestine is the latest chapter.
Lebanon is trending on X, i don't even have to look. Israel bombing the fuck out of them for the third time today or some shit.

Lets get to the real issue, this is their true religous belief. Which means it's non negotiable.
If you move into a host country and you truly believe this and covertly work towards this end it shouldn't be a surprise when you get kicked out. In the past they didn't have the internet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPzjvmFZ1B4

How are people going to overlook this? In Israel you see those Jewish kids spitting and kicking Christians because this is taught at a very young age. This isn't some obscure line from their scripture.

What the explanation for this?

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Originally Posted by BCR

But they also rise to the leaders of gross shit like pornography, Ponzi schemes, payday loan shit and are seem as the main beneficiaries of usury. That shit does get headlines.


Jews are rightfully proud of all they achieved and have conferences where they herald all their achievements and Benjamin sits in Israel laughing about how easy it is to buy America right up until people notice, and then it suddenly shifts back to but we are such a small percentage. And that is a bad argument when you run so much.

Like I said years ago, they aren’t good at keeping their head down. Even smart black drug dealers know you don’t want to be viewed as successful. Jews know that for decades and then get comfortable and seem to forget it. This has been a reoccurring theme throughout history.

It’s why I keep losing my mind at how dumb Netanyahu is to be paying all these people that really no one likes like Cruz or other unpopular figures with 20% approval to get on their knees and prostate themselves before Israel. It’s so idiotic it’s baffling.

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I get your point, and I get why stupid, racist people might fall for it. But Telafriend seems fairly smart and aware, which is why I pick on him. You dont see me bothering with Mickey and Dollarboxcar.

Whatever some Jews did in year 0, or 1900, or 1948, or the 1960s, or the 1990s with the Epstein stuff; how does focusing obsessively on this help us now? What is the path forward?

I see why social media bot farms in Pakistan, Malaysia and Nigeria are amplifying all of this. Exactly because they believe it weakens us. That is literally the goal. And I get why leftists and Islamists are all in; they hate America and Jews for their own reasons. I cant speak for anyone else, but I kind of want to do the opposite of the people who literally say their goal is to destroy America; not join their movement.

But I dont get why any semi aware person who doesn't hate America thinks his is the path forward. Even given the history. And other western nations with almost no Jews or Jewish influence have the same problems, in most cases worse. So I am not really sure Jews are the problem. If Jews were actually the problem, why aren't nations with no Jews doing so much better? Britain and Ireland barely have any Jews. They have all the same problems but much worse.

It seems the problems are structural. And would exist with or without Jews. And putting Jews in their place without addressing any of the actual issues, while it may make a certain type of person feel good, wont actually fix anything; and is almost sure to make things worse.

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Originally Posted by Kalam

I get your point, and I get why stupid, racist people might fall for it. But Telafriend seems fairly smart and aware, which is why I pick on him. You dont see me bothering with Mickey and Dollarboxcar.

Whatever some Jews did in year 0, or 1900, or 1948, or the 1960s, or the 1990s with the Epstein stuff; how does focusing obsessively on this help us now? What is the path forward?

I see why social media bot farms in Pakistan, Malaysia and Nigeria are amplifying all of this. Exactly because they believe it weakens us. That is literally the goal. And I get why leftists and Islamists are all in; they hate America and Jews for their own reasons. I cant speak for anyone else, but I kind of want to do the opposite of the people who literally say their goal is to destroy America; not join their movement.

But I dont get why any semi aware person who doesn't hate America thinks his is the path forward. Even given the history. And other western nations with almost no Jews or Jewish influence have the same problems, in most cases worse. So I am not really sure Jews are the problem. If Jews were actually the problem, why aren't nations with no Jews doing so much better? Britain and Ireland barely have any Jews. They have all the same problems but much worse.

It seems the problems are structural. And would exist with or without Jews. And putting Jews in their place without addressing any of the actual issues, while it may make a certain type of person feel good, wont actually fix anything; and is almost sure to make things worse.

