It’s just too easy.
Pretty obvious he has experience unhinging that jaw.
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It’s just too easy.
Pretty obvious he has experience unhinging that jaw.
My rules and strategies can work for each any of you like they work to make me $500k-$1mil per year. Proof: None shown.Quote:
Originally Posted by crudebar
Then the Inner Circlettes try it. Lose their whole bankroll, and ALL of them 7 who tried too. Chrissy: I owe you nothing. This works.
Chrissy then goes to check his online Affiliate account and it is chock full of 35% of the losses from these losers who lost $1k to join, and now perhaps $1.5k in starting bankroll on average for the challenge. Not to mention all the other idiots who went to Facebook and Instagram like Chrissy pleaded them to for the Looney Link to BetOnline.ag. Not a mention of this 35% on your losses, I am rather sure!
You've got a good scam Chrissy. But surely some will leave now finally. It's getting harder to find the next batch of suckers as the Anti-Chrissy video and site count increases.
He is such a bad business man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forum WarsLike the bullet points from your video.Quote:
Originally Posted by RMS9
One point that is not there, because it wasn't in the video, DJ said he had a transcript where Chrissy was complaining to his Inner Circle Jerks "Most of you only paid $250 to be here". Interesting revelation. I thought the $250 payers were high in volume, but not that high. Let's call it as 50% paid $250 and the rest paid between $500 and $1k. That is still about (100 * $250) + (100 * 750) = $100,000 lifetime from memberships if there are/were 200 members. Less than I originally thought. Kinda makes sense why he's always looking for new angles for $$$ and keeps making the videos (I doubt he makes more that $1.5k per month on the videos from Youtube). This revenue stream (the memberships) is down to a trickle for sure. What fool is gonna pay $1k for this today with all the anti-Chrissy material on the web?
He's making the most moolah from his affiliate link these days for sure. BetOnline and him splitting the losses 65/35. Win/Win/Lose (with the people he gives the affiliate code being the "Lose" group).
Imagine if he has 7 people that actually dropped out of the $1k Christmast contest because they lost their bankrolls. That's lets say $1,500 (average starting bankroll) * 7 = $10,500. Chrissy's 35% is worth over $3,500. That is money coming to him next month.
It's shysterish, it's a scam, but it's also a living that Chrissy makes so dishonestly, without a care or a hint of shame. But hey, he can do this and retire his wife and kid. And Tuna Sunshine has no qualms, so she's just as guilty as him here. The Christians from Hell.
Sells something worth $1000 for $250, then complains when people buy it for $250.
Then repeatedly insults his customers.
Folks... I have decided to spend more time with my family, and to travel for the next 7 days, so I have decided to hijack another YouTube channel where I can upload my videos for the next 7 days. The new channel is called "Keeping Up With Christopher Mitchell’s Shorts."Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahDroneWell that video didn’t last long. I got a strike, but just submitted an appeal. Nothing to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahDrone
EDIT: Appeal denied
I finally got the virus stuff out of this video and it has not been deleted by YouTube yet, so we are probably good. It will be a bit of a letdown since it's just a bunch of hater talk and conspiracy babbling.
https://youtu.be/Evui45vT4oM
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Originally Posted by Dan DruffOkay, enough is enough.
KD keeps ranting about his "tell all" coming up, and keeps implying that he's going to tell blatant lies about me helping Morgenstern or stupid shit like that. I've given him a chance to stop with this shit, and leave me alone. I've offered truces where we just forget each other exist. I've tried everything in the book to get this weirdo to stop stalking me and obsessing over me, but he won't.
Therefore, I shall start my own TELL ALL.
Today's chapter shows how he's been duping all of his followers into believing he's getting confidential info about CM.
On November 2, 2020, KD posted a completely phony screenshot of an e-mail he had from a "pit boss of a well known casino" in Las Vegas, regarding Christopher Mitchel. The e-mail was completely fabricated, and KD sent it to himself, as I will prove below!
Here is the screenshot from the 7:40 mark of that video:
Notice the part he blotted out in yellow, which was supposed to be someone's name which KD was supposedly trying to keep quiet.
