Tulsi pulling a Mayor Pete and claiming victory in NH. If you expand the definition of victory to include 'embarrassing humiliation', then technically she's right.
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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard addresses supporters in New Hampshire: “No matter what happens here tonight, I want you to know that we have already been victorious.”
Why will it be destroyed? Because some retard young people don't understand the rules?Quote:
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Originally Posted by SPIT thisWhy will it be destroyed? Because some retard young people don't understand the rules?Quote:
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cuz it will look like a scam obv moron. its totally gonna happen, some sort of deal between those 3
Why is it a scam? Somebody is entitled to the nomination because they got 35% of the delegates? Let's say the moderate wing of the party gets 60% of the delegates, and the progressive wing gets 40%. Who has a more legitimate claim to the will of the people?Quote:
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cuz it will look like a scam obv moron. its totally gonna happen, some sort of deal between those 3
If your candidate is so effective they should be able to get a simple majority, something Democratic candidates have been able to do for decades. Big facts.
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Originally Posted by SPIT thisWhy is it a scam? Somebody is entitled to the nomination because they got 35% of the delegates? Let's say the moderate wing of the party gets 60% of the delegates, and the progressive wing gets 40%. Who has a more legitimate claim to the will of the people?Quote:
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If your candidate is so effective they should be able to get a simple majority, something Democratic candidates have been able to do for decades. Big facts.
regardless of whether u think its right or not Bernie voters will feel like its a scam leading to a trump victory, so works for me I guess
I don't disagree with you there. They believe all sorts of crazy things.Quote:
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regardless of whether u think its right or not Bernie voters will feel like its a scam
The Democratic Party is not subject to any rules of “democracy”. That’s a huge myth. The DNC is it’s own little private club and the central powers are free to fix the results any way they like. There is no democracy in primary elections.
Same is true for the GOP or any other party as well, I’m not bashing the DNC here.
If the powers that be in the party think one of Biden/Pete/Amy have a better shot at winning the General they will 100% fuck over Bernie and go with one of them.
Yep, this is very true. In fact the attempt to democratize the primaries is a more modern phenomenon. But the DNC is a private organization and could, if they wanted, simply select a nominee amongst themselves and hold no voting for the general public. In fact, that's how the Libertarian party and many other smaller parties select their nominee.Quote:
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I don’t doubt they’ll fuck Bernie if given the chance. It will be idiotic. If it gets to a brokered convention then it doesn't matter, because whomever comes out is losing 95% of the time. If you can’t find a candidate that gets voters to coalesce behind them by that point, it’s fucking over.Quote:
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You take your L and throw progressives their bone and when you’re trying to explain to them why AOC can’t win in the future, they won’t like it, but they won’t sit it out. It’s a losing election anyway. Any brokered convention where Bernie walks in with the most delegates and walks out not the nominee and they’re 90% sitting and it won’t matter. A good portion will vote Trump as a fuck you anti-establishment gesture. He certainly has 25% of voters for Dems. No one can win when they sit or flip and they will in mass.
If he gets legit beaten by someone before convention, so be it.
In a brokered convention scenario you’re basically hoping for a housing crisis Bear Stearns level event where socialism becomes incredibly popular overnight anyway. Some brokered candidate can’t beat anything less than that.
Maybe so. 20% of Dems in Nevada are Hispanic. Let’s see what happens with them. Biden was running second with Hispanics, we’ll see where those votes go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryptexcuse me? Bernard has the hispanic vote entirely locked up.Quote:
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if bernie gets screwed, the democratic socialists might break from the democrats and we could finally have a third party, which would be greatQuote:
Originally Posted by BCRI don’t doubt they’ll fuck Bernie if given the chance. It will be idiotic. If it gets to a brokered convention then it doesn't matter, because whomever comes out is losing 95% of the time. If you can’t find a candidate that gets voters to coalesce behind them by that point, it’s fucking over.Quote:
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You take your L and throw progressives their bone and when you’re trying to explain to them why AOC can’t win in the future, they won’t like it, but they won’t sit it out. It’s a losing election anyway. Any brokered convention where Bernie walks in with the most delegates and walks out not the nominee and they’re 90% sitting and it won’t matter. A good portion will vote Trump as a fuck you anti-establishment gesture. He certainly has 25% of voters for Dems. No one can win when they sit or flip and they will in mass.
If he gets legit beaten by someone before convention, so be it.
In a brokered convention scenario you’re basically hoping for a housing crisis Bear Stearns level event where socialism becomes incredibly popular overnight anyway. Some brokered candidate can’t beat anything less than that.
Johnny met Buttplug about 10 years ago in a gay bar in Indiana. He said he had a lot of very pretty boys around him. Oh lord this country isn’t ready for gay scandal stories from a president.....yet.
Big news fellas. The head of the Iowa Democratic Party is stepping down.
I’m as shocked as the rest of you.
i dont know what the fuck is going on at predictit but bernie is getting shut out and bloomberg is soaring past him.
He’s spending so much money, Bernie underperformed, and these moderates are viewed as can’t win candidates.Quote:
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He’s also a guy who is paying $150 to people for saying vote Bloomberg on Instagram. Given the cap on predictit, it wouldn’t shock me if it isn’t entirely organic money. He’s turned every southern state green on predictit the day after he got caught in his first race thing. Seems a weird day for everyone to go in on the south. I think it’s a 2 horse race between them, but timing is weird.
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Originally Posted by BCRHe’s spending so much money, Bernie underperformed, and these moderates are viewed as can’t win candidates.Quote:
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He’s also a guy who is paying $150 to people for saying vote Bloomberg on Instagram. Given the cap on predictit, it wouldn’t shock me if it isn’t entirely organic money. He’s turned every southern state green on predictit the day after he got caught in his first race thing. Seems a weird day for everyone to go in on the south. I think it’s a 2 horse race between them, but timing is weird.
i get it but its crazy that my bernie for pres winnings were sitting at $112 this time last night and as of 20 minutes ago was at about $42.
To win it all? Dem nom? I just looked at 7 day chart and he’s down a bit, but not that much. He’s tanked in the south. I don’t see a huge change elsewhere.
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i had him to win it all.