I wasn't trying to get Catfish into the tournament. But it looks like it's probably happening.
20 races, 43.78 points
Just gotta get her through the last 10 without fucking up, and she's there.
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I wasn't trying to get Catfish into the tournament. But it looks like it's probably happening.
20 races, 43.78 points
Just gotta get her through the last 10 without fucking up, and she's there.
https://knowyourhorses.com/horses/128993
Spinnerette currently 25th in mid distance
She’s the strangest horse - 71% flames in the 31 races but not one first place
Overall after 50 races has only won twice despite getting flames almost half the time - and doesn’t get a whole lot of 2nds or 3rds either
With her flame rate I’d expect 10+ win percentage
What a sweat.
Catfish had a bad final race (8th) and it was going to be super close whether she would make class A (where most of the prize pool is).
She ended up 192nd. Cutoff is....
192nd.
Phew!
Delay in confirmation, too, as it had a lag.
Tournaments are posted now. Catfish actually has a flame in her first race!
Begins 5:10am PT
https://3d-racing.zed.run/live/us4GjvJj
Spinnerette races tomorrow morning in mid-runners 6
https://knowyourhorses.com/races/OXaPhmV
she pulled flames - got a great draw, the field is absolutely horrible
Gl ankiel came in around 700 I believe. Think he could have made it if he didn’t class up to 1
yeah, I only had 1/4 even come closeQuote:
Originally Posted by BetCheckBet
tbh if I were you, I’d shelve ankiel and misty for now and hope they change the class system to your benefit
instead of spending the money to down class them i’d throw $50-$75 at an unraced unnamed bred horse
you can find horses with decent blood super cheap right now
and/or you can try your luck breeding them later this month
Catfish just OWNED MOTHAFUCKIN HEADS in the quarterfinals, easily galloping to 1st place.
$422 prize right there, and he moves on to the next round. That's my biggest single race win on the site by a wide margin.
:yes
Replay here: https://3d-racing.zed.run/replay/us4GjvJj
Semifinals start in 6 hours or so.
People in Discord already very unhappy about losing the quarterfinals with horses on top of the qualifying leaderboard. One guy said he was mad about getting nothing "for a week of hard work". (LOL)
Actually the biggest injustice in this tournament is the stupid scheme where horses who finish 3rd-5th most often (especially 4th) qualify, but the money winners are the ones who can also win races. So the mediocre/bad qualifiers basically have not shot at winning anything, which defeats the whole purpose of this tournament.
Once again, ZED does something creative but fucks it up in the details.
This tournament scheme helped me (and hopefully will help Willie), as Catfish isn't a donk, so after squeaking into the final qualifying spot in Class A, she was a lot better than the donks put with her in the first round. (Actually two were decent, the rest were pretty bad.)
Willie is up against 11 donks, and it will be an embarrassment if Spinnerette doesn't take it down.
However, it's not all roses for me, because I know Catfish isn't good enough to beat the crushers (and even the semi-crushers) on the site, so it's inevitable that she isn't going to get to the end. Kinda sucks already knowing that. Were it a competition to finish 3rd-5th the whole way, everyone would have a chance.
I also didn't run free races to qualify, nor did I even try until the end, so I just ran Catfish's normal races, and she kinda backed into the qualificiation. So losing the quarters woulda been a much easier pill to swallow.
As expected, Catfish was in a race with really tough horses in the semis, and had no shot.
Finished lol 12th (better than 4th, I guess), and is out.
Still banked $422 from winning the quarters, so I'll take it. Catfish just isn't good enough to run super deep in a tourney where winning races is the goal.
Liquidated 4 donks and semidonks in my stable this week, for a total of about 0.14 ETH.
Replaced them with a Z5 female exclusive Nakamoto for 0.082. Just born 2 days ago.
Here she is (has a stupid name, unfortunately): https://www.hawku.com/horse/158182
Has a fairly badass father who is flaming at $25 races at Class 2: https://www.hawku.com/horse/119808
Mother is decent, but not great. Flames $5 races at Class 3: https://www.hawku.com/horse/6811
My new horse is a bit of a mystery, because she hasn't raced much. Seems like she is best at 1800, but we will see. She hasn't been tried at anything above $2.50, other than one $10 race at 1400 where it didn't look like she was good anyway.
