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Its not really a gift if you have to win a tourney series to get it. It is then called a prize, which in this case was something the user earned.Quote:
Originally Posted by 408Mike
Unfortunately it's risky business sometimes to offer a cool contest with free prizes and such because every so often the lucky winner lacks the capacity for logical rational thought and completely forgets that the prize he is receiving is free and thus a gift from the giver to him. I would never bitch at anyone giving me a gift regardless if it took them a day or a decade to get it to me, only an asshole would complain about the service offered by his friend in the process of delivering a gift directly to his front door and I gotta admit, you are one special asshole "detroit."Quote:
Originally Posted by Detroit
???? Don't think the issue here is if he got it and when he got it?Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustlerHe had a sponsor flake on him and had to dig $420 out of HIS OWN FUCKING POCKET. So what if it took a month and a half? he got paid didn't he? Shit fucking happens, deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
God this place is going straight down the shithole.
What an abortion of a thread.
It's how it went down. If the chat log above is the actual chat as occured, then there is a lot of Erick Lindgren type of excuses going on here. NOT saying he is a scammer obv.
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Originally Posted by DutchDoDo???? Don't think the issue here is if he got it and when he got it?Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
It's how it went down. If the chat log above is the actual chat as occured, then there is a lot of Erick Lindgren type of excuses going on here. NOT saying he is a scammer obv.
Paying the prize isn't the issue, the constant lies are. Why won't you address that part NBHUSTLER? He clearly lied multiple times about shipping it.
Listen Im a fan of Jaseps. I think the guy isnt a scammer in any way, but if he said I'll ship you another one and you can send one back is in no way the truth. Just say my sponser fucked me over give me some time and ill make this right.Quote:
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This doesnt look good. Theres a 0.0% chance you would ship him a 2nd one and hope some random guy will ship 1 back. If you did send this post to Detroit it has to at least call out your credibility. It doesnt make you a scammer and I really dont think you are, but it does show some dishonesty, and being a cash stake going on 100% honesty I'd recommend ending the stake imo. Not that my opinion means anything.
He had a sponsor flake on him and had to dig $420 out of HIS OWN FUCKING POCKET. So what if it took a month and a half? he got paid didn't he? Shit fucking happens, deal with it.
God this place is going straight down the shithole.
What an abortion of a thread
We have to keep in mind that maybe he didnt send that to Detroit, and maybe Detroit left some out, and maybe he was harrasing Jasep over it, and he lied to get him off his back. Im just saying unless your Cmoney your not sending another Ipad because he said he didnt get it if you know you sent it, and you damn sure aint trusting anyone that would be proud to be from Detroit to send you back 1 if they get 2.
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Originally Posted by ShadyJ
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He had a sponsor flake on him and had to dig $420 out of HIS OWN FUCKING POCKET. So what if it took a month and a half? he got paid didn't he? Shit fucking happens, deal with it.
God this place is going straight down the shithole.
What an abortion of a thread
Lewfather ain't gonna like this........Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
ummmm VPR forums completely disappeared besides on projekt:SEP thread?
I never received an ipad.Quote:
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Originally Posted by ShadyJ
He had a sponsor flake on him and had to dig $420 out of HIS OWN FUCKING POCKET. So what if it took a month and a half? he got paid didn't he? Shit fucking happens, deal with it.
God this place is going straight down the shithole.
What an abortion of a thread
Listen Im a fan of Jaseps. I think the guy isnt a scammer in any way, but if he said I'll ship you another one and you can send one back is in no way the truth. Just say my sponser fucked me over give me some time and ill make this right.
We have to keep in mind that maybe he didnt send that to Detroit, and maybe Detroit left some out, and maybe he was harrasing Jasep over it, and he lied to get him off his back. Im just saying unless your Cmoney your not sending another Ipad because he said he didnt get it if you know you sent it, and you damn sure aint trusting anyone that would be proud to be from Detroit to send you back 1 if they get 2.
I did not leave anything out. Druff can have my password to verify all PM's are accurate.
I did not harass him over it..I only contacted him after the date's had passed on when it was promised.
"Just say my sponsor fucked me over and it's gonna take 2 or 3 months." if he had told me that on 5-12 this would not even be an issue.
This just shows how once people decide to buy in to shit like this, it goes beyond just the money and is psychological. It is understandable that anyone who has money out to jasep realizes this thread doesn't help them, but the people defending him are just as bad as the people saying he is a scammer. Anyone who still thinks he is above peeling off money from his wins and not reporting them is blessed to have gone through life so long and still be so naive. You really don't get to be like that unless you've been surrounded by successful and honest people or maybe you're still young. The poker world is far different. The people who stick with the game tend to be borderline sociopaths and lie over a drop. I mean even if I knew he took money off the top as fact, I'm not sure I'd even label him as a 'scammer'. It would just be something I'd expect.
