can you post some of the financial irregularities you feel should have spawned an audit by the IRS?
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can you post some of the financial irregularities you feel should have spawned an audit by the IRS?
So are you aware that people are lying to you and manipulating you, and just don't care for some reason? Or are you actually too stupid to even realize it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
I like the way you totally dodged the first part of that post.
I'm going with too stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBSo are you aware that people are lying to you and manipulating you, and just don't care for some reason? Or are you actually too stupid to even realize it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
Which begs the question; which is worse - someone that is unaware that they are being manipulated by a sleazy politician, or someone that resigns themselves to the fact that a shady as fuck, self righteous queen that literally slept her way to the top, is what you are going to go to bat for?Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBSo are you aware that people are lying to you and manipulating you, and just don't care for some reason? Or are you actually too stupid to even realize it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintjewlips
Trump admitting his business interests will dictate foreign policy.
You mean besides spending 8 years in the Senate and 4 as Secretary of State, while Trump was hosting a reality TV show?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
Hillary is a crappy candidate. I've voted against her twice. But I would vote for a literally retarded person over Trump.
And I like how I'm "going to bat" for Hillary by pointing out that Mintjewlips is completely full of shit. Promoting the truth apparently makes me partisan. That should tell you something profound...but it won't because you're a dumbass.
It's cause and effect. She NEVER becomes Senator if she isn't married to Bill. That's the fact, Jack. Your profundities are invalid and your argument is moot.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBYou mean besides spending 8 years in the Senate and 4 as Secretary of State, while Trump was hosting a reality TV show?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
Hillary is a crappy candidate. I've voted against her twice. But I would vote for a literally retarded person over Trump.
And I like how I'm "going to bat" for Hillary by pointing out that Mintjewlips is completely full of shit. Promoting the truth apparently makes me partisan. That should tell you something profound...but it won't because you're a dumbass.
(oh and i didn't read minty's post so touche) :)
Listen you stupid commie, Reagan didn't blame the deaths on a fucking youtube video that was from the get, a complete fabrication. Tyranny begins with a coverup, got it?Quote:
MumblesBadly: Over 200 Marines died in Beirut during Reagan's first term, but who among the GOP called him out for "bad judgment" over their deaths at the hand of terrorists??? #ConservativeHypocrisyIsRife
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Originally Posted by 4DragonsIt's cause and effect. She NEVER becomes Senator if she isn't married to Bill. That's the fact, Jack. Your profundities are invalid and your argument is moot.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
(oh and i didn't read minty's post so touche) :)
Which explains why you support Trump. A spoiled rich kid that would be broke if not for being bailed out by his father and then his father's estate.
Obama was self made, but you still subscribe to conspiracy theories that he was somehow baked in a lab and not bright or accomplished at all.
How do you reconcile looking down on people that are voting Hillary only because Trump is the literal worst candidate ever while you support Trump, who is exactly the caricature that the wingnuts have made Hillary out to be for 2 decades?
Self made as what? He's just a smooth talking black guy who can't back it up. No talentQuote:
Originally Posted by ToasterOvenQuote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
Which explains why you support Trump. A spoiled rich kid that would be broke if not for being bailed out by his father and then his father's estate.
Obama was self made, but you still subscribe to conspiracy theories that he was somehow baked in a lab and not bright or accomplished at all.
How do you reconcile looking down on people that are voting Hillary only because Trump is the literal worst candidate ever while you support Trump, who is exactly the caricature that the wingnuts have made Hillary out to be for 2 decades?
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Originally Posted by thesidedishSelf made as what? He's just a smooth talking black guy who can't back it up. No talentQuote:
Originally Posted by ToasterOven
And this is where we are in 2016.
Trump is running as an expert businessman but he couldn't sell casinos, football or steaks to Americans. Amazing.
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Originally Posted by ToasterOven
I guess you don't see a difference between a guy that makes a product, puts it out and sells it based on it's merits to win or fail in the marketplace and a guy that leeches off the taxpayers by feeding them lies to get elected.
In your world they are somehow equitable. In mine, only one of those people is a businessman.
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Originally Posted by ToasterOven
The other thing about this; people who are multi-millionaires that didn't get there by stealing it from tax payers, get there by having at least 7 streams of income and FAIL MOST OF THE TIME. That means for every hit there are 4 or 5 failures. The fun part is that the 2 or 3 that make it pay for the other fuckups. That isn't a aberration, that is the reality of an entrepreneur.
Again, you in your world wouldn't know that and you honestly don't need to.
lol, yeah Trump is free market guy. All those contractors that he stiffs and tells that it would cost more to sue him, that's just good business. Using his foundation to bribe attorney generals is good business. Just free market stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsQuote:
Originally Posted by ToasterOven
I guess you don't see a difference between a guy that makes a product, puts it out and sells it based on it's merits to win or fail in the marketplace and a guy that leeches off the taxpayers by feeding them lies to get elected.