My first race with her is a 1800 Class 3 $5 race, so we will see how she does. If she flames there, then high chance I can race her for profit -- at least enough to earn back the 0.082 ETH I spent.
If she turns out to be a semidonk, I can still breed her and perhaps make some good horses, given both her Nak blood and the fact that her father owns heads.
If she turns out to suck at breeding too, I can probably still get most of the money BACK by selling her, so it's not a big gamble.
Well, I think I made a good buy.
Lowballin KYH Princess (KYH refers to knowyourhorses.com) has flamed in the Class III $5 1800m race.
It will run in a few minutes. Regardless of how she does, this is important because it shows she's at least good enough to flame there, and people aren't usually sandbagging at these because they're both middle distance AND $5. The sandbagging takes place primarily at $2.50 races which are short or long.
Therefore, she's against 11 other horses with owners who believe they can compete at Class 3 $5, and she flamed anyway.
Already happy with my purchase.
Incidentally, I tried first for this horse, but missed it by literally 2 minutes: https://www.hawku.com/horse/158181
That horse was sitting there for 6 hours, and somehow another guy decided to buy it at the exact same time as me (at 4am PST, no less). So I missed out there for 0.075, and then tilt bought this one at 0.082.
Honestly this horse looks a bit better because she's a Z5 where the other was a Z7, and the other one also was showing signs of hitting a ceiling at Class 3 $5, whereas this horse might be able to do even better.
Catfish with the sweet closing kick!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Well, my new Nakamoto seemed to be a great buy, flaming in the first 1800 $5 Class 3 race I entered her. She got 4th (bubble spot), but no biggie. Was thrilled to see a flame.
Second identical race -- no flame, but won it!
Third identical race -- no flame, finished 8th.
Blah. So looks like she's not going to be a crusher at 1800 Class 3. However, perhaps I can class her down and try her at $5 races at Class 4, and she might be able to grind out a profit. That's basically what Ptarmigan does, and he's my most profitable horse, even though he lags way behind his dad Flying Stupidity ability-wise.
Also I see she flamed at 1200 $2.50 somehow, and she doesn't have any other short races other than that $10 1400 race, so perhaps she's a better sprinter than mid-racer.
Still trying some shit. I'm interested in seeing what she can do breeding-wise, but that's about 4 weeks away.
Announcement this morning:
Totally underwhelming change. This is really just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.Quote:
🥳 We’re making some class system changes! 🥳
Based on community feedback we’re implementing some changes to the current class system as part of our ongoing development. This adjustment will help reposition the majority of racehorses towards the middle of the class system, allowing for more competitive racing. These changes will come into effect this week and will help balance the class system and keep racehorses in the appropriate class for longer. Here are the details:
1. We’re changing the distribution of class points awarded from both paid and free races to the following:
1st: 5 | 2nd: 3 | 3rd: 2 | 4th: 0 | 5th: 0 | 6th: 0 | 7th: 0 | 8th: -2 | 9th: -2 | 10th: -2 | 11th: -2 | 12th: -2
This means you will be able to lose class points from free races once again.
2. We’re updating the class point brackets as follows:
Class 5: 0-20 | Class 4: 21-50 | Class 3: 51-90 | Class 2: 91-140 | Class 1: 141+
We’d like to thank you for your continued feedback - please keep it coming via the Product Portal: https://product.zed.run/tabs/15-unde...er-development
The class point earning/losses are still very similar, with only 1st, 2nd, and 7th changing.
The class brackets are a little wider now, but won't really help those who classed way up on free races (where you could only gain points but not lose).
And now they're going to re-enable free racing point losses, which means those can be utilized again for massive sandbagging.
So that last one basically wipes out anything gained from the other changes.
