**OFFICIAL Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph (Joe) R. Biden Thread - 2020 Presidential Election**

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Originally Posted by BCR

People who opine on Ohio don’t grasp the population shift and how it has almost no correlation to PA, MI, and Wisconsin at this point when we are talking Trump.

Trump can lose it in a landslide. It can be a bellwether again depending on the candidate, but if Ohio goes blue, it’s a landslide.

If it was Ted Cruz, he’d get 30% here in the NE. These aren’t converted Republicans here, they just love Trump. Think of split. She hates a Dewine who is a lifelong fiscal conservative who balanced the budget during a pandemic. She isn’t a Republican. She is a Trumper.

Trump wins counties. Cruz would get 30% here and need to pile up votes in Columbus. NE Ohio elected Jim Trafficant by 70% margins. We are corrupt. That’s in our DNA. Mussolini would get 78% here. We love populists and Ted Cruz would just be some hillbilly Mexican to all the Italian guys I know while they love Trump like he’s Rocky Balboa.

There is no Philadelphia or Detroit in Ohio. Nothing similar as far as population distribution.

So it makes the whole state Trumps to a degree, as all the population has moved south over decades. We aren’t talking white flight to suburbs. We are talking a 3 hour move. Like if everyone from South Florida moved to Northern Florida, eventually the politics of that area would gradually convert a number of then. It was Texas and twice Georgia margins in 2016.

It’s not that red for anyone but Trump, and won’t be this time, but it doesn’t correlate to PA and Michigan. I lived in PA for 15 years. I worked for GM and was in Michigan constantly. I understand those states. Trump can book the smallest win or a big loss in those states. Trump can book a decent sized win or a small loss in Ohio in a landslide scenario.

I don’t know Wisconsin or understand it and it makes me nervous.

I’m not overly confident at all about the election. I said 65/35 last week, now I’d say 55/45 after a decent debate and a few weeks removed from his disaster week of horrible debate plus getting Covid himself after mocking it. He’d get slaughtered that week. In ten days? Early voting makes me feel a little better.

I’m a pessimist though. I saw more Biden signs in my buddies affluent Columbus suburb than Trump. Total departure from last time. Trump will win the state by probably 2-4%, not over 8%, and logic dictates that means those other 3 states he won all by under 1% will likely fall blue.

Ohio only correlates in the sense anywhere correlates. If Trump wins Georgia by 2% instead of 5, he’s likely to lose PA and Michigan also. It correlates not in some rust belt regional way, it only correlates just like any trend anywhere correlates.

If Georgia is only 2 rather than 5, that means black people are showing for Biden a little more and voting traditionally which means Philly and Detroit probably see a similar uptick. If Trump wins Florida by less than last time, it means old white people like Biden and that probably helps in Wisconsin. Everything correlates, but Ohio isn’t some barometer of the other 3. Think of it like college football. Does Ohio State seem more like an SEC program or Wisconsin? If you know the fans, they are far more similar to fans of Bama or Georgia than Michigan or Wisconsin. That’s where all the people are at in Ohio.

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2 to 4% in Ohio? WTF? You know the state better than me since you live there. But this looks like 8+ for Trump. In the "Blue Wave" in 2018, the Governor won easily, correct? I put Blue Wave in quotes because the Senate gained R seats in 2018, and generally the House usually reverses after a Presidential election. The reversal was much worse under Obama but the media forgets that.

As far as MI goes, I stand by what I have said all along, Trump has a great shot. Detroit no longer controls the state, partly because there are less than 700,000 people in the city now. The rural voters are gaining much more influence.

Trafalgar is convinced Trump will get 270-289 EVs. I know the liberal media and bettors dismiss his group because they are all in on Biden. But he was spot on in 2016. People say it was a fluke, we shall see in 11 days. As it stands now, Trump is going to sweep the south, probably carry Arizona. There was a reason why Obama was in Philadelphia this week and not in NC, FL or AZ. This reminds me when Jay Z and Hillary did a concert in PA the week before the election.

The fact Trump raised $26M the day after the debate means he is closing.

The one thing is this, if Trump wins this go around, polling in effectively ruined and destroyed forever.