Now here's a screenshot from the SAME E-MAIL from the 25:52 mark of that SAME VIDEO:
Notice the placeholder of "bjbjbbjbb" in the exact same spot, which he stupidly forgot to redact! Obviously he just banged on the keyboard so it would take up enough space for what would look like a name, and then redacted it! But the dummy forgot to redact it in his other screen shot, so we see exactly what he did! He sent the e-mail to himself! LOL!!!!
You can see this for yourself. Go to his November 2, 2020 video with the above title, go to the 7:40 mark of that video, and then go to the 25:52 mark of that same video. You will see exactly what I am pointing out here. Or just watch the copy I uploaded, which I'll post next.
This whole thing is fake. He does not have the "contacts" he claims. He makes up half the shit he posts about Christopher Mitchell, and this is the smoking gun proof!
High chance this phony is going to remove the video as soon as he sees my post about it. Don't worry! I have a copy saved, in case he does.
He's always going off on Christopher Mitchell for faking screen shots and lying to his followers, and yet KD does the exact same thing.
In the meantime, guys like Double Jackpot are doing real work and getting copies of CM's outbursts in his inner circle. KD just fakes most of what he has, and guesses at most of the rest.
Zero chance he ever responds to this or explains it.
Here was the description of the video:
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This is long overdue video showing Christopher Mitchell's newest victim he kicked out of Facebook Group 2.0. A email from Pit Boss with ongoing communication. A tutorial detailing his month long push of different sales videos, with different sales tactics, different subliminal messages in order to dupe the last remaining suckers out there
MORE TO COME
MUCH MUCH MORE TO COME
Aaaaaaaaaaand boom goes the dynamite! We need an explanation from KD asap, there is not enough popcorn in the universe.
I know KD reads this.
He loves to make challenges -- to CM, to this forum, to Card Shark, to Double Jackpot, to pretty much everyone....
I challenge KD to explain the above post, where he was caught red-handed faking an e-mail from a pit boss, in what he claimed was an "ongoing conversation".
How can you disrespect your own viewers like that? How can people ever trust anything you have to say about CM, now that this is out?
Not to mention that, at the 24:20 mark in the same video, there is probably another fake e-mail, as well! Notice the incredibly similar writing style on both the e-mail I posted and the one at 24:20. So it's not even just a one-time thing. Two fake e-mails -- one certain, one probable -- in one video.
I think it's time KD's viewers all learn that he's been duping them this entire time, probably just so he can bump up his subscriber count and then sell his (losing) sports picks to everyone.
KD says that this forum likes to "talk to each other but not do anything", while he supposedly takes action. Yeah, he takes action all right! He takes action with gmail account, playing pretend with fake pit boss e-mails, and then making it look like he's got super secret insider info on CM.
Pathetic.
By the way, a common question I get is, "Why does KD have such a problem with you?"
He likes to claim that I gave Morgenstern personal info so Mike could "cyberstalk" him and his family, which of course is absurd. I'm sure nobody here believes that. Besides, Morgenstern had KD's family info long before I knew either of them existed. Remember, their well-documented issues and battles go back to 2017. I didn't know KD or Morgenstern in 2017-18, nor did this thread exist. So this explanation fails any kind of sanity check.
So what's the real reason KD hates me? Well, there's actually three of them:
1) I took Lee's side when KD was trying to threaten/badger him into sending him a copy of the restraining order from CM. (Go a few pages back to read the texts Lee posted between the two of them, as well as some texts I posted about the same matter.)
2) I banned him from this forum for threatening people and being generally disruptive to this thread.
3) I made a cryptic reference to "knowing something" about the videos he posted about CM. I was referring to the faked pitboss e-mail from November 2020, as well as other things I noticed which were clearly faked on that channel. This infuriated him, because that channel is basically his entire life, and he was enraged at the thought of people finding out his dirty secret that he was faking a lot of his evidence/correspondences.