:fail2
footium had its club launch the other day, plenty of division 8 clubs on the market at close to original minting price of .05
if you fancy running a virtual soccer club give it a look, the beta of the game starts later this month and game is scheduled to launch later next year
even if you dont think a football manager game is up your street with only 3k supply of the clubs there is a very good chance floor will be higher when the game launches
https://opensea.io/collection/footium-football-club-v2
https://footium.club/
new “A shaped” tourney announced
6th and 7th place earns most points
BCB, get Rick and Misty in that tourney - it’s their time to shine!
Once again they are only paying peple who finish 1st/2nd/3rd in the qualifiers, which is an outrage. These nonstandard tournaments are actually really cool, and they give opportunities to horses which are otherwise glue. However, they fuck up the most important part (the way to actually win something) and again make it a contest where only the good horses can win.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
ZED wouldn't be ZED if they didn't find a way to fail at everything. Maybe they should look into a partnership with Caesars.
BTW, something else sorely needed is an unregister button. I accidentally put KROQ Ken in a free race instead of a 1400m $2.50 (where he seems to really shine), and of course he won it, earning me 6 points I didn't want.
One good change coming up is the addition of a "place at any random open gate" button, to where you'll be able to register your horse more easily in races without getting the awful "this gate already taken" message. I suggested this many months ago on their "product improvement" form, as I'm sure many others did. But glad to see it's in the process of being implemented.
BTW, if anyone is interested, I have gotten pretty good at figuring out how to race horses profitably. I haven't made big money by any means, but I can post my findings if you guys would like. Right now I'm 0.52 ETH up lifetime in racing: https://knowyourhorses.com/stables/0...rofit_and_loss
:lol2Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffOnce again they are only paying peple who finish 1st/2nd/3rd in the qualifiers, which is an outrage. These nonstandard tournaments are actually really cool, and they give opportunities to horses which are otherwise glue. However, they fuck up the most important part (the way to actually win something) and again make it a contest where only the good horses can win.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
ZED wouldn't be ZED if they didn't find a way to fail at everything. Maybe they should look into a partnership with Caesars.
BTW, something else sorely needed is an unregister button. I accidentally put KROQ Ken in a free race instead of a 1400m $2.50 (where he seems to really shine), and of course he won it, earning me 6 points I didn't want.
One good change coming up is the addition of a "place at any random open gate" button, to where you'll be able to register your horse more easily in races without getting the awful "this gate already taken" message. I suggested this many months ago on their "product improvement" form, as I'm sure many others did. But glad to see it's in the process of being implemented.
BTW, if anyone is interested, I have gotten pretty good at figuring out how to race horses profitably. I haven't made big money by any means, but I can post my findings if you guys would like. Right now I'm 0.52 ETH up lifetime in racing: https://knowyourhorses.com/stables/0...rofit_and_loss
:wtf
:dancingbaby
hilarious about this is, and i'm not like others who just think Zed themselves are clueless, lol that's probably not true right...
And I have joked that this all sorta feels like a Mensa Game in some ways now lol, and so I would think they only hire very well thought of College Degrees and bright innovative people, and so to me that means this. They know exactly what they are building and why, who may love it hate it, this isn't being done for no reason they know exactly what kind of Tournaments they are building here now, and obviously they want a little randomness and more luck built into this all. Which does make sense or like Real Thoroughbred horse racing, the best would win over the long run and in digital horse racing not real horses, that cant happen. Secretariat the real horse, wouldn't lose if he had no life span right lol, anyway they too smart at Zed to NOT know exactly everything being built and put out now, I think honestly so its kinda funny in that way somewhat i think too....
They know exactly what they are designing and why
I wish I could be that confident, garrett.
Unfortuantely, it looks like a lot of decisions they make are just spur-of-the-moment, and they don't bother to run simulations or examine much data. It almost appears as if someone is sitting on the toilet, comes up with an idea to make an "improvement", and implements it without further analysis.
They have a very interesting and fun product, but are messing up so many elements which are relatively easy to get right, and yet are still plodding along with big marketing partnership money rolling in, plus a base of players who are loyal despite the fail (myself included).
However, there are some warning signs that things aren't going as great as they'd like -- notably the relative lack of new people coming onboard, the slow disappearance of active players, and the cratering secondary market.