Trying to figure out how Trump is poised to win a blow out victory in FL and Ohio, yet is going to lose the election. Florida is done, that is going to go huge to Trump now. Looks like this Senior vote defection was a media driven event.

Like I said, it really is strange out of all the places Obama could have went, he was in Philadelphia. Odd.

It’s possible he wins as big, but he certainly seems less popular with older people and it’s an old state. Also he lived here last election. Watching football today, it was all Biden all day. He is spending his time in PA because he needs it and figures he’ll win Ohio or be fucked anyway. 4 is a big win in a tight election. Obama beat Romney by 3.9 in 12. It was never in doubt, but 8+ was kind of an outlier it felt given he lived here every week. I think it’s going to be way bigger turnout, so that plays with the math a bit even if you win by almost the same number of votes.

anyone posted the video of hunter biden smoking crack while getting a footjob yet? https://gtv.org/web/?videoid=5f94837...e25667c0fda196

Lol came here to ask who's seen the Hunter Biden sex tape.

The early voting factor may end up being huge.

The Hunter Biden stuff and the oil stuff might actually have some effect. If Trump succeeds in convincing people that Biden is corrupt, that can frustrate a lot of people away from the polls -- which benefits Trump, because he's always led in base enthusiasm. This election is basically Trump versus anti-Trump, and if the anti-Trump side doesn't show up as much, that's a big win for Trump.

However, the campaign was flailing badly 2-3 weeks ago, and that's when a lot of people placed their votes. If early voting wasn't allowed this year, Trump would have a much better chance.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

The early voting factor may end up being huge.

The Hunter Biden stuff and the oil stuff might actually have some effect. If Trump succeeds in convincing people that Biden is corrupt, that can frustrate a lot of people away from the polls -- which benefits Trump, because he's always led in base enthusiasm. This election is basically Trump versus anti-Trump, and if the anti-Trump side doesn't show up as much, that's a big win for Trump.

However, the campaign was flailing badly 2-3 weeks ago, and that's when a lot of people placed their votes. If early voting wasn't allowed this year, Trump would have a much better chance.

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No for a number of reasons. Historical data shows presidential debates have little or no effect on voters. Why? Because a four year track record cannot be undone in a couple of months.

The Hunter Biden "scandal" while still unproven must be compared with the
Trump team scandals which are very much proven

Here are eight Trump associates arrested or convicted of crimes

Steve Bannon ---Wall fraud charges
Roger Stone- --- false statements, witness tampering Trump commuted sentence
Paul Manafort --- money laundering, witness tampering etc 7 and a half years
Michael Cohen -- lying to Congress, hush money scheme
Michael Flynn --- lying to the FBI about his interactions with Russia’s ambassador
Rick Gates ----- conspiracy against the United States and lying to investigators
George Papadopoulos ---lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian officials
George Nader pleaded ---guilty to possessing child pornography
and bringing a boy to the United States for sex.

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Originally Posted by BCR

It’s possible he wins as big, but he certainly seems less popular with older people and it’s an old state. Also he lived here last election. Watching football today, it was all Biden all day. He is spending his time in PA because he needs it and figures he’ll win Ohio or be fucked anyway. 4 is a big win in a tight election. Obama beat Romney by 3.9 in 12. It was never in doubt, but 8+ was kind of an outlier it felt given he lived here every week. I think it’s going to be way bigger turnout, so that plays with the math a bit even if you win by almost the same number of votes.

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I think it is positively ridiculous you think Biden will win Ohio, or within 4 points. Sure, anything is possible in life, but Ohio is red, and becoming deep red. As far as older people you cite, sure they are pissed at Trump, but they will still pull the lever for him. The virus? Give me a break, no old person I know gives a shit, they know they are thin ice anyways, we all get to the finish line.

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Originally Posted by BiffCo99

https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/statu...53925414363137

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Are you proud of not understanding probability?

That tweet is kinda correct, though.

You can't really brag about forecasting something 30/70 and the 30% hitting. At best, he can take credit for putting the 30% a lot higher than outlets like the NY Times, which had it at like 4%.

However, when upsets occur, it's not really fair to brag about having seen it as 30% to hit. As the tweet pointed out, Silver could brag on either side of this, regardless of the 2016 results.

aaaand here come the ex girlfriends


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Intellectual party.

