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At this point the top guy probably would be Joba Chamberlain who has pitched well this year in his current role but move him in as a closer and wtf knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Two great starts of shutout ball for 7 or more innings in a row for Sanchez only to get burned by the pen.
Ya I figure him then maybe Al Al nextQuote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPokerAt this point the top guy probably would be Joba Chamberlain who has pitched well this year in his current role but move him in as a closer and wtf knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Two great starts of shutout ball for 7 or more innings in a row for Sanchez only to get burned by the pen.
Last year Tigers slept at the trade deadline. Papelbon was out there - other options too. Not a single rumor floated, nothing. Tigers paid the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPokerAt this point the top guy probably would be Joba Chamberlain who has pitched well this year in his current role but move him in as a closer and wtf knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Two great starts of shutout ball for 7 or more innings in a row for Sanchez only to get burned by the pen.
Hope they button things up this year.
AL Central gonna be quite a battle.
Tigers prolly end the night in 2nd.
Everyone has their theories about Tigers pitching. Haven't seen it said, but I believe the annual workload including post season runs have caught up with them.
No bullpen has repeatedly forced above average work. They are getting a bit older too.
Rookie SS Suarez is a nice surprise and helps correct that disaster for now. The other teams will get a book on him and he'll likely come back to earth. Nice defense. Nice play tonight.
Still got a month for front office to figure it out. Not the lock we thought but the problems are no surprise to anyone either.
Another month we may see an All Rookie infield in Boston. Maybe 6 of 9 players fielded will be rookies at some point. I punted a while ago and have been following College World Series.
Son's team went to College World Series Regional and got bounced. I got roped in by the do or die competitiveness of the games.
Son went off to play collegiate summer baseball after CWS and blew out his elbow during his second start. Let up 7 runs in 3rd and destroyed his ERA. So he's back home.
Off to Boston this week to visit orthopedic "elbow guy".
Kid ain't taking it well so the tension is thick around the house. Good times.
I don't know wtf is going on but after a hot start the Tigers have looked like shit for the past month.
KC is the real deal and could finally get over that hump if Detroit can't their shit together fast.
Verlander and Nathans MPH have trended down 3 years in a row. That is a huge problem
Also Scherzer has been pretty shaky lately
He did pitch his first complete game in history two starts ago but it's sandwiched in between a few busts.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Obviously I'm a Tigers fan but I'm also a realist who will tell it like it is and this team is struggling HARD right now. I didn't expect them to have the start they did but never expected them to collapse this badly anytime this year like they have ever since.
valenti and foster was hilarious today, did you listen bnp?
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Originally Posted by lewfather
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Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
I will repeat cause it appears a remedial lesson is called for:
Everyone has their theories about Tigers pitching. Haven't seen it said, but I believe the annual workload including post season runs have caught up with them.
No bullpen has repeatedly forced above average work. Tigers are killing their starters.
The following stat better not come as a surprise to you. I also bet you have an intuition about the previous couple of seasons.
Verlander 111.6 pitches per start - #1 in MLB
Scherzer 109.1 #4
There's a great first half plan. Stick with that. If you make playoffs there will be nothing left.
Nothing has changed with relief. Nothing last year and probably nothing this year. I think it is not being too simplistic. I hated the failure to solve light hitting shortstop too. That is more indicative of the weak front office.
Edit: I know about Suarez... but it took way too long and other immediate fixes were out there.
Sports talk will be great Lew. The AL Central is ultra competiive top to bottom and will be a great race to finish.
Bonus:
Mentioned it before. But if you like money always check out the under when Red Sox are pitching their front line guys. Great pitching and zero offense. Not perfect but hugely profitable.
http://m.mlb.com/video/v34184387/oak...for-the-tigers
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG
The call on the play on the radio was much better, but good to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lewfather
Koji Uehara threw a splitter in the dirt that struck out Jose Iglesias for the final out of last years ALCS. He continues to be dominant.
He's 39 years old and has a one year $4.25MM contract.
The Red Sox and their "all rookie lineup" lose to the mighty Cubs tonight. Uehara will only serve to help Sox finish at .500 end of season.
Chicks dig the long ball and Grand Slams must make you all wet down there.
But pitching wins in the playoffs. Do you dare risk a reprise of last season?
Does Detroit have anything to offer in the farm system as trade?
Let's face it, this is the year or bust. The rotation ain't gonna be this strong next year. Hunter & Martinez will file for social security in November.
Let's do business.
Porcello sick as fuck with back to back shutouts.
Porcello is GODing it up hard. His stats line today is really unheard of with a complete game having no strikeouts and no walks.
Here is his last three starts:
Wherever he went to learn to pitch he should recommend to JV asap.
Porcello better make the all star game imo.