As I post this, you can buy a Z4 Exclusive Nakamoto for 0.043 ETH ($190), whereas just two weeks ago you couldn't find any exclusive Naks for under 0.055. And several weeks before that, it was rare to find an Exclusive Nakamoto for under 0.1.
It's going to be a race between getting everything right and marketing the game properly to noobs, and the VC/partnership money running out. If it's the former, anyone like myself who is well established in the game will be great shape. If it's the latter, the whole thing will eventually crater and fail.
Looks like poker isn't the only online game for money with superusers...
https://twitter.com/zed_run/status/1469049633661861889
:what
I really think they handled this as good as they could have
Given this is probably as bad as it could get, customer confidence wise too. Saying yes it happened and oretty fast, while also having done the research I thought was well handled. They seemed to me, to not act erratically but handled it in time, to get to the correct end result. And now moving forward I really think its going to be much more than ever scrutiny alway, and internally now so sum total the game gets tighter and better from here on out because of this I think. Honestly think Zed handlded this disaster as swiftly, and well as they could of. And can now regroup and move on better, hopefully. I think they are so good, and big with massive partners this ship is never sinking now, never ever. Sure scumbags will get found out, maybe thief's who knows, but Zeds going big places and it is fun. Anyone who gets into digital horse racing and gets a stable will know even just after work its fun =)
BUMP
ZED is going to do some new things in 2022. Among them, they are going to allow people to rent (currently unreleased) genesis horses.
Interestingly, the type of horse affected by this most will be Finneys, as only about half of them are currently given out, and the other half will be available for rental.
https://twitter.com/SN_Stables/statu...76401525862400
By contrast, only 5% of Nakamotos and Szabos are unreleased, while about 20% of Buterins remain.
This will probably raise the value of the three genesis Finneys I own.
Of those three Finneys, none have raced, but all have bred. My one male (Unhand Me) has produced nothing but donks. Tiquero (female) has produced some decent horses but also some donks. Darci's Money has produced mostly donks, but did manage to create my best racer (Flying Stupidity).
It is likely that Tiquero, a Z6 Finney genesis, is my most valuable horse.
Here is a list of the other changes ZED will be making in 2022: https://community.zed.run/2021/12/31...e-future-2022/
Some of these sound pretty cool, so I hope they actually happen.
I also might stop selling horses, as they will be dropping tokens in early 2022, partially based upon horse ownership (and some other factors). So it might be a mistake right now to let go of my donks for $60-$80 like I've been doing.
bg_alt is a really bright guy, who spends a lot of time statistically analyzing ZED. His latest findings don't require a stats genius to have noticed over the past month, but he's basically confirmed what I have been saying: Racing has been dramatically harder since they realigned the classes last month (and brought negative points back to free racing).
https://twitter.com/bg_alt/status/1479685221008109568
https://twitter.com/bg_alt/status/1479689355123847169
All five classes are very competitive right now. Even at Class 5 $2.50 races -- the lowest tier paid race type -- you need to have a fairly good horse to compete.
I had horses who were beating the $2.50s by a fairly good margin (KROQ Ken and Ice Cold AC) who can't compete anymore at any paid race on the system. Thus, I don't race them anymore.
Flying Stupidity used to be able to win at Class 2 $10 races. I had to tank him down to Class 4 just so he could be +EV at $5 races.
Projekt SEP needed to be downgraded to from Class 4 to Class 5 in order to win $5 races again (and he still doesn't usually flame).
Catfish also needed to go down from 5 to 4, in order to win $5 races.
Ptarmigan also needs to go down to class 5, but I can't get him down because he's too good at all lengths to reliably lose at free races, so he's stuck at upper class 4. So right now he's useless. Before, he was my most profitable racer. Sad!
I have two other horses (Esteem and Lowballin KYH Princess) who would be winning at Class 4, but can't get back there because they are mid-distance horses, and again don't reliably lose free races.
My new horse One to Grow On, who can beat Class 5 $2.50 races at 2000m (and nothing else), is about the minimum you need these days: https://www.hawku.com/horse/177140
Sadly, all of this was predictable. ZED unfortunately makes reactionary changes to their class system, without bothering to think about how players will adjust. They need to think one step ahead, but they don't. I've still been able to grind out a small continuous profit on ZED racing, but all of the downclassing is really cooking the fun out of it.