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Intellectual party.

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The Republicans are already on the moon, it's the only explanation for their behavior.

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Intellectual party.

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The Republicans are already on the moon, it's the only explanation for their behavior.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goh2x_G0ct4

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yes, trump is literally campaigning with a fake melania.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

aaaand here come the ex girlfriends


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Recall when she was dating David Williams, and an ex-boyfriend called her to tell her about NWP and the porn?

I guess she was on her way to fly to see her parents. When she got to mom and dad's house, she brought up NWP, clicked on the video, and everyone was disgusted. Then she dumped him.

Or so said Perez Hilton in 2009.

https://perezhilton.com/aubrey-oday-...t-fetish-porn/


What a time to be alive.

Can someone who is not extreme pro trump or Biden explain how likely the hunter Biden video is to be real?

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Originally Posted by BetCheckBet

Can someone who is not extreme pro trump or Biden explain how likely the hunter Biden video is to be real?

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I haven't read the news yet today, but has Biden's camp come out and said it is fake? If not, it isn't.

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Originally Posted by BetCheckBet

Can someone who is not extreme pro trump or Biden explain how likely the hunter Biden video is to be real?

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As somebody who is neither a Trump supporter or Biden supporter and gets called a Trump supporter.

All the Hunter stuff appears real.

I do think it is very likely that Hunter, and his uncle, were using Joe’s name to profit without Joe’s knowledge. That sounds like something a drug addict son would do.

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Tight death cult

why wouldnt the hunter video be real?

the dude stacks money, smokes crack, and fucks.

thats his brand pretty much.

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Originally Posted by BetCheckBet

Can someone who is not extreme pro trump or Biden explain how likely the hunter Biden video is to be real?

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I’m very anti-Trump more than pro- Biden. I don’t know what stuff you’re talking about because there is so much disinformation out there. I see people claiming Hunter molested his niece as nonsense like that.
The email exchanges, and general standard political corruption feels real to me. A lot of the emails read like a really troubled kid who always was likely the black sheep. His all-American brother dies a hero who dad always liked more and who brought him less grief. Going through a divorce and doing drugs. Like I don’t think Biden was doing shit counter to what the US might want anyway, but it’s certainly standard political corruption that goes on constantly. He just happened to be a crackhead who was sloppy.

So if you’re talking the email exchanges, I think they are likely true. It’s a lot of that I know I’m not your favorite or the golden child type guilt shit that exists in many families. This family had a lot of pain in their lives. I’m sure he doesn’t have that job at all if he’s not Joe Biden’s kid. I’m sure Joe probably made some phone calls and did some shit that’s not cool for him. I believe that.

Mind you, I would guess there’s a Hunter in 50% of these families as there is with most privileged kids and what went down is absolutely standard corruption. I imagine other countries have this shit on half our senators. They just lean on them rather than dump them because blackmail is more useful than burying a guy unless you really have a vested interest in keeping someone in the White House.

There has never been a good choice in this election. They both suck. I don’t even hate Trump if he lived next door. I’d probably golf with him if he was just a normal rich dude narcissist next door. I think he’s done a tremendous amount of damage and I legitimately hate his followers. They are cult people and it’s huge. I also don’t love that left shit going on in Portland and the radical element of the BLM shit, but I legit don’t know a single one of those people irl. Half the people I grew up with are in a cult imo, and it bothers me. The everyone is a pedophile nonsense and Covid-denialism. Not debate over best course of action and what’s best for country. That’s a legit argument. I hate the straight denial. I know I’m not alone in people who are sick of Trumps cult being their main enthusiasm to vote against him. Much like Trump was a reaction to people being irritated by the left, that cult mean spirited Covid denial shit will be a large reason should he lose.

But yeah, I can believe Hunter is a mess and Joe did some corrupt shit. It might be a difference maker too. I really think last election there is this 10% of people who like Trump, but feel bad for liking Trump. He’s one of those dudes. The Comey stuff dropped, and it’s enough to make them say they are both assholes. This is late and many have voted and it’s really obscure and most aren’t likely to see it unless they’re reading predictit comments, but should it gain enough traction, it could hurt. Those margins in PA, WI, and MI were extraordinary. To win one no surprise. But to go 3 for 3? You don’t need a lot of people to be impacted.