If he was broke before the stake, it is almost guaranteed he is digging into that $5k to pay for gas, food, etc. What was his liferoll before the stake?Quote:
Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied
even though i have given jasep a lot of shit in the past, i still dont think he is a scammer.
he just didnt handle certain matters properly then told a few white lies that came back back to bite him in the ass
I believe what Detroit has posted. He doesn't post much but he seems to be a stand up guy. The reason the sponsor backed out on delivering the Ipad was because of the whole 4bet slow pay deal if I remember correctly. I also do not believe that Detroit should just be happy he received anything because it was free. The guy earned it fair and square and the prize should have been sent immediately. To say its been sent and then never receiving is faggot. This whole disaster is faggot.
Jesep, you should have listened to my advice in this thread. I'm not saying you're guilty of anything but I will sit back and watch your ass continued to be bloodied.
Would love to hear why Brandon and China flaked out of VPR. Maybe it was just Brandon being Brandon.
toughbutfairQuote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
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Originally Posted by anonamoose>implying i backed himQuote:
Originally Posted by limitles
i'm not saying he's innocent or not, i'm saying the bullshit you guys have "brought to light" is irrelevant, misleading, and only causing issues.
speaking of trolls, hey i forgot to welcome you back limitles.
I thought the idea of public stakes was to advertise wins and losses every day, like China.
All I see here is a bunch of smoke and mirrors, alas cheap second hand office furniture sold, without any details.
Spray a few hundred pics Jasep and you will get a few weeks, imo.
I skimmed through this thread.
First, Hey Azzclown, you still want to take up resume writing services? LOL.
For cliffnotes, this is the dirtface I gave Azzclown with regards to this fucking leech. RESUME WRITING. LOL.
Watch and learn. I am the light friends. Never doubt me. Ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1JX07MCCL4
more like johnny septic tank
So, when you say you have been supporting yourself with poker for the last 12 years, and that "large amounts of cash were passing through your hands." When did you find the time to get to your job at Verizon? And why wouldn't that be something you could put on your resume? Why is it a "blank sheet?" When your potential backers thought you were playing poker and gaining experience, weren't you really just a fucking phone salesmen?
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-sepulveda/54/884/298
*The following has since been deleted in the last few hours. Clearly the actions of a man who has nothing to hide*
www.EliteWebDesignRI.com
July 2012 to July 2012
Team Members: John Sepulveda
When you go to: http://www.elitewebdesignri.com/
We offer a 2 day service that will have your MP3 Player, iPhone, iPad, Android Device, Tablet or other media device loaded with up to 8 gigs of music, television shows, movies and more for just $49.99 with pick up and deliver in Rhode Island and do not charge for the media. Take advantage of our enormous library of media. If we do not have it, we will get it!
So basically for $50 he'll take your device and steal a bunch of pirated media for you! What a standup guy! ROFL. He's basically a petty thief. Downloading a few songs for personal enjoyment is one thing. Selling stolen media and making $ on it is quite different.
This has since been taken down. Why would he take it down, unless he didn't want people to see it? Other users saw it before it was taken down. They can speak up if they choose too.
wow, good find azz just more shit that makes you go...
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Originally Posted by donk_tilt7.0Alpha
First post!
Remember when Sepulveda offered to float Vegas in the jsearles22 debacle? Or remember when Johnny was make $1000 bets with PLOL about movie debuts just last fall? Clearly this guy makes good life roll decisions. Take care of your daughter and quit betting on Batman fag!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasep
This septic tank is overflowing with SHIT. I have a new concept for project:sep II.
Septic tank is giving 40great a serious run for his money in the race for top heel on the forums
This proves what about this situation? That he had a job? Wooo...how horrible...Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
Only thing I see this proving is that you're an idiot.
What are you guys hoping to accomplish here?
None of this makes sense.
Let's out sep as a scammer with no real evidence other than some random facts that don't add up ON THE INTERNET.
So what happens here is you guys go he's a scammer! What are the investors going to do, they're going to ask for their money back.
So now one of two things happen, either they don't get their money back because he really is a scammer and horay for you guys or
Sep sends the money back which in my book proves he was reliable and now all those investors just lost out on potential money he would have made them.
Mission Accomplished
Congratulations either way everyone loses.
Just shut up and let the investors deal with it.
Look, the money was flushed down the toilet into the septic tank already. Only way you will ever get it back is by asking The_PHA to utilize his skills.
Actually it would suck if he took off and scammed people because he realizes stakes are drying up. Funny, but I'd feel a tad bit of guilt.
Play on Sep, play on.
That's the point you don't get, they already are dealing with it on VPR and also privately.
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Originally Posted by anonamooseWhat are you guys hoping to accomplish here?
None of this makes sense.
Let's out sep as a scammer with no real evidence other than some random facts that don't add up ON THE INTERNET.