More importantly, this is crushing any chance new users have to get going with racing, as not a single paid race is easy nowadays. Every single race has several good horses in it.
ZED also gave a news update today: https://community.zed.run/2022/01/08/zed-rundown/
Among other things, they claim their new ELO based rating system -- promised since August -- will be dropping in a few weeks.
That's good, right?
Not so fast.
I already see a problem with this. The Elo system is going to rate your horse both based upon how it finished AND how good the competition was. This type of system is used in chess, and works well. Here it won't work so well. Why?Quote:
The Elo rating system. This is in its final phases of testing. The new rating system will determine a racehorse’s class by calculating a racehorse’s rating according to its position at the end of any given race, relative to the field of competition. This will more accurately represent a racehorse’s rating based on its past performance. We are still on track for a late January release!
Because you can still game the system by simply entering free races at lengths where your horse isn't good, and it will corrupt the Elo rating. That isn't possible in chess, as there's no such thing as "lengths" in chess.
No doubt this is going to be immediately exploited in several ways, and again all 5 classes will be tough.
For this to be fair they'd need to have Elo for each length, like they do for different chess formats (classic, blitz, rapid)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Gonna give you guys some valuable info regarding buying horses.
First off, get familiar with the "Listing" tool on hawku.com. Learn how to filter horses for sale by various categories.
The most important thing you need to learn about buying horses is something which isn't well known/understood by the ZED Racing public. There were six different "eras" on ZED Run regarding racing difficulty, and a successful racer in a prior era may be a donkey today.
Here are the six eras:
1. The Pre-Blowup-Era: Before 5/7/21
This was before ZED became well known by the NFT-loving public, and was relatively under the radar. This was BEFORE the big drops which happened in May and June, and there were relatively few horses in the ecosystem. Any results from this era should be mostly ignored.
2. The Pre-Fatigue Era: 5/7/21-8/23/21
This was before the concept of "fatigue" was implemented, so horses could race an unlimited number of times without getting tired. This allowed certain stables to race an insane number of times, especially because horses could be in 3 races at once. This made the game get quite hard with all the new horses in the ecosystem, with the good ones filling up races at all levels. This was the second toughest era, but still less competitive than today.
3. The Fatigue and Tanking Era: 8/24/21-10/3/21
Fatigue was implemented, making horses get tired very fast. This made the game much easier, but it also caused tremendous tanking, because people were able to easily lose free races with fatigued horses, thus classing down. Still, this was when mediocre horses could still win, due to vastly decreased repeat entries in paid races. Basically, the good horses weren't wasting their races on cheap buyins, so they raced only where they were best. Any success from this era should be ignored. This is the ZED equivalent of beating poker in 2004.
4. The Lesser Fatigue Era: 10/4/21-11/9/21
They lightened fatigue a ton here, and also made it to where horses below 80% stamina couldn't lose class points anymore. This brought back a lot more racing by the good horses, as they could go 5-10 times before falling below 90% stamina, and they could refresh within 12 hours. This made racing somewhat tougher again.
5. The Class Point Increase Era: 11/10/21-12/8/21
In order to make it tougher to sandbag/tank horses to lower classes, they awarded 6/4/2 points for 1st/2nd/3rd, with -2 for 7th through 12th. They also took away the loss of points from losing in free racing, but you would gain points if you won! As a result, this caused tons of horses to end up stuck in Class 1. This again made racing easier (if you weren't stuck in Class 1), because a lot of the good horses were gone from Class 2-5. Any success during this period should be ignored, as well.
6. The Class Realignment Era: 12/9/21-present
On December 9, they changed the class system to be much wider in Classes 1-4, which caused some horses to drop down in class automatically. They also changed the point awards for winning and losing again, being 5/3/2 for 1st/2nd/3rd, and -2 for 8th-12th. Most importantly, they brought back free race point losses for finishing 8th-12th, which once again enabled free and easy tanking. This made everything MUCH harder, and every class (even 5) got incredibly difficult at paid racing. This remains the case today. The proliferation of tournaments also hurt paid racing, as people with mediocre horses started chasing tournament qualifications, and stopped bothering grinding paid racing (where they were losing anyway, and where the upside was low).