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You don't bother with people that you know will shatter your argument. Trump says two state solution. Europeans say two state solution. As a zionist you know full well there will never be a two state solution. The zionist goal is Greater Israel. Likud will pay a little lip service to two state solution as they continue to expand their occupation of the West Bank and now Gaza. Thats to appease Europe and America. But they have no intention of a two state solution. And they have their eyes on much more. Ultimate goal is Greater Israel and Likud is using dupe Americans to accomplish it.

Greater Israel is way to ambitious and unaccomplishable in my eyes. Likud will never get all of it. But if allowed to they will gobble up as much of it as they can.

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Originally Posted by Kalam

I was projecting from Telafriends perspective. Trump Jr. and Tucker are in Qatar right now grifting the night away. Tucker is bragging how he is in the process of "buying" a house in Qatar. Foreigners dont just buy property in Qatar; any property he does end up with will be payment for services rendered.

I have been the most outspoken person on this forum pointing out all the influence peddling Qatar has been doing. But Trump is just the tip of the iceberg, and most blatant. Numerous European countries and even Israel have had their own "Qatargate" scandals; although it isn't ever really a scandal because everyone is payed off so no one cares.

With Trump the corruption is a given. If you voted for him, especially in 2024, and didn't realize or accept this; you are literally retarded. The only question is, apart from the grifting is he doing a good job or not. And IMO (you and Telafriend are free to disagree) Trump's efforts in exposing supposed pedophile rings from 25 years ago is the least of what we should be judging Trump on and worrying about; and for you guys it seems to be the #1 priority. And I feel this is extremely misplaced priorities.

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I care about the Epstein case only in so far as it’s an inside baseball look into a situation I’m sure is still occurring. And quite frankly, the political penalty Trump has paid to keep it hidden tells me that whatever entities were in charge of running it are still operating. And that has to mean heavy intelligence ties.

Most of the men are old, gone, or irrelevant at this point and anyone would throw them on the fire pit of history to save their administration unless there is something very damning still to hide. Him pressuring sitting congressman to bury it. His hundred attempts to bury it. The laughable about face. All of it screams it’s really bad. A list of Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, and a bunch of elderly old perverts wouldn’t cause any ripple. They know that. Yet they fiercely protect it. Makes zero sense. Unless his participation is way more damning than he’s let on or it directly involves CIA/Israel in some heavy handed way.

Your post is why people want to see it. When a Jewish cheerleader says there is nothing to see there, then people know there is something to see there. Or at least was. He won’t ever release it until it’s so heavily redacted that we will get the list I already described with Bill Gates and Bill Clinton and absolutely no one will buy it except MAGtards.

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Maybe it is actually not in americas best interest for the world to know what the CIA was up to in the 1960s, the 1990s, or even today. In fact I am pretty sure it isn’t. Especially when Americas enemies are trying to use this as a wedge issue to tear the nation apart, and are doing a pretty god job of it.

It seems even Sonatine acknowledges this.

I get that you want to feel vindicated for your feelings, but it seems you are perfectly fine with destroying the nation for this vindication.

No one has even made an attempt to walk through how digging up this shit is going to be a good thing for the nation. It seems you already acknowledge nothing pertinent is going to be released, and you have already decided this is because of a giant conspiracy to cover it all up. So given that, what is the point of all of this? What is the upside?

I know what the upside is for people who hate America. What is the upside for the people that don’t hate ameiarica, other than potential emotional validation (which you already acknowledge probably isn’t going to happen)?

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Originally Posted by Kalam

It seems the problems are structural. And would exist with or without Jews. And putting Jews in their place without addressing any of the actual issues, while it may make a certain type of person feel good, wont actually fix anything; and is almost sure to make things worse.

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and who put those structures in place -- at least modern-day ones? who runs the treasury and fed, year after year? who dominates all of the cabinets regardless of party? who runs most of our major banks which we have to backstop? who started this mass immigration shit and who just let it loose under the last guy? who benefited most from our wars over the last two decades ? meanwhile we are now broke.


history is rhyming.