In your world they are somehow equitable. In mine, only one of those people is a businessman.
You can't possibly be as dumb as the character you are playing in this thread or you'd be posting while your head was caught in a banister.
Yes, Trump steals from regular people.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsQuote:
Originally Posted by ToasterOven
The other thing about this; people who are multi-millionaires that didn't get there by stealing it from tax payers, get there by having at least 7 streams of income and FAIL MOST OF THE TIME. That means for every hit there are 4 or 5 failures. The fun part is that the 2 or 3 that make it pay for the other fuckups. That isn't a aberration, that is the reality of an entrepreneur.
Again, you in your world wouldn't know that and you honestly don't need to.
Certainly, you are aware that if Trump invested his inheritance in the market and left it alone, he'd be richer than if he never bought real estate or started businesses. Being an independent, I'm sure you've taken an objective view of these candidates.
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Originally Posted by ToasterOvenlol, yeah Trump is free market guy. All those contractors that he stiffs and tells that it would cost more to sue him, that's just good business. Using his foundation to bribe attorney generals is good business. Just free market stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
You can't possibly be as dumb as the character you are playing in this thread or you'd be posting while your head was caught in a banister.
Oh no you got it wrong, i'm on your side on this point. Trump has had to work with corrupt politicians like Hillary Clinton his whole life, greasing palms, paying bribes, doing shady shit to get contracts. So yeah, i'm with you, Trump has gotten deals by buying scum of the earth politicians... that you think are great for the Country somehow.
This was debunked 40 pages ago. Name me 100 people that had the same amount of money at that time when trump started, that now have in excess of 20 billion dollars?Quote:
Originally Posted by ToasterOvenYes, Trump steals from regular people.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
Certainly, you are aware that if Trump invested his inheritance in the market and left it alone, he'd be richer than if he never bought real estate or started businesses. Being an independent, I'm sure you've taken an objective view of these candidates.
You can't. So shut it down.
We have no idea how much money Trump made because he hasn't released his tax returns.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
You won't actually know how much he made by looking his returns. Those losses were probably artificial losses from an s corp that don't really exist. That strAtegy doesn't exist anymore but taxable income is far different from the cash that was rolling in his door.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBWe have no idea how much money Trump made because he hasn't released his tax returns.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
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Originally Posted by ToasterOvenQuote:
Originally Posted by thesidedish
And this is where we are in 2016.
Yup became obvious the libtards have nothing to offer but complaints
Zero chance Trump has over $20 billion. I'd be surprised if his NET worth was even over $1 billion.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsThis was debunked 40 pages ago. Name me 100 people that had the same amount of money at that time when trump started, that now have in excess of 20 billion dollars?Quote:
Originally Posted by ToasterOven
You can't. So shut it down.
As you sidestep the question like a good little lemming commie. Not surprised though. Not even a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerZero chance Trump has over $20 billion. I'd be surprised if his NET worth was even over $1 billion.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
http://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-trump/
$3.7 Billion net worth.
#156 on the Forbes 400.
Trump lost $800 million in value on his properties last year.
Because Trump is running for President, people are trying to sell their Trump apartment cheap.
How would you like to live in a $100 million golden penthouse?
http://www.idesignarch.com/wp-conten...enthouse_1.jpg
you fucking robotQuote:
MumblesBadly: Bill Clinton would never have become president without Hillary as his wife. ("A vote for me is also a vote for Hillary. It's like getting two for the price of one.")
Were you even old enough to vote back then???Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
I didn't answer because the premise is flawed. You start with the assumption that he is much more successful than he actually is.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsAs you sidestep the question like a good little lemming commie. Not surprised though. Not even a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
Also, most people with that much money, either born into it or "self-made," aren't well-known. Trump is flamboyant and likes being a celebrity and seeks out publicity. Others like Bill Gates make a product just about everyone uses. But most people with that much money are relatively obscure. I can't name 100 or even 25 people with who were born with that much money without researching it, and neither can you.
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Originally Posted by hongkongerI didn't answer because the premise is flawed. You start with the assumption that he is much more successful than he actually is.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
Also, most people with that much money, either born into it or "self-made," aren't well-known. Trump is flamboyant and likes being a celebrity and seeks out publicity. Others like Bill Gates make a product just about everyone uses. But most people with that much money are relatively obscure. I can't name 100 or even 25 people with who were born with that much money without researching it, and neither can you.
Again you sidestep the argument. The argument isn't that Trump isn't as successful as he purports, the argument is that there aren't 100 people on earth that stuck all of their money in the stock market and let it ride that have more money than Trump SAYS he has.
