*** Official WSOP 2013 Discussion/Rail Thread

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

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Originally Posted by simpdog

@ToddWitteles 5h
Lol I put up DnD sign, call 4 times, tell maid "Nobody come in my room", I come up at break, 2 Rio employees in my room. #pfa62

@ToddWitteles 5h
Maid tells me "Supervisor made me do it". Guess next time I'll call 5 times about it. #pfa62

@ToddWitteles 3m
Tilt checked out of the Rio & went elsewhere. Now time to get back the 17k I chunked off (in 20 min) #pfa62

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Originally Posted by simpdog

LOL only Druff would tilt check out of the Rio during break of the most important tourney of the year for maids being in his room.

Also only Druff would phone 4 times saying nobody come in his room.

I see a 2 hour radio segment on this, starting with a recap of why he did this (due to the other rio issue he discussed last radio where someone stole shit).

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I want to cry after reading that.


Just his way I guess, but the ME dinner break and life itself is way to short for shit like that.

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not so much cry but defiantly made me sick to my stomach..... talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. just asking the maids to leave and dealing with it after would have been better msbe? i defiantly would be pissed off as well, and would have pissed all over the carpet and left a big shit in the middle of the bathroom for them to cleen up after i checked out.

Jungleman must have been playing next to Jasep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhNgEPtZx14

The Rio-employees-busting-through-the-DnD sign is an ongoing hassle for me, and one I deal with every time I stay there.

I was exaggerating about the 4 phone calls. In reality, I made this request at check-in, and then called it in again to verify (and of course, the check-in request had fallen off) yesterday. After spending some time on the phone with them, they guaranteed me that nobody would be entering my room. This was BEFORE Day 2 of the Main.

On the way to the Main today, I saw the maid in the hallway. I reminded her that I didn't want any service. She agreed.

When I came up there during the first break (mainly because the bathrooms were jammed), the maid and some maintenance dude had just entered the room. I asked, "What happened to not entering?", and the maid was really apologetic.

"My supervisor... he made me... he made me. I tell him what you say, he make me come in anyway!"

I believed her.

Anyway, I had enough at this point. I deal with this every time I stay there for more than 3 days. They have an obsession with entering the room and busting through the DnD sign. No matter what I do or say, it always happens. I was just sick of it, and I hit my breaking point when I saw it happen yet again. Hotels need to respect guests' privacy. The Rio is the absolute worst with this. Oddly, Caesar's does NOT have this problem.

Since I had 90 minutes for dinner (which was much more than I needed, since I just grabbed some take-out from the American Bar and Grill), I said "fuck it", checked out, and went elsewhere.

Here is my report on Day 2 of the Main:

http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...l=1#post176950

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

The Rio-employees-busting-through-the-DnD sign is an ongoing hassle for me, and one I deal with every time I stay there.

I was exaggerating about the 4 phone calls. In reality, I made this request at check-in, and then called it in again to verify (and of course, the check-in request had fallen off) yesterday. After spending some time on the phone with them, they guaranteed me that nobody would be entering my room. This was BEFORE Day 2 of the Main.

On the way to the Main today, I saw the maid in the hallway. I reminded her that I didn't want any service. She agreed.

When I came up there during the first break (mainly because the bathrooms were jammed), the maid and some maintenance dude had just entered the room. I asked, "What happened to not entering?", and the maid was really apologetic.

"My supervisor... he made me... he made me. I tell him what you say, he make me come in anyway!"

I believed her.

Anyway, I had enough at this point. I deal with this every time I stay there for more than 3 days. They have an obsession with entering the room and busting through the DnD sign. No matter what I do or say, it always happens. I was just sick of it, and I hit my breaking point when I saw it happen yet again. Hotels need to respect guests' privacy. The Rio is the absolute worst with this. Oddly, Caesar's does NOT have this problem.

Since I had 90 minutes for dinner (which was much more than I needed, since I just grabbed some take-out from the American Bar and Grill), I said "fuck it", checked out, and went elsewhere.