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Originally Posted by Kalam

Maybe it is actually not in americas best interest for the world to know what the CIA was up to in the 1960s, the 1990s, or even today. In fact I am pretty sure it isn’t. Especially when Americas enemies are trying to use this as a wedge issue to tear the nation apart, and are doing a pretty god job of it.

It seems even Sonatine acknowledges this.

I get that you want to feel vindicated for your feelings, but it seems you are perfectly fine with destroying the nation for this vindication.

No one has even made an attempt to walk through how digging up this shit is going to be a good thing for the nation. It seems you already acknowledge nothing pertinent is going to be released, and you have already decided this is because of a giant conspiracy to cover it all up. So given that, what is the point of all of this? What is the upside?

I know what the upside is for people who hate America. What is the upside for the people that don’t hate ameiarica, other than potential emotional validation (which you already acknowledge probably isn’t going to happen)?

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how the hell could they? but don't worry, just keep trusting the powers that be. see above. just look how well they have managed our affairs over the last 35 years.


and if what's in the those files is that sinister and our government is in peril by releasing them, then burn it the fuck down and start over. nothing that perverse is sustainable anyway.

stated in another thread on 9/9/25 and bears repeating:

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

the cover up is primarily for the benefit of: Israel and our deep state CIA etc who was leveraging what information they gained on these figures. if the american public found out what israel was doing and how our govt was complicit in allowing it might be the change that is sorely needed. hence, it will never see the light of day and why it hasn't until now, either. neither party is going to let the public know what our greatest ally really does and risk the derision that would follow.


the complicit members of both parties and their rich donors is secondary along with all the times trump is mentioned in them and whatever embarrassment might flow from it.


we are all here to allow 536 people to enrich themselves with power and wealth. everything else, including a sustainable future, is secondary if even a consideration.

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Originally Posted by Kalam

Maybe it is actually not in americas best interest for the world to know what the CIA was up to in the 1960s, the 1990s, or even today. In fact I am pretty sure it isn’t. Especially when Americas enemies are trying to use this as a wedge issue to tear the nation apart, and are doing a pretty god job of it.

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Would you have the same belief if the culprit in the files was Qatar instead of Israel?

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

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Originally Posted by Kalam

Maybe it is actually not in americas best interest for the world to know what the CIA was up to in the 1960s, the 1990s, or even today. In fact I am pretty sure it isn’t. Especially when Americas enemies are trying to use this as a wedge issue to tear the nation apart, and are doing a pretty god job of it.

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Would you have the same belief if the culprit in the files was Qatar instead of Israel?

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Maybe it is. Although Qatar becoming a big player is very recent, so it would have been Saudi Arabia if we are going back that far in time. You have all these assumptions about “the truth” based on very little actual evidence. And you seem impervious to any information which does not confirm your biases. It is all just hand waived away as part of the conspiracy.

And again, you have no model for how “sticking it to the Jews” makes anything better. Nor do you even seem to care much. At least Hitler had a plan which worked until it didn’t. The American woke right doesn’t even have that.

Reminds me when Candace was interviewing Harvey Weinstein and tried to get him to admit his production company was being bankrolled by Israel. And he kept dodging the question and she kept persisting. And then eventually he relented and admitted saudis were bankrolling him. And she quickly changed the subject.

https://x.com/infolibnews/status/199...130782437?s=20

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Originally Posted by Kalam

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

Would you have the same belief if the culprit in the files was Qatar instead of Israel?

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Maybe it is. Although Qatar becoming a big player is very recent, so it would have been Saudi Arabia if we are going back that far in time. You have all these assumptions about “the truth” based on very little actual evidence. And you seem impervious to any information which does not confirm your biases. It is all just hand waived away as part of the conspiracy.

Reminds me when Candace was interviewing Harvey Weinstein and tried to get him to admit his production company was being bankrolled by Israel. And he kept dodging the question and she kept persisting. And then eventually he relented and admitted saudis were bankrolling him. And she quickly changed the subject.