After I made reference to knowing something about his videos, he completely flipped out, and started sending me all kinds of vile threats -- which were all reported to law enforcement at the time. Sometime in the future, I will post a copy of these threats -- received both via text and his channel -- and you guys can see the type of shit I have to deal with, running a site like this.
In any case, I'm tired of watching him threatening and attemtping to intimidate others who are attempting to expose CM, so I made the decision to post the faked e-mails. More is coming soon.
My offer is still open to KD to agree to leave all of us alone, and I will agree never to mention him again, and to keep his name off this forum. But I'm not holding my breath.
Yes, the “bjbjbbjbbj” is the dead giveaway.
However, there are other things that give him away.
1. The entire email is his writing style. No Pit Boss would write like this.
2. A Pit Boss would not write an email regarding a undesirable customer and be corresponding with some random person on the internet with a YouTube channel. The corespondence would be done by customer service, security director, GM, ect. And it would not include details of a specific player. They would say something like “Thank you for your concern, we will look into this issue”. No Pit Boss would go back and forth with a random guy on the internet.
3. In the email... “He is considered an extremely losing player”. Once again, no casino employee is going to give some random person on the internet details regarding a customers wins/losses recorded in an email.
You nailed it. Between Druff's bjbjbbjbbj find and this analysis, KD lies to his viewers. And now we know.Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
Yeah that was funny. Just as funny was when he told people they could use the play money casino to practice/verify if a strategy works. The casino charges something like $50 for $2500 in play money. Were in 2021, you run a 100 million hand simulation on the computer to verify a system or use one of the many softwares that are available to simulate an edge. $2500 in play money tells you nothing. It’s just short term variance. It verifies Nada.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkeykilla
He's literally doing exactly what CM is doing. Lying to his viewers to get them to sign up for his affiliate sites and pay him for sports picks.Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVarianceYeah that was funny. Just as funny was when he told people they could use the play money casino to practice/verify if a strategy works. The casino charges something like $50 for $2500 in play money. Were in 2021, you run a 100 million hand simulation on the computer to verify a system or use one of the many softwares that are available to simulate an edge. $2500 in play money tells you nothing. It’s just short term variance. It verify Nada.Quote:
Originally Posted by donkeykilla
Two things:
1) Please don't post KD videos here anymore. I don't want to supply him with any extra traffic or SEO credibility. You can feel free to discuss them, describe them, and talk about them, but please don't post them.
2) KD wasn't actually saying he is on the way to making $100k. It was a bad joke which wasn't delivered well. He was trying to mock CM's unverifiable claims of being on pace to win $100k, so he put up his own made-up "wins", trying to demonstrate that anyone can post anything on YouTube, and it doesn't matter without proof.
I actually agree with his point about making claims on YouTube without proof. For example, if somoene posts a screen shot of an e-mail they had from a Vegas strip pit boss, it might just be the guy writing the e-mail to himself.
All true.Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
This was KD trying to posture that he has so many connections in Vegas, to the point where pit bosses are writing to him and giving him confidential information.
He wanted everyone to believe that he had eyes all over Vegas on Christopher Mitchell, and we could only get the scoop by watching his channel.
As I proved by that e-mail exposure, the whole thing is smoke-and-mirrors. Occasionally he lucks into a truthful nugget about CM. For example, one of KD's viewers happened to be at Sycuan last year and recognized CM, and got CM on video losing and looking frustrated. However, much of what we see on KD's channel is fabricated or guessed at, including a lot of the "proof" we're shown.
The problem is that there's no way to trust any of his claims, given what I've shown. He was caught red-handed outright faking correspondence with Vegas pit bosses, and trying to pass it off to the viewer as real, so obviously that wasn't a one-time lapse in judgment. In fact, as I mentioned, the e-mail he shows at 24:20 in the same video also looks exactly like his own writing style.
Remember recently, when KD mocked this forum for talking about KD's trip to Houston for that World Series game? He insisted that CM was fabricating the trip, and he had "proof" of it. Then CM clowned him by posting lots of video footage of actually being there, and KD quickly deleted the video, and pretended like he never made that claim.
Nothing posted on that channel can be trusted, aside from things where there is 100% concrete proof provided, such as that Sycuan video. But that sort of thing is few and far between. Most of it is speculation and unsupported claims.
Case in point when CM’s video received the time out for mentioning BOL, and KD, at the time, was M.I.A. for awhile. All of sudden he jumps on YouTube pounding his chest about how HE finally was able to get CM’s channel removed. That was bullshit. Same thing with his claim that Morgenstern was dead, only to find out he’s alive and apparently doing well. It’s all bullshit. I was a fan of KD and supported his pursuit to expose Chris, but his attitude and social skills, or lack thereof, are just pathetic. He is the kid on the playground who takes his ball and goes home if he’s not on the team with all the superstars. It’s pretty sad actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffAll true.Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
This was KD trying to posture that he has so many connections in Vegas, to the point where pit bosses are writing to him and giving him confidential information.
He wanted everyone to believe that he had eyes all over Vegas on Christopher Mitchell, and we could only get the scoop by watching his channel.
As I proved by that e-mail exposure, the whole thing is smoke-and-mirrors. Occasionally he lucks into a truthful nugget about CM. For example, one of KD's viewers happened to be at Sycuan last year and recognized CM, and got CM on video losing and looking frustrated. However, much of what we see on KD's channel is fabricated or guessed at, including a lot of the "proof" we're shown.
The problem is that there's no way to trust any of his claims, given what I've shown. He was caught red-handed outright faking correspondence with Vegas pit bosses, and trying to pass it off to the viewer as real, so obviously that wasn't a one-time lapse in judgment. In fact, as I mentioned, the e-mail he shows at 24:20 in the same video also looks exactly like his own writing style.
Remember recently, when KD mocked this forum for talking about KD's trip to Houston for that World Series game? He insisted that CM was fabricating the trip, and he had "proof" of it. Then CM clowned him by posting lots of video footage of actually being there, and KD quickly deleted the video, and pretended like he never made that claim.
Nothing posted on that channel can be trusted, aside from things where there is 100% concrete proof provided, such as that Sycuan video. But that sort of thing is few and far between. Most of it is speculation and unsupported claims.
RMS, similar to you, I was initially a fan of KD's channel. I thought it was a bit weird how obsessed he was with CM, but I thought he was doing a good thing by trying to bring people's attention to the scam. That's why I invited him to come on my show, and in fact had him on twice.
Unfortunately, not only does he have some kind of major personality disorder, the guy is also a huge liar.
It would be one thing if he had a terrible bedside manner but was effective in stopping CM. However, all he's accomplished has been harassing good-hearted people also looking to expose CM, while accomplishing almost nothing on his own channel. Let's take a look at his history:
GET CM'S CHANNEL TAKEN DOWN: FAIL
GET ANY CM VIDEOS TAKEN DOWN: FAIL
GET CM BUSTED FOR WIRE FRAUD: FAIL
GET CM BUSTED FOR TAX EVASION: FAIL
GET CHAMPERS TAKEN AWAY BY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES: FAIL
ORGANIZE PEOPLE TO SUE CM: FAIL
GET CM REMOVED AS BETONLINE AFFILIATE: FAIL
GET CM BANNED FROM VEGAS CASINOS: FAIL
The only negative things to happen to CM were a result of CM's own stupid actions -- things that would have happened even if KD were never born. For example, CM's channel got strikes because he stupidly posted BOL affiliate links, so CM voluntarily took the channel down until the strikes fell off. CM probably also got banned from a few casinos -- or at least told to stop filming in them -- but again, this was a result of CM's angry customers complaining about him, not because of KD's harassing phone calls to security.
We obviously know that KD wasn't in any meaningful contact with real casino executives about CM's antics, because the only casino e-mail we saw posted was the one I just proved was fake.
I have challenged KD to PROVE many times that he personally had an impact on CM's channel or status at casinos, and he ignored that challenge each time.
The entire channel is a combination of delusion and law enforcement fetishizing.
Anyway, the bottom line is that he has been caught faking e-mails with casino executives, and lying to his viewers. There's no way anyone can trust anything he says anymore.
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At least we know Double Jackpots “Source” is real.