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I CANT FUCKING STAND when hotels do this. I also never understood why they do this and why they care if you get your room cleaned or not. Many times I will stay 2 nights in a place and never get the room cleaned. This isnt because I dont like a clean room. It is because it would be a complete disaster if someone stole my laptop.

The only times they should open the door with the DND sign on is a. Maintenace emergency or b. they have not heard from you in 48 hours and need to make sure you are not dead. c. Loud screaming indicating someone is being hurt. Other than that, they need to kindly fuck off.

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Originally Posted by cmoney

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

The Rio-employees-busting-through-the-DnD sign is an ongoing hassle for me, and one I deal with every time I stay there.

I was exaggerating about the 4 phone calls. In reality, I made this request at check-in, and then called it in again to verify (and of course, the check-in request had fallen off) yesterday. After spending some time on the phone with them, they guaranteed me that nobody would be entering my room. This was BEFORE Day 2 of the Main.

On the way to the Main today, I saw the maid in the hallway. I reminded her that I didn't want any service. She agreed.

When I came up there during the first break (mainly because the bathrooms were jammed), the maid and some maintenance dude had just entered the room. I asked, "What happened to not entering?", and the maid was really apologetic.

"My supervisor... he made me... he made me. I tell him what you say, he make me come in anyway!"

I believed her.

Anyway, I had enough at this point. I deal with this every time I stay there for more than 3 days. They have an obsession with entering the room and busting through the DnD sign. No matter what I do or say, it always happens. I was just sick of it, and I hit my breaking point when I saw it happen yet again. Hotels need to respect guests' privacy. The Rio is the absolute worst with this. Oddly, Caesar's does NOT have this problem.

Since I had 90 minutes for dinner (which was much more than I needed, since I just grabbed some take-out from the American Bar and Grill), I said "fuck it", checked out, and went elsewhere.

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I CANT FUCKING STAND when hotels do this. I also never understood why they do this and why they care if you get your room cleaned or not. Many times I will stay 2 nights in a place and never get the room cleaned. This isnt because I dont like a clean room. It is because it would be a complete disaster if someone stole my laptop.

The only times they should open the door with the DND sign on is a. Maintenace emergency or b. they have not heard from you in 48 hours and need to make sure you are not dead. c. Loud screaming indicating someone is being hurt. Other than that, they need to kindly fuck off.

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You two should never ever go to China.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

The Rio-employees-busting-through-the-DnD sign is an ongoing hassle for me, and one I deal with every time I stay there.

I was exaggerating about the 4 phone calls. In reality, I made this request at check-in, and then called it in again to verify (and of course, the check-in request had fallen off) yesterday. After spending some time on the phone with them, they guaranteed me that nobody would be entering my room. This was BEFORE Day 2 of the Main.

On the way to the Main today, I saw the maid in the hallway. I reminded her that I didn't want any service. She agreed.

When I came up there during the first break (mainly because the bathrooms were jammed), the maid and some maintenance dude had just entered the room. I asked, "What happened to not entering?", and the maid was really apologetic.

"My supervisor... he made me... he made me. I tell him what you say, he make me come in anyway!"

I believed her.

Anyway, I had enough at this point. I deal with this every time I stay there for more than 3 days. They have an obsession with entering the room and busting through the DnD sign. No matter what I do or say, it always happens. I was just sick of it, and I hit my breaking point when I saw it happen yet again. Hotels need to respect guests' privacy. The Rio is the absolute worst with this. Oddly, Caesar's does NOT have this problem.

Since I had 90 minutes for dinner (which was much more than I needed, since I just grabbed some take-out from the American Bar and Grill), I said "fuck it", checked out, and went elsewhere.

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Soooo...you are fucking 7* and stay at the dump that is known as the Rio? Pleeeeease...they have to do their crack-checks over there...why not just take a Caesars Augustus Tower room, problem solved? That 10$ Taxi from the Augustus entrance to the Rio most likely won't ruin you...