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you failed to answer the question, again.

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Originally Posted by Tellafriend

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Originally Posted by Kalam

Maybe it is. Although Qatar becoming a big player is very recent, so it would have been Saudi Arabia if we are going back that far in time. You have all these assumptions about “the truth” based on very little actual evidence. And you seem impervious to any information which does not confirm your biases. It is all just hand waived away as part of the conspiracy.

Reminds me when Candace was interviewing Harvey Weinstein and tried to get him to admit his production company was being bankrolled by Israel. And he kept dodging the question and she kept persisting. And then eventually he relented and admitted saudis were bankrolling him. And she quickly changed the subject.

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you failed to answer the question, again.

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You don’t answer any questions. What is going to happen if all the 9/11 files are released and we find out the Saudi royal family was behind it. You aren’t going to say Jack shit because your handlers don’t want you too. You are nothing but America last controlled opposition.

At least Sonarine acknowledges he is against America, and revels in promoting the opposition. You actually think slurping Pakistani explicitly anti American propaganda is America First. How delusional can you be?

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Originally Posted by Kalam

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you failed to answer the question, again.

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You don’t answer any questions. What is going to happen if all the 9/11 files are released and we find out the Saudi royal family was behind it. You aren’t going to say Jack shit because your handlers don’t want you too. You are nothing but America last controlled opposition.

At least Sonarine acknowledges he is against America, and revels in promoting the opposition. You actually think slurping Pakistani explicitly anti American propaganda is America First. How delusional can you be?

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3rd time you failed to respond with anything beyond hyperbole and a red herring. gotcha.


if the 9/11 files show that, which they likely do, good then burn the mfs down /make them pay.


you evidently don't pay attention here saying i wouldn't say jack shit bc of my handlers -- oh wait, you mean like the jews put over our congressmen. gotcha, again.


i spoke up just as ardently about all the bs under biden, just as i am trump.


and the reason 9/11 files won't be fully released, same as epstein, is bc our nation lacks the will to deal with the truth any longer. same exact thing with why we haven't gotten the real truth about the origin of covid and the lies which followed. would be too tough of a situation we are no longer equipped to handle. since i'm semi-intelligent according to your arrogance, i'll even give you an metaphor - we are doing the same with the treasuries, qe, and interest rates -- kicking the can bc we couldn't handle the reality that underlies the truth.


seems to me your tribe has had its hand in our cookie jar too long, now its going to get chopped off. old testament shit. you get it.

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Originally Posted by Kalam

And again, you have no model for how “sticking it to the Jews” makes anything better. Nor do you even seem to care much. At least Hitler had a plan which worked until it didn’t. The American woke right doesn’t even have that.

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Shapiro/Levin, are using woke left tactics to cancel people. That makes them the American woke right.

https://x.com/etherXwave/status/1998...361854894?s=20

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Originally Posted by Kalam

It seems the problems are structural. And would exist with or without Jews. And putting Jews in their place without addressing any of the actual issues, while it may make a certain type of person feel good, wont actually fix anything; and is almost sure to make things worse.

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and who put those structures in place -- at least modern-day ones? who runs the treasury and fed, year after year? who dominates all of the cabinets regardless of party? who runs most of our major banks which we have to backstop? who started this mass immigration shit and who just let it loose under the last guy? who benefited most from our wars over the last two decades ? meanwhile we are now broke.


history is rhyming.

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It's not like the non-Jewish people in these positions have done a tremendously better job, but those damn joos keep finding their ways back in.

Hating Jews for rising to a lot of leadership positions is like hating the Asian kids in high school because they keep getting good math scores. When my math, computer science, and engineering classes were mostly Asian-American, I didn't say to myself, "Those damn Asians are taking over! We must get rid of them!" I said to myself, "It's too bad more white American families don't encourage their kids to pursue careers in math, engineering, and computer science."