So what does all this mean?
It means that you need to pretty much only look at horse performance from mid-December 2021 through the present. In fact, it's gotten even tougher over these past 7 weeks, so the more recent racing data, the better. Note that the first few days of the present era weren't quite as tough, but rapidly got tougher.
If most or all of the horse's races were before mid-December, then use caution, but especially ignore results from eras 1, 3, and 5 as listed above.
Furthermore, older horses that had "odds" in their earlier races should be ignored if they were drawing high odds at that point. Remember, the game has only gotten tougher! Odds were related to the horse winning, and the flame is related to the horse showing (finishing 3rd or better). You want horses which can WIN, not just finish 3rd.
Next I will explain other things to look for.
What else should you look for when buying a horse?
First off, ignore free racing. For the most part, free racing results are meaningless, as there are tons of tanking horses in free racing, who are entering lenghts they're bad at specifically to lose points intentionally. Beating that competition is like beating 8-year-olds on the basketball court. Sure, you're winning, but it doesn't mean much.
There is a toggle on hawku.com that enables paid results only. Click that, and pay attention to the new list of results.
What are you looking for? First, see if the horse is flaming in paid races. If it's not, move on, unless it's one of those rare outlier horses which wins despite not flaming (meaning a horse with high variance, but mediocre typical performance). Note that you need a pretty big sample size to determine one of those rare non-flaming winners, so it's safe to just ignore horses which aren't flaming much at paid.
Next, look to see WHERE and WHEN the horses are flaming. If you see no flames after 12/9/21, move on.
If you see only flames at $2.50 races, but nothing higher (or at least nothing higher after 12/9), you again probably want to move on, unless the horse is really cheap.
Basically you're looking for horses who flame at $5+ races since 12/9/21, and also aren't expensive. This can be tough to find, so keep checking.
Also, beware of horses which flame a lot and don't win. They're not as valuable as they appear, because they just don't have the variance in them to ever run really fast, and they will almost never win tough races. In poker terms, think of them as the tight rocks of the racetrack. They aren't bad, but they bleed away money. Look for the "paid win rate" for each horse. If it's below 6%, you probably want to move on. Anything over 10% in recent races is a good horse, typically, as long as the sample size isn't small.
You also may want to take some cheap shots at unraced horses, if they're underpriced. If the parents or grandparents look good, and they're inexpensive, it's worth taking the chance.
I'll explain later how to use Danshan's stackednaks.com to research horses further, if anyone's interested.
Here are some examples of horses from my stable which illustrate the points above.
This horse had flames at $10 races in super-easy Era #3, but actually is a big donk. I bought this horse cheap, just in case it was good despite that, and I instantly regretted it. But at least I didn't waste much money: https://www.hawku.com/horse/36496
This horse gets a ton of flames at paid races, but has low variance and can't win: https://www.hawku.com/horse/69663?paid_only=true
This horse has high variance but very mediocre base ability. This was enough for him to win consistently, but look how he's fallen apart since December 9: https://www.hawku.com/horse/69570
This horse has both base ability and vairance, and can still compete, albeit not at $10 races anymore: https://www.hawku.com/horse/32781?paid_only=true
This horse was starting to win again prior to the December 9th changes, but has returned to donk status due to the increased competition: https://www.hawku.com/horse/32607?paid_only=true
This is a horse I just bought about 10 days ago for only 0.04 ETH, who was unraced. He's doing great in the tournament qualifying free races, and should be a paid winner, as he seems to have ability and variance: https://www.hawku.com/horse/112451
one of the zed run stables zombie racing just announced a cross promotion with footium the football manager game ive mentioned in the past
its around 10k in prizes so might be worth you guys having a go at it figured its worth sharing
https://zombie.racing/blog/new-tourn...-zrc-x-footium
Quote:
Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS
Footium.club
i think thats the Game and an NFT Soccer Club one, I played High School soccer and well soccer all of my life, have in DFS so when I saw this new Game here I jumped in the Discord
https://twitter.com/Footium_Game
Teams or Club's i see seem to be going for like .4 Eth but idk, im learning it, pretty cool tho i think
yes thats right garret discord is defo a good place to start when you are learning about the game, still only in beta so full game isnt due until end of march time but definitely a great concept and the floor price keeps on risingQuote:
Originally Posted by garrett
im @spud in the discord if you got any questions give me a shout
have seen loads of zed run guys jumping on it over the past few months, number of owners is growing every day i reckon floor price on a club can hit 1 eth by launch time
this i good introduction video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhTc7_93vrQ
So they have these daily tournaments now. You can only qualify via free races.