Too bad a mass boycott from poker players of actually staying in the Rio at the WSOP next year couldn't be arranged after all these instances this summer.

start jerkin one step as.

tom dwan just did a interview with the super hot poker news girl Lynn Gilmarten.
not a real good interview but the first ive seen for quite a while


not sure how to imbed this so link only........
http://www.pokernews.com/video/wsop-...event-8060.htm

Haralabos Voulgaris was on the pokernews podcast earlier today and was very entertaining. He tells a story of a girl who tried to get someone dq'ed from the main event whom they don't mention her name on the podcast but all the hints definitely give it away that it's Barry Shulman's wife Allyn Jaffrey Shulman. She is miserable to play with and then later on Haralabob owns her hard in a pot when he sucks out when she let him get there super cheap.

Haralabob = GOD

Here's the link about 27 minutes in when Haralabos is on:

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2013/0...at-h-15910.htm

Please help me with the players at my table if you can:

http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...l=1#post177942

TY

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Please help me with the players at my table if you can:

http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...l=1#post177942

TY

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Todd Witteles is a bracelet winner. Easily tilt him by telling him stories about poor customer service...especially about RIO maids being in your room during breaks after you went out of your way to tell them not to clean your room.

Finished up on others in other thread. Looks like a decent table

Chip leader plays my normal 33 and 55 dollar tournaments at the local casino. Mark Kroon. He has increased his chipstack to over 700k, i am getting text updates as I have a piece of him!

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Here is my report on Day 2 of the Main:

http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...l=1#post176950

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I just lost my write up but it was basically about how you played that aa hand so badly with the 4 flush, and your thinking about hands is prehistoric. If you're interested I'll do a big writeup on the hand and how you fail to use your image to capitalize.

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Originally Posted by PokerPrince2

Chip leader plays my normal 33 and 55 dollar tournaments at the local casino. Mark Kroon. He has increased his chipstack to over 700k, i am getting text updates as I have a piece of him!

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Thats Poker Ho

yes it is

JRB came into today with over 300k in chips I believe and well:

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Jean-Robert Bellande ‏@BrokeLivingJRB 13m
Dbld a guy up w ak vs his kt. Then next hand ran KK into AA aipf. Lost my stack. Boo. 40000. #brokewithnochips

Jean-Robert Bellande ‏@BrokeLivingJRB 2m
And I'm out. Shoved my short stack w 55 ran into aq. Super sick level.

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This is the ESPN feature table prior to JRB bust. Random draw? LOL

http://www.pokernews.com/live-report...hips.68791.htm

Druff needs a double up asap.

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Todd Witteles ‏@ToddWitteles 18s
Lol I get JJ in the BB and it folds around to me for the first time today. 88700. #pfa62

Todd Witteles ‏@ToddWitteles 22m
Humberto Brenes just sat in seat 7. Looks like he has about 165. I have 89100, still card dead. 1134 left #pfa62

Todd Witteles ‏@ToddWitteles 28m
Old man just shot it off in a bad spot, once again only fish at the table is gone. #pfa62

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In other news Big Red has a lot of chips:

http://pnimg.net/lrep/1837/44/b4d1cc954d9.jpg

http://www.scorchio.co.uk/images/wrigleys_big_red.jpg

Ivey out.

33 vs TT on AT3 board

Sorry for your bust Druff from the Main but from reading tweets you got royally coolered and were card dead alot.

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Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker

Sorry for your bust Druff from the Main but from reading tweets you got royally coolered and were card dead alot.

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Yeah tough break Druff, but at least on the whole you can look at the entire WSOP and be one of the...5% maybe of people who walked away with an overall profit at the end of all the tourneys.

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Originally Posted by PokerPrince2

Chip leader plays my normal 33 and 55 dollar tournaments at the local casino. Mark Kroon. He has increased his chipstack to over 700k, i am getting text updates as I have a piece of him!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=h2TRj-BN0rw

Lock Pros crushing it in the WSOP Main Event:

Bryan Pellegrino (PrimordialAA) 752k
Annette Obrestad 564k
Melanie Weisner 536k
Michael Mizrachi 379.5k

Also alive:

Matt Stout 140.5k
Felipe Ramos 115k

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Originally Posted by PokerPrince2

Chip leader plays my normal 33 and 55 dollar tournaments at the local casino. Mark Kroon. He has increased his chipstack to over 700k, i am getting text updates as I have a piece of him!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=h2TRj-BN0rw

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Have played at many tables/tourneys with this guy at his bar back in the day. Very talkative, likable, affable person. Hope he does well..