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Originally Posted by BCR

It’s possible he wins as big, but he certainly seems less popular with older people and it’s an old state. Also he lived here last election. Watching football today, it was all Biden all day. He is spending his time in PA because he needs it and figures he’ll win Ohio or be fucked anyway. 4 is a big win in a tight election. Obama beat Romney by 3.9 in 12. It was never in doubt, but 8+ was kind of an outlier it felt given he lived here every week. I think it’s going to be way bigger turnout, so that plays with the math a bit even if you win by almost the same number of votes.

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If Trump wins Ohio by 4, he is going to lose the election. In 2016, when I saw the early returns come in from the deep south states and how lopsided they were, I knew Trump was going to win. When the results come in from KY, IN and WV, if they are on par with 2016, Trump and the Senate are going to have a good night. Same with Ohio. Trump won the rustbelt because he carried Ohio by 9. He can pull them over the finish line again, and probably MN too if there is the same margin. If Ohio is 4, it means KY probably is lighter than it was in 2016. The red state margins are really a determinative factor in elections.

A smart bettor is going to analyze those KY returns right away and place bets accordingly the rest of the night.

Regardless of what happens in the rustbelt, I think it is a sure bet that FL goes Trump. For whatever reason the Hispanic vote is surging for Trump.

With all that said, I am sitting this election out. I have about $4K left in my sports gambling account. I cash out if I can get to $10K or lose it all. I am down huge in this pandemic, but I had a small condo in Florida I sold for an $90K profit so I guess its a wash, but yeah it still sucks to go on a prolonged losing streak, June was flat out awful. Reminds me how I felt in the 2007 timeframe when I was sodomized at the AC poker tables. LOL.

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Originally Posted by BCR

It’s possible he wins as big, but he certainly seems less popular with older people and it’s an old state. Also he lived here last election. Watching football today, it was all Biden all day. He is spending his time in PA because he needs it and figures he’ll win Ohio or be fucked anyway. 4 is a big win in a tight election. Obama beat Romney by 3.9 in 12. It was never in doubt, but 8+ was kind of an outlier it felt given he lived here every week. I think it’s going to be way bigger turnout, so that plays with the math a bit even if you win by almost the same number of votes.

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If Trump wins Ohio by 4, he is going to lose the election. In 2016, when I saw the early returns come in from the deep south states and how lopsided they were, I knew Trump was going to win. When the results come in from KY, IN and WV, if they are on par with 2016, Trump and the Senate are going to have a good night. Same with Ohio. Trump won the rustbelt because he carried Ohio by 9. He can pull them over the finish line again, and probably MN too if there is the same margin. If Ohio is 4, it means KY probably is lighter than it was in 2016. The red state margins are really a determinative factor in elections.

A smart bettor is going to analyze those KY returns right away and place bets accordingly the rest of the night.

Regardless of what happens in the rustbelt, I think it is a sure bet that FL goes Trump. For whatever reason the Hispanic vote is surging for Trump.

With all that said, I am sitting this election out. I have about $4K left in my sports gambling account. I cash out if I can get to $10K or lose it all. I am down huge in this pandemic, but I had a small condo in Florida I sold for an $90K profit so I guess its a wash, but yeah it still sucks to go on a prolonged losing streak, June was flat out awful. Reminds me how I felt in the 2007 timeframe when I was sodomized at the AC poker tables. LOL.

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Yeah I think he’s going to lose. I said I’m 55/45 he’ll lose, so that he is a little less popular in Ohio given he hasn’t paid it half the attention as last election is in line. I mean, Ohio is red, but it was the same as Texas and 3% higher than Georgia. It’s not that red in normal times. I mean Obama won it b2b. It’s going to be a hard state for Dems to win going forward.