This is the first day I tried to qualify.
Tried my 2nd newest horse, Sundea Suprema, who failed.
Tried my newest horse, Metallic Kat, who also failed.
Both of these were Szabos I bought over the past month.
So I went back to the tried-and-true winners::
Flying Stupidity easily qualified, winning all 5 races. A class obv.
Projekt SEP easily qualified, winning 4 of the 5 and finishing 3rd with the other. A class obv.
Ptarmigan barely qualified, taking 6 races to do it, but squeaking into the very bottom of the A class.
Top 3 horses in each round move on.
Quarterfinals:
Flying: 3rd - $26 win, moves on
SEP: 11th - Fail
Ptarmigan: 1st - $105 win, moves on
Semis:
Flying: 4th - fail... just one spot away from the finals
Ptarmigan: 3rd - $74 win, moves on to finals!
Finals:
?????
Watch here: https://3d-racing.zed.run/live/n4yo6ZA
Ptarmigan didn't get a flame on any of these. In the semis, I was sure he was dead, as he was against crushers, including a Z1 and three Z2s. Interestingly, none of the horses who flamed in the Ptarmigan semis moved on.
He really has no business being there, but maybe he'll pull off a miracle. The horse is high variance, so he has a shot.
Take it down!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Ptarmigan got absolutely crushed. Distant 12th.
Well, he was a big dog to win that one. I'll take the $225 or so I netted from all of this. Try again tomorrow.
Druff youre a s mart feller and so i know you get this Game and Zed
its a big Math Model Game i now realize, and its fantastic so
as population size grows here now some actual thigns are going to be in that some with big Maths
You know that Maths, we all loved growing up yeah that stuff
That's in Zed too big time and underneath of it all and so if one does NOT have a sincere interest in this all youll get crushed in Zed imo sincerely
Other than that have a blast, I though do honestly at times feel too old for this Game
dominated for sure, or maybe it is just im getting old actually and no good now sad
Millennial Game (leans..)
Willie and PLO if you're reading I Tilt unfollowed a handful of people last week.......
Then followed back again. Actually real people and well, pretty women starting showing up on my Twitter feed much more and I couldn't figure out why. And well, it must be Zed Run Stables lots of these women because that lolgarithm remeber Social Media things, and well. I'm now following so many Zed run stables, that has to be why i now realize so. Its annoying the Algorithm in the backround that connects all of these dots, or you but that is just how Social Media works and i know this so to go around Tilt unfollowing people to try and Trick the Algorithm i realized was dumb and now, well i have quite a few ive interacted with on Twitter so futile to even try now, so I stopped anyway. That is why i was going around all freaked out tilt unfollowing people lol, but then i stopped and realize how that was dumb and id still be in the Zed run circles anyway so yeah. I realized and so i went and started unfollowing people and stables but stopped, thats why its not you personally at all honestly.