Don't forget that Mark Kroon was a UB pro from the beginning until the end.

I will concede that he was always a nice guy when I interacted with him in person. Speaking of almost-cashes in big events, I had a brutal one the one time I played the Aruba UB event. I had A4 on a Q44 flop. A 74-year-old man flatted me with K4 from the SB, we got it in, and he hit the K on the turn to bust me. This was very close to the money. Anyway, when it happened, Kroon came over to me, told me he legitimately felt bad for me, and said that he thought I had played great during the tournament. I thought it was very nice, since I barely knew him, and he wasn't even at my table. (He had been watching from the rail.)

I did lose some respect for him when he stayed on after the scandal hit. He was part of that original crop of UB pros -- guys with not-so-great lifetime tournament stats, who got in good with the right people and held a sweet position on the 3rd largest poker site. Remember Shawn Rice, mentioned on the UB tapes, who called Russ and allegedly said he wanted to keep his job despite the scandal? I have to imagine Kroon was in kind of the same spot. There's no way he was completely ignorant to everything going on there.

At the same time, people like Rice and Kroon weren't heavily promoting UB, nor were they big name pros that would attract people to the site. They were just... there. But they still should have left. I know it's hard to turn down free money when it's tough to make a living in the high-variance world of poker, but still...

And yeah, I noticed that the Lock Pros are doing well this year. Kinda sickening.

Annette has a really arrogant look to her now that she has dropped the weight.

I love how she completely ignores the Lock issues people bring up to her. Even The Grinder gave it some lame lip service. She wouldn't even do that much.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Here is my report on Day 2 of the Main:

http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...l=1#post176950

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I just lost my write up but it was basically about how you played that aa hand so badly with the 4 flush, and your thinking about hands is prehistoric. If you're interested I'll do a big writeup on the hand and how you fail to use your image to capitalize.

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I would be interested in the writeup (post it in the World Series forum if you can), but I am especially curious of what you think my "image" is.

Are you referring to the Day 1 image I had of someone who could be easily run off hands, because I was folding so much? I did capitalize on that, which is why that French guy shot off 27k (a lot at the time) with middle pair.

If you are referring to an image of a tight nit, you are incorrect because that's not usually the image people have of me at the table. While I am not seen as a young, aggressive internet guy, I am also not seen as a super-tight, nitty older guy either. I am seen somewhat in the middle. This varies from day to day based upon the cards I'm dealt and the makeup of the table, but I think you are guessing my image incorrectly.

I am also interested to hear about how I played that AA hand "so badly", when I believe I charged the guy the maximum (without committing myself in case he had flopped it) for chasing the flush, and then folding when he got there. I am not being sarcastic here, and would like to see your take on it. I do not regret that hand at all, and would be shocked if the guy didn't really have the flush there given the way everything went down.

You are totally right on that regard. Just basing my observation on personal interaction.

His personal friendship with Phil Helmuth (Player's Bar original) definitely dragged him into the UB sponsorship.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Don't forget that Mark Kroon was a UB pro from the beginning until the end.

I will concede that he was always a nice guy when I interacted with him in person. Speaking of almost-cashes in big events, I had a brutal one the one time I played the Aruba UB event. I had A4 on a Q44 flop. A 74-year-old man flatted me with K4 from the SB, we got it in, and he hit the K on the turn to bust me. This was very close to the money. Anyway, when it happened, Kroon came over to me, told me he legitimately felt bad for me, and said that he thought I had played great during the tournament. I thought it was very nice, since I barely knew him, and he wasn't even at my table. (He had been watching from the rail.)