So what happens here is you guys go he's a scammer! What are the investors going to do, they're going to ask for their money back.
So now one of two things happen, either they don't get their money back because he really is a scammer and horay for you guys or
Sep sends the money back which in my book proves he was reliable and now all those investors just lost out on potential money he would have made them.
Mission Accomplished
Congratulations either way everyone loses.
Just shut up and let the investors deal with it.
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this is a jew owned forum use the followingQuote:
Originally Posted by Anal_HershiserQuote:
Originally Posted by anonamooseWhat are you guys hoping to accomplish here?
None of this makes sense.
Let's out sep as a scammer with no real evidence other than some random facts that don't add up ON THE INTERNET.
So what happens here is you guys go he's a scammer! What are the investors going to do, they're going to ask for their money back.
So now one of two things happen, either they don't get their money back because he really is a scammer and horay for you guys or
Sep sends the money back which in my book proves he was reliable and now all those investors just lost out on potential money he would have made them.
Mission Accomplished
Congratulations either way everyone loses.
Just shut up and let the investors deal with it.
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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
''a man has to do what a man has to do''
cmon, this is the internet...its a parallel universe where its not a lie if you believe it
Anonacumguzzler must be fucking Johnny on the side or something. I find it hard to believe anybody could be this blind or stupid. But he thinks China is a great place to live, so obviously he is a little fucked up to begin with. I guess he was too busy with his daughter or was sick again that he couldn't answer simple questions from known non trolls. What exactly does Johnny's colon taste like?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_HershiserYou're right. It's just another coincidence in a long list of coincidences. You poked a "gaping" hole in everything. This excuses all the other shady things he has done. THANK YOU ananomoose for clearing all of this up. Are you serious? You're a blind nuthugger. When Jasep naps this out and doesn't answer questions about this ipad and his dealings with Detroit, I'll be sure to bump your "gaping" hole story. And only a faggot would use the word "gape" to begin with. Out of all the words to use, you use gape? Hmmmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by anonamoose
Anal Hershiser is a motherfucking crusader for internet fucking justice.
Never before has there been such meticulous dedication to keeping everyone in line. Like all day long.
And what does he do it for?
Money?
Glory?
An escape from the monotony of a meek existence to swing his e-dick around as the #1 tough guy of PFA?
WIPE THE CUM OFF OF YOUR SHIT STAINED LIPS AND PAY HOMAGE TO THIS THANKLESS WARRIOR
I can't argue with that given what I have posted in this thread. But all that stuff I posted wasn't found by me. I haven't googled his name once. It was given to me to post. I have pms from people I didn't even know were members. Hopefully all this makes more sense when everything comes to light. AFAIK, there is more coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloppy JoeAnal Hershiser is a motherfucking crusader for internet fucking justice.
Never before has there been such meticulous dedication to keeping everyone in line. Like all day long.
And what does he do it for?
Money?
Glory?
An escape from the monotony of a meek existence to swing his e-dick around as the #1 tough guy of PFA?
WIPE THE CUM OFF OF YOUR SHIT STAINED LIPS AND PAY HOMAGE TO THIS THANKLESS WARRIOR
Wow this threads taken an ugly turn
Jasep kind of reminds of me of a younger Eskimo Clark
Wow what the fuck is wrong with you people?? Can't you see this is a you problem not an us problem...
The dude pays his BAP's
100% satisfied
Case closed?
-Discuss-
Nuthugger.Quote:
Originally Posted by pikachar
Screenshot of what it looked like this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
I'm sure it's just a coincidence you took this down. Probably has something to do with your daughter, your alarm clock or being sick. Sorry bro, cache ftw.
I have a feeling this septic tank is going to collapse and be condemned real soon. I'd stay away people. I'm just guessing here, but I'd guess it sucks to be covered in shit.
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Originally Posted by Jasep
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Originally Posted by Jasep
This guy has been going back and forth and back and forth. Going underground with no public posts anymore. The next day he apologizes for snapping at everyone and offers to publicly discuss everything. He types out a long diatribe with 1/2 answers. People immediately follow up with real legit questions and he naps it out. Then he completely wipes VPR except for his beg thread. Then its noted on here that the death pool is LOL as its not on VPR anymore. Then it shows up on VPR. Azzclown has found a ton more shady shit on Johnny Sepulveda and NOW he wont come back here even after saying the 2nd quote above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasep
Where there is smoke there is fire. The dude has lied repeatedly to multiple backers in the past. He is a shady scammer selling bootlegged music. You dont snap take that shit down if you arent guilty. And why does he need to mention his daughter in every god damn post? Its classic scammer ingratiating himself trying to look like a good guy. Most people clearly agree to fraud convictions to appease their baby momma. No one believes you Johnny, and we all know you are still reading this site.
How are the storage unit sells going faggot?
Just so everybody knows where I stand on this:
tl;dr the whole thread