My 55/45 prediction is way more bullish on Trump than the betting markets. You used to say that was all that mattered. I’m giving him more of a chance than they are. Maybe I’m underestimating what he wins by in Ohio. I just don’t feel the same enthusiasm here as previous. Plus the cases are skyrocketing. We had 2500 yesterday. The media will play that up. It’s an old state. If the o/u was 5, I’d bet u, but only for a good dinner money. Not confidently. I do hear some dude name Bill Johnson, who I guess is a rep from central Ohio, on the radio doing an ad about the Hunter Biden scandal as I write this, so they are clearly trying to get it in some ears as it isn’t like Comey going on TV.

I listened to the owner of the Trafalgar Group today. He keeps referring to the Bradley Model in CA back in the 90s. This is where Bradley a black guy had a huge polling lead going into Gubernatorial election day, and lost. He is convinced people are saying Biden on the polls when it really is Trump. He also says pollsters are not bothering with rural voters which we all know is huge Trump since most have never voted before 2016.

By most accounts Trump is ahead significantly in Florida, not by polls but by raw data. However, Trump needs a big turnout November 3rd. If the virus is raging, or if the weather is terrible, yeah he is going to lose. Actually weather is probably going to be the big driver, people are just not going to wait in the cold rain.

The good things for Republicans is if Biden and the Dems sweep, they will alienate just about everyone with their far left policies. I know plenty of Dems, and they are terrified of the AOC wing. They are parents themselves and while they hate Trump, they are no fans of Harris and her wing of the party. I am quite confident some of these Bill Clinton Democrats will vote Trump, even though they hate him, they despise what AOC and Harris stand for.

We'll see, my prediction is Trump carries Ohio by 10. I say that because your Governor won convincingly in a Blue Wave. Whether that translates to PA or WI not sure. But I am pretty convinced Trump wins MI, Detroit is a shell and the rural voters are starting to control the electorate.

And LOL the Dems thinking they stand a chance in Texas. I am not sure why they always fall for this gimmick.

The only lib areas of Ohio are in the 3 major cities, Columbus, Cleveland, and Cincinnati. Ohio otherwise is largely rural and total conservative. Trump will crush Biden because of all the extreme liberal bullshit. It isn’t even close.

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Originally Posted by BCR

It’s possible he wins as big, but he certainly seems less popular with older people and it’s an old state. Also he lived here last election. Watching football today, it was all Biden all day. He is spending his time in PA because he needs it and figures he’ll win Ohio or be fucked anyway. 4 is a big win in a tight election. Obama beat Romney by 3.9 in 12. It was never in doubt, but 8+ was kind of an outlier it felt given he lived here every week. I think it’s going to be way bigger turnout, so that plays with the math a bit even if you win by almost the same number of votes.

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I think it is positively ridiculous you think Biden will win Ohio, or within 4 points. Sure, anything is possible in life, but Ohio is red, and becoming deep red. As far as older people you cite, sure they are pissed at Trump, but they will still pull the lever for him. The virus? Give me a break, no old person I know gives a shit, they know they are thin ice anyways, we all get to the finish line.

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Old people have been through wars and depression, the virus doesn’t mean shit to them.

https://twitter.com/edphelan3/status...703196160?s=21

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

The early voting factor may end up being huge.

The Hunter Biden stuff and the oil stuff might actually have some effect. If Trump succeeds in convincing people that Biden is corrupt, that can frustrate a lot of people away from the polls -- which benefits Trump, because he's always led in base enthusiasm. This election is basically Trump versus anti-Trump, and if the anti-Trump side doesn't show up as much, that's a big win for Trump.

However, the campaign was flailing badly 2-3 weeks ago, and that's when a lot of people placed their votes. If early voting wasn't allowed this year, Trump would have a much better chance.

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Remember folks, if Republicans had their way there would be no voting at all. Why bother even having elections, right?

There’s only one party in this country that is actively disenfranchising voters, and I don’t think I need to tell you which one.

Presidential election is forecast to have the highest voter turnout in 112 years with record 150m ballots expected to be cast, representing 65% of eligible voters - and 58m early votes are ALREADY in

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-ballots.html

High voter turnout is a guaranteed loser for Trump and the Republican party.

Get ready for eight years of Biden and Harris.

Plus another eight years for Kamala Harris.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKQQ0aTcYjc

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

The early voting factor may end up being huge.