I did lose some respect for him when he stayed on after the scandal hit. He was part of that original crop of UB pros -- guys with not-so-great lifetime tournament stats, who got in good with the right people and held a sweet position on the 3rd largest poker site. Remember Shawn Rice, mentioned on the UB tapes, who called Russ and allegedly said he wanted to keep his job despite the scandal? I have to imagine Kroon was in kind of the same spot. There's no way he was completely ignorant to everything going on there.

At the same time, people like Rice and Kroon weren't heavily promoting UB, nor were they big name pros that would attract people to the site. They were just... there. But they still should have left. I know it's hard to turn down free money when it's tough to make a living in the high-variance world of poker, but still...

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BTW, Shady J, before you do your write-up, I don't know how many WSOP events you have played, and I'm not saying that to be condescending or anything.

I am saying it because they play differently than other live tournaments, and especially different from online tournaments.

One thing that's very tough to do at the WSOP is run people off hands. Not only do people "have it" a good percentage of the time, but they are very stubborn about folding, and hate thinking they are being bluffed off. Sure, occasionally you will get a shocking fold from a good hand (where they show you or tell you), but for the most part, if you are trying to use a tight/solid image to make moves when you have crap, for the most part it will backfire. I say this because I watch it happen time and time again, and am left scratching my head how people blow off chips with no hand/no draw, thinking they will push someone else off a real hand. I saw an otherwise solid player today do just that -- blow off a 70k stack with ace-high no draw, simply because he thought a bet on the turn was full of shit. He was wrong, and that was that.

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I just lost my write up but it was basically about how you played that aa hand so badly with the 4 flush, and your thinking about hands is prehistoric. If you're interested I'll do a big writeup on the hand and how you fail to use your image to capitalize.

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I would be interested in the writeup (post it in the World Series forum if you can), but I am especially curious of what you think my "image" is.

Are you referring to the Day 1 image I had of someone who could be easily run off hands, because I was folding so much? I did capitalize on that, which is why that French guy shot off 27k (a lot at the time) with middle pair.

If you are referring to an image of a tight nit, you are incorrect because that's not usually the image people have of me at the table. While I am not seen as a young, aggressive internet guy, I am also not seen as a super-tight, nitty older guy either. I am seen somewhat in the middle. This varies from day to day based upon the cards I'm dealt and the makeup of the table, but I think you are guessing my image incorrectly.

I am also interested to hear about how I played that AA hand "so badly", when I believe I charged the guy the maximum (without committing myself in case he had flopped it) for chasing the flush, and then folding when he got there. I am not being sarcastic here, and would like to see your take on it. I do not regret that hand at all, and would be shocked if the guy didn't really have the flush there given the way everything went down.

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Isnt this the world series thread?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I would be interested in the writeup (post it in the World Series forum if you can), but I am especially curious of what you think my "image" is.

Are you referring to the Day 1 image I had of someone who could be easily run off hands, because I was folding so much? I did capitalize on that, which is why that French guy shot off 27k (a lot at the time) with middle pair.

If you are referring to an image of a tight nit, you are incorrect because that's not usually the image people have of me at the table. While I am not seen as a young, aggressive internet guy, I am also not seen as a super-tight, nitty older guy either. I am seen somewhat in the middle. This varies from day to day based upon the cards I'm dealt and the makeup of the table, but I think you are guessing my image incorrectly.

I am also interested to hear about how I played that AA hand "so badly", when I believe I charged the guy the maximum (without committing myself in case he had flopped it) for chasing the flush, and then folding when he got there. I am not being sarcastic here, and would like to see your take on it. I do not regret that hand at all, and would be shocked if the guy didn't really have the flush there given the way everything went down.

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Isnt this the world series thread?

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There is a World Series forum where I have a thread for the Main Event, but people are posting a lot in this thread, too.

BTW Shady J just PM'd me and apparently he misunderstood me on radio discussing the AA 4-spade hand from Day 1, so disregard all of that discussion. He thought I checked the turn, which I agree would have been terrible.

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Isnt this the world series thread?

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There is a World Series forum where I have a thread for the Main Event, but people are posting a lot in this thread, too.

BTW Shady J just PM'd me and apparently he misunderstood me on radio discussing the AA 4-spade hand from Day 1, so disregard all of that discussion. He thought I checked the turn, which I agree would have been terrible.