He mentioned a couple days ago Chrissy would post his Christmas video today.
I know it’s just a stupid X-Mas video of Chrissy, but it shows DJ does
Have a source from the Jerk Circle.
He really seems to be out of cash for the time being. Will be interesting to see when he does another video with actual gambling and what's in the account.
So bubs ain't getting the $100,000 train set from Bellagio then?Quote:
Originally Posted by crudebar
Here’s the latest short video from my Keeping Up With Christopher Mitchell’s Shorts channel. A real exposé piece LOL. It’s under two minutes long.
https://youtu.be/13DiWN4y8bI
Amazing video.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahDrone
The way he laughs when he says "complete lie" to whatever he was talking about in the original video is another obvious sign he was lying in that original video.
The only train in the near future is the one Chrissy wants run on himself during the big booty birthday bash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forum WarsSo bubs ain't getting the $100,000 train set from Bellagio then?Quote:
Originally Posted by crudebar
It really looks like he is felted until the YT and BOL payments.
He either doesn't ask for fake money to play with or BOL has refused him this method. Which makes sense if he is willing to advertise for them and lose his own money at the same time.
This might get interesting in the next few months. Will he start begging for cash on camera? He has gotten closer to that line with asking for financial gifts recently.
Some interesting Commisison Kings facts, found on https://www.commissionkings.ag/ .....
First, let's look at the percentage revenue one would get as a BOL affiliate:
Now, what are RMP and NGR?Quote:
10% – Less than 3RMP in 6/mo
20% – $0 – $7,500 NGR
25% – $7,501 – $15,000 NGR
30% – $15,001 – $25,000 NGR
35% – $25,001 NGR and higher
RMP stands for "real money players". This means that you need a minimum of 3 people playing for real money on the site in a rolling 6 month period, in order to get more than 10%. This is presumably aimed at limiting payments to affiliates who have recruited one or two whales, but don't seem to be doing any further work to bring others to the site. Betonline wants 3 or more people playing for real money in a rolling 6 month period, or your commission is capped at 10%.
However, once you get those 3 players in 6 months (as Chrissy clearly has), the your commission is determined by "NGR". NGR stands for "net gross revenue".
But what is net gross revenue, according to BOL?
So NGR is basically the money players in your program cumulatively lose in a month, minus any bonuses or freeplay redeemed, and also minus any deposit fees.Quote:
Net revenue will be calculated as, all gross monies from wagers in sportsbook, casino, and racebook as addition to rake accumulated from poker, less any chargebacks, money paid to customers as winnings, bonuses paid to customers (which includes other payments to players such as free bets, re-activation bonus etc) and deposit fees incurred to service your players.
Negative figures generated will be carried over to the following month; however the affiliate team will be willing to look at this on an individual basis, and where need be we will discuss an alternate for you if you are hit by a big negative because of an individual player’s action.
In order to get that coveted 35%, you need the players you sign up to lose $25,000 or more TOTAL, and that's after bonuses/freeplay are redeemed, which players often get when they deposit or redeposit. Plus they also subtract deposit fees that BOL eats, So in reality, you need them to lose a good deal more than $25k to get that 35%. However, don't cry for these affiliates too hard, because they still get a minimum of 20% commission on the revenue (NGR).
It is notable that "negative figures" get carried over, which some affiliates don't like, and which is NOT done by all online casinos. This means someone like Chrissy could get massively fucked if someone wins a slot jackpot, cashses it out, and quits playing (or goes back to low stakes). For this reason, it's important for a small operation like Chrissy's to keep players at games like baccarat and roulette where there aren't any jackpots, and thus disproportionate wins are hard to come by for any individual player. They just grind themselves down to an eventual loss. It's different for large affiliates, which make enough revenue via slot commission (which is very lucrative) to overcome the eventual jackpot paid.
Now let's look at when Chrissy gets paid. We have theorized that it's in the middle of the month. Probably correct!
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Affiliate will be paid within 30 days of month’s end, although all efforts are made to pay within the first 15 days of every month.
So if Chrissy seems to get a sudden balance increase in the early-middle part of the month, you know why!