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/07/...-the-as-audio/Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsThe call on the play on the radio was much better, but good to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lewfather
Billy Beane didn't wait til July 31 trade deadline to make his move. He traded his farm system & is going for broke. The perennial playoff loser is loading up for the Tigers matchup.
Oakland and Chicago announced the big trade on Saturday, with Samardzija and Hammel heading to the West Coast for a package of prospects that included the A's first-round selections in each of the past two drafts.
Samardzija won tonight vs Toronto.
So what have the Tigers done.....
Talk has Joaquin Benoit going back to Detroit. Wasn't so great in last year's Playoffs.
Uehara's swing & miss rate in relief is so sick. If Tigers got Uehara, I would be all-in. But I found these stats and Benoit isn't that far behind.
It's all about the splitter baby
2013 Huge 500 pitch sample Uehara
2014 Benoit is looking good. Koji has better V & H Movement & much bigger sample size.
Tigers need a left handed bat after Victor Martinez. Regular season is fun but it's all about the match ups in playoffs.
WTF is going on in Detroit BNP & Lew? Usually GM's wait til the last minute to catch declining value. If Mr Moneyball value guy moved now and gave up a ton maybe the waiting game ain't gonna work this year.
The Red Sox elected not to field a team this year and I took a flier on Tigers winning it all in 2014 last November.
Don't wanna be broke & a Dodgers fan.
Justin Verlander sure does suck. Kate Upton not going to put up being with a loser like that.
Game was billed as World Series preview.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
Puig is god. Hunter have any clue?
Good news. Fun game, so far.
Bad news. Game will be won or lost in relief.
Edit
Ryu game ERA something like 23.10.
Tigers bats have woke up and are beating the Dodgers pen up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
This game is only in the 5th inning so I will be interested to see totals line tomorrow. It might be worth hammering the over with a roughed up Dodgers pen and an always shaky Tigers pen.
Tigers have scored 34 runs last three games. Ridiculous... Includes 1st place opponent, Dodgers.
But the pitching thing just looks ready to implode. Not playoff ready pitching and that's what takes it down in post season. I used to think pitching when I thought of Tigers but the numbers tell another story.
BNP do not consider any unders when the Tigers are involved, obviously. Never.
Gonna pick up MLB package after All Star break for half price. Boston had five rookies starting the other day. Just decided not to field a team this year.
really wondered why the sox were so adamant on trading lackey. pitchers of his talent for only 500k next year do not exist, unless they're young and team controlled.
i don't know much about that craig dude,...but i can vividly remember colby rasmus being moved,,and he's been pretty lousy, outside of last years fluke......lackey is a #1/2 pitcher, and pitching to an era in the 3's an the AL will translate lower, maybe much lower.
i don;t think i would have traded lackey. you can;t find pitching like that unless you pay big and offer many years..redsox miight not be able to contend next year
Meet the Tigers future center fielder Ezequiel Carrera. Austin Jackson wouldn't make this catch.
http://m.mlb.com/det/video/topic/700...atch/?c_id=det
Let me check my cards. Ok, I raise you.
http://youtu.be/mKxfLSnqZwA
Kid's an automatic out. But he's is spectacular in the field.
Absolutely useless at the plate but has a WAR of 1.5 cause he is a nightly highlight reel.
JV pitching tonight and doing okay so far #waitsfortheblowup. Before the game the other day he made sure he gets some ass that night.
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/6BD...Lsy.OxCpZJT9xn
Decided to add the Tiger to my proline today. They can't lose every time right?
LOL this team will not do shit come post season. 3-1 on my parlay of early games. Thanks pussycats.
Tigers can score 10 runs one game and then 0 the next at the higher frequency then any team in baseball. They get cold bats for a few games in a row then all the sudden torch teams then rinse and repeat which very well could be what fucks them in the playoffs (assuming they get there) if it's not the bullpen.
It's all good, my Jays cost me my evening proline. 3-1 on both. at least i'm picking hot.
Go eat a dick Joe Nathan you washed up hack.
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Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
tigers curse
Song remains the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
But offense averages of 1.4 runs last 5 games, really?
Yes really! Tigers go through these horrific hitting slumps all the time and they last a few games. If they make the playoffs and do that they will be bounced out in whatever round it happens in.Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarSong remains the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker
But offense averages of 1.4 runs last 5 games, really?
As a Tiger fan that is almost as much of a fear I have with the cold bats then the bullpen.
Change thread title to jays > tigers
Cabrera is having a (relatively) terrible year. He might actually have an OPS under .900. Amazing.
He ran good today. At one point I was like dang look at Cabrera go but he is having a down year for sure even if he's still hitting above .300Quote:
Originally Posted by ToasterOven
I've never seen a player do this before but Puig breaks his bat on a check swing:
http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/1149321...ue-check-swing
lol
17th inning. Who's watching
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Originally Posted by simpdog
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