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Yes my bad. Next time I criticize someone I'll know the facts first.....hopefully

Matt Marafioti is still in too

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In one of the biggest hands of the tournament so far, we saw Luke Schwartz take a monster beat for a pot that would've made him the chip leader. The aftermath of the hand earned Schwartz a one round penalty.

Josh Pollock opened from middle position. Action folded around to Schwartz, who reraised in the small blind . Action folded back to Pollock and he put in a fourth bet which was 37,000 more. Schwartz then put in a fifth bet for 60,000 more and action was back to Pollock. He went deep into the tank for almost 2 minutes before finally announcing that he was all in for a total of 349,000 more. Schwartz snap called.

Schwartz: A A
Pollock: K K

It was a classic cooler situation and since he was on the favorable end, Schwartz pulled out $200 from his pocket and laid it in the dealer's tray. "This is for you," he said.

"I can't accept this right now," the dealer said.

Perhaps Schwartz was hoping for some good fortune so he would be able to fade a king with his tip to the dealer. Unfortunately for him the flop came down 2 K 10 . Schwartz stood up from the table and let out a huge, exasperated sigh. He began pacing around the tan section of the Amazon room, knocking over chairs, kicking tables and even tearing down a curtain in his path.

The board completed with a 5 and a Q and Schwartz came back to the table just to make sure he hadn't hit the ace.

"Wow," he said. "What a f***ing joke."

After the hand and the chips were cut out, a floor moved over to Schwartz's table and issued him a one round penalty for his behavior after the hand.

The huge pot set Pollock up to 835,000 in chips while Schwartz was knocked down to under 400,000.

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:lol3

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In one of the biggest hands of the tournament so far, we saw Luke Schwartz take a monster beat for a pot that would've made him the chip leader. The aftermath of the hand earned Schwartz a one round penalty.

Josh Pollock opened from middle position. Action folded around to Schwartz, who reraised in the small blind . Action folded back to Pollock and he put in a fourth bet which was 37,000 more. Schwartz then put in a fifth bet for 60,000 more and action was back to Pollock. He went deep into the tank for almost 2 minutes before finally announcing that he was all in for a total of 349,000 more. Schwartz snap called.

Schwartz: A A
Pollock: K K

It was a classic cooler situation and since he was on the favorable end, Schwartz pulled out $200 from his pocket and laid it in the dealer's tray. "This is for you," he said.

"I can't accept this right now," the dealer said.

Perhaps Schwartz was hoping for some good fortune so he would be able to fade a king with his tip to the dealer. Unfortunately for him the flop came down 2 K 10 . Schwartz stood up from the table and let out a huge, exasperated sigh. He began pacing around the tan section of the Amazon room, knocking over chairs, kicking tables and even tearing down a curtain in his path.

The board completed with a 5 and a Q and Schwartz came back to the table just to make sure he hadn't hit the ace.

"Wow," he said. "What a f***ing joke."

After the hand and the chips were cut out, a floor moved over to Schwartz's table and issued him a one round penalty for his behavior after the hand.

The huge pot set Pollock up to 835,000 in chips while Schwartz was knocked down to under 400,000.

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looks a little familiar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ljx5lET9Cs

dudes crazy

Mark Newhouse is one of the chipleaders at the dinner break.





props for the Phil Lesh and Friends shirt

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Mark Newhouse is one of the chipleaders at the dinner break.





props for the Phil Lesh and Friends shirt

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Yeah, he's on my Facebook and showed a picture of his stack, showing like 1.2-1.3 million at dinner break.

Hope he does well, he's actually a very nice guy. I just hope some of his scumbag/degen Commerce friends don't squeeze all the money out of him again.

http://youtu.be/3Kc9y5ySTAY

Brett Richey also one of the chip leaders, which likely means anyone following MeeCoin on Twitter will have to witness a spectacular amount of tweets where he slobbers all over Brett's knob.

Brett Richey the best kept secret. Next on his wrist two bracelets, three bracelets, get wasted!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyBCDv8GXTs