Let's look at this idiotic contest that Chrissy had for December.
There was obviously a reason for it.
It's no coincidence that it runs from December 1-31. This way, all of the play is in the calendar month -- and helps with his NGR, which therefore raises his percentage.
But why was he NOT encouraging redepositing? Why was he seemingly encouraging one deposit, and then stopping if they lose?
I'm not sure, because you'd think more losses are better for him. However, it's possible he reasoned that a player trying to chase being positive in December might make bigger and bigger bets to "catch up", and if that player gets lucky, it could destroy his NGR, and leave him pennliness. Remember, if someone finishes way ahead, Chrissy not only gets zero commission, but he continues with zero commission in future months until his player cumulatively lose it back.
So it's possible that Chrissy wants to keep everyone betting relatively small, so no single player can devastate his NGR. It's gotta be something like that.
One other thing.
I'm not sure if Commission Kings does this, but some affiliate programs will give advances to preferred affiliates if they badly need money, have been reliable producers for awhile, and seem to be on track to earn money in the next period.
So let's say Chrissy is flat broke and needs $2000. If Commission Kings sees that he's probably going to be getting a payment of $7,000 next month, they might be willing to send him the $2k now, and just subtract it from what he gets in the next pay period. If they do this, it would only be for affiliates which have been producing well.
I bring this up because it could explain Chrissy's sudden cash problems, if he's basically in the hole to them. But I'm just speculating here.
Just landed in Vegas. I’m looking for your, Chris. Make sure you keep that head on a swivel.
Plz let the GOAT win one. Will make KD so mad.
CM the forum is rooting for you to win you half a fag in a bag. Make KD mad 2021 edition
I thought he learnt his parlay lesson.
So, we should assume there will be a video bragging about him being the greatest sports bettor ever after this?
He asked me to delete the post because it had some personal info in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
FOLKS
This is the millionaire mindset.
Forget any kind of real sportsbetting knowledge or research. That's for chumps who don't want to have free time or spend it with their family.
Instead, just fire $500 parlays on all favorites -- both moneyline and spread -- and pray. If you are a Christian, that will help you even more.
FOLKS, do you realize that if the Packers win by 12 points, Christopher Mitchell will turn a $1000 bet into about $13,700? That's a win of $12,700 in ONE DAY, folks. Do you know what that translates to over a year? 4.6 million dollars. That's right, folks, follow Christopher's winning system, and you too can make almost 5 million dollars per year.
Just $250 to get knowledge like that from his INNER CIRCLE. Bargain of the holiday season!!!
FOLKS, if the Packers don't cover, we will see a big meltdown. If they lose outright, we will see a HUGE meltdown.
If I was Chrissy I would Hedge against the win and take the guaranteed 6k vs going for 13k+. Chrissy probably has no idea how to Hedge. However he may not have 6k to bet the opposite side.
And the 11th commandment…Thou shalt not ever question Chrissy’s math.
"Asshole"?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRiversAnd the 11th commandment…Thou shalt not ever question Chrissy’s math.
Sounds like the good Christian is having a crisis of faith.
And l.o.l "I showed 2 bets, but have secret bets to guarentee me profit!111!1!!11!".
That's what he's likely going to claim if he ends up losing (or winning the moneyline one but not covering the spread for the much bigger payout).Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
But yeah the "asshole" answer is probably indicative that he didn't hedge, and is very stressed about the Packers not scoring yet.
Great comeback effort by the Rams. Hopefully that inept fucktard struck out completely. Nobody more deserving.
I would love to Keep Up With the Mitchell's right now.
Can you imagine how irrritable he must be at the moment? Hopefully for Stacy's sake, he's watching the game elsewhere.
FOLKS
Never doubt the GOAT. The Packers just scored a TD and are just waiting to cover that 11.5.
“Adding teams like he’s ordering fast food”
- JeffDime
This is a train wreck. You need an available balance to hedge and even then …. Just puke inducing
Covid toe
I helped convince Spencer to do this video directly. I couldn’t believe he actually answered my DM’s.
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