That sinking in?
Didn't think so.
Commies can't win the point so they reframe the whole goddamn question.
Some "fact." Yeah I'm sure someone who graduates an elite college with honors, is profiled in Life Magazine as an undergrad, graduates from the country's most prestigious law school and serves as congressional counsel and as a law professor all BEFORE being married couldn't become a senator on her own. I'm sure someone who used her legal skills to fight for children in need, becoming the first female president of her organization, and became the first ever female partner at her law firm and made more money than her husband throughout his tenure as governor has no ability on her own to seek elective office. I'm sure she was nominated as Secretary of State because of Bill not because of any ability she had demonstrated over the previous 40 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsIt's cause and effect. She NEVER becomes Senator if she isn't married to Bill. That's the fact, Jack. Your profundities are invalid and your argument is moot.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
(oh and i didn't read minty's post so touche) :)
Pure misogyny.
Better question: Does George W bush ever become president or even governor if his father wasn't president?
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Originally Posted by DirtyBYou mean besides spending 8 years in the Senate and 4 as Secretary of State, while Trump was hosting a reality TV show?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
Hillary is a crappy candidate. I've voted against her twice. But I would vote for a literally retarded person over Trump.
And I like how I'm "going to bat" for Hillary by pointing out that Mintjewlips is completely full of shit. Promoting the truth apparently makes me partisan. That should tell you something profound...but it won't because you're a dumbass.
You are "going to bat for hillary".
You do it in virtually every post in this thread.
I get that you're like a retarded football fan that is die hard for his team no matter what. You wouldn't vote for a retard over hillary so that makes your fake unbiased setiments bullshit.
I have no idea whether there are 100 people who put their money in the stock market that have more money than Trump SAYS he has, or more apt for purposes of comparison, have achieved a better rate of return.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4DragonsQuote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
Again you sidestep the argument. The argument isn't that Trump isn't as successful as he purports, the argument is that there aren't 100 people on earth that stuck all of their money in the stock market and let it ride that have more money than Trump SAYS he has.
That sinking in?
Didn't think so.
Commies can't win the point so they reframe the whole goddamn question.
If you're trying to say that someone who runs a successful business can make more money than someone who simply earns average long-term market returns, you're right. But Trump has not.
I'd have to wear sunglasses in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheXFactor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56HSPQHSqEE
As we head in to something resembling George W Bush's third term in office. The Neocons and the war profiteers will probably need more pawns. Before you enlist...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHOP6xt9Xck
Not really anti war but it was hard to find in the pre internet days, good watch imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DShDaJXK5qo
I say bring back the draft that way everyone has some skin in the game.
Final post, for reals this time. Seriously
bring back the draft?
are you out of your fucking mind!?
listen, if this were 1939, and the nazi's were running around europe, then sign me the fuck up. i would love to go over there and stomp nazis.
but re: vietnam, and the subsequent wars for oil (yes every war since then has been about oil you fucking rubes) is something i'd be burning a draft card over.
lol @ a draft. I'm sure you'd be the first in line motherfucker
Go ahead. Wipe your ass with 'em!
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57...b0c2407cdb2a02
No Bush jr wouldn't have. Just don't confuse me with a Bush fan mmmkay?Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerSome "fact." Yeah I'm sure someone who graduates an elite college with honors, is profiled in Life Magazine as an undergrad, graduates from the country's most prestigious law school and serves as congressional counsel and as a law professor all BEFORE being married couldn't become a senator on her own. I'm sure someone who used her legal skills to fight for children in need, becoming the first female president of her organization, and became the first ever female partner at her law firm and made more money than her husband throughout his tenure as governor has no ability on her own to seek elective office. I'm sure she was nominated as Secretary of State because of Bill not because of any ability she had demonstrated over the previous 40 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
Pure misogyny.
Better question: Does George W bush ever become president or even governor if his father wasn't president?
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Originally Posted by ToasterOvenQuote:
Originally Posted by thesidedish
And this is where we are in 2016.
is this a racism allegation btw?
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Originally Posted by 4DragonsNo Bush jr wouldn't have. Just don't confuse me with a Bush fan mmmkay?Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkonger
I'm not but if there's anybody more so than Trump who wouldn't have gone as far without his father, it's W.
And hilldabeast coattails billyboy everywhere she goes, right up to this very day. She's too evil to get a face time spot without him. Wonk job, yes, but not a publicly elected chair.Quote:
Originally Posted by hongkongerQuote:
Originally Posted by 4Dragons
I'm not but if there's anybody more so than Trump who wouldn't have gone as far without his father, it's W.
How bout the democrats buying negative ads in FL on the weather channel during the hurricance...DEPLORABLE MUCH???