The Hunter Biden stuff and the oil stuff might actually have some effect. If Trump succeeds in convincing people that Biden is corrupt, that can frustrate a lot of people away from the polls -- which benefits Trump, because he's always led in base enthusiasm. This election is basically Trump versus anti-Trump, and if the anti-Trump side doesn't show up as much, that's a big win for Trump.

However, the campaign was flailing badly 2-3 weeks ago, and that's when a lot of people placed their votes. If early voting wasn't allowed this year, Trump would have a much better chance.

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Remember folks, if Republicans had their way there would be no voting at all. Why bother even having elections, right?

There’s only one party in this country that is actively disenfranchising voters, and I don’t think I need to tell you which one.

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https://twitter.com/Indian_Bronson/s...11892909907974

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sorry if youre literally voting for yourself as the president of the god damn united states you are allowed to check a titty

Joe Biden DONE campaigning a full NINE days before the election. Pathetic.

Please don’t let this be President.

https://twitter.com/meenaharris/stat...47971486871552

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Presidential election is forecast to have the highest voter turnout in 112 years with record 150m ballots expected to be cast, representing 65% of eligible voters - and 58m early votes are ALREADY in

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-ballots.html

High voter turnout is a guaranteed loser for Trump and the Republican party.

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in elections prior to Trump i would agree with you...

but Trump is a different kind on Republican: one that believes in protecting American industries and jobs thus making him appealing to working men and women, voters who in the past have favored Demos---Trump's supporters may be more numerous than commonly thought

it will be interesting to see how voting goes

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Originally Posted by BetCheckBet

Can someone who is not extreme pro trump or Biden explain how likely the hunter Biden video is to be real?

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Proven fake, the part about Joe doing anything illegal or unethical.

Is Hunter a guy with problems who traded on his father's name? Probably.

You know who else has demons and trades on their father's name? Don Jr., Eric and Ivanka.

Hunter isn't running for jack shit. If the Republicans weren't beyond desperate nobody would ever have heard of this.

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I listened to the owner of the Trafalgar Group today. He keeps referring to the Bradley Model in CA back in the 90s. This is where Bradley a black guy had a huge polling lead going into Gubernatorial election day, and lost. He is convinced people are saying Biden on the polls when it really is Trump. He also says pollsters are not bothering with rural voters which we all know is huge Trump since most have never voted before 2016.

By most accounts Trump is ahead significantly in Florida, not by polls but by raw data. However, Trump needs a big turnout November 3rd. If the virus is raging, or if the weather is terrible, yeah he is going to lose. Actually weather is probably going to be the big driver, people are just not going to wait in the cold rain.

The good things for Republicans is if Biden and the Dems sweep, they will alienate just about everyone with their far left policies. I know plenty of Dems, and they are terrified of the AOC wing. They are parents themselves and while they hate Trump, they are no fans of Harris and her wing of the party. I am quite confident some of these Bill Clinton Democrats will vote Trump, even though they hate him, they despise what AOC and Harris stand for.

We'll see, my prediction is Trump carries Ohio by 10. I say that because your Governor won convincingly in a Blue Wave. Whether that translates to PA or WI not sure. But I am pretty convinced Trump wins MI, Detroit is a shell and the rural voters are starting to control the electorate.

And LOL the Dems thinking they stand a chance in Texas. I am not sure why they always fall for this gimmick.

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LOL Trafalgar

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Presidential election is forecast to have the highest voter turnout in 112 years with record 150m ballots expected to be cast, representing 65% of eligible voters - and 58m early votes are ALREADY in

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-ballots.html

High voter turnout is a guaranteed loser for Trump and the Republican party.

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in elections prior to Trump i would agree with you...

but Trump is a different kind on Republican: one that believes in protecting American industries and jobs thus making him appealing to working men and women, voters who in the past have favored Demos---Trump's supporters may be more numerous than commonly thought

it will be interesting to see how voting goes

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If Teump believes in those things why has he done the opposite at every opportunity?

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why wouldnt the hunter video be real?

the dude stacks money, smokes crack, and fucks.

thats his brand pretty much.

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I was on the fence for this election until I saw the video. Now I'm all in. #Horndogs4Biden

Didn’t think it was possible, but more unlikable than Hillary. Please don’t let this be President.

https://twitter.com/LizRNC/status/1320535446619901953