I can't name any time in my life where I got any kind of edge for being Jewish. My parents were middle-class white collar workers in their 20s when I was born, and their parents were not rich at all. I went to all public schools, even college. I got my jobs by applying to them like everyone else, and no one who ever hired me had any connection to friends or family.

There's been times in life where I felt I probably got a small edge for being white or male (though also times those were disadvantages), but never from being Jewish.

Jews have been successful by applying themselves, staying focused, and having a family strongly stressing education and career.

When you start saying, "Look at the percentage of Jews in Hollywood, look at the percentage of Jews in banking, look at the percentage of Jews in powerful government positions....", you sound just like the lefties who say the US is systemically racist because more black people are incarcerated per capita than white people.

After he made Piers look silly, it got me to thinking do they kill this kid?

They have went at him from every direction and he keeps kicking the shit out of them. Elon takes shots at him on his own platform and gets killed by his own subscribers. They like Nick way more than him even there.

That was interesting last night because you realize this kid is unique in the sense that he legit has nothing to lose. He’s already the most talked about person in that space while being on fucking Rumble.

He can’t be cancelled by anything. In general the more extreme he is the better it’s received. It was comical to watch Piers do the whole gotcha thing that has always worked and he was like so what? I mean he mocked some guy talking about his family who died in the Holocaust. He has zero fear or worry about losing anything.


By the end Piers looked like a boomer losing his shit and the kid is seemingly bulletproof. Call him a fag? So what. Virgin? So are most of these young people.

They were freaked out about this kid already and today was the best day this kid has ever had in his career.

He’s a one off though. He’s uniquely funny and smart. I don’t find anyone else doing the same thing even watchable for 5 minutes. Zero interest in Ian Carroll or any of the others who are temu versions. He reminds me of Trump in that sense. We have seen a bunch of people try to be like him but there isn’t anything close that appeals to his base. I legit think you may solve half the problem from the perspective of Israel or others he antagonizes simply by killing him.

At what point does someone say we can’t let this dude continue to influence everyone under 30 forever?

He very clearly doesn’t like JD and JD is the pick for the technocrats. Being a constant pain to Israel, billionaire technocrats, and the establishment in general doesn’t feel like a recipe for a long life.

Candace pretends like people are trying to kill her but she’s irrelevant in the long run. You don’t have serious people discussing the Candace problem. But they are discussing him.

He’s done that act on a number of outlets, but they were all inside the political bubble outlets.

Piers is more of a mainstream show. The overwhelmingly positive response he got has clearly emboldened him. I see a kid who has now pushed the envelope and been rewarded for it. I don’t think you’ll see any more interviews where he seems more reserved about his opinions. It’s pedal to the metal time going forward.

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That's actually a good description of him:

"The more extreme he is, the better he is received."

He has appeal right now because he's the polar opposite of woke messaging. Wokes find the very best in what they see in oppressed demographics, make excuses for any of their failings, and vilify white males. Fuentes does the opposite of that.

He also does it with a smirk and you can never tell when he's serious. That makes it a lot easier to people to stomach his extreme opinions. If Ben Shapiro comes out and does a 10-minute piece on why women shouldn't be allowed to vote, you think, "Wow... what a misogynistic jerk." If Nick Fuentes quickly rattles off things he doesn't like about women and concludes they shouldn't vote, it's easy to just laugh at him and say, "Oh, this guy's just trolling us! He's being outrageous on purpose!"

That's why it's hard for anything to stick to him. He apologizes for nothing, he gives zero shits, and you never know if he's totally being serious.

But he's an entertainer. That's what people have to realize. An entertainer doesn't offer any kind of realistic solutions or realistic policy. An entertainer can't lead any kind of movement.

This is Fuentes' moment in the sun, but I think he'll fade out. He won't completely disappear, but people will get tired of the schtick, and he'll fade back into just being the leader of the groypers.

He may not even care if that happens. He's actually one of the few who doesn't seem to be in it for the money or the power. He just enjoys trolling everyone and getting attention.