Also I was getting, at first I did not understand why probably, and for example, don't laugh guys but lots of very very attractive women and i have a small circle and I dont mind that. You then knows who matter most and is closest to you then. And so as silly as it may sound to others I can now, Reverse-engineer in a sense certain patterns, on say Facebook when you Randomly are getting Recommended someone and you do know them say my Therapist, like real one just moved, this person not in a million years would be in my network. Now all of a sudden on Facebook that actual new Therapist of yours say, is being recommended to you on Facebook, well the reason is they lurked your Facebook page and so now Facebook thinks you know each other probably, and should be friends. What it is an actual sign of though, is that person really has been on your Facebook page and so in some people viw or mind, stalking you. Now thats how the Algorithm functions and with recommendations but, idk maybe i read too much into it but i know for sure say, in that case that person would be or have been at some point on youre page. That would be the only reason you're actual Therapist say, and who really is too, keep in mind not making this up, would be now getting recommend to be you're friend, thats why they were stalking you or on youre page then. Thats how the Algorithm is designed to function or behind the curtain things, anyway so i tilt unfollowed things on Facebook Twitter but then i realized i was over reacting, honestly I know.
I think honesty truthfully what it was is, maybe Zed and Zed run itself and how i now do follow many Zed Run people Stables
Fair criticism at least for now:
https://twitter.com/SapphireBushman/...04170129072130
https://twitter.com/SapphireBushman/...19026576146434
This guy is a bit too negative, but I understand his point. The daily tournaments, which are nice (because entry is free, and you can win real $), still are skewed to the stables with the big boy horses. The "A-Shape tournament" he's talking about would be one which would reward finishing 5th/6th/7th most often, but even that would have a problem, as the playoffs (where you earn the money) would still be 1st/2nd/3rd rewards. So yeah, right now any tournament where you make the playoffs, you have a shot (maybe) in the first round, but are fucked after that.
It was a pure miracle that Ptarmigan -- ranked 12/12 in average speed for the semifinals, finished 3rd and made the finals.
The game really has become very dependent upon number crunching and bankroll. I did benefit from getting a bunch of genesis horses from the faildrops they had, which has allowed me to kinda sorta compete, but there's no chance I can beat the crusher horses with anyone in my stable. I've basically survived by analyzing the trends of the game, and figuring out the best spots to race, and for the most part only putting my $ at risk (or even my time at risk) when it seemed +EV.
They have a lot of changes coming for 2022, so we will see where it goes.
Yeah he is a Stable I do know now and, he cares
What I think and say, but hoenstly im aware how i found this Game much from you all and DFS twitters at the same time, but when you start factoring in real money partners like NASCAR/Stella/Atari that tells me, this is big time now. NASCAR alone and i know i grew up going to races my dads a huge fan, and so i get it. NASCAR means breadth of reach and Media, etelvision, Radio, internet all of it. And who knows how exactly that Contract is designed to work with the Media and if at all, but if done properly and i would assume the breadth of reach was why Zed and NASCAR would even see a reason to want to partner imo, and maybe not this year but next or 3 from now idk, but thats a big deal there I know that.
Thats the deal the one, that opened my eye balls. Thinking woooh and NASCAR is a bid deal or partner and especially for this I thought and some Digital Horse Racing idea only in some minds here. This Digital Horse Racing Game maker here from Australia linked up and swiftly, with one of the Biggest American sporting Companies and Events in the world. And that is right here too, on Febuary 20 is the Daytona 500, so ill be looking for Zed run anything and im going too lol, ill be in Daytona or going to try to be there for the 500. I go often to the Daytona 500..
Did the dailies again today.
Flying Stupidity made the B Marathon tournament (less money awarded, easier competition)
Projekt SEP made the A Marathon tournament
Catfish made the A Sprint tournament
Ptarmigan, despite making the Finals yesterday, failed to qualify
Sundea Suprema again failed to qualify
SEP finished 4th in the quarterfinals, unfortunately facing crushers. No money.
Catfish finished 8th in the quarterfinals. No money.
Flying squeaked into 3rd in the quarters, getting a whopping $11 and moving on.
Flying then squeaked into 3rd again in the semis (with no flame, and with no flame horses getting 1st-3rd), and made the finals. Also got another $18 or so.
In a few minutes, the B Marathon finals will take place. Flying is among the field:
https://3d-racing.zed.run/live/mxonWnxY
He has a better shot than Ptarmigan did yesterday, but isn't a favorite. Since it's the B class, he won't get as much for winning, though. He's against 2 Z1 horses, though, so it's gonna be a tough one like yesterday was.