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Jim Harbaugh can go choke on a dick.Quote:
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That was more of a wish than anything. Like I said, Seattle teams combined probably have a good 85%-90% winning percentage when I am in attendance. It's a running joke in our family. We had a streak of like 13 winning Mariners games going. They were down like 6-3 in the 7th and we were discussing the death of our streak. Then there was a 5.4 earthquake, and the game was postponed. Most of the time they weren't even close games. 9-1, 7-2, 8-3. For some awful reason, I'm the Seattle sports franchises lucky rabbits foot.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Anal_Hershiser
No fine for Chancellor, it was a clean hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
Bad call by three referees. If they can't make the right call due to the speed of the play then it needs to be reviewable.
There will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever be reviewing of officials in game so the entire world can see how incompetent they are on a weekly basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonutsNo fine for Chancellor, it was a clean hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
Bad call by three referees. If they can't make the right call due to the speed of the play then it needs to be reviewable.
That will be kept behind closed doors, where it can be covered up in an attempt to fool the public into thinking they get 99.9% of the calls right.
They are the best!!
The lack of a fine doesn't make it a bad call. It just means that it didn't warrant a fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
Davis is still not cleared to play.
Correct. It stands as a bad call all on its own merits.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
The penalty was for launching. If he was deemed to have launched then he would have been fined. The fact that he wasn't fined means that the NFL reviewed the play and came to the conclusion that he didn't launch. If he didn't launch there shouldn't have been a flag.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBThe lack of a fine doesn't make it a bad call. It just means that it didn't warrant a fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
Davis is still not cleared to play.
The fact that Davis isn't cleared to play is unfortunate, but completely irrelevant.
Edit - How hard does Chancellor hit if he can give Vernon Davis a concussion without hitting him in the head??
Seahawks Arizona presently -11 -110
I'm on this
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What don't you get?Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustlerSay what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiny
Seahawks Arizona?Quote:
Originally Posted by TinyWhat don't you get?Quote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
Are they playing?
SF is -16.5 vs Arizona.
Seattle is -10.5 vs the Rams.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Sorry bro meant RamsQuote:
Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustlerSeahawks Arizona?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiny
Are they playing?
SF is -16.5 vs Arizona.
Seattle is -10.5 vs the Rams.
What the fuck are you talking about?
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LOL, I missed that the first time.Quote:
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Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler
Last word on Chancellor.
Chancellor not fined for textbook tackle
Posted by Darin Gantt on December 28, 2012, 5:16 PM EST
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Every week, there are fines that are debatable.
But this week, the absence of a fine for Seahawks safety Kam Chancellor might have been the easiest call of the week.
As expected, Chancellor was not punished for the hit that knocked 49ers tight end Vernon Davis out of last week’s game.
Frankly, it was the kind of clean, hard shot that ought to be distributed as a teaching tool, to players and officials. Chancellor put a shoulder pad to Davis’ chest, and separated the ball from Davis in the process.
Other players and coaches whine when they got docked for leading with their heads or hitting players late, saying the rules have made the game less physical.
By not fining Chancellor for a hit that was flagged on the field (because officials have been conditioned to call anything that’s close), the league has shown there is still room for big hits.
If Darin Gantt says it's a textbook clean, that's that. End of discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
Now you are just being willfully obtuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBIf Darin Gantt says it's a textbook clean, that's that. End of discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
I honestly don't understand the point of that post. It's some random nobody sports columnist saying the same thing you just said. You seem to have posted it as a "ha ha, see...I'm right".Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonutsNow you are just being willfully obtuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
I agree the lack of a fine doesnt make it a bad call, but it was a bad call in this case.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBThe lack of a fine doesn't make it a bad call. It just means that it didn't warrant a fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
Davis is still not cleared to play.
Davis being hurt should be irrelevant, but lets be honest if that was deemed a dirty hit the fine would probably be higher if the guy gets injured from it.
In this case that fact that Davis was hurt and the league didnt fine him makes it an even more obvious bad call by the officials.
As far as reviews it will never happen the games will take forever not to mention its still a judgement call.
As a Packer fan I know first hand that reviews arent always going to make a bad call a good one. If that were the case the Seahawks would need a win this week to be in the playoffs, and GB would have the 2 locked up with a chance at the 1 seed.
I don't understand why you keep poking the issue. Do you think it was illegal, or worthy of a fine? There's pretty much near-unanimous opinions that this was a clean hit, and if you slow down the gif, he clearly did not launch, as part of the definition of "launching" includes leaving the ground AND leading with the helmet, neither of which happened here.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBI honestly don't understand the point of that post. It's some random nobody sports columnist saying the same thing you just said. You seem to have posted it as a "ha ha, see...I'm right".Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
So you just stirring the pot, B? If not, what are you trying to say?
I thought he would get fined because he was in the act of launching but Davis body stopped that, as well as the act of hitting upwards. Personally I think it was a great hit but I'm a little shocked no fine just to protect the refs they could have said he was in the act of launching. Have to give props to the NFL for not doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonutsThe penalty was for launching. If he was deemed to have launched then he would have been fined. The fact that he wasn't fined means that the NFL reviewed the play and came to the conclusion that he didn't launch. If he didn't launch there shouldn't have been a flag.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
The fact that Davis isn't cleared to play is unfortunate, but completely irrelevant.
Edit - How hard does Chancellor hit if he can give Vernon Davis a concussion without hitting him in the head??
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For the record he won because the collection process was fucked up not because he didnt take anything. Its kinda like the Ryan Braun thing that happened here. Sure he won but it doesnt mean he didnt break the rules in the first place it just means he might have got away with it because of some moron.
Plus you never know these guys that take the samples are probably fans of their home teams and whos to say that a guy that knows hes pissing dirty doesnt offer a guy soem outrageous amount of money to fuck it up. A guy making $10hr gets 50k thrown at him who knows. A 4 game suspension would cost them alot more in money and rep. Not saying it happened in this case just saying Its possible it has happened before.
There seems to be some misunderstanding as to just what launching is, so here's the NFL's version. Clearly, Kam did not launch.If the hitter's head does not make first contact, it cannot possibly be called launching by rule.Code:(j) if a player illegally launches into a defenseless opponent. It is an illegal launch if a player (1) leaves
both feet prior to contact to spring forward and upward into his opponent, and (2) uses any part of his
helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/”hairline” parts) to initiate forcible contact against any
part of his opponent’s body.
Note: This does not apply to contact against a runner, unless the runner is still considered to be a defenseless
player, as defined in Rule 12, Section 2, Article 9.
Sherman made PFFs Pro Bowl team
Cornerbacks: Richard Sherman (SEA), Charles Tillman (CHI) and Casey Hayward (GB)
As our premium subscribers will find from looking at the top of our cornerback rankings this decision was somewhat of a four into three with the most worthy coverage defenders taking the top spots for the NFC and the ultra active and instinctive Antoine Winfield just missing out. In his second season Richard Sherman has cut down the penalty count and is making a strong case for being the best man coverage cornerback in the league in the absence of Darrelle Revis. Meanwhile Charles Tillman had a streak of forced fumbles earlier in the season that must have had skill position coaches running extra ball carrying drills in the run up to games against the Bears. Not merely a turnover a machine Tillman is also amongst the league leaders in terms of limiting gains for opposing receivers when he does give up a reception it hasn’t resulted in a gain of more than 30 yards. The group is rounded out by the phenomenal rookie Casey Hayward who has proven capable of shutting down receivers both in the slot and out wide. He started the season on the fringes of the lineup but as the season progressed he saw an increased role in the defense and responded with the kind of consistently good coverage performances that you would expect from only the best veteran corners.
He was clearly leading with his shoulder but his head still makes contact right before his shoulder.Quote:
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YEah, you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJHe was clearly leading with his shoulder but his head still makes contact right before his shoulder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly
The helmet contact was incidental, not forcible, as the rule demands. I shouldn't have wrote that last line above, as yeah, the helmet did hit first. The helmet "didn't initiate forcible contact" is what I shoulda wrote.
I get all confused when I start using rules-sound words like incidental and forcible contact.
This is one of the most retarded posts I've ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyBThe lack of a fine doesn't make it a bad call. It just means that it didn't warrant a fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
Davis is still not cleared to play.
Consider the source.Quote:
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Originally Posted by DirtyB
How are we supposed to understand the rules when the NFL themselves dont. I think the NFL is just to worried about possible future lawsuits they can say hey we did everything we could, but it sucks that these def guys are taught one way their whole life then all of a sudden thats wrong, and they really dont know whats right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowe DiddlyYEah, you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadyJ
The helmet contact was incidental, not forcible, as the rule demands. I shouldn't have wrote that last line above, as yeah, the helmet did hit first. The helmet "didn't initiate forcible contact" is what I shoulda wrote.
I get all confused when I start using rules-sound words like incidental and forcible contact.
Not every personal foul called gets a penalty, but the Davis being cleared or not is irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefishThis is one of the most retarded posts I've ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyB
There doesn't need to be a review on every single questionable play. Games already take too long. I don't want to watch a 5 hour football game. Officials need to be given some discretion to make calls on the field. It was a clean hit. It was also a bad call. But it was an understandable bad call. I can see why he called it the way he did. Given the speed of the hit, and it's impact on Davis's body, most of the time that is a helmet to helmet hit. Later in the game, a 49ers player was called for a questionable personal foul call for slamming a player to the ground. Probably a make up call. At the end of the day, it usually all evens out. And I have read and heard multiple times over the years that officials try and make sure that it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
Agreed, but if they were going to go to replay for any penalty I wish it would be pass interference. The pass int calls are so bad they should go to the college type 10 yards and a 1st down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_HershiserThere doesn't need to be a review on every single questionable play. Games already take too long. I don't want to watch a 5 hour football game. Officials need to be given some discretion to make calls on the field. It was a clean hit. It was also a bad call. But it was an understandable bad call. I can see why he called it the way he did. Given the speed of the hit, and it's impact on Davis's body, most of the time that is a helmet to helmet hit. Later in the game, a 49ers player was called for a questionable personal foul call for slamming a player to the ground. Probably a make up call. At the end of the day, it usually all evens out. And I have read and heard multiple times over the years that officials try and make sure that it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts
I hope Sherman sues the NFL and wins something here and sets a precedent for them to not "leak" the drug tests. This has happened in all major sports for years
There is always a story that comes out that says "league sources" or "sources" say XYZ tested positive and in some cases they include the drug.
I am not a lawyer here but should not these cases be kept confidential?
I'm pretty sure the NFL is the one pro league that does not say what substance was found. Thus, this new trend of every NFL player saying they are taking Adderall. Probably a lie, but it doesn't hurt the public perception of them as bad as admitting to steroids or other things.Quote:
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Drug aside , what about the NFL leaking that they tested positive for something. Surely this is something that should remain confidential until a suspension is madeQuote:
Originally Posted by gutI'm pretty sure the NFL is the one pro league that does not say what substance was found. Thus, this new trend of every NFL player saying they are taking Adderall. Probably a lie, but it doesn't hurt the public perception of them as bad as admitting to steroids or other things.Quote:
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I doubt it is a coordinated effort by the NFL to leak it, but who knows? I'm sure some of the top writers/organizations have their own "Deep Throat" inside league offices.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacDrug aside , what about the NFL leaking that they tested positive for something. Surely this is something that should remain confidential until a suspension is madeQuote:
Originally Posted by gut
Personally I don't care whether the stuff gets leaked but if I were a player I wouldnt be happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by gutI doubt it is a coordinated effort by the NFL to leak it, but who knows? I'm sure some of the top writers/organizations have their own "Deep Throat" inside league offices.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
Don't take banned substances and you have nothing to worry about.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniacPersonally I don't care whether the stuff gets leaked but if I were a player I wouldnt be happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
What about false positives?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anal_HershiserDon't take banned substances and you have nothing to worry about.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac
The NFL doesnt leak anything they punish the player. Sherman got a 4 game suspension. Its not like all of a sudden hes not playing and everyones like wheres Sherman. They announce the punishment. They dont announce what substance was used which is bs